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Title: The "Deep Mystery" of Melted Steel
Source: http://www.wpi.edu
URL Source: http://www.wpi.edu/News/Transformations/2002Spring/steel.html
Published: Oct 9, 2002
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Post Date: 2006-10-09 17:50:22 by Kamala
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The "Deep Mystery" of Melted Steel

There is no indication that any of the fires in the World Trade Center buildings were hot enough to melt the steel framework. Jonathan Barnett, professor of fire protection engineering, has repeatedly reminded the public that steel--which has a melting point of 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit--may weaken and bend, but does not melt during an ordinary office fire. Yet metallurgical studies on WTC steel brought back to WPI reveal that a novel phenomenon--called a eutectic reaction--occurred at the surface, causing intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese.

Materials science professors Ronald R. Biederman and Richard D. Sisson Jr. confirmed the presence of eutectic formations by examining steel samples under optical and scanning electron microscopes. A preliminary report was published in JOM, the journal of the Minerals, Metals & Materials Society. A more detailed analysis comprises Appendix C of the FEMA report. The New York Times called these findings "perhaps the deepest mystery uncovered in the investigation." The significance of the work on a sample from Building 7 and a structural column from one of the twin towers becomes apparent only when one sees these heavy chunks of damaged metal.

A one-inch column has been reduced to half-inch thickness. Its edges--which are curled like a paper scroll--have been thinned to almost razor sharpness. Gaping holes--some larger than a silver dollar--let light shine through a formerly solid steel flange. This Swiss cheese appearance shocked all of the fire-wise professors, who expected to see distortion and bending--but not holes.

A eutectic compound is a mixture of two or more substances that melts at the lowest temperature of any mixture of its components. Blacksmiths took advantage of this property by welding over fires of sulfur-rich charcoal, which lowers the melting point of iron. In the World Trade Center fire, the presence of oxygen, sulfur and heat caused iron oxide and iron sulfide to form at the surface of structural steel members. This liquid slag corroded through intergranular channels into the body of the metal, causing severe erosion and a loss of structural integrity.

"The important questions," says Biederman, "are how much sulfur do you need, and where did it come from? The answer could be as simple--and this is scary- as acid rain."

Have environmental pollutants increased the potential for eutectic reactions? "We may have just the inherent conditions in the atmosphere so that a lot of water on a burning building will form sulfuric acid, hydrogen sulfide or hydroxides, and start the eutectic process as the steel heats up," Biederman says. He notes that the sulfur could also have come from contents of the burning buildings, such as rubber or plastics. Another possible culprit is ocean salts, such as sodium sulfate, which is known to catalyze sulfidation reactions on turbine blades of jet engines. "All of these things have to be explored," he says.

From a building-safety point of view, the critical question is: Did the eutectic mixture form before the buildings collapsed, or later, as the remains smoldered on the ground. "We have no idea," admits Sisson. "To answer that, we would need to recreate those fires in the FPE labs, and burn fresh steel of known composition for the right time period, with the right environment." He hopes to have the opportunity to collaborate on thermodynamically controlled studies, and to observe the effects of adding sulfur, copper and other elements. The most important lesson, Sisson and Biederman stress, is that fail-safe sprinkler systems are essential to prevent steel from reaching even 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, because phase changes at the 1,300-degree mark compromise a structure's load-bearing capacity.

The FEMA report calls for further metallurgic investigations, and Barnett, Biederman and Sisson hope that WPI will obtain NIST funding and access to more samples. They are continuing their microscopic studies on the samples prepared by graduate student Jeremy Bernier and Marco Fontecchio, the 2001–02 Helen E. Stoddard Materials Science and Engineering Fellow.

(Next year's Stoddard Fellow, Erin Sullivan, will take up this work as part of her graduate studies.) Publication of their results may clear up some mysteries that have confounded the scientific community.

