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Title: Tucker Carlson to Evangelicals: Duped
Source: Crooks & Liars
URL Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/
Published: Oct 10, 2006
Author: John Amato
Post Date: 2006-10-10 19:43:24 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 1155
Comments: 69

Tucker.jpg Tucker Carlson gets honest about what he says the Republican elites feel about the Extreme Christian Right.

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CARLSON: It goes deeper than that though. The deep truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals who put their party in power. Everybody in…

MATTHEWS: How do you know that? How do you know that?

CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they're beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don't share their values.

MATTHEWS: So this gay marriage issue and other issues related to the gay lifestyle are simply tools to get elected?

CARLSON: That's exactly right. It's pandering to the base in the most cynical way, and the base is beginning to figure it out

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#1. To: Zipporah, christine, 4um gals (#0)

Does Tucker look a lot more macho without the bow tie, ladies?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-10   19:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: who knows what evil (#1)

Macho?? Uh.. no actually the opposite :P

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-10   19:52:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#2)

That's one for the "Not Hot" column, Tucker...sorry.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-10   19:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: who knows what evil (#3)

LOL! Youre right :P

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-10   19:59:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: who knows what evil (#1)

Say what you will about the man, but he describes himself as a libertarian, and says he takes his sons hunting. He is okay in my book.

echo5sierra  posted on  2006-10-10   20:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#0)

Are they duped? If I were a rapture nutting evangelical heretic I would be pretty happy with Leader Bush. He has layed the groundwork for enacting their agenda on a nationwide scale- which is basically big government "Christian" socialism and has launched murderous wars on behalf of Israel and killed a lot of moslems bringing their day of rapture closer.

The thing you have to realize about rapture nutters is that they are not for small government, not for the constitution. They want an all powerful central government that enforces their morality on the nation. They worship military power. Their is nothing about FDR's Mega State that they want to see eliminated. All they want is to see the power of the Federal government under the guidance of THEIR kind with their brand of morality forced on everyone else. They want a religious state- a theocracy. They have little if any use for capitalism or free markets. What they want is basically a fascist state that espouses their views and enshrines their morality in law. They don't believe in states rights. They don't believe in local government. They want a President that is for all intent and purpose a dictator- a king. And they of course adore the military and wish to see it as their religiouis army.

Their is nothing "conservative" about these people. They have a vision for this country and it is totalitarian. They want a police state. They crave it.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-10   20:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

The Bible explains that people will be taken to Heaven without dying in the end days. How is believing what the Bible says being a heretic? President Bush is doing all he can to stop the Islamic terror and if you buy into the evil of killing people to keep President Bush from rebuilding a country torn apart by decades of having an evil leader, you are giving aid and comfort to out ememies.

We have to keep the Democrats from stealing our country from us, and keep the Iraq people safe from dictators like Saddam.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SherrieG (#7)

Well Sherry if you look at the history ...you will learn that this theology is fairly new and not orthodox Christian...

Welcome to 4

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-10   20:44:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#0)

Our President is continuing the fight to change our judiciary for the better and to end the toxic culture causing so many problems over so many year. My prayers to him and all the brave people trying to build a better middle east.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: SherrieG (#9)

Oh brother.. uh you sound like a bot and i dont mean a Bush bot..

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-10   20:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SherrieG, Zipporah, christine, lodwick, robin (#7)

Clean Up on aisle 6!!

Lady X  posted on  2006-10-10   20:48:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

Excellent post, a shame you make too much sense for most idiots to comprehend.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   20:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Zipporah (#8) (Edited)

Thank you for the welcome. I will read what people post, and I am new to this but I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work. Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate and Satan inspired turmoil. I pray that things get better there, but as it is going according to prohecy, that does not look likely.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SherrieG (#7)

You are my enemy.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-10   20:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: SherrieG (#7)

The Bible explains that people will be taken to Heaven without dying in the end days. How is believing what the Bible says being a heretic?

My tea leaves say you owe me a hundred million dollars. Quit oppressing me and pay up.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   20:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Burkeman1 (#14)

You do not know me, I don't know you. May God forgive you for such a horrible statement.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: SherrieG (#13)

LOL!! Gosh .. I'd listen to my pastor if I were you... of course he speaks for God..er that is the prince and I dont mean the Prince of Peace..

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-10   20:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Burkeman1 (#14)

I'm suspicious, SherrieG seems too perfect a moron. I think it's one of our resident pranksters.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   20:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#15)

I don't understand what tea leaves and fortune teller has to do with oppressing you.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: SherrieG (#7)

President Bush is doing all he can to stop the Islamic terror and if you buy into the evil of killing people to keep President Bush from rebuilding a country torn apart by decades of having an evil leader, you are giving aid and comfort to out ememies.

Sherry, please take your Red Pill, and wake up.

