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Title: The "Deep Mystery" of Melted Steel
Source: http://www.wpi.edu
URL Source: http://www.wpi.edu/News/Transformations/2002Spring/steel.html
Published: Oct 9, 2002
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Post Date: 2006-10-09 17:50:22 by Kamala
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The "Deep Mystery" of Melted Steel

There is no indication that any of the fires in the World Trade Center buildings were hot enough to melt the steel framework. Jonathan Barnett, professor of fire protection engineering, has repeatedly reminded the public that steel--which has a melting point of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit--may weaken and bend, but does not melt during an ordinary office fire. Yet metallurgical studies on WTC steel brought back to WPI reveal that a novel phenomenon--called a eutectic reaction--occurred at the surface, causing intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese.

Materials science professors Ronald R. Biederman and Richard D. Sisson Jr. confirmed the presence of eutectic formations by examining steel samples under optical and scanning electron microscopes. A preliminary report was published in JOM, the journal of the Minerals, Metals & Materials Society. A more detailed analysis comprises Appendix C of the FEMA report. The New York Times called these findings "perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation." The significance of the work on a sample from Building 7 and a structural column from one of the twin towers becomes apparent only when one sees these heavy chunks of damaged metal.

A one-inch column has been reduced to half-inch thickness. Its edges--which are curled like a paper scroll--have been thinned to almost razor sharpness. Gaping holes--some larger than a silver dollar--let light shine through a formerly solid steel flange. This Swiss cheese appearance shocked all of the fire-wise professors, who expected to see distortion and bending--but not holes.

A eutectic compound is a mixture of two or more substances that melts at the lowest temperature of any mixture of its components. Blacksmiths took advantage of this property by welding over fires of sulfur-rich charcoal, which lowers the melting point of iron. In the World Trade Center fire, the presence of oxygen, sulfur and heat caused iron oxide and iron sulfide to form at the surface of structural steel members. This liquid slag corroded through intergranular channels into the body of the metal, causing severe erosion and a loss of structural integrity.

"The important questions," says Biederman, "are how much sulfur do you need, and where did it come from? The answer could be as simple--and this is scary- as acid rain."

Have environmental pollutants increased the potential for eutectic reactions? "We may have just the inherent conditions in the atmosphere so that a lot of water on a burning building will form sulfuric acid, hydrogen sulfide or hydroxides, and start the eutectic process as the steel heats up," Biederman says. He notes that the sulfur could also have come from contents of the burning buildings, such as rubber or plastics. Another possible culprit is ocean salts, such as sodium sulfate, which is known to catalyze sulfidation reactions on turbine blades of jet engines. "All of these things have to be explored," he says.

From a building-safety point of view, the critical question is: Did the eutectic mixture form before the buildings collapsed, or later, as the remains smoldered on the ground. "We have no idea," admits Sisson. "To answer that, we would need to recreate those fires in the FPE labs, and burn fresh steel of known composition for the right time period, with the right environment." He hopes to have the opportunity to collaborate on thermodynamically controlled studies, and to observe the effects of adding sulfur, copper and other elements. The most important lesson, Sisson and Biederman stress, is that fail-safe sprinkler systems are essential to prevent steel from reaching even 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, because phase changes at the 1,300-degree mark compromise a structure's load-bearing capacity.

The FEMA report calls for further metallurgic investigations, and Barnett, Biederman and Sisson hope that WPI will obtain NIST funding and access to more samples. They are continuing their microscopic studies on the samples prepared by graduate student Jeremy Bernier and Marco Fontecchio, the 2001–02 Helen E. Stoddard Materials Science and Engineering Fellow.

(Next year's Stoddard Fellow, Erin Sullivan, will take up this work as part of her graduate studies.) Publication of their results may clear up some mysteries that have confounded the scientific community.

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#1. To: Kamala (#0)

I used to try to explain on LP that the melted steel is a smoking gun. that resulted from demolition efforts, not jet fuel or furniture fires. and the fact that it was present 5 weeks after the event also confirms there was some chemical interacting with the steel. Fire could not possibly cause that situation. I used simple knowledge of basic physical properties of steel to determine this.

but as BAC so expertly told me, it means nothing unless it is on tv. we cannot think for ourselves, we must defer to the tv.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-09   17:55:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones, Kamala, InsideJob, robin, Horse, (#1)

Jet fuel or office fires do not cause an eutectic reaction--occurring at the surface, causing intergranular melting with traces of sulphur. The steel was evaporated from the extreme tempertures of the thermate reaction.

That's not true.

When I was training for my FAA airframe and powerplant license I was told for example to never use a carbon pencil or the like to mark a turbine fan blade because the resulting jet flame would turn that pencil mark into torch line. Same thing would happen with soot or other contaminents on the fan blades.

So your assumption fails.

Destro  posted on  2006-10-10   12:04:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Destro (#10)

A one-inch column has been reduced to half-inch thickness. Its edges--which are curled like a paper scroll--have been thinned to almost razor sharpness. Gaping holes--some larger than a silver dollar--let light shine through a formerly solid steel flange. This Swiss cheese appearance shocked all of the fire-wise professors, who expected to see distortion and bending--but not holes.

I personally believe Kamala's analysis better than yours' about the eutectic phenomenon.

but I know for certain that what is described above in this snippet I quoted from the article could not be caused by an ordinary fire from a combination of jet fuel or gasoline or kerosene and office furniture & paper. If you take a steel beam and put it in such a fire the most that will happen to the beam is it will turn a little bit red, it may lose some properties (strength), a drop or two of steel may drip off if the fire is extremely intense and fed by a lot of oxygen blowing on it. but there is no way that what has been described in this snippet above can be caused by such a fire.

This journalist Chris Bollyn who is now so much attacked is the one who quoted the men on the job-site including the owners of two companies hired to take out the debris that there were many pools of molten and still liquid steel in the debris. This is a physical impossibility unless some very special processes were used. Those special process include only two types. 1-a blast furnace. we know that didn't happen because a blast furnace is completely enclosed and has air and fuel shot into it at high intensity, that can't happen in a building that is not enclosed. 2-chemicals that caused the steel to melt. It had to be chemicals. The eutectic phenomenon goes with that. The idea that a tiny bit of acid from the moisture in the air coated the steel and caused it all to melt is ridiculous.

We're seeing great propaganda efforts to deceive people on these issues.

I've been saying for years that the melted steel in the building that Chris Bollyn publicized is an absolute smoking gun.

Look at the efforts put forth to discredit this theory for the sake of history.

experts are hired to say incredibly stupid things (the acid rain theory) and others.

all stops are pulled to show that Bollyn is a bad player. As RickyJ indicated on other thread - AFP is now under suspicion.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-10   12:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Red Jones (#13)

It takes thousands of degrees to form pools of iron. This was a by product of thermate.Not only were pools of molten iron found in all 3 basements, structual steel was evaporated completely. For this to happen you need well over 4000 degrees. Like you have stated Red, jet fuel and some office furniture isn't capable of doing this.

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-10   13:25:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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