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Title: Confessions Of A 911 Hitman
Source: www.rense.com
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general73/confess.htm
Published: Oct 15, 2006
Author: Douglas Herman
Post Date: 2006-10-15 23:45:22 by robin
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Confessions Of A 911 Hitman
How & Why I Helped Blow Up The World Trade Center
By Douglas Herman
Exclusive to Rense.com
10-13-6

I'm retired now. But five years ago I helped blow up the WTC complex. I was paid a half million dollars, tax free, for my time and trouble. I don't know what the rest of my crew was paid--maybe a little more, maybe a little less. Not that I care much. In operations like this one, where dozens and dozens of top technicians operated like a team, nobody knew the entire operation or who was who, or what everybody got paid---the big picture, as people call it. Better that way. Better that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Living on the beach here in Cartagena, Columbia I've had lots of time to reflect. Lots more time to wonder. What surprises me most, however, is how very few intelligent people in America question the obvious signature of the crime, even after five years.

How did we do it and why did we do it? The absolute audacity and cleverness still surprises me. The planners knew that success was the only option and so they spent years, not months, designing the perfect plan. What you call murder, I call the perfect crime. What you call an act of terror, I call the perfect diversion.
The intelligent people who run your country know that America depends on a continuous supply of oil. They also know that Americans use far more oil than they can produce here in America. They also know that if anyone in the Middle East were allowed to sell oil for euros--which Iraq attempted to do and Iran is threatening to do---and thus break the monopoly of US petrodollars, America might just go down the tubes. At least that is how it was explained to me, one of the reasons we were doing what we were doing, in the weeks and months during our furious preparations.
But if the US was attacked by terrorists, however, by rogue clients of ME states, then America could retaliate, occupy their countries, insert puppet leaders like the Shah of Iran, and continue siphoning oil forever. And hundreds of people would make billions, while thousands of multinational companies--not just Halliburton--would profit immensely.

And so America needed to be attacked.
But the attack needed to be spectacular. And the targets needed to be high image targets that represented America but was really stuff that could be rebuilt. Rebuilt at a profit. And so you saw the Pentagon targeted rather than the Congress building. Because Congress still needed someplace to meet and declare war against those nations that attacked America.
MY job was to wire explosives inside the various WTC buildings. We wired buildings 1, 2, 6, and 7. We hardwired some areas and attached explosives and electronic detonators to many other key structural joints. We did this weeks in advance. WTC-7 fell in a classic controlled demolition (See example) but the Twin Towers required a lot more ingenuity. The fellow who planned the actual sequence of detonations is a genius. He was rumored to have been paid seven or eight figures and is a fucking master. Almost like a composer of a symphony orchestra but better. Much better.

Entry into even the most secure areas of the WTC complex was easy. The badges and identifications were specially made. We had a guy at the top, an insider, who supplied the entry passes. We were the invisible people, those people who you see everyday but don't see. We were the janitors and maintenance men you take for granted but who have far more access in your own building than you'll ever have. Like I said, this whole operation was designed years in advance and took months to assemble the teams of top specialists. Then we worked weeks together to attack each key area of the plan. Like a builder using a blueprint.
Those people who say it couldn't be done, or only hijackers in airplanes could do it, really piss me off. Because we did it. For example, instead of building the Hoover Dam we took it down, piece by piece in a couple hours, and made each step look believable. Made it look like the dam just burst naturally.

The majority of ignorant people say, "fires brought the buildings down." We just smile and say, yes they did. Most people don't know that steel doesn't melt from fuel fires but melted steel was found weeks later in the substructure of the WTC. Nobody seems to want to know how that happened to perfectly good steel. Most people don't know thermite was used in World War II or that explosives and detonaters can be attached and then remotely detonated from blocks away in whatever sequence you choose. That was why when you watched the middle part of the towers explode--pancake down as the experts claimed---the upper parts of the twin towers were being simultaneously detonated as the lower parts were crumbling. If we hadn't done that you would have seen 30 to 40 story segment sitting on the rubble pile.
Like I said it was a work of genius.
Am I sorry that almost 3,000 people got killed? Sure. Are you sorry that you, personally, use so much foreign oil?

And are you sorry that all these faked resource wars have to be concocted so that you can get that oil and live comfortably? Didn't think so.