Otherwise, there's a place called http:// www.freerepublic.com that has thousands of people who believe as do you...checking my link, I see that they are having a "snooker-thon" on-going, where you can give them all the money that you have, to spread the "Bush is Jesus" word to the dwindling masses there. Just like Jesus did with some bass and biscuits, back in the day.

Evening cheers.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-10   20:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SherrieG (#13)

I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work.

Have any IRS agents been sniffing around?

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   20:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: SherrieG (#19)

I don't understand what tea leaves and fortune teller has to do with oppressing you.

India Yanks Album Over Christ Protest

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   20:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: SherrieG (#7)

The Bible explains that people will be taken to Heaven without dying in the end days.

Where is the rapture set out in the Bible? From what I've seen, some 19th snake oil salesman made it up. It seems to be one tortured interpretation among many. IMO, it is one of the more radical departures from the literal word of the Bible.

Minerva  posted on  2006-10-10   20:57:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lodwick (#20)

Yes, I am signed up there too. Someone told me about it and I got a list of forums to try, sorry to upset you. I promise I will just read more in these places before posting a bunch.

I chat in Yahoo and irc, I guess this is different and I will read more. Sorry you find me upsetting. It is my fault for just jumping in like this.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SherrieG (#19)

If you are truly seeking the truth, and a forum seeking to know the truth - welcome.

Read the posts, comments, and articles here with discernment...there is some crap here, but very, very little, and those that post it, soon enough find another forum more receptive to their lies.

If you belong to a 501(c)(3) church, then your pastor is suspect: if you don't know the implications of such a church, please do your research, and let us know what you learn, and the implications thereof.

Peace.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-10   21:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SherrieG (#7) (Edited)

The belief in the Rapture is less than 200 years old and was created by Darby and Scofield.

Scofield was a con man who served time.

By the way, stay away from FreeRepubic. Most of them are mental cases.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-10   21:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: YertleTurtle (#26)

Scofield was a con man who served time.

Is this where I say.. AMEN!!!

You are SO right .. idiot evangelicals dont have a clue about this..

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-10   21:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SherrieG (#13)

nd how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work.

Ya got snakes in ya head. And they are telling you what to think.

tom007  posted on  2006-10-10   21:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SherrieG (#13)

Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate

It's well deserved, I might add.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-10   21:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: YertleTurtle (#26)

Run, Herbert, run!

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   21:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: SherrieG (#24)

Sorry you find me upsetting. It is my fault for just jumping in like this.

What's upsetting to me, is that there are so many people who have not yet awakened to what is really going on in our country, and in our world.

Could I suggest that if you can listen to internet radio, try http://www.rbnlive.com and http://www.gcnlive.com for some alternative views on the events of the day, and some very good personal heath information that the FDA does not want you to know?

Lod  posted on  2006-10-10   21:05:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: SherrieG, Burkeman1 (#7) (Edited)

The Bible explains that people will be taken to Heaven without dying in the end days. How is believing what the Bible says being a heretic?

Believing that is not in itself heresy. But, supporting the doing of evil or doing evil yourself because you believe that you're going to be escape-hatched out of the world your evil-doing has helped to make a bloody apocalyptic mess IS heresy.

Alot of American "Christians" are going to be shocked when God leaves them behind to reap in full the evils they have sown.

President Bush is doing all he can to stop the Islamic terror...

Excuse me? Bush is the world's greatest terrorist. Under the Decider's rule...

...the false flag terror op called 9-11 was perpetrated by our Spook Empire

...two nations have been invaded, plundered and massacred on false pretenses

...hundreds of thousands of innocents have been murdered or are dying from exposure to our exploded toxic depleted uranium ammo

...the Geneva Conventions have been trashed and the systematic torture of innocents promoted

...our Bill of Rights has been trashed, American's privacy systematically violated without probable cause or judicial review, and many imprisoned, denied habeus corpus and held without charges or hope of a trial (all in flagrant violation of our Constitution, of course)

If you support any of this, then you, my dear "Christian," have crossed over to the darkside. And, unless you repent, the rapture when it comes will very likely leave you behind.

...and if you buy into the evil of killing people to keep President Bush from rebuilding a country torn apart by decades of having an evil leader, you are giving aid and comfort to out ememies.

America's enemy #1 is the Bush crime family. Did you know that George W. Bush's grandpoppy financed the rise of Hitler and personally profited from the Holocaust? W's now following in his footsteps and attempting to give birth to a 4th Reich. Will you be like those German frauleins in the Thirties who swooned with hormonally-charged excitement before a mass-murdering monster? Or will you wake up before we Americans experience in full the same sort of fascist hell that then consumed "Christian" Germany?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-10-10   21:06:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Minerva (#23)

Silly republicans aren't being raptured, they're dying of AIDS.

