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Title: Confessions Of A 911 Hitman
Source: www.rense.com
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general73/confess.htm
Published: Oct 15, 2006
Author: Douglas Herman
Post Date: 2006-10-15 23:45:22 by robin
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Confessions Of A 911 Hitman
How & Why I Helped Blow Up The World Trade Center
By Douglas Herman
Exclusive to Rense.com
10-13-6

I'm retired now. But five years ago I helped blow up the WTC complex. I was paid a half million dollars, tax free, for my time and trouble. I don't know what the rest of my crew was paid--maybe a little more, maybe a little less. Not that I care much. In operations like this one, where dozens and dozens of top technicians operated like a team, nobody knew the entire operation or who was who, or what everybody got paid---the big picture, as people call it. Better that way. Better that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
Living on the beach here in Cartagena, Columbia I've had lots of time to reflect. Lots more time to wonder. What surprises me most, however, is how very few intelligent people in America question the obvious signature of the crime, even after five years.

How did we do it and why did we do it? The absolute audacity and cleverness still surprises me. The planners knew that success was the only option and so they spent years, not months, designing the perfect plan. What you call murder, I call the perfect crime. What you call an act of terror, I call the perfect diversion.
The intelligent people who run your country know that America depends on a continuous supply of oil. They also know that Americans use far more oil than they can produce here in America. They also know that if anyone in the Middle East were allowed to sell oil for euros--which Iraq attempted to do and Iran is threatening to do---and thus break the monopoly of US petrodollars, America might just go down the tubes. At least that is how it was explained to me, one of the reasons we were doing what we were doing, in the weeks and months during our furious preparations.
But if the US was attacked by terrorists, however, by rogue clients of ME states, then America could retaliate, occupy their countries, insert puppet leaders like the Shah of Iran, and continue siphoning oil forever. And hundreds of people would make billions, while thousands of multinational companies--not just Halliburton--would profit immensely.

And so America needed to be attacked.
But the attack needed to be spectacular. And the targets needed to be high image targets that represented America but was really stuff that could be rebuilt. Rebuilt at a profit. And so you saw the Pentagon targeted rather than the Congress building. Because Congress still needed someplace to meet and declare war against those nations that attacked America.
MY job was to wire explosives inside the various WTC buildings. We wired buildings 1, 2, 6, and 7. We hardwired some areas and attached explosives and electronic detonators to many other key structural joints. We did this weeks in advance. WTC-7 fell in a classic controlled demolition (See example) but the Twin Towers required a lot more ingenuity. The fellow who planned the actual sequence of detonations is a genius. He was rumored to have been paid seven or eight figures and is a fucking master. Almost like a composer of a symphony orchestra but better. Much better.

Entry into even the most secure areas of the WTC complex was easy. The badges and identifications were specially made. We had a guy at the top, an insider, who supplied the entry passes. We were the invisible people, those people who you see everyday but don't see. We were the janitors and maintenance men you take for granted but who have far more access in your own building than you'll ever have. Like I said, this whole operation was designed years in advance and took months to assemble the teams of top specialists. Then we worked weeks together to attack each key area of the plan. Like a builder using a blueprint.
Those people who say it couldn't be done, or only hijackers in airplanes could do it, really piss me off. Because we did it. For example, instead of building the Hoover Dam we took it down, piece by piece in a couple hours, and made each step look believable. Made it look like the dam just burst naturally.

The majority of ignorant people say, "fires brought the buildings down." We just smile and say, yes they did. Most people don't know that steel doesn't melt from fuel fires but melted steel was found weeks later in the substructure of the WTC. Nobody seems to want to know how that happened to perfectly good steel. Most people don't know thermite was used in World War II or that explosives and detonaters can be attached and then remotely detonated from blocks away in whatever sequence you choose. That was why when you watched the middle part of the towers explode--pancake down as the experts claimed---the upper parts of the twin towers were being simultaneously detonated as the lower parts were crumbling. If we hadn't done that you would have seen 30 to 40 story segment sitting on the rubble pile.
Like I said it was a work of genius.
Am I sorry that almost 3,000 people got killed? Sure. Are you sorry that you, personally, use so much foreign oil?

And are you sorry that all these faked resource wars have to be concocted so that you can get that oil and live comfortably? Didn't think so.