Investigators on those TV crime shows, the CSI people, always try to understand who benefits by the bloody crime. If you understand that many people benefitted by 9-11, by the WTC destruction, then you are more than halfway to solving the crime. Not just who dunnit, but how dunnit and why dunnit.
The benefits of the plan were manifold. Everyone involved profited. The political zealots at the Pentagon got there holy war, or wars, that would benefit Israel while weakening the entire ME. The corporate--connected people got billions in new contracts. The military people got new toys.

Meanwhile the more pragmatic planners assembled a team to start removing gold and silver from below building 4 as soon as the remote-controlled planes struck the towers. We had teams taking bullion from the vaults immediately before and after the towers fell. Miles of tunnels connected the complex. Teams had seven hours to remove as much bullion as they could. The falling towers, the smoke, the fires, the sirens, that was all a grand diversion going on in the streets above. Like I said the plan was designed to appear to be an Islamic terrorist attack yet functioned perfectly as an enormous, gigantic bank robbery. The biggest heist in history.
Was I underpaid? Probably. But I was just one cog in this smooth functioning yet risky machine. Some internet blogger speculated that only 50-51 men could pull off this perfect crime, but I think it had to be several hundred experts involved.
Who were we? Americans, Israelis, South Africans, Brits, Irish. All top specialists. The best of the best. Like that popular TV show, the Mission Impossible force, that was us. Quite a few former special forces, several top intelligence men, financial wizards, some foreign mercenaries, Israeli demo specialists, electronic specialists, security specialists. You name it.
How to keep everyone quiet, you ask? You heard the old saying, two can keep a secret if one of them is dead? Well a thousand can keep a secret if everyone is happy and everyone is very well paid. You also heard that old saying, honor among thieves? Well why would anyone want to rat on someone else? And even if one person got shitfaced drunk and bragged about bringing down the trade towers, who would believe him. After all, we all saw the hijacked jets crashed into the Trade Towers, right? And then we all saw that fuel fires weakened the steel and brought down those same towers, right?

No one will ever catch us. Who would investigate? Hugo Chavez? We commited the perfect crime and got away with it.
But like I said at the beginning, the crime was obviously a crime to anyone who even glanced at the pictures on the TV. It was so fucking obvious it still makes me laugh. What happened was a classic diversion. The towers fell; two or three ME countries were blamed. A suitable villain was fingered.
But you have hundreds of millions in stolen gold--did Osama steal it? You have those jackpot insurance claims on a pair of architecturel white elephants, leased only months before (giving us enough time to wire them). You have fake pilots that couldn't fly, doing maneuvers in Boeing jumbo jets that were electronically programmed not to allow pilots to fly that way. You have FBI and CIA head honchos looking the other way. I could go on and on. But isn't that what your real CSI people should be doing--but aren't? Isn't that what your real detectives should be doing--but aren't?

If a farmer finds his henhouse raided by a fox, he tracks the fox through the snow and discovers the burrow and sees the feathers and the blood. Well, you've seen the feathers and the blood all over the people who planned 9-11 but still you can't seem to put the pieces of this great crime together. Why is that?
Longtime Rense writer, Douglas Herman wrote the suspense novel, The Guns of Dallas, that features a confessed hitman revealing the perfect scenario for the murder of JFK. The above scenario is fiction but probably far closer to the truth than anything yet offered in the so-called fact based media.
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#175. To: Destro (#94)

There is nothing wrong with your speculation and your theory. I happen to believe your theory and that the towers were demolished with charges. They are not mutually exclusive.

And I don't think there is much moral difference between the government backing the 9/11 terrorists and turning a blind eye to their attacks on this country and setting charges in the WTC. They are both the same in my opinion.

I think the charges were more than likely backups. I imagine the planners hoped the planes would do more damage and cause a collapse or partial collapses with huge chunks of the building flying into others and causing thousands of deaths. But- when it became apparrent to the conspirators that the Towers were not that damaged (as they were monitoring all emergency communications from WTC seven I imagine) they "pulled" the towers.

They needed spectacular attacks- a smoking crater- thousands of deaths- a searing image. Two towers with holes in them that could be repaired or just demolished slowly with 800 people killed? Uh uh. That is a bad train accident in India- not a rallying cry to start a never ending war. They needed an event. They got it with the towers coming down- and from what I have read I believe they came down with charges. Now, were your Moslems used? More than likely.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-16   18:34:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Destro (#1)

In fact demolitions won't bring down a building in and of themselves.

