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Title: Pluck of the Amish
Source: Catholic Online
URL Source: http://www.catholic.org/views/views_news.php?id=21588&pid=3
Published: Oct 11, 2006
Author: Greg Erlandson, OSV
Post Date: 2006-10-15 15:02:54 by Fibr Dog
Keywords: None
Views: 144
Comments: 8

School-shooting incidents seem to come in threes for some reason, and a tragic week in late September/early October saw that deadly triumvirate rear its ugly head once again at schools in Colorado, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

Amid the ugliness of bloodshed and fear, as always, the bright lines of faithful witness seem to stand out all the more brilliantly. At Columbine in 1999, there were reports of shared prayer under fire and a high school girl's refusal to renounce her faith at gunpoint.

More recently, after a gunman killed several girls and himself in a one-room Amish schoolhouse in Bart Township, Pa., it was the simple yet resilient faith of the Amish community in the face of unspeakable tragedy.

A message of hope and forgiveness emanated throughout the community. The grandfather of one victim was quoted as telling young relatives that "we must not think evil of this man." An Amish woodworker said the incident was God's plan, and that the deceased children are "better off than their survivors" because "we believe in the hereafter." An area resident noted how the Amish would reach out to the suffering, even the killer's own family. That outreach was evident when some 75 Amish attended the man's funeral at a nearby Methodist church.

This is the kind of radical love and forgiveness to which Christ calls us in the gospels. It also reflects the supernatural perspective that tells us we were made not for this world, but for the next life. That said, even the most devout of Christians may struggle to respond in a Gospel way when violence strikes so close to home.

The Amish response to this tragedy challenges us to re-examine our own willingness to forgive others, especially those whom we find the hardest to forgive.

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#1. To: Fibr Dog (#0)

This is the kind of radical love and forgiveness to which Christ calls us in the gospels.

The Christ of the Amish is a very different Christ from that of your typical Rapture Nutter Evangelical. Watch "Reverend" Hagee some time all hoped up on his Dais altar in his Arena Dome "Church" surrounded by large screen TV's flanked by American flags with images of F-16's and Stealth fighters soaring in the sky. There couldn't be a more stark contrast that highlights the utter perversion of Christianity that mainstream Evangelical Protestanism represents.

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The Christ of the Amish is a very different Christ from that of your typical Rapture Nutter Evangelical. Watch "Reverend" Hagee some time all hoped up on his Dais altar in his Arena Dome "Church" surrounded by large screen TV's flanked by American flags with images of F-16's and Stealth fighters soaring in the sky. There couldn't be a more stark contrast that highlights the utter perversion of Christianity that mainstream Evangelical Protestanism represents.

While it is true that most evangelicals would/could not relate to the above mindset, they are not the only ones who fall short. I am Catholic and know that I am supposed to forgive in the same way the Amish forgave in the above instance, but I don't know if I would have the grace to be that forgiving. They are truly blessed.

Everytime I read the garbage posted on LP I have an internal battle with myself. One half says that I should pray for them because anyone with that much hate must have a miserable life and cannot truly know Jesus. At the same time, the other half of me wishes bodily harm upon them and their families. This is far from the forgiveness I am supposed to have. Therefore, am I any different than they are?

Another issue is the matter of the upcoming mass imprisonments of American citizens that seems imminent. One half of me wants to take up arms and use my military training to start killing people if and when the time comes. I've even publicly stated this position. However, the other half tells me this is wrong and that as a third order (lay) Carmelite, the proper action for me would be to react as the Blessed Titus Brandsma and other Catholic men and women, both lay and religious, did during WWII. They did not take up arms. Many of these men and women preached the gospel of forgiveness even as the Nazi's were performing ghastly medical experiments on them up until the day they were murdered, knowing that the suffering in this life is nothing compared to the joy of their reward in Heaven.

I am afraid that I am no better than Hagee.

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#7. To: Fibr Dog (#3)

I think there is a huge difference in Hagee and you. Hagee does what he does to increase his own influence and power. What country that Hagee wants to invade has harmed us? Probably very few.

You consider taking up arms to actually defend yourself and your loved ones. That is a very biblical concept. Aren't you the protector and leader of your family? Don't you have the obligation to protect them? If you saw your wife being raped, wouldn't you stop the crime?

Consider the people building the camps as very large and powerful bullies/criminals. You're completely justified in resisting them. What would have happened if Solzhenitsyn and his comrades had resisted the communists instead of cowering behind the door? How many more people would be alive today? Wouldn't the world be a better place? Absolutely.

These thoughts you have that it would be wrong to resist are thoughts cooked up by the enemy to neutralize you. The people bent on doing you harm know that there are thousands of us who have extensive military training and weapons. They know they have to remove us from the equation in order to succeed. This is how they do it, aided by wolves in sheep's clothing. In other words, people like Hagee.

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