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Title: Tucker Carlson to Evangelicals: Duped
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Crooks & Liars
URL Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/
Published: Oct 10, 2006
Author: John Amato
Post Date: 2006-10-10 19:43:24 by Zipporah
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Views: 1248
Comments: 69
CARLSON: It goes deeper than that though. The deep truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals who put their party in power. Everybody in… MATTHEWS: How do you know that? How do you know that? CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they're beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don't share their values. MATTHEWS: So this gay marriage issue and other issues related to the gay lifestyle are simply tools to get elected? CARLSON: That's exactly right. It's pandering to the base in the most cynical way, and the base is beginning to figure it out 
Tucker Carlson gets honest about what he says the Republican elites feel about the Extreme Christian Right.
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#30. To: YertleTurtle (#26)
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs
What's upsetting to me, is that there are so many people who have not yet awakened to what is really going on in our country, and in our world. Could I suggest that if you can listen to internet radio, try http://www.rbnlive.com and http://www.gcnlive.com for some alternative views on the events of the day, and some very good personal heath information that the FDA does not want you to know?
Believing that is not in itself heresy. But, supporting the doing of evil or doing evil yourself because you believe that you're going to be escape-hatched out of the world your evil-doing has helped to make a bloody apocalyptic mess IS heresy. Alot of American "Christians" are going to be shocked when God leaves them behind to reap in full the evils they have sown. President Bush is doing all he can to stop the Islamic terror... Excuse me? Bush is the world's greatest terrorist. Under the Decider's rule... ...the false flag terror op called 9-11 was perpetrated by our Spook Empire ...two nations have been invaded, plundered and massacred on false pretenses ...hundreds of thousands of innocents have been murdered or are dying from exposure to our exploded toxic depleted uranium ammo ...the Geneva Conventions have been trashed and the systematic torture of innocents promoted ...our Bill of Rights has been trashed, American's privacy systematically violated without probable cause or judicial review, and many imprisoned, denied habeus corpus and held without charges or hope of a trial (all in flagrant violation of our Constitution, of course) If you support any of this, then you, my dear "Christian," have crossed over to the darkside. And, unless you repent, the rapture when it comes will very likely leave you behind. ...and if you buy into the evil of killing people to keep President Bush from rebuilding a country torn apart by decades of having an evil leader, you are giving aid and comfort to out ememies. America's enemy #1 is the Bush crime family. Did you know that George W. Bush's grandpoppy financed the rise of Hitler and personally profited from the Holocaust? W's now following in his footsteps and attempting to give birth to a 4th Reich. Will you be like those German frauleins in the Thirties who swooned with hormonally-charged excitement before a mass-murdering monster? Or will you wake up before we Americans experience in full the same sort of fascist hell that then consumed "Christian" Germany?
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Silly republicans aren't being raptured, they're dying of AIDS.
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military. - William S. Burroughs
Wow, that'scary.
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
We Hold These Truths Judaized Christianity Does Not Confuse God Charles E. Carlson Oct 02, 2004 A huge, embarrassing secret is out of the bottle: it is a political reality that a poorly-described mass of professing Christians have been the swing vote in each of the last seven presidential elections. This group is made up of people from many denominations and non-denominational community groups and churches, most of whom call themselves evangelical, Judeo-Christian, and a few answer to Christian Zionist. We prefer the clearly defined term from Bible history ‘Judaized Christianity95; to describe it. Several seasoned political analysts now agree that this religious super-sect will again decide the election in November, and with it the fate of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of people. Your writer is a qualified alumnus from this school. Because he has announced his intent to attack other Arab countries, the reelection of George W. Bush will be viewed as a mandate for his war policy. Judaized Christians are only now being clearly recognized as Bush’s principal support base. Therefore it is time for us to take a closer look at why many “evangelicals95; have no problem with preemptive wars. We are also appealing for self-appraisal by all who call themselves by Christ’s name. It is not generally understood that there is zero support for Judaized Christian’s war positions in scripture. Celebrity leaders and pastors invariably claim they follow the exact word of God, never varying from scripture. In fact, interviews with and letters from dozens of these have revealed that they can offer no coherent New Testament support whatsoever for the practice of ?just retribution,? the killing of one man’s children for what someone else is thought to have done to a third party. War and racial repression are, in fact, profoundly unchristian-like, but this is not discussed in Judaized Christians? churches. The basis for their views toward Israel comes from the Old Testament, never from the New Covenant; no leader of laymen we have met has ever been able to justify bombing of civilians without resorting to manmade alterations, additions or footnotes tacked on to the Bible by men with an agenda. It is also not generally understood by evangelicals that what fires them to think and vote as a bloc is that, like robots, they have been conditioned to accept the state of Israel as a world power by an aggressive movement that was launched almost a hundred years ago--World Zionism? and that this conditioning has diverted them from their true path into one that serves Israel, not Jesus. It is time for followers of Christ regardless of church affiliation to confront the entire politicized, Judaized Christian movement, whose acts find no support in the New Testament of Jesus Christ, the Prince on Peace; its followers are deceived or they would not follow it. --snip--
Everyone be nice to SherriG. She may have potential, and I'm sure she's overwhelmed with all this stuff. I mean, Bush being an anti-Christ and all...