Investigators on those TV crime shows, the CSI people, always try to understand who benefits by the bloody crime. If you understand that many people benefitted by 9-11, by the WTC destruction, then you are more than halfway to solving the crime. Not just who dunnit, but how dunnit and why dunnit.
The benefits of the plan were manifold. Everyone involved profited. The political zealots at the Pentagon got there holy war, or wars, that would benefit Israel while weakening the entire ME. The corporate--connected people got billions in new contracts. The military people got new toys.

Meanwhile the more pragmatic planners assembled a team to start removing gold and silver from below building 4 as soon as the remote-controlled planes struck the towers. We had teams taking bullion from the vaults immediately before and after the towers fell. Miles of tunnels connected the complex. Teams had seven hours to remove as much bullion as they could. The falling towers, the smoke, the fires, the sirens, that was all a grand diversion going on in the streets above. Like I said the plan was designed to appear to be an Islamic terrorist attack yet functioned perfectly as an enormous, gigantic bank robbery. The biggest heist in history.
Was I underpaid? Probably. But I was just one cog in this smooth functioning yet risky machine. Some internet blogger speculated that only 50-51 men could pull off this perfect crime, but I think it had to be several hundred experts involved.
Who were we? Americans, Israelis, South Africans, Brits, Irish. All top specialists. The best of the best. Like that popular TV show, the Mission Impossible force, that was us. Quite a few former special forces, several top intelligence men, financial wizards, some foreign mercenaries, Israeli demo specialists, electronic specialists, security specialists. You name it.
How to keep everyone quiet, you ask? You heard the old saying, two can keep a secret if one of them is dead? Well a thousand can keep a secret if everyone is happy and everyone is very well paid. You also heard that old saying, honor among thieves? Well why would anyone want to rat on someone else? And even if one person got shitfaced drunk and bragged about bringing down the trade towers, who would believe him. After all, we all saw the hijacked jets crashed into the Trade Towers, right? And then we all saw that fuel fires weakened the steel and brought down those same towers, right?

No one will ever catch us. Who would investigate? Hugo Chavez? We commited the perfect crime and got away with it.
But like I said at the beginning, the crime was obviously a crime to anyone who even glanced at the pictures on the TV. It was so fucking obvious it still makes me laugh. What happened was a classic diversion. The towers fell; two or three ME countries were blamed. A suitable villain was fingered.
But you have hundreds of millions in stolen gold--did Osama steal it? You have those jackpot insurance claims on a pair of architecturel white elephants, leased only months before (giving us enough time to wire them). You have fake pilots that couldn't fly, doing maneuvers in Boeing jumbo jets that were electronically programmed not to allow pilots to fly that way. You have FBI and CIA head honchos looking the other way. I could go on and on. But isn't that what your real CSI people should be doing--but aren't? Isn't that what your real detectives should be doing--but aren't?

If a farmer finds his henhouse raided by a fox, he tracks the fox through the snow and discovers the burrow and sees the feathers and the blood. Well, you've seen the feathers and the blood all over the people who planned 9-11 but still you can't seem to put the pieces of this great crime together. Why is that?
Longtime Rense writer, Douglas Herman wrote the suspense novel, The Guns of Dallas, that features a confessed hitman revealing the perfect scenario for the murder of JFK. The above scenario is fiction but probably far closer to the truth than anything yet offered in the so-called fact based media.
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#35. To: aristeides, It Is A Republic (#34)

If Al Qaeda was really the bunch that pulled off 9/11, wouldn't they have been able to prevent the defeat of the Taliban in Afghanistan?

Bad application of logic.

You forget two things.

1) al-Qaeda is an insurgency based organization.

2) The 9/11 cell was able to operate in the USA because they were American intelligence assets - one of many such jihadi groups allowed to enter into the USA to train and raise money and organize to carry out jihad against mutual enemies of al-Qaeda and America like Serbia and Russia.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   11:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: robin (#13)

And if you're so smart how do you explain the free fall speed at which these buildings fell?

I'm been involved in construction since the day I was born, and have seen many buildings fall. There was nothing out of the ordinary at the speed they fell. They also -- all of them -- fall into their own "footprint."

This is why you never see articles by those involved in demolition support these goofy theories.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-16   11:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: aristeides (#34)

I do not think the 9-11 hijacker jokers and those who planned it ever expected the catastropic results they got. If they (again, whoever they are) did plan the implosion and destruction of the WTC, it was the results they attempted to attain. Being able to plan and pull off that mission would imply more ability than most give this group in power and more than they have shown in ALL their other endeavors.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-16   11:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: It Is A Republic (#32)

well, I appreciate your argument in #32. that is a rational argument.