It happens routinely. You don't know what you are talking about.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   18:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: Destro (#10)

I don't know if you all are aware of my posting history.

Your posting history would only tend to expose you as an agent.

WTC7, wake up dude! People on this site are not as dense as the PM readers are.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   18:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Destro (#11)

WTC7 already had a chuck of it taken out when the other buildings fell and then the fire weakened the rest of it. A slow cook of thousands of gallons of diesel oil inside the WTC7.

Only a moron would say such a thing. You have been exposed moron!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   18:45:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: Destro (#18) (Edited)

It was in reference to pulling out of WTC 7 and not trying to save it.

There was no one to pull CIA dimwit. No firefighters were in there.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   18:51:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Ferret Mike (#171)

And fuel spilled aloft did not fracture the very strong 'bathtub' of concrete sunk deep in the Earth to keep the river at bay

911 Mysteries: Demolitions demonstrated that so well.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-16   18:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Destro (#19)

Wrong - chunks of the collapsed towers flew into WTC7.

They flew? Did they sprout wings and fly? Unfreakinbelieveable!

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   18:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: It Is A Republic (#25)

The above scenario is fiction but probably far closer to the truth than anything yet offered in the so-called fact based media.

It's amazing how many people don't read the whole article before replying.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   18:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: Destro (#31)

So when are you all going to head into the mountains and form the resistance?

Mountains? 84% know the government is lying, we are not exactly hiding. When are YOU planning on heading to the mountains?

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   19:05:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: YertleTurtle (#36)

There was nothing out of the ordinary at the speed they fell.

Yertle, no offence, but you are an idiot.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   19:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: angle (#160)

Damn straight you're a shill. If you call for the elimination of America, you're a traitor as well. The penalty for treason is death. Keep it in mind.

Me and good ole General Lee.

As long as America supports the al-Qaeda Muslims in the Balkans I support the Christians against America.

I remember the Easter Day bombing of Belgrade and that I can't forgive.

By the way talk about karma - Muslims from the Bosnian army supplied with help from the USA carried out 9/11 - how sweet indeed.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: angle (#166)

Bwahahahahaaaa. This must be Kudzu from LF.

Kudzu is an American who works for the Saudis. I support Serbs who kill such Saudi-American Muslims in the Balkans.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: InsideJob, angle (#168)

The penalty for treason is death. Keep it in mind.

In Dante's vision of Hell, level 9 was the worst and was reserved for traitors only.

General Lee is in hell? Sign me up.

So let me get this straight you think America's leadership carried out 9/11 and are still loyal to said nation?

Just who is going to hell here and who deserves death?

If you guys were not getting my meaning - here it is - if I accept that America's leadership carried out 9/11 then there IS NO ALTERNATIVE but to seek the ending of America.

You are convinced America did it and you do nothing to remove such criminals? What kind of cowardly savages are you?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: RickyJ (#177)

Your posting history would only tend to expose you as an agent.

Maybe for Serbia.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Destro (#186) (Edited)

Kudzu is an American who works for the Saudis. I support Serbs who kill such Saudi-American Muslims in the Balkans.

Thanks for the clarification...you must have overlapping talking points regarding the wet noodle steel.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   19:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: Destro (#187)

you're having quite a lot of fun today.

but everyone can see that the leaders of our country do not represent our country. Just because evil exists here and criminal acts occur here does not mean that our nation is any more evil than another nation. Criminal acts occur around the world.

The United States is different from the American nation. the clique that rules us did not spring from among us.

All of these things are now obvious to the casual observer. The democracy ideology that somehow 'we the people' rule is a ridiculous ideology.

If your words are to be taken seriously, then I guess you'd do the right thing and kill yourself because evil came from our nation and you are of our nation. maybe our forum would be better off if that were to happen. but I do not advocate it.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-16   19:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: RickyJ (#183)

Mountains? 84% know the government is lying, we are not exactly hiding. When are YOU planning on heading to the mountains?

Heh! Soon as the Serbs attack the Americans and wipe them all out. God willing.

If you guys were not getting my tongue in cheek meaning - here it is - if I accept that America's leadership carried out the demolition part of 9/11 then there IS NO ALTERNATIVE but to seek the ending of America.

You are convinced America did 9/11 and you do nothing to remove such criminals? What kind of cowardly savages are you?

How can I not pray Putin sends in a few Spetsnaz to end this charade of a nation if I accept America carried out a planned demolition of 9/11.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: robin (#0)

Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Officials Question 9/11 Commission Report .

