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Title: Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story
Source: PrisonPlanet.com
URL Source: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/141006poll.htm
Published: Oct 14, 2006
Author: Steve Watson & Alex Jones
Post Date: 2006-10-14 16:49:53 by Peetie Wheatstraw
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Views: 636
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A monumental new scientific opinion poll has emerged which declares that only 16% of people in America now believe the official government explanation of the September 11th 2001 terror attacks.

According to the new New York Times/CBS News poll, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:

"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Telling the truth 16%

Hiding something 53%

Mostly lying 28%

Not sure 3%"

The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job.

A recent CNN poll found that the percentage of Americans who blame the Bush administration for the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington rose from almost a third to almost half over the past four years. This latest poll shows that that figure has again risen exponentially and now stands at well over three quarters of the population.

It took 35 plus years for the majority of Americans to wake up to the fact that the assassination of JFK was a government operation. It has only take five years for MORE Americans to wake up to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job on behalf of the Neoconservative crime syndicate within the US.

Reference to past polls show that in the last five years there has been an explosion in numbers of those who do not buy the official line.

In 2004 a Zogby Poll showed that just over half of New Yorkers believed there was a cover up.

In May of this year another Zogby poll indicated that around half of ALL Americans did not buy the official story.

The latest poll also shows a massive awakening has occurred recently given that previous estimates indicated that around 34% still believed the official story and around 30% were oblivious altogether.


"TerrorStorm sets a new standard in documentary filmmaking. Alex Jones knocks it out of the park yet again." -Dylan Avery, Director, "Loose Change" - Click here to get the DVD or click here to watch online now!

Alex Jones declared that the Truth movement has cause to celebrate this evening as it is now beyond any doubt that the vast majority of Americans know that the official story of 19 Saudis with box cutters is ludicrous.

The diligence of those who have worked to educate the world on 9/11 truth from day one cannot be underestimated. We are now seeing the fruits of this hard and at times extremely trying labor hit home.

We would add thought that although this is a major victory for the truth movement it does not mean that the hard work can stop.

The next step is to use the majority opinion as leverage towards officially changing the record of what happened on 9/11, forcing the mainstream media into addressing the issue, not as a quirky news item, but as a serious re-defining of the state of the nation and the world today.

We have not taken the country back yet and the cabal that has taken control of the government continues to systematically use 9/11 and the war on terror as an excuse to destroy the Constitutional foundations of law and order in America.

As it becomes clearer that more and more Americans KNOW that their government is lying to them on the most fundamental issue of their lifetimes, we must consider what kind of reaction the government will undertake.

Remember that the majority of American voters now believe the Sept. 11 terrorist attack was a more significant historical event than the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

In July 2001 Alex jones issued an emergency warning that there was going to be a massive false flag terrorist attack in New York to be blamed on Osama Bin Laden. At that time there was not enough activism among the population to prevent it going ahead.

In August of 2006 Alex Jones issued a second emergency warning that all the factors pointed towards an imminent attack. The activism that occurred in the wake of this warning and that of others was exponential and may indeed have helped stave off another attack.

Our next warning is this, desperate times call for desperate measures. The criminal elements of the government now know that they have been totally exposed and are reviled by the majority of free thinking Americans. Will their response be to vamp up the crack down on that free thinking itself?

In essence Americans have outright REJECTED giving up their liberty for security in the wake of 9/11. The only security IS liberty itself, and the only way to stay secure is to constantly defend liberty.


Poster Comment:

The poll results are here. The really significant finding is that now fully 28% of those polled think the Bush cabal is "mostly lying" about 9/11, whereas in May 2002 only 8% of those polled did. That's more than one in four Americans if these results are accurate. And whereas 21% of those polled in May 2002 believed the cabal was telling the truth about 9/11 in May 2002, only 16% of those polled now do.

No wonder Limbaugh and O'Reilly have both got marching orders to go on the attack against 9/11 Truth. (2 images)

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Alex Jones fan/911 Truth ping :)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-10-14   16:50:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

AJ bump

Lod  posted on  2006-10-14   16:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#1)

thanks for the headsup! i am listening to Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery right now on http://www.rbnlive.com. they cited those stats. Alex Jones called in awhile ago. these kids are doing a great job. the calls are interesting.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-14   16:58:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

Right after 9/11, when I wanted to see blood - any blood of a Mooslim would do- one thing that sorta bothered me was when Bush weirdly, one day- about a month after 9/11- said that "we" were not to "tolerate any conspiracy theories" about 9/11. I hadn't even considered a conspiracy theory at that point- but alarm bells went off when Bush made that very weird statement.