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-10   21:10:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Dakmar (#30)

Run, Herbert, run!

Wow, that'scary.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-10   21:11:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SherrieG (#16)

We Hold These Truths

Judaized Christianity Does Not Confuse God Charles E. Carlson Oct 02, 2004

A huge, embarrassing secret is out of the bottle: it is a political reality that a poorly-described mass of professing Christians have been the swing vote in each of the last seven presidential elections. This group is made up of people from many denominations and non-denominational community groups and churches, most of whom call themselves evangelical, Judeo-Christian, and a few answer to Christian Zionist. We prefer the clearly defined term from Bible history ‘Judaized Christianity95; to describe it. Several seasoned political analysts now agree that this religious super-sect will again decide the election in November, and with it the fate of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of people. Your writer is a qualified alumnus from this school.

Because he has announced his intent to attack other Arab countries, the reelection of George W. Bush will be viewed as a mandate for his war policy. Judaized Christians are only now being clearly recognized as Bush’s principal support base. Therefore it is time for us to take a closer look at why many “evangelicals95; have no problem with preemptive wars.

We are also appealing for self-appraisal by all who call themselves by Christ’s name. It is not generally understood that there is zero support for Judaized Christian’s war positions in scripture. Celebrity leaders and pastors invariably claim they follow the exact word of God, never varying from scripture. In fact, interviews with and letters from dozens of these have revealed that they can offer no coherent New Testament support whatsoever for the practice of ?just retribution,? the killing of one man’s children for what someone else is thought to have done to a third party.

War and racial repression are, in fact, profoundly unchristian-like, but this is not discussed in Judaized Christians? churches. The basis for their views toward Israel comes from the Old Testament, never from the New Covenant; no leader of laymen we have met has ever been able to justify bombing of civilians without resorting to manmade alterations, additions or footnotes tacked on to the Bible by men with an agenda.

It is also not generally understood by evangelicals that what fires them to think and vote as a bloc is that, like robots, they have been conditioned to accept the state of Israel as a world power by an aggressive movement that was launched almost a hundred years ago--World Zionism? and that this conditioning has diverted them from their true path into one that serves Israel, not Jesus.

It is time for followers of Christ regardless of church affiliation to confront the entire politicized, Judaized Christian movement, whose acts find no support in the New Testament of Jesus Christ, the Prince on Peace; its followers are deceived or they would not follow it.

--snip--

christine  posted on  2006-10-10   21:13:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#35)

Everyone be nice to SherriG. She may have potential, and I'm sure she's overwhelmed with all this stuff. I mean, Bush being an anti-Christ and all...

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-10   21:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Dakmar (#30)

Darn, I miss all the fun. That one sounds like a bushbot software program.

Read the article, Sherrie. In it, a GOP insider tells you that he and his fellow Repuke elite are laughing at you rubes, throwing you red meat to keep you voting for their totalitarian agenda.

Remember, Hitler did the same thing. He got the religious types all wound up about Jews and homos and darkies, and once he had killed most of them off, he started throwing the religious into camps. Your pastor is in the business of separating you from your money, and what he's telling you is meant to do just that. Who needs money if the end times are right around the corner?

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-10   21:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: SherrieG (#13)

Thank you for the welcome. I will read what people post, and I am new to this but I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work. Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate and Satan inspired turmoil. I pray that things get better there, but as it is going according to prohecy, that does not look likely.

Have you tried LibertyFlame? AKA Stone (the guy who runs it) talks to God and the Devil all the time. They both broadcast thoughts into his head all day long so the guy is really up on what's happening on the other side.

Minerva  posted on  2006-10-10   21:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: YertleTurtle (#36)

Thank you for the welcome. I will read what people post, and I am new to this but I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work. Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate and Satan inspired turmoil. I pray that things get better there, but as it is going according to prohecy, that does not look likely.

I could, of course, be mistaken, but I'm leaning toward the "prank" theory here ... that post is just too perfect. If I were to set out to write the ultimate trolling thread for this site, I don't think I could improve on it.

Well, on second thought, maybe I could ... she (or he) should have added something favorable about aspartame.

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Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. -- H. L. Mencken

Enderby  posted on  2006-10-10   21:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Mekons4 (#37)

In it, a GOP insider tells you that he and his fellow Repuke elite are laughing at you rubes,

To the elites (I use that term neutrally) the only thing that counts are the East and West Coasts. Everything else is Flyover Land, held in contempt by them.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-10   21:20:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Enderby (#39)

I could, of course, be mistaken, but I'm leaning toward the "prank" theory here ... that post is just too perfect. If I were to set out to write the ultimate trolling thread for this site, I don't think I could improve on it.

Well, on second thought, maybe I could ... she (or he) should have added something favorable about aspartame.

uh huh...or DU!

christine  posted on  2006-10-10   21:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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