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
Darn, I miss all the fun. That one sounds like a bushbot software program. Read the article, Sherrie. In it, a GOP insider tells you that he and his fellow Repuke elite are laughing at you rubes, throwing you red meat to keep you voting for their totalitarian agenda. Remember, Hitler did the same thing. He got the religious types all wound up about Jews and homos and darkies, and once he had killed most of them off, he started throwing the religious into camps. Your pastor is in the business of separating you from your money, and what he's telling you is meant to do just that. Who needs money if the end times are right around the corner?
Have you tried LibertyFlame? AKA Stone (the guy who runs it) talks to God and the Devil all the time. They both broadcast thoughts into his head all day long so the guy is really up on what's happening on the other side.
I could, of course, be mistaken, but I'm leaning toward the "prank" theory here ... that post is just too perfect. If I were to set out to write the ultimate trolling thread for this site, I don't think I could improve on it. Well, on second thought, maybe I could ... she (or he) should have added something favorable about aspartame.
- - - - - - - - - - - To the elites (I use that term neutrally) the only thing that counts are the East and West Coasts. Everything else is Flyover Land, held in contempt by them.
"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.
Well, on second thought, maybe I could ... she (or he) should have added something favorable about aspartame. uh huh...or DU!
Who are you really? Where did you come across this account name?
You know that was my first thought.. its a computer bot.
Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.
http://www.duhspot.net/poli tics/larasher.html -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Great minds have purposes, others have wishes. [SherrieG] - 01:03am May 27, 2000 EST (#67 of 694) Lizzard has been giving our resident psycho "how to f**k up the board" lessons. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Great minds have purposes, others have wishes. [SherrieG] - 12:22am May 28, 2000 EST (#106 of 694) In point of fact, Sly Stallone doesn't even come up to Antonio Banderas' armpit. He's shorter than Michael J. Fox. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Great minds have purposes, others have wishes. [SherrieG] - 04:40am May 28, 2000 EST (#119 of 694) Duh -- turn your little communicator on, hon, I have to talk to you right now.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmm, she seems to have a rather different personality here.
He looks a lot better without the bow tie, ya gotta admit. That is so.........so........so George Willish! *Gag*
Yeah, this is not SherrieG. I've sent her an E mail at the last E mail address I have for her to let her know. Sherrie has allot of enemies, all conservative, and she loaths Bush with a passion. She also had the biggest Post Time.Com/politics forum. Honestly I don't even know if she is posting anywhere these days.
huh? i'm confused. is this SherrieG a real person?
Yup, But the SherrieG I know is not this person.
ok..i just read your post to Mekons.
Can you point out where in the Constitution this nation has the right to impose our ideals and values on a foreign nation--dictator or otherwise? Exactly who died and left us in charge of the world? Where were you when that 'dictator' was our best friend?
You're serious? ROTFLMAO! Really serious?
Preach it Dee! :P
Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.
Instead of being a keyboard pounder just fill of prayers and rah rah rahs, why don't you volunteer your derriere to go over there and play with tinkertoys or lincoln logs or erector sets ON YOUR TIME and ON YOUR DIME. And for gawds sake, don't even think of starting one of those damn photo ofo the day or prayer threads for the liar in chief. If you want that, you really need to try http://freerepublic.com. That place is full of that stuff, and I can't help but think you'd fit in beautifully. Just ask for howlin or one of her friends....