Then- a couple years of reading the threads back and forth between people like Honway and the usual suspects of pettifoggers and shit mist sprayers- and seeing how utterly empty the arguments of those backing the official story were and I had to dismiss the official story for the crock of crap it is.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-14   16:59:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

Given these numbers, anyone with any sense should be able to look at what is going on in the political arena and say, Hey, why are not the (so-called) opposition to the Republicans talking about this? What the H--- is going on here?!

And anyone who actually looks at the 9/11 videos and does not ask that very question, is a fool.

The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-14   17:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

Now it's time to stop the false-flag induced wars, and let others live in peace.

I believe Richard stated that both Reps and Dems are implicated by having remained closed mouthed about the fake Islamic Attack over the last 5 years while passing police state legislation. I agree.

We need to flush the toilet in D.C.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2006-10-14   17:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

Right after 9/11, when I wanted to see blood - any blood of a Mooslim would do-

Now it's more like "Blood..- any blood of anyone in DC will do." LOL. Funny how the Truth changes us.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-14   17:49:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

My immediate reaction to this article was rather unusual. I thought a couple of con men would take a poll of American voters and identify the 16% who believe Bush and then have an associate call and tell them the RNC and Karl Rove need them to send their checking account number, pin number and all those answers to identifying questions to an address in Lagos Nigeria. Nature abhors a vacuum. If you have an empty space between your ears, you might hurt yourself carrying all that money around. Whoever does perform a walletectomy on you is doing you a favor.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2006-10-14   17:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

one thing that sorta bothered me was when Bush weirdly, one day- about a month after 9/11- said that "we" were not to "tolerate any conspiracy theories" about 9/11. I hadn't even considered a conspiracy theory at that point- but alarm bells went off when Bush made that very weird statement.

The first time I remember a conspiracy theory about 9/11 surfacing was in Thierry-Mason's book in mid-2002, months after Bush's strange statement.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-14   17:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

No wonder Limbaugh and O'Reilly have both got marching orders to go on the attack against 9/11 Truth.

I wonder what that is supposed to accomplish. If they have to get those guys mount a concerted campaign, doesn't that mean that there must be something to what their campaign is against?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-14   17:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine (#3)

they cited those stats. Alex Jones called in awhile ago. these kids are doing a great job. the calls are interesting.

micro-broadcasters bump

Lod  posted on  2006-10-14   17:54:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: aristeides (#9)

one thing that sorta bothered me was when Bush weirdly, one day- about a month after 9/11- said that "we" were not to "tolerate any conspiracy theories" about 9/11.

IIRC, that was right around the time that news of the strangely large number of "puts" on Boeing and American Airlines just before 9/11 came to the publics' attention. Junior's script writers knew that they had to get the "shut the fuck up!" order out to the MSM...and then all talk of those options trades vaporized.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-14   18:00:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Horse (#8)

If you have an empty space between your ears, you might hurt yourself carrying all that money around. Whoever does perform a walletectomy on you is doing you a favor.

A fool and his money were lucky to hook-up in the first place.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-14   18:01:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: orangedog (#12)

What I remember suspecting at the time was that the short selling was done by Al Qaeda or by people closely associated with it. Of course, blaming Al Qaeda is itself a "conspiracy theory," but that isn't what people like me were thinking at the time.

If the media were supposed to draw the lesson from that warning that they shouldn't investigate those put options, doesn't that mean that the warning told them that somebody else, other than Al Qaeda, was involved?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-14   18:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: aristeides (#10)

No wonder Limbaugh and O'Reilly have both got marching orders to go on the attack against 9/11 Truth.

I wonder what that is supposed to accomplish. If they have to get those guys mount a concerted campaign, doesn't that mean that there must be something to what their campaign is against?

Intimidation. I've never heard people like O'Reilly or Ingraham debate the issues of 9/11 substantively with guests like Fetzer or Jones. Instead, they attack the spokespeople as "disgracing" or "insulting" the dead of 9/11, of "hating" America, of "siding with the terrorists," etc. O'Reilly infamously has started to threaten the 9/11 movement with FBI attention, stating Thursday night with Fetzer, "if I were the FBI, I'd follow you around everywhere, to see what you were up to." Last night on his so-called "Talking Points," O'Reilly explicitly stated that there was a "limit" to free speech rights, and that 9/11 Truth advocates had crossed that line.