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-16   19:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: Destro (#187)

if I accept that America's leadership carried out 9/11 then there IS NO ALTERNATIVE but to seek the ending of America.

Did you not finish logic in college? Let me help:

...if I accept that America's leadership carried out 9/11 then there IS NO ALTERNATIVE but to seek the ending of America's leadership.

Can you grasp the difference?

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   19:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: Red Jones, swarthyguy, burkeman1 (#190)

If your words are to be taken seriously, then I guess you'd do the right thing and kill yourself because evil came from our nation and you are of our nation. maybe our forum would be better off if that were to happen. but I do not advocate it.

Yea, but I am a traitor in waiting and thus redeemed.

but everyone can see that the leaders of our country do not represent our country.

That did not stop America from killing children in hospitals or innocent bystanders on bridges in Serbia.

You must understand I WOULD LOVE TO EMBRACE the demolition theory of 9/11 because I could then use that in my arsenal agains Uncle Son of Sam - but I can't - I see it as a honey trap - the kind I read about when I studied this sort of thing in school - an appealing but distracting conspiracy theory that sucks away credibility and resources from the real deal.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: angle (#193)

...if I accept that America's leadership carried out 9/11 then there IS NO ALTERNATIVE but to seek the ending of America's leadership.

Can you grasp the difference?

Correct, but the American people allow such leadership - empower it and do nothing against it thus from their diseased body such leadership arises and thus that body need be cut up to prevent such cancer from growing a new head.

Agree or disagree?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   19:35:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Destro (#187)

if I accept that America's leadership carried out 9/11 then there IS NO ALTERNATIVE but to seek the ending of America.

how about making the distinction between ending the treasonous corrupt american government, which has become the enemy of we-the-people, rather than America?

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-16   19:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Destro (#52) (Edited)

The freefall rate is one man's work based on his own assumptions - a man not involved in the construction or demolition industry.

I can't believe the low quality crap the CIA is paying for these days. I guess it beats a job at McDonald's huh?

The free fall rate in vacuum close to the Earth's surface is on average exactly: 9.81 m/s^2

Both buildings, WTC1 and WTC2, are recorded by seismographs as falling in about 10 seconds. That is almost the same speed (given the height of the buildings it would have taken them approximately 9.2 seconds to completely fall in a vacuum) they would fall if NOTHING, including air molecules, were impeding their fall. But they had the rest of the building impeding its fall, which would have greatly increased the length of time for the buildings to fall.

The pancake theory is a joke. Even if somehow one floor fell all at once to the floor beneath it and started a domino effect where all the floors collapsed the 47, I repeat 47, core steel columns that held up the entire weight of the building and were over engineered to handle much more weight than that, would not have collapsed. The floors falling alone could not have caused these 47 core steel columns to fail. And if you watch the North Tower fall you can see the antenna on top of the North Tower begin to fall first. Why is this significant? Because it was built directly on top of the core. It could not have fallen first unless the core was taken out first.

I suggest you give up your shill efforts at this forum. No one here will respond to your silliness for too long and you will be exposed for the crackpot government theory nut you are.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   19:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Destro (#195)

Agree or disagree?

This is actually a very logical question. I haven't shot one of these scumbags b/c I'm a decent human being, much more willing to love than hate. Americans for the most part are like me, I suspect. Now should someone else - unknown to me - make one of these POS a piece of swiss cheese, such is life :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-16   19:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: Destro (#195)

Correct, but the American people allow such leadership -

yes, this is true and, imo, we are in much need of a second revolution. good luck though. i don't see enough of us who aren't dependent on this treasonous corrupt government to want an end to it.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-16   19:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: Destro (#194)

You must understand I WOULD LOVE TO EMBRACE the demolition theory of 9/11

That is difficult to believe, Destro, when you refuse to look at videos which will prove it and instead make outrageous statements such as, "they failed because they were softened by the fire. Steel turns to wet noodles in fire."

Please read Uncle Bill's post here

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-16   19:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: Destro (#72) (Edited)

So when will you rise up and target the regime? I am for wiping out America from stem to stern - scattering her seed - salting her earth if the above scenario is true.

Hell, I am ready to do that right now for what America did in Bosnia and Kosovo.

Yet you haven't done it. What are you, a coward?