So, Sherrie.........what is your regular screen name here?
You forgot to add Catholics to the list of peoples that Hitler hated and murdered. "Of the 11 million people killed during the Holocaust, six million were Polish citizens. Three million were Polish Jews and another three million were Polish Catholics." http://www.holocaustforg otten.com/Newsletter.htm Also, the first victims to die at Auchwitz were not Polish Jews, but rather Polish Catholics and other Polish Christians...interesting, yes? "Polish Christians and Catholics were actually the first victims of the notorious German death camp. For the first 21 months after it began in 1940, Auschwitz was inhabited almost exclusively by Polish non-Jews. The first ethnic Pole died in June 1940 and the first Jew died in October 1942..." http://www.holocaustforgotte n.com/poland.htm Sorry to interupt you...carry on...
Looks like someone is on your case, Ferret. And letting you know it.
Exactly.
Yes, I knew that. I lumped it in with religious because I didn't want to get into the Catholics are not Christians and the Pope conspired with Hitler to keep Catholics safe argument.
I certainly think it is good to take the bible seriously. The 'rapture' enthusiasts want to focus on a very few verses and blow them out of proportion IMHO. I do not believe that people who take the bible seriously can support Bush. Unless they are horribly deceived. and you know what hte bible says about deception. it says the evil ones will employ great deception very successfully in the end-times. Did you know that the US began to support Saddam Hussein in the mid-1950's when Saddam was 18 years old? It is true. he had committed several murders of a political nature, but he was unsuccessful at bringing his political clique to power in Iraq, he was a wanted man and his time was short as the authorities were going to arrest him and kill him, and the US CIA took him in and sheltered him in Egypt all through his 20's. He never had a job during his 20's. He was supported by the US taxpayers instead. In his early 30's he was brought back to Iraq and in a CIA-supported coup his clique came to power, but Saddam was not made the top leader at that time. Then a few years later in 1978 he was elevated to being the top leader - president. Then the US began to really deal with Saddam. The US gave his regime 40 billion dollars worth of cash and goods during the 1980's. It started with the US paying him billions of dollars worth of grain to start a war with Iran. There were one million people that died in that war. It included the use of chemical weapons by both sides. Saddam got his chemical weapons from the US. No christian can support this. Look at how many people die due to the wars that the US started. It is over 100 people per day every day. These people did not attack us. Our government and those who support our government attacked them instead. The bible instructs us not to worship other gods, and it specifically tells us not to worship Molech. But Bush and his clan are known to go to california each year and participate in human sacrifice ceremonies where Molech is worshiped. And I'm not making this up, the ceremony has actually been filmed and audio recorded. The people behind that ceremony openly admit they do it even. I read about it in the Wall Street Journal in 1979. It is very well documented that what I'm telling you is true. The bible says that god will descend to earth and build his kingdom here on earth at conclusion of the end-times. There is much prophecy in the bible that if you take it seriously leads you to see that Bush and his clan are very evil. They're on the wrong side. If you mean what you said in your post, then you are being deceived in a huge way. Does the bible say that we should tax the poor at a higher rate of their income than the rich must pay of their income? No, it does not. and it says we should be very concerned about the poor and go out of our way to make sure things are OK for them. But Bush and the Republicans just 6 months ago lowered the top tax rate for the richest Americans down to 15%. This is known as the 'investment income' tax rate. This is a new innovation that only serves to lower the tax rate on the richest people. But the poorest people must pay the payroll tax, and that is at 16% currently. The poorest pay higher than the richest. And bush is on record as saying he wants the payroll tax raised to 21%. Christians cannot support this type of a regime. You are deceived about the islamic terror if you really mean what you say. The big terrorist events in our time are frauds. They are not as our media and government has said they were. This has been proven. tv is not reality. reality is not tv. If you believe that it is, then you are practicing idolatry. There is great deception on tv and in the media. Babylon is here. You should read the bible prophecy about babylon in the end-times. That is a dominant theme of the bible, just as the jesus themes are dominant, the end-times babylon themes are also just that dominant. But the rapture verses are relatively obscure and open to interpretation. Why do the 'christians' ignore the babylon prophecies. I suggest it is because as jesus said during the end times there would be a false or 'fallen-away' church. If you believe that today we are in end-times, then you should be looking for babylon, and you should be looking for the fallen-away church. because bible says those things will be here in the end-times.