I don't think the Bush cabal and its media enablers care if we think they're concerned about the 9/11 Truth movement, aristeides, as long as they make the average citizen worried about the consequences of espousing 9/11 Truth. When I discussed my new found belief in 9/11 Truth with a friend of 40 years, his shameful reaction was, "Don't you think we shouldn't be discussing this sort of thing on the phone?" Precisely the type of viscerally fearful reaction to 9/11 Truth which the Bush/Cheney cabal wants to inculcate in the general public.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-10-14   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: aristeides (#14)

If the media were supposed to draw the lesson from that warning that they shouldn't investigate those put options, doesn't that mean that the warning told them that somebody else, other than Al Qaeda, was involved?

Maybe that was the lesson learned by a handful of journalists. But as far as the people signing the paychecks for NBC/MSNBC/CNBC (Re: General Electric-defense contractor), CBS (Re: Westinghouse-defense contractor), ABC and CNN (Re: Disney and Time/Warner, dependent on FCC approval to stay on the air)...they all got the message loud and clear.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-14   18:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

Right after 9/11, when I wanted to see blood - any blood of a Mooslim would do-

I was right there too. Wanted to kill all them Muslims. Bought the rationales for invading Afghanistan and Iraq hook, line and sinker. Fervently believed that Israel was our most important and most loyal ally in the world. Eagerly anticipated military action against the other "Asses of Evil": North Korea and Iran.

Then sometime in June 2005, I read an article by Morgan Reynolds on Lew Rockwell entitled IIRC "How did the WTC Towers really collapse?." He made a case for skepticism that I couldn't just dismiss out of hand. (Interestingly, Rockwell's site no longer runs 9/11 Truth articles---rather it's run one or two "debunking" articles instead!)

I started looking for more information, googling, seeking out skeptic sites, and happened on Hoffman's "911 Research" site, which is still my favorite, no matter what others say about him. I spent hours and then days reading the copious info on that site. I came away realizing that something was terribly wrong, horrifically false, about the official 9/11 story. I've been far more afraid of Bush and his cabal than any turban wearing, bearded guy ever since, and I'm going to stay that way.

If it happened to a true believer like me, I think it could happen to just about anyone with half a brain.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-10-14   18:30:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, *Alex Jones* (#0)

PING!

While I didn't vote for Bush, I bought the whole story till around the early spring of '04'.

It took time to back track and research from Iraq to Afganistan to 911.

I really wasn't looking for another view, but the whole mess in the ME, and then the glaring holes in the official fable made me take the time to read all I could. It is truely sad.

There is a new video out called "Improbable Collapse" it is very good.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/2001

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-14   19:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Kamala (#18)

Improbable Collapse

is this new video online? David Ray Griffin's got a new one too. AJ is carrying it.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-14   19:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: christine (#19)

It may be, but you know me, I have bought hard copies of as many different 911 dvds as I can. I've got a small library going.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/2001

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-14   19:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Kamala (#20)

ATS 9/11 Conspiracy Survey Results

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread215616/pg1

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-10-14   19:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Kamala (#20)

The Improbable Collapse: The Demolition of Our Republic

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-14   20:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, All (#17)

I started looking for more information, googling, seeking out skeptic sites...

Have you guys seen this site - Killtown's 9/11 smoking gun site with live links to articles, etc?

a)Killtown's 200+ 9/11 'Smoking Guns' Found in the Mainstream Media:

http://killtown.911revi ew.org/911smokingguns.html

b)Link to the Wayback Machine which you can use as needed:

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-14   21:06:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#15)

When I discussed my new found belief in 9/11 Truth with a friend of 40 years, his shameful reaction was, "Don't you think we shouldn't be discussing this sort of thing on the phone?" Precisely the type of viscerally fearful reaction to 9/11 Truth which the Bush/Cheney cabal wants to inculcate in the general public.

oh my....

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-14   21:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#17) (Edited)

(Interestingly, Rockwell's site no longer runs 9/11 Truth articles---rather it's run one or two "debunking" articles instead!)

