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Title: David Kuo on 60 Minutes: “The name of God is being destroyed in the name of politics”
Source: crooksandliars.com ( 60 Minutes )
URL Source: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/ ... royed-in-the-name-of-politics/
Published: Oct 15, 2006
Author: crooksandliars.com
Post Date: 2006-10-15 23:00:38 by robin
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David Kuo on 60 Minutes: “The name of God is being destroyed in the name of politics”

By: SilentPatriot on Sunday, October 15th, 2006 at 6:27 PM - PDT Submit or Digg this Post

60Minutes-Kuo.jpg David Kuo, former #2 in the Bush administrations Office of Faith-Based Initiatives and author of the new book Tempting Faith, joined Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes to talk about the book's explosive revelations and the stark contrast between faith-based rhetoric and reality from an exclusive insiders perspective.

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John Amato: David Kuo comes off as a very credible and honest man. He asks Christians to take a step back from politics because something is very wrong in the White House. Will this finally wake up the Extreme Christian right to accept the fact that Rove & Bush have been using them? They mock you and ridicule you and yet you'll still line up at the ballot box.

CBS:

David Kuo is an evangelical Christian and card-carrying member of the religious right, who got a job in the White House in the president’s Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. He thought it was a dream-come-true: a chance to work for a president whose vision about compassionate conservatism would be matched with sweeping legislation to help the poor.

But Kuo says the so-called compassion agenda has fallen short of its promise and he blames President Bush for that in his new book. As correspondent Lesley Stahl reports, he also says the White House was a place that cynically used religion for political ends and that White House aides ridiculed the very Christian leaders who helped bring Mr. Bush to office.

In his book, Kuo wrote that White House staffers would roll their eyes at evangelicals, calling them "nuts" and "goofy."

Asked if that was really the attitude, Kuo tells Stahl, "Oh, absolutely. You name the important Christian leader and I have heard them mocked by serious people in serious places."

Specifically, Kuo says people in the White House political affairs office referred to Pat Robertson as "insane," Jerry Falwell as "ridiculous," and that James Dobson "had to be controlled." And President Bush, he writes, talked about his compassion agenda, but never really fought for it.

"The President of the United States promised he would be the leading lobbying on behalf of the poor. What better lobbyist could anybody get?" Kuo wonders.

What happened?

"The lobbyist didn’t follow through," he claims.

"What about 9/11?" Stahl asks. "All the priorities got turned about."

"I was there before 9/11. I know what happened before 9/11 … The trend before 9/11 was…president makes a big announcement and nothing happens," Kuo replies.

Kuo speaks as an insider. Even before he became the number two guy in the White House faith-based office, he had a long resume in the world of Christian conservatives.

Kuo says he took candidate Bush at his word during the 2000 campaign.

At the time, Bush proposed for the first time that he would spend $8 billion dollars on programs for the poor.

"I think it's one of the most important political speeches given in the last generation. I really do," says Kuo. "It laid out a whole new philosophy for Republicans."

After the election, to much fanfare, President Bush created the office of faith-based initiatives to increase funds to religious charities.

But Kuo says there were problems right off the bat. For one, he says the office dropped very quickly down the list of priorities.

Asked how much money finally went to them, Kuo says laughing, “Oh, in the first two years, first two years I think $60 million.”

"When you hold it up to a promise of $8 billion, I don't know how good I am at math, but I know that's less than one percent of a promise," says Kuo.

Part of the problem, he says, was indifference from "the base," the religious right. He took 60 Minutes to a convention of evangelical groups – his old stomping ground - and walked around the display booths, looking for any reference to the poor.

"You’ve got homosexuality in your kid’s school, and you’ve got human cloning, and partial birth abortion and divorce and stem cell," Kuo remarked. "Not a mention of the poor."

"This message that has been sent out to Christians for a long time now: that Jesus came primarily for a political agenda, and recently primarily a right-wing political agenda - as if this culture war is a war for God. And it’s not a war for God, it’s a war for politics. And that’s a huge difference," says Kuo…read on"

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#1. To: Brian S, Fibr Dog, Starwind, Jethro Tull, aristeides, MUDDOG, gengis gandhi, ..., Eoghan, mehitable, rowdee, lodwick, jessejane, Cynicom, tom007, Zipporah (#0) (Edited)

In his book, Kuo wrote that White House staffers would roll their eyes at evangelicals, calling them "nuts" and "goofy."

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-15   23:02:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#0)

they are worse than myopic.. how they cannot see for instance the voters who only vote for the antiabortion candidates.. they will vote for them based on their position on abortion but it will make NO difference but they cant see that the same people who say they are antiabortion are prowar.. which has caused the deaths of hundred of thousands of people but that is okay I suppose?

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-15   23:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#1)

calling them "nuts" and "goofy."

well I guess the WH cant always be wrong..

Omnia vincit amor et nos cedamus amori.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-15   23:08:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#2)

Makes no sense. Like this story. A girl badly wounded in Iraq has some plastic surgery in L.A.; then they flew her back to Baghdad where she is afraid to go outside and wants back in the U.S. - that's the LA Times idea of a heartwarming war story.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=37289

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-15   23:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#3)

calling them "nuts" and "goofy."

well I guess the WH cant always be wrong..

lol!