I don't agree with your assessment of the MSM. the MSM is a dishonest propaganda tool IMHO. also, the simple facts of 911 don't jibe with official explanations.

But I put it to you that if our only goal was to topple saddam and free Iraq, that it would've been achieved easily. Saddam and his regime were removed very quickly & easily. the thing to do then would be for the US forces to leave the scene and let other isntitutions take over, mostly iraqi institutions and international efforts too, they could've easily transitioned to a democracy. Remember, Iraq had a democracy from 1933 to mid 1950's.

the US goal in Iraq is not for Iraq to be free though. the goal is for Iraq to be dominated strongly. this is why we're having so much trouble - it is difficult nation to subjugate, especially with only 150,000 troops on the ground.

Don't under-estimate also, that war seems to be the big goal, instigating a wider war seems likely to be part of the real goal. the people who set US policy are not incompetent, they are doing precisely and exactly what they desire.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-16   11:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: YertleTurtle, robin (#36)

I'm been involved in construction since the day I was born, and have seen many buildings fall. There was nothing out of the ordinary at the speed they fell. They also -- all of them -- fall into their own "footprint."

This is why you never see articles by those involved in demolition support these goofy theories.

That is a good point - no one of those pushing the demolition theory has a background in construction or the demolition business.

And what you said is also true - all high-rise buildings are designed to fall in on themselves in cases of structural failure to prevent the timber effect.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   11:48:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: YertleTurtle (#36)

I'm been involved in construction since the day I was born, and have seen many buildings fall. There was nothing out of the ordinary at the speed they fell.

Yup, those 1000+ foot tall towers are falling all the time. Yup, by the hundreds. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-10-16   11:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Red Jones, It Is A Republic (#38)

I don't agree with your assessment of the MSM. the MSM is a dishonest propaganda tool IMHO. also, the simple facts of 911 don't jibe with official explanations.

To my thinking, the real conspiracy is the fact that these 9/11 Muslims had ties with our intel orgs.

Now did our pet Muslims - used by the USA via proxies to fight the Russians and Serbs and Chinese and Indians - go rogue and double cross us?

Or were they doing what elements within our power structure wanted?

Maybe a little of both? That is the question - not how the buildings fell down - which is self evident.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   11:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Destro (#41)

not how the buildings fell down - which is self evident.

Not so.

Believers of the official collapse theory are generally full of contradiction and you seem to be one of them. In one breath you say it would be too difficult to rig the buildings with explosives to take them down, and then in the next breath say that a plane takes out a few columns and a fire weakens a few more and that causes a total collapse to the ground of 2 110 story buildings.

It's one or the other. The buildings are easy to take down, or difficult, but not both.

I don't believe it was a "controlled" demolition. I think it was an uncontrolled demolition, but a demolition none the less.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-10-16   11:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Destro (#41)

Or were they doing what elements within our power structure wanted?

If they had assistance from people working inside the buildings, I don't see how that could have happened without assistance from inside the government.

And just how did they manage to time their attack to be simultaneous with the air defense exercises going on that morning?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-16   12:00:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Critter (#42)

Believers of the official collapse theory are generally full of contradiction and you seem to be one of them.

I beleive in the official planes hit the building theory.

Why do you guys assume that they needed an additional building collapse to make the day more horrible?

The WTC was built in a non traditional way. It was not built like the Empire State Building or other previous skyrisers. It was a columnless structure - supported by a core and the outer skin. Thie made for quick construction and an open floor space. So it would be a miracle of the building could stand up with such gashes in its superstructure.

But the govt loves people going nuts over this because this becomes the dominant theory that draws peoples attention away from the true murky background of 9/11.

I will repeat again, the real conspiracy is the fact that these 9/11 Muslims had ties with our intel orgs.

Now did our pet Muslims - used by the USA via proxies to fight the Russians and Serbs and Chinese and Indians - go rogue and double cross us? Or were they doing what elements within our power structure wanted?

Maybe a little of both?

That is the question - not how the buildings fell down - which is self evident.

All coverups regarding 9/11 has had to do with erasing ties that linked America and al-Qaeda - especially into Bosnia-Kosovo-Chechnya.

The 9/11 cell was mostly composed of CIA supported jihadi veterans of the Bosnian Muslim jihadi army and vets of Chechnya.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Destro (#27)

Yes of course.

Have you seen any of the excellent 9/11 videos made recently?

They explain with high school physics how the buildings fell at the rate of free fall and that this only happens in a demolition.