Yes, LRC and http://Antiwar.com are very disappointing in that regard. Raimondo or some other columnist starts in with Bush not going after OBL or some such stuff and my eyes glaze over. LRC has been mocking 9/11 truthseekers here and there. But also- they have allowed Butler Shaffer to publish a piece in which he at least says that skepticism of the 9/11 official storyline is not at all unreasonable.

It's interesting- but the US government is currently blocking a Visa application of major European Moslem scholar. He is a very articulate intelligent man who advocates for assimilation of Moslems in Europe by the adoption of European cultural norms (clothing, women's rights, seperation of religion and politics etc etc . . . and the rejection of outdated "agrarian tribal values" that many immigrants from Moslem countries to Europe bring with them and don't drop). In other words this is no radical, no Jihadist . . . but a pro western Moslem.

But . . . he is an agnostic on 9/11- saying no evidence has been made available to convince him of the official story and he makes the case for this USING WESTERN STANDARDS of evidence. And also- he is extremely critical of Israel and western foreign policy in general- especially American. So - his Visa was denied because of bullshit trumped up "links to terrorists".

You know how you keep hearing from the reichwingers that they never hear from Moslems who condemn this or that evil moslem deed of the week their propaganda orgs pump out? Of course now- Moslems are all but kept off our the air. Moderate voices who could devastate morons like O'Reilly or who would not stay within the fraud parameters of the two party scam are utterly blacked out, labeled terrorists, or simply not allowed in the country.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-15   0:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#22) (Edited)

http://worldtradecentertruth.com/volume/200609/DrJonesTalksatISUPhysicsDepartment.pdf

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" href="http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php? arch=16603">http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index. php?arch=16603

I figured it was somewhere. The link above is an interview with Kevin Ryan and the other is a slide show.

In "Improbable Collapse" the footage with KR is excellent. Especially the videos of the NIST floor model tests. These are the tests I always mentioned.

AJ needs to get KR on for a full hour or more. His research and Jones' is bulletproof.

Jones just updated his paper less than 2 weeks ago. KR has been more visible than Jones, as it looks he is keeping a low key profile till things hopefully clear up at BYU.

Also, when did the edit time increase to 3 hours?

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/2001

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-15   6:15:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: noone222 (#6)

We need to flush the toilet in D.C.

Starting with the Out House.

The first mention of truth I heard was the day of 9/11. I was talking to my father and he said, "I want you to listen to me. This attack was an inside job."

angle  posted on  2006-10-15   11:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: all (#27)

I can't help that a part of me feels dirty quoting bin ladin, but here I am doing just that. This is the conversation from him on 9/28/01. Probably one of the last known authentic conversations from him.

"The countries which do not agree to become the U.S. slaves are China, Iran, Libya, Cuba, Syria [Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Iraq, Sudan, Indonesia, Malaysia] and Russia. Whoever committed the act of 11 September are not the friends of the American people. I have already said that we are against the American system, not against its people, whereas in these attacks, the common American people have been killed. According to my information, the death toll is much higher than what the U.S. Government has stated. But the Bush Administration does not want the panic to spread. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; the people who are a part of the U.S. system, but are dissenting against it. Or those who are working for some other system; persons who want to make the present century as a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity so that their own civilization, nation, country, or ideology could survive...."

I have always wondered why he didn't proclaim with glee from the outset his satisfaction in pulling this off. Why did it take months for him to "confess"?

"People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people." -- V

scooter  posted on  2006-10-15   12:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: angle (#27)

The first mention of truth I heard was the day of 9/11. I was talking to my father and he said, "I want you to listen to me. This attack was an inside job."

Wow, sounds like you have a great dad.

I initially bought the muslim story, but I realized it was an inside job sometime in 2001 after they passed the patriot act- i started doing very serious reading and research- I had always been conservative and skepitcal of govt- in 2000 I had voted for Bush although, I really wondered why a drunk frat boy failed businessman was the best the GOP could offer- something didn't seem right.... At the 2000 Dem convention in L.A. I had a small radio show and covered the protests.. I saw unbelievable police state tactics- illegally barring protest, etc.

My 911 research in late 2001 changed my life forever and changed even the way I viewed the world. It was beyond shocking, the evil of what I had found.. I once saw a very astute article about the 911 truth movement, in which the writer said that 911 and the subsequent action we decide to take, makes one question, and really decide, who they are.