well Sherrie - after reading the entire thread I see that you seem to be sincere and serious in your views. Don't apologize for posting your honest views. We at this forum are pretty set in our opinions. but we certainly don't mind a sincere person who is not malicious that just doesn't agree with us. We're shocked that you're so pro-bush. I was a loyal republican for many years. I used to convince others to vote republican. But I began to question them in 1989 based on things that George HW Bush was actually doing as president. Over a long period of time I became completely disenchanted with them because of actual events and things that they did. I voted for Bush in 2000 thinking he was lesser of two evils and we needed a change. But in summer of 2001 when I saw he supported the education bureaucracy and all the evil that entails I knew I had been duped. Bush is very evil just as I told you. Across the board, I don't care what issue you select the real Bush record is evil from a christian point of view. I used to go to a church. but the pastor began to worship bush and that was too much for me. We cannot save the world through the actions of man. The democracy and our government are the things of man. Man is being discredited on a mass scale. this is the agenda of the end-times. The rule of man is being shown to be evil and dysfunctional. We need jesus to return and build his kingdom here. We need him to return to defeat the evil ones. We will all grow to know this, or we will deny it and put faith in man. You should take the advice someone gave you above and listen to gcn or rbn on the internet radio. It will be very upsetting to you though. It will be hard to learn things you don't want to know. but don't be deceived. What does scripture say about being deceived in the end-times? It says to avoid this and that it is horrible to be deceived in those times. and if you think the things you've been saying, then I think that you are deceived. praise the lord. he will return. he will not let us be ravaged by the evil that is here in this world forever. he will defeat them. he will build his kingdom here. he will make us lie down in the green pastures. he will build a table for us before our enemies. we must have faith in god, not in the things of man. bush is a foul-mouthed man who supports death. his party passed a law supporting the practice of forcing little children to be drugged up with anti- depressant drugs which harms those children tremendously. he supports the vaccines that cause autism in children. he supports the use of depleted uranium in war and the depleted uranium is a poison that causes birth defects and death on a mass scale. The people being killed in these wars are not being killed in a just manner. the wars are unjust. the terrorism that we witnessed was a fraud. If you want to confirm all of these things by seeking out information sources other than the big money mainstream media, then you can. The love of money is the root of all evil. and the evil ones who do oppose jesus have developed a conspiracy to rule the world. The bible calls this group babylon that succeeds at ruling the earth in the end-times. George Bush works for babylon. he's their puppet.
one of your posts mentioned Israel. Israel is not what we're told in many christian circles. Deception is at play regarding Israel. Israel is the great aggressor in terms of violence towards other nations. The people of bethleham where jesus was born are greatly oppressed by the Israelis. The Israelis are not the people of god that you presume. In fact they are a people that systematically reject god. Do an opinion survey in Israel and ask them if they believe in god. an amazingly high percentage will say they do not believe in god. It is not like that in almost any other country around the world. In most countries most people will say they believe in god, but not in Israel. I remember seeing a 'before' and 'after' photo of Rachel Corrie posted here on 4um. She was a young American woman who in 2003 travelled to Israel to protest against some things the Israelis do against the Palestinians. She stood in front of a bulldozer with a megaphone and told the Israelis not to run over someone's house. and then they ran her over before they ran over the house. I saw the photos of her standing before the bulldozer with a megaphone, and then the photo of her after they ran her over. That was cold-blooded murder. they could've easily picked her up and removed her before running over the house. but they chose to kill her. this incident is just one of many many examples of what the Israelis actually do. no real christian can condone this. the Israelis kill many many times as many non-Israelis as non-Israelis kill of Israel. look at the recent war that Israel started. The oppression of the palestinians is constant, it happens every day, they are extremely oppressed. The Israelis are not proceeding in such a manner as to achieve peace. Their tactics are inconsistent with peace. You should look at what the Israelis actually do, not what the tv says. You must do research to see this. Even today the Israelis kill 3-4 Palestinians each day. In many of these cases the Israelis are behaving as brutal murderers. It is very well documented what I say.
Don't worry, the Republicans are doing their level best !