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-16   19:54:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: aristeides, Itisa1mosttoolate, Destro, Kamala, angle (#192)

Senior Military, Intelligence, and Government Officials Question 9/11 Commission Report

great link, thanks.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   19:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Agent Destro (#187)

General Lee is in hell? Sign me up.

You don't understand 19th century politics do you?

You don't understand that prior to the civil war the state in which a person resided was considered their country. Lee hated slavery and he hated the fact that the south wanted to secede from the union but, his state(country)came first.

Now you've definitely exposed yourself as a 'big government' shill.

formerly GJones.

InsideJob  posted on  2006-10-16   20:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: RickyJ, Destro, christine, All (#197)

I suggest you give up your shill efforts at this forum. No one here will respond to your silliness for too long and you will be exposed for the crackpot government theory nut you are.

That is why I have wasted no time on this thread. Been there, done that, enough said. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-16   20:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: christine (#196)

how about making the distinction between ending the treasonous corrupt american government, which has become the enemy of we-the-people, rather than America?

When? If you buy this scenario that the US govt is so evil when will you remove them?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:08:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: christine (#200)

That is difficult to believe, Destro, when you refuse to look at videos which will prove it and instead make outrageous statements such as, "they failed because they were softened by the fire. Steel turns to wet noodles in fire."

I will tell you in private.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:10:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: christine (#199)

yes, this is true and, imo, we are in much need of a second revolution.

It is called the Socratic method of debate. It takes a while to score but it works.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Destro (#205)

If you buy this scenario that the US govt is so evil when will you remove them?

oh, if i could be God for just one day.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-16   20:12:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: RickyJ (#201) (Edited)

Yet you haven't done it. What are you, a coward?

I know Americans are piss poor when it comes to history, geography and current events. There is no warfare going on in Kosovo at the moment. And I am not a Serb so it would not be my place.

In the last war the pre-neoconned Republican congress voted against Clinton's request for support of the war. This means that as an American I could be against the war through political means.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: InsideJob (#203) (Edited)

Now you've definitely exposed yourself as a 'big government' shill.

LOL! Because I admire General Lee and how he killed tens of thousands of Americans?

Or is it because I question you loony tune theories?

I already said the US laedership is implicated in 9/11 somehow - I discount the demolition theory because I was there in my office on 9/11 and saw the events with my own eyes.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:19:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: Destro (#210)

Because I admire General Lee and how he killed tens of thousands of Americans?

Don't twist it around.

You know what I mean.

Besides the slavery issue what was another reason the south seceded? To prevent an omni-present centralized government which is exactly what happened.

formerly GJones.

InsideJob  posted on  2006-10-16   20:35:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: InsideJob (#211)

Besides the slavery issue what was another reason the south seceded? To prevent an omni-present centralized government which is exactly what happened.

and I support this how?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: Destro (#212)

There you go...twisting it around again. You know damn well what I'm inferring.

formerly GJones.

InsideJob  posted on  2006-10-16   20:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: InsideJob (#213)

There you go...twisting it around again. You know damn well what I'm inferring.

Now you've definitely exposed yourself as a 'big government' shill

You called me a 'big government' shill - how so?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   20:46:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: Burkeman1 (#175)

"from what I have read I believe they came down with charges. "

For some reason I have almost no interest in 9/11, and have not read up on all the theories, though I am vaguely aware of them. All I can say is that just from hearing the news as events unfurled, the facts of the government's story did not add up to me, and I mean starting right from the day it happened. Regarding this controlled demo business though; as I recall, the aim of the '93 truck bomb in the basement of the Trade Center was to topple the towers. It seems to me that after that failed attempt it would make sense that the city government, owners of surrounding buildings, insurance companies and other interested parties could see some advantage to having demolitions preinstalled in the towers just in case another attack mortally wounded the buildings. In such a scenario the buildings could be preemptively destroyed in a controlled fashion thus minimizing the damage to the surrounding buildings. If such safety precautions did exist then the fall of the towers could have been government ordained and executed prematurely through a combination of panic and faulty damage assessment - or maliciously by this administration for a big, splashy "Pearl Harbor" effect. I personally lean towards the later explanation as being most likely but then again, I haven't followed things closely so maybe I'm missing some important "facts." But considering the history of this country's government, and the temperament of the neocons, their publicly stated policy goals, and circumstantial evidence, I have to suspect malfeasance first and foremost.

u-89  posted on  2006-10-16   21:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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