Your quote about your dad telling you the painful truth is chilling. it's what we all need to do with those we love.

Artisan  posted on  2006-10-15   12:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Artisan (#29)

Thank you for your kind words about my father. He passed last year.

He also said something that gives me hope. He had been a marine and would tell about taking the beach in the Phillipines during WWII. He said you can never tell about people and how they're gonna react in a situation that requires courage. He said when they arrived and had to get off the boat and run up the beach to take the area when the Japanese were shooting at them and bombing them from the trees beyond the beach and your buddies were getting blown up beside you, there were some men who couldn't even make themselves get off the boat. Some of these were the biggest and strongest and most macho, and the little skinny quiet guy who you would never think would be the one was leading the platoon up the beach.

In these days, the idea that the heroes are among us and that you can't tell who they are is very hopeful, indeed.

angle  posted on  2006-10-15   19:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#0)

and every one of the stupid fuckers in that sixteen percent is one of the head injury patients at fraudrepubic or libertypube.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-15   20:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Artisan (#29)

911 and the subsequent action we decide to take, makes one question, and really decide, who they are.

That's quite the glass of water in the face.

angle  posted on  2006-10-15   20:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, christine, lodwick, Burkeman1, richard9151, noone222 (#0)

From Gustav

LINK

Jones's synopsis of the poll is a clever crafted mistruth:

Quote: "Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"

Quote: "When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"

See the difference? Why does Jones need to lie?

Good Question

angle  posted on  2006-10-15   22:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All, kamala (#33)

Flag to above question.

angle  posted on  2006-10-15   22:30:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: angle (#33) (Edited)

Poll quote; Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"

Jones add on Quote: "When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States,

Poll quote; Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?"

See the difference? Why does Jones need to lie?

I will admit that AJ will play fast and loose with the facts. He will have the core response/answer/fact correct, but sometimes the outer way he might present or state the answer might not be exactly precise.

The only difference I see above is a breakdown/premise/lead in or a more complete explanation of the following question. I don't see a lie.

I used to like LF, but it has degraded greatly. There seems to be a underlining "mission" to try to discredit AJ. He was around before LF and its hysterics and AJ will be around after LF is long gone.

LF has turned pretty much into seeing the Mossad/Jews/Zionists behind every blade of grass or under every rock.

You know what also, you should be encouraged by the poll and the results, instead all you focus on is the "mission" of discrediting AJ.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/2001

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-16   6:29:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Kamala (#35)

I will admit that AJ will play fast and loose with the facts. He will have the core response/answer/fact correct, but sometimes the outer way he might present or state the answer might not be exactly precise.

One must admit that AJ has built a large following from the ground up by delivering a far more accurate assessment of the globalist's actions. As far as playing fast and loose with the facts goes, he is being biased yet honest in saying only 16% believe the government explanation for 9-11 ... and I think he may be trying to put the fear of the unruly mob into the zio-nazi led neo-cons. The scum that have promoted the ME wars should find it impossible to go anywhere without being harrassed by the mob.

One thing that AJ refuses to do on air is discuss issues that are purely speculation such as Big-Foot, UFO's or the Moon Landing. This, in and of itself, lends to his credibility while keeping the conversation focused on globalist crime.

I'd like it if he would make his Sunday show less of a repeat of the week day programs, but he may think the wider audience needs to hear it. I think he has over-played the stupid Bush called me and the Ashcroft conversation this week, but I suppose we have to accept the fact that he has an ego and deal with it.

He is getting better, but he still interrupts his callers and guests tooooooooooo much.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2006-10-16   6:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Kamala (#35)

When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Yes, the poll results, per se are encouraging.

I'd like to see a more direct poll question asked and results reported to the effect of:

"Do you think that the Bush Administration is telling the truth about what happened on 9/11?" (courtesy "rearguard"):

Also, there is a group of govt shills at LF, no doubt and they are responsible for most of the disinfo/trash. Alex Jones...at least he's being discussed.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   8:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Kamala, angle (#35)

The only difference I see above is a breakdown/premise/lead in or a more complete explanation of the following question. I don't see a lie.

same here. i would not characterize that as a lie at all.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-16   10:07:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: angle (#37)

My apologies to you for I mis-read your post thinking you wrote it. My statement then would be toward LF in general.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/2001

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-16   15:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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