"bis pueri senes" "old men are twice boys"
THREE outstanding posts, Red...outstanding!
Indeed. Where's Sherrie? Did we scare her away?
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
I really hope not. she sounds honest and sincere. our disagreements with her are so large that she might see us as hostile. but she wasn't really hostile to us. she just has a different view. we'd benefit by her being around. and maybe she might too.
Your pastor is an immoral idiot.
Just excellent.
AKA Stone ... zionazi
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
#31. To: SherrieG (#24)
Sorry you find me upsetting. It is my fault for just jumping in like this.
#32. To: SherrieG, Burkeman1 (#7)
(Edited)
The Bible explains that people will be taken to Heaven without dying in the end days. How is believing what the Bible says being a heretic?
#33. To: Minerva (#23)
#34. To: Dakmar (#30)
Run, Herbert, run!
#35. To: SherrieG (#16)
#36. To: All (#35)
#37. To: Dakmar (#30)
#38. To: SherrieG (#13)
Thank you for the welcome. I will read what people post, and I am new to this but I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work. Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate and Satan inspired turmoil. I pray that things get better there, but as it is going according to prohecy, that does not look likely.
#39. To: YertleTurtle (#36)
Thank you for the welcome. I will read what people post, and I am new to this but I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work. Israel has a hard road in such a sea of hate and Satan inspired turmoil. I pray that things get better there, but as it is going according to prohecy, that does not look likely.
Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. -- H. L. Mencken
#40. To: Mekons4 (#37)
In it, a GOP insider tells you that he and his fellow Repuke elite are laughing at you rubes,
#41. To: Enderby (#39)
I could, of course, be mistaken, but I'm leaning toward the "prank" theory here ... that post is just too perfect. If I were to set out to write the ultimate trolling thread for this site, I don't think I could improve on it.
#42. To: SherrieG (#24)
#43. To: Mekons4 (#37)
That one sounds like a bushbot software program.
#44. To: christine (#41)
(Edited)
#45. To: Ferret Mike (#44)
Lizzard has been giving our resident psycho "how to f**k up the board" lessons.
#46. To: echo5sierra (#5)
#47. To: Mekons4 (#45)
(Edited)
#48. To: Ferret Mike (#44)
#49. To: christine (#48)
#50. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
#51. To: SherrieG (#7)
We have to keep the Democrats from stealing our country from us, and keep the Iraq people safe from dictators like Saddam.
#52. To: SherrieG (#7)
and if you buy into the evil of killing people to keep President Bush from rebuilding a country torn apart by decades of having an evil leader, you are giving aid and comfort to out ememies.
#53. To: rowdee (#51)
Can you point out where in the Constitution this nation has the right to impose our ideals and values on a foreign nation--dictator or otherwise?
#54. To: SherrieG (#9)
My prayers to him and all the brave people trying to build a better middle east.
#55. To: SherrieG (#13)
#56. To: Mekons4 (#37)
He got the religious types all wound up about Jews and homos and darkies,
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
Sherrie has allot of enemies, all conservative, and she loaths Bush with a passion. She also had the biggest Post Time.Com/politics forum.
#58. To: Mekons4 (#57)
#59. To: scrapper2 (#56)
You forgot to add Catholics to the list of peoples that Hitler hated and murdered.
#60. To: SherrieG (#7)
#61. To: SherrieG (#9)
#62. To: SherrieG (#9)
#63. To: SherrieG (#7)
We have to keep the Democrats from stealing our country from us, and keep the Iraq people safe from dictators like Saddam.
#64. To: Red Jones (#62)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#65. To: who knows what evil, Red Jones, SherrieG (#64)
THREE outstanding posts, Red...outstanding!
#66. To: Arator, SherrieG (#65)
Where's Sherrie? Did we scare her away?
#67. To: SherrieG (#13)
I know what my pastor says and he has explained the need for a strong spiritual core in each of us and how President Bush and conservatives are doing Gods work
#68. To: Red Jones (#62)
Outstanding posts, Red. Thanks for spelling it out for "Sherry."
#69. To: Minerva (#38)
Have you tried LibertyFlame? AKA Stone (the guy who runs it) talks to God and the Devil all the time. They both broadcast thoughts into his head all day long so the guy is really up on what's happening on the other side.
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