But if the Bots knew what these people really think of them!

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-15   23:12:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

Hmmm.. Isn't if funny how suddenly the Christian Vote, the Bible Belt, became, 'Fundies', Evangelicals, and thusly, nutjobs. It's a wholecloth twisting... and sad to watch it even happen here. All Catholics are apparently pedophiles, all Christians are Rapture Nutters, all Muslims are Islamo Terrorists, and Jews.. well, we won't go there.. Heaven forbid allowance in that neck of the faith.

Do you all see it too>? It pisses me off.

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-15   23:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: jessejane (#6)

Do you all see it too>?

Yes indeed.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-15   23:23:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#1)

Really couldn't expect much less. If the religious sheeple are too stoopid to actually review and take oversight action, they will be screwed just like the rest of us.

Furthermore, they deserve all they didn't 'get'. When they are content to let a ignoramus call Jesus Christ a philosopher, it tells me they aren't any too close to God.

And if that wasn't enough, he was the shaker and mover behind not letting the Lambert Resolution become a part of the party platform......... What the hell..........I am not a part of them and I found that shit out. They had their noses up his ass; its rather hard to believe they got it in as far as to cover their ears!

I don't want to hear any boo hoos from that bunch. They make a mockery of God's Word is all about.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-16   0:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#1)

and you know, all these false prophets, like robertson, et al, claim the ability to divine the intent of god, and to channel the holy spirit in some form.

why then, didn't they see this stuff?

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-16   12:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rowdee (#8)

I don't want to hear any boo hoos from that bunch. They make a mockery of God's Word is all about.

And now they know just what the WH really thinks of them too.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:24:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: gengis gandhi (#9)

I think they are being bribed and/or blackmailed. They don't actually call it channeling, but maybe they do now. I quit following what they say and believe when they were silent about Abu Ghraib, silent about Lebanon, silent about the Palestinians, silent about Mark Foley (except to excuse it and call it a teenage prank - Dobson said that). No the Teletubbies and Sponge Bob Square Pants cartoons are far more important, and calling for Hugo Chavez to be assassinated (how Christ like!).

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#11)

sheep are known for their tendency to get fleeced.

'we're all christ's sheep'...and they say that like thats a good thing. but i suspect christ would rather have canaries in a coal mine than mindless sheep.

the overall, common denominator in organized religion is to outsource your judgement and connection to the divine to some proxy. the ironic thing is that this tendency was the very prime thing christ railed against, allowing the pharisees to be the intermediary to ones connection.

this fucking planet is like the universe's classroom for slow kids.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-16   12:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: gengis gandhi (#12)

this fucking planet is like the universe's classroom for slow kids.

lol!

You make some good points, to be sure.

I once heard a great sermon on how stupid and helpless sheep are (calling us sheep is no compliment).

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:36:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#13)

the actual directive was, as i recall, 'be meek as kittens, but cunning as serpents'

serpents. again with the serpent reference.

nothing about, hey, be a buncha fucking sheep and get yourself in deep shit...that's what enlightenment, learning and salvation is all about!

mainstream churchianity is based on a power robbing, victimhood mentality. meekness. weakness, etc.

and those passages the preachers never, EVER, mention are...overturning the moneychangers tables and beating them with braided cords, by christ, and...'sell your cloak, buy a sword'...

this is why it is plain to see that the original message of gaining power, of reclaiming a divine birthright as inviolable, has been substituted for a cheap, weak version of spiritual socialism, where being weak and dumb is a virtue, dependence is worthwhile, and one should be content in the place the state decides one be, not to mention that, as in socialism, all will be done for you if you just give your support.

compare this to soviet style communism. they have enshrined the state as god, by default, when one looks at the total of the professed theology. in addition, 'give to caesar what is caesers, and to god what is god's'

of course, this easily means that nothing belongs to 'caesar', and all is the province of god. do preachers frame it this way? of course not.

they frame this as paying your taxes and being obedient to the state, god, is your duty. while the moneychangers rob you blind.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-16   12:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: gengis gandhi (#14)

nothing about, hey, be a buncha fucking sheep and get yourself in deep shit...that's what enlightenment, learning and salvation is all about!

"be wise as serpents and innocent as doves", is the way I recall it. Yes, that's a good one to remember!

has been substituted for a cheap, weak version of spiritual socialism, where being weak and dumb is a virtue, dependence is worthwhile, and one should be content in the place the state decides one be, not to mention that, as in socialism, all will be done for you if you just give your support.

compare this to soviet style communism. they have enshrined the state as god, by default, when one looks at the total of the professed theology. in addition, 'give to caesar what is caesers, and to god what is god's'

Worship the state. Yes, the Bolsheviks had no place for Christianity or any kind of spirituality. Nikita said that by 1980, he would "show you the last Priest!".

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#1)

They can say Kuo's demon-possessed.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-10-16   17:08:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: gengis gandhi (#14)

this is why it is plain to see that the original message of gaining power, of reclaiming a divine birthright as inviolable, has been substituted for a cheap, weak version of spiritual socialism, where being weak and dumb is a virtue, dependence is worthwhile, and one should be content in the place the state decides one be, not to mention that, as in socialism, all will be done for you if you just give your support.

You sound a lot like Nietzsche.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-16   17:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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