They also show the squibs (the explosives going off under each falling floor) that precede that fall.

They also interviewed some of the surviving tenants of the building who describe some of the odd goings on before 9/11.

They also replay the sound of some powerful explosions that precede the fall of each tower.

-----------------------------------------

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: YertleTurtle (#36)

And if you're so smart how do you explain the free fall speed at which these buildings fell?

I'm been involved in construction since the day I was born, and have seen many buildings fall. There was nothing out of the ordinary at the speed they fell. They also -- all of them -- fall into their own "footprint."

This is why you never see articles by those involved in demolition support these goofy theories.

From every article I have read you are the only one in the construction industry who believes this.

There was something VERY extraordinary about the speed they fell. Free fall is ONLY achieved by demolition.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Red Jones (#38)

1) I don't agree with your assessment of the MSM. the MSM is a dishonest propaganda tool IMHO.

2) Don't under-estimate also, that war seems to be the big goal, instigating a wider war seems likely to be part of the real goal. the people who set US policy are not incompetent, they are doing precisely and exactly what they desire.

1) True, but I see the 9-11 factor being too far out there for them to run with. It seems that despite the attention this gets, it is still a small % that really ""honestly"" think anyone in power here had anything to do with it. The MSM, by ignoring it for the most part, are perpetuating the fallacy.

2) Again me thinks you over estimate their abilities and powers. If that was their goal, the event would have been over long ago and another in operation.

There were no traces of a republic, as Iraq was a kingdom from 1932 until 1958 when a Republic was declared but a series of strongmen dictators actually ran the nation with Saddam being the latest. The median age of Iraq is less than 20, while 40% are less than 14. There is little or no memory of anything but Saddam. The error as I see it, was trying to set up a Democracy. We should have told the UN "cleanup on isle 5" and left. Of course that would not have worked because they had failed to already solve the Iran mess. This group was just not capable of the 9-11 inside job. By that I mean being able to pull it off and not leaving so much evidence that it would be a slam dunk.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-16   12:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Destro (#27)

Do you too believe that the buildings pancaked on top of each other; yet managed to fall at the rate of free fall?

So since the floors were around the steel center core, why isn't the core still standing?

The pancake theory doesn't hold water regarding the center core and no one who tries to hold that theory can ever explain the center core not still standing. But demolition explains everything.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:14:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Critter (#40)

Yup, those 1000+ foot tall towers are falling all the time. Yup, by the hundreds. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

just those pesky airplanes

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-16   12:15:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: aristeides, *Balkans* (#43)

If they had assistance from people working inside the buildings, I don't see how that could have happened without assistance from inside the government.

Rephrase that sentence. It is badly composed.

As for: And just how did they manage to time their attack to be simultaneous with the air defense exercises going on that morning?

Three possibilities:

1) The Americans were tipped off on the plot without the 9/11 cell knowing they were being monitored and the American authorities decided to let the plot go forward and monitor it under the guise of this air defense exercise.

2) The 9/11 cell had allies within the govt.

3) Coincidence.

I don't know.

I am convinced that the 9/11 cell was part of a wide group of jihadis the USA used in her black operations around the world though at that time they were concentrated in Bosnia and Kosovo and Chechnya.

What I don't know for certain is if al-Qaeda was in bed with the USA at that time - or half in bed in some areas and half on its own in others or went rogue fully just before 9/11 - just around the same time the USA was shutting down jihadi operations in the Balkans and Chechnya.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:22:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Destro (#44)

I don't know where to start with this, but I'll give it a try. Is your name at LP Yukon or BeAChooser?

I beleive in the official planes hit the building theory.

So you believe the buildings were easy to take down? So why is it impossible for some well placed charges to have done the same job?

Why do you guys assume that they needed an additional building collapse to make the day more horrible?

Simply watching the reactions when planes hit, compared to reactions when buildings fell, tells me that the collapses had MUCH more of an impact on the public at large.

It was a columnless structure - supported by a core and the outer skin. Thie made for quick construction and an open floor space. So it would be a miracle of the building could stand up with such gashes in its superstructure.

That is blatantly false. They were designed to stand despite a catastrophic loss to much more of the structure. You are BeAChooser, aren't you?

But the govt loves people going nuts over this because this becomes the dominant theory that draws peoples attention away from the true murky background of 9/11.

It doesn't draw away from the murky background, it helps shine light on it.

I will repeat again, the real conspiracy is the fact that these 9/11 Muslims had ties with our intel orgs.

