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Title: Tucker Carlson to Evangelicals: Duped
Source: Crooks & Liars
URL Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/
Published: Oct 10, 2006
Author: John Amato
Post Date: 2006-10-10 19:43:24 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 1181
Comments: 69

Tucker.jpg Tucker Carlson gets honest about what he says the Republican elites feel about the Extreme Christian Right.

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CARLSON: It goes deeper than that though. The deep truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals who put their party in power. Everybody in…

MATTHEWS: How do you know that? How do you know that?

CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they're beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don't share their values.

MATTHEWS: So this gay marriage issue and other issues related to the gay lifestyle are simply tools to get elected?

CARLSON: That's exactly right. It's pandering to the base in the most cynical way, and the base is beginning to figure it out

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#6. To: Zipporah (#0)

Are they duped? If I were a rapture nutting evangelical heretic I would be pretty happy with Leader Bush. He has layed the groundwork for enacting their agenda on a nationwide scale- which is basically big government "Christian" socialism and has launched murderous wars on behalf of Israel and killed a lot of moslems bringing their day of rapture closer.

The thing you have to realize about rapture nutters is that they are not for small government, not for the constitution. They want an all powerful central government that enforces their morality on the nation. They worship military power. Their is nothing about FDR's Mega State that they want to see eliminated. All they want is to see the power of the Federal government under the guidance of THEIR kind with their brand of morality forced on everyone else. They want a religious state- a theocracy. They have little if any use for capitalism or free markets. What they want is basically a fascist state that espouses their views and enshrines their morality in law. They don't believe in states rights. They don't believe in local government. They want a President that is for all intent and purpose a dictator- a king. And they of course adore the military and wish to see it as their religiouis army.

Their is nothing "conservative" about these people. They have a vision for this country and it is totalitarian. They want a police state. They crave it.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-10   20:15:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

The Bible explains that people will be taken to Heaven without dying in the end days. How is believing what the Bible says being a heretic? President Bush is doing all he can to stop the Islamic terror and if you buy into the evil of killing people to keep President Bush from rebuilding a country torn apart by decades of having an evil leader, you are giving aid and comfort to out ememies.

We have to keep the Democrats from stealing our country from us, and keep the Iraq people safe from dictators like Saddam.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:42:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SherrieG (#7)

You are my enemy.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-10   20:49:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Burkeman1 (#14)

You do not know me, I don't know you. May God forgive you for such a horrible statement.

SherrieG  posted on  2006-10-10   20:50:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SherrieG (#16)

We Hold These Truths

Judaized Christianity Does Not Confuse God Charles E. Carlson Oct 02, 2004

A huge, embarrassing secret is out of the bottle: it is a political reality that a poorly-described mass of professing Christians have been the swing vote in each of the last seven presidential elections. This group is made up of people from many denominations and non-denominational community groups and churches, most of whom call themselves evangelical, Judeo-Christian, and a few answer to Christian Zionist. We prefer the clearly defined term from Bible history ‘Judaized Christianity95; to describe it. Several seasoned political analysts now agree that this religious super-sect will again decide the election in November, and with it the fate of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of people. Your writer is a qualified alumnus from this school.

Because he has announced his intent to attack other Arab countries, the reelection of George W. Bush will be viewed as a mandate for his war policy. Judaized Christians are only now being clearly recognized as Bush’s principal support base. Therefore it is time for us to take a closer look at why many “evangelicals95; have no problem with preemptive wars.

We are also appealing for self-appraisal by all who call themselves by Christ’s name. It is not generally understood that there is zero support for Judaized Christian’s war positions in scripture. Celebrity leaders and pastors invariably claim they follow the exact word of God, never varying from scripture. In fact, interviews with and letters from dozens of these have revealed that they can offer no coherent New Testament support whatsoever for the practice of ?just retribution,? the killing of one man’s children for what someone else is thought to have done to a third party.

War and racial repression are, in fact, profoundly unchristian-like, but this is not discussed in Judaized Christians? churches. The basis for their views toward Israel comes from the Old Testament, never from the New Covenant; no leader of laymen we have met has ever been able to justify bombing of civilians without resorting to manmade alterations, additions or footnotes tacked on to the Bible by men with an agenda.

It is also not generally understood by evangelicals that what fires them to think and vote as a bloc is that, like robots, they have been conditioned to accept the state of Israel as a world power by an aggressive movement that was launched almost a hundred years ago--World Zionism? and that this conditioning has diverted them from their true path into one that serves Israel, not Jesus.

It is time for followers of Christ regardless of church affiliation to confront the entire politicized, Judaized Christian movement, whose acts find no support in the New Testament of Jesus Christ, the Prince on Peace; its followers are deceived or they would not follow it.

--snip--

christine  posted on  2006-10-10   21:13:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#35)

Everyone be nice to SherriG. She may have potential, and I'm sure she's overwhelmed with all this stuff. I mean, Bush being an anti-Christ and all...

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-10   21:15:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: YertleTurtle (#36)

Thank you for the welcome. I will read what people post, and I am new to this but I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work. Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate and Satan inspired turmoil. I pray that things get better there, but as it is going according to prohecy, that does not look likely.

I could, of course, be mistaken, but I'm leaning toward the "prank" theory here ... that post is just too perfect. If I were to set out to write the ultimate trolling thread for this site, I don't think I could improve on it.

Well, on second thought, maybe I could ... she (or he) should have added something favorable about aspartame.

Enderby  posted on  2006-10-10   21:19:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Enderby (#39)

I could, of course, be mistaken, but I'm leaning toward the "prank" theory here ... that post is just too perfect. If I were to set out to write the ultimate trolling thread for this site, I don't think I could improve on it.

Well, on second thought, maybe I could ... she (or he) should have added something favorable about aspartame.

uh huh...or DU!

christine  posted on  2006-10-10   21:28:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: christine (#41) (Edited)

http://www.duhspot.net/poli tics/larasher.html

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Great minds have purposes, others have wishes. [SherrieG] - 01:03am May 27, 2000 EST (#67 of 694)

Lizzard has been giving our resident psycho "how to f**k up the board" lessons.

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Great minds have purposes, others have wishes. [SherrieG] - 12:22am May 28, 2000 EST (#106 of 694)

In point of fact, Sly Stallone doesn't even come up to Antonio Banderas' armpit. He's shorter than Michael J. Fox.

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Great minds have purposes, others have wishes. [SherrieG] - 04:40am May 28, 2000 EST (#119 of 694)

Duh -- turn your little communicator on, hon, I have to talk to you right now.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-10   21:59:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Ferret Mike (#44)

Lizzard has been giving our resident psycho "how to f**k up the board" lessons.

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Hmm, she seems to have a rather different personality here.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-10   22:02:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Mekons4 (#45) (Edited)

Yeah, this is not SherrieG. I've sent her an E mail at the last E mail address I have for her to let her know.

Sherrie has allot of enemies, all conservative, and she loaths Bush with a passion. She also had the biggest Post Time.Com/politics forum.

Honestly I don't even know if she is posting anywhere these days.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-10   22:09:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#50. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

ok..i just read your post to Mekons.

christine  posted on  2006-10-10 22:11:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

Sherrie has allot of enemies, all conservative, and she loaths Bush with a passion. She also had the biggest Post Time.Com/politics forum.

Looks like someone is on your case, Ferret. And letting you know it.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-10 23:02:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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