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#23. To: Kamala (#0)

Have environmental pollutants increased the potential for eutectic reactions? "We may have just the inherent conditions in the atmosphere so that a lot of water on a burning building will form sulfuric acid, hydrogen sulfide or hydroxides, and start the eutectic process as the steel heats up," Biederman says. He notes that the sulfur could also have come from contents of the burning buildings, such as rubber or plastics. Another possible culprit is ocean salts, such as sodium sulfate, which is known to catalyze sulfidation reactions on turbine blades of jet engines. "All of these things have to be explored," he says.

If this were true though, wouldn't we see this phenomena in most cities when a building with a steel frame burns down? Sounds like these guys think it's an unusual phenomena.

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-10   16:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: mehitable (#23)

Sounds like these guys think it's an unusual phenomena.

their theory about acid rain causing acid to be in the moisture that is in the air and thus cause acid to build up on the steel and cause it to melt as described under an ordinary fire is a very stupid ridiculous theory. We're seeing that. We're seeing very well qualified credentialed people put forth absolutely insane theories to explain what happened. This is propaganda.

unfortunately we have a lot of stupid people in our country who believe anything the tv tells them and cannot think for themselves. they are trained like animals to not think for themselves and instead to defer to the tv always.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-10   16:51:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Red Jones (#25)

Well, it just sounds crazy to me that anyone would even entertain the idea that our air so so acidic that if it comes into contact with burning steel it turns into some kind of sulfurous compound that thins out steel and eats large holes in it - in a matter of hours/days. If this were a normal phenomena, we would see this in other fires, but of course we don't, because IT'S CRAZY.

This is the kind of thing that people reach for when they seem desperate for some kind of explanation short of demonic intervention.

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-10   17:51:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: mehitable (#30)

sounds crazy

it sounds crazy & it IS crazy too.

but we're seeing these types of things where absolutely crazy insane theories are put forth by people with expert credentials even and then treated seriously all to support the government's conspiracy theories on sept 11 events.

we've seen it advanced that when the plane went into the pentagon that the wings just magically folded up and went in a small 20 foot wide hole rather than have an impact on the building even though they were travelling at OVER 300 MPH. and that idea was advanced by mainstream media.

The Discovery channel had an expert on who said that the pools of molten steel in the basement levels could've been caused by jet fuel trickling down through 80 floors of wreckage and then magically reaching very hot temperatures to melt the steel. That is ridiculous. It was burning jet fuel, it all burnt off in a few minutes. it can only trickle downward in liquid form, meaning it wasn't burning while it trickled, when it trickles it spreads out, it diffuses, then it was to magically come together and focus itself on some steel at the bottom to produce a ridiculously hot fire, absolute garbage. and yet they advance that on Discovery channel.

we're seeing the phenomenon of very smart well educated people some with credentials say and apparently believe even very stupid stupid things. all because they defer their ability to think to the man on the tv who tells them what thoughts are acceptable and what are not. Thus they lose their ability to think by surrendering it. it can be called a brain-washing or mind-control technique. It can also be called sorcery, that is the word used in the bible to describe it. Deception is another word used to describe what they do.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-10   18:13:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Red Jones (#32)

The Discovery channel had an expert on who said that the pools of molten steel in the basement levels could've been caused by jet fuel trickling down through 80 floors of wreckage and then magically reaching very hot temperatures to melt the steel. That is ridiculous. It was burning jet fuel, it all burnt off in a few minutes. it can only trickle downward in liquid form, meaning it wasn't burning while it trickled, when it trickles it spreads out, it diffuses, then it was to magically come together and focus itself on some steel at the bottom to produce a ridiculously hot fire, absolute garbage. and yet they advance that on Discovery channel.

Well of course, logic dictates that the jet fuel would have cooled down even a wee bit by the time it reached the basement, and would hardly have caused melting pools of steel. That is insane. However, it should be easy enough to do either a computer simulation, or get some actual jet fuel and steel and go to town.

I think there are people who are desperately willing to believe ANYTHING other than that there are evil traitors in our government who are willing to kill American citizens for money and power. I don't understand why that is so hard to believe, but I never see anyone argue that point with me - they just deny deny deny. That's not good enough.

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