The 9/11 Muslims, if they exist, were commanded by our intel.

Or were they doing what elements within our power structure wanted?

Yes, they were acting as ordered, if they existed at all.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-10-16   12:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin, It Is A Republic (#48) (Edited)

Do you too believe that the buildings pancaked on top of each other; yet managed to fall at the rate of free fall?

So since the floors were around the steel center core, why isn't the core still standing?

The freefall rate is one man's work based on his own assumptions - a man not involved in the construction or demolition industry.

The steel core is what to you? Some super duper adamantium structure? Like one long solid bar of steel that would be left standing like a pipe?

Come on - you are making stuff up as you go along based on cartoon notions of pyhsics. Physics as composed by Bugs Bunny.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Critter (#51)

Is your name at LP Yukon or BeAChooser?

No - it's Destro.

It's Destro also on Libertyforum.

It was Destro on Freerepublic as well as Spar and Pericles earlier - they were banned as well.

Google me.

Destro+Freerepublic.

Have fun.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Destro (#52)

The freefall rate is one man's work based on his own assumptions - a man not involved in the construction nore demolition industry.

That is incorrect. Many have produced video and calculation to prove this.

The steel core is what to you? Some super duper adamantium structure? Like one long solid bar of steel that would be left standing like a pipe?

Hardly. You really have not studied any of the proof about the demolition of 9/11 have you?

No, I don't make stuff up. I have done a lot of reading about what others have spent a great deal of their education and time studying and proving.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/210406runattack.htm

The official explanation is laughable (in the words of Andreas Von Bülow):

Former Helmut Schmidt cabinet member, 25-year German Parliamentarian and global intelligence expert Andreas Von Bülow says that the 9/11 attack was run by the highest levels of the US intelligence apparatus using WTC Building 7 as a command bunker which was later demolished in order to destroy the crime scene.

But you prefer to believe Lucky Larry and George Bush. Not much anyone can say to you really.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   12:32:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Critter (#51)

Simply watching the reactions when planes hit, compared to reactions when buildings fell, tells me that the collapses had MUCH more of an impact on the public at large.

Wow - the govt sure has some awesome psychic powers - because if I was in the meeting and told the plan would be to have planes hit the tower to create a terror effect to cow the people I would not even think you needed even more horror to carry such a task out! I mean I could see the presenter telling the panel - 'but wait, there's more!'

It stretches not only credibility but Occam's Therum.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:35:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Destro (#55)

Wow - the govt sure has some awesome psychic powers - because if I was in the meeting and told the plan would be to have planes hit the tower to create a terror effect to cow the people I would not even think you needed even more horror to carry such a task out! I mean I could see the presenter telling the panel - 'but wait, there's more!'

Not psychic really. It just so happened that there were numerous other reasons to take out those buildings. It became a matter of convenience I think. Get rid of the albatros, and seriously shock the American public at the same time.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-10-16   12:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Destro (#55)

It stretches not only credibility but Occam's Therum.

What does Occam Theorum tell you about Flight 800 or the Kennedy assasination?

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-10-16   12:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Critter, AGAviator (#51)

You are BeAChooser, aren't you?

I shudder at your powers of deduction. If you get such things wrong how can I trust any insight you may have?

19. To: BeAChooser, AGAviator (#18)

BeAChooser will accept that there is an Iraqi civil war when they come out with the commemorative Iraqi Civil War chess set.

Destro posted on 2006-08-03 16:43:10 ET http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=153281&Disp=19#C19

See also:

Old Fud, Badeye, BeAChooser (#39)

I outlined in detail why the WMD went to Syria story is a fabrication held on to for whatever reason by a certain faction.

Destro posted on 2006-07-31 15:00:11 ET @ http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=152737&Disp=43#C43

79. To: BeAChooser

AND I STILL DON'T SUPPORT WHAT THE IDF IS GOING TO LEBANON.

Destro posted on 2006-08-03 16:20:25 ET @ http://www.libertypost.org/cgi- bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=153320&Disp=79#C79

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:50:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin (#54)

http://prisonplanet.com is a joke.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Critter, It Is A Republic (#56)

It just so happened that there were numerous other reasons to take out those buildings. It became a matter of convenience I think. Get rid of the albatros, and seriously shock the American public at the same time.

WOW! Who knew govt could be so efficient - get the terror effect and get some badly needed demolition work all in one! I mean they are so confident that they can plan to stage two catastrophic events without a hitch!!

Please.....

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   12:55:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: It Is A Republic (#47)

I read that Iraq had a democracy from 1933 to mid-1950's. when the english finally left Iraq in 1932 or 1933 after they killed so many Iraqis including the use of chemical weapons (WW1 style warfare) they did set up a democracy. and it worked for 2 decades. then when the strong-men took over Iraq in mid- 1950's the US took Saddam Hussein's clique and made them the rulers through covert CIA activity. The US has been against democracy all along in Iraq. and the Iraqis had a history of making elections actually work prior to US involvement.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-16   12:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Destro (#41)

Or were they doing what elements within our power structure wanted?

of course we're all speculating, because we don't know exactly & precisely what happened.

but I'd say this above is more like it. all the muslim terrorists did was get on the planes as directed and behave in a suspicious manner prior to the event so that they could be blamed later. all the hard work was carried out by a covert activities of the clique that rules us.

they're very good at what they do. we're being terrorized all right, the clique that rules is terrorizing us. to stampede us politically to where they want, to justify the wars they want, the police state they want, etc.

it is a time of great trouble. and we need to seek shelter from the one who made us.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-10-16   13:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Red Jones (#61)

That may/probably is true but only 3% of the country is over 64 or over so there are only a few that could even remember those days and most of those would have been childhood memories. It was officially a kingdom from 1932 to 1958 when a Republic was declared. Remember North Koreas' official name is "The Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea", but is neither, as I suspect Iraq was not a real republic. Shoot, some say we really aren't either.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-16   13:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: It Is A Republic (#29)

the suspense novel, The Guns of Dallas, that features a confessed hitman revealing the perfect scenario for the murder of JFK

Ahh, I thought this was the fictional scenario to which they were referring.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   13:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Destro, Its a republic, yertle turtle (#31)

So you're try to convince the readership that the al qaida dun it is plausible.

There are so many points that have been refuted to date that your time consuming and illogical arguments out you as a shill floating trial balloon explanations. I don't buy your acts.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   13:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: It Is A Republic (#47)

I see the 9-11 factor being too far out there for them to run with.

It threatens the agendas of the people who want the globalists plan to work. These people own MSM. They are thwarted by the internet.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   13:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: It Is A Republic (#49)

just those pesky airplanes

Physically impossible.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   13:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Destro (#52)

The freefall rate is one man's work based on his own assumptions - a man not involved in the construction or demolition industry.

Blatantly false. The time has been proven by numerous researchers. Professor Steven Jones is a respected physicist and his research has been peer-reviewed.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   13:37:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Destro (#31)

it is deadly serious accusation against the govt

Yes it is.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   13:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Destro (#59)

http://prisonplanet.com is a joke.

I'll believe Alex Jones over Lucky Larry Silverstein any day of the week.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   14:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: angle (#68)

Professor Steven Jones is a respected physicist and his research has been peer-reviewed.

With no experience in demolition or construction or engineering.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   14:11:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: angle (#69)

it is deadly serious accusation against the govt

Yes it is.

So when will you rise up and target the regime? I am for wiping out America from stem to stern - scattering her seed - salting her earth if the above scenario is true.

Hell, I am ready to do that right now for what America did in Bosnia and Kosovo.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   14:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: robin (#70)

Alex Jones is a joke.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   14:14:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: angle (#68)

Professor Steven Jones is a respected physicist and his research has been peer-reviewed.

Name the peers - dare ya.

The paper has been the center of controversy both for its content and its claims to scientific rigour. Engineers have dismissed the controlled demolition hypothesis with reference to the consensus that has formed in the engineering community about the collapses.[19][20] Jones's early critics included members of BYU's engineering faculty[21] and shortly after he made his views public, the BYU College of Physical and Mathematical Sciences and the faculty of structural engineering issued statements in which they distanced themselves from Jones' research. They noted that Jones' "hypotheses and interpretations of evidence were being questioned by scholars and practitioners", and expressed doubts about whether they had been "submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review."[22]

While Jones has always maintained that the paper was peer-reviewed prior to publication, doubts about this remain. On Thursday, September 7, 2006, Jones removed his paper from BYU's website at the request of administrators and was placed on paid leave.

htt p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_E._Jones#WTC_collapse_controversy

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-16   14:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Destro (#73)

Alex Jones is a joke.

And in what way do you find him a joke? Examples please.

http://home.debitel.net/user/andreas.bunkahle/defaulte.htm

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040801130351466

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-16   15:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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