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Title: Goldi on Women's Suffrage
Source: ElPee
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... rt.cgi?ArtNum=162468&Disp=5#C4
Published: Oct 16, 2006
Author: Goldi-Lox
Post Date: 2006-10-16 21:50:48 by Nostalgia
Keywords: None
Views: 1293
Comments: 142

4. To: High Hopes (#0)

Women led the opposition, with seven in 10 saying they oppose the war. Twenty-eight percent say they support it, which is the lowest support among women in any CNN poll taken since the invasion more than three years ago.

Women voting is a mistake.

Women are emotional, changeable, and notoriously unstable because of hormone flux.

They usually want to talk talk talk talk a situation over, under, around, and to death. LONG after the time for action.

And action, even when the right thing to do, is the LAST thing they want, and will try to stop it after it starts.

I'm a woman, and I know this is true.

I'd give up my vote in a minute if they took it away from all other women as well. We just don't have what it takes to be "rulers" and "deciders". Those roles require cooler heads and harder hearts.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-16 17:54:48 ET Reply Trace

Poster Comment:

Oy Vey

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  

Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 65.

#17. To: Nostalgia (#0)

I'm a woman, and I know this is true.

She needs to get laid more than once in the last 10 years.

angle  posted on  2006-10-16   22:30:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

She needs to get laid more than once in the last 10 years.

we should all kick in and buy buckeroo a plane ticket to maryland.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-10-16   22:37:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

US troops 'winning friends in Iraq'

Why does Buck post these there at LP? Then he makes a show that he hates the piece and that he is, "...not a liberal nor a democrat as you claim. Nor am I a "compassionate conservative" or a Republican as yourself" to a bot's bot there.

There are just some things I can't understand about the lad.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-16   23:47:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Why does Buck post these there at LP?

Because I feel like posting that ludicrous crap. I love the torturous methods of enigmas snapping jellyfish's backs ... like yours.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-10-17   0:46:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Actually, it is more the tactic of those conflicted. You are like the guy who says no while shaking your head yes.

As far as torturous goes, I have no problem with your loony thread posting there. And as far as insults go, yours' amuse me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-17   0:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You are like the guy who says no while shaking your head yes.

You are very confused. I have maintained my perspectives upon the various HOT political topics forever. You know that, too. Of course, you won't produce any links worthy of merit to actually contradict me, either. All you can do is say what you believe which is an outright lie.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-10-17   0:59:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"All you can do is say what you believe which is an outright lie.

Believe? I didn't say I believed anything. I noted an interesting manner in which you seem to court conflict.

You spoke so glowingly and compassionately about Goofy-Lox being a Mama protecting her creation, LP. Then you post an article she would agree with and post back patting denials that that is how you feel about the war.

So, are you empathetic with her and trying to contribute in ways she likes, or hacking at her? You seem to have some conflict and I merely inquire regarding this.

#9. To: Coral Snake (#5)

CS - "Goldi is just another JimRob."

Rubbish. Shes struggling. Shes seeing a change in the political climate; shes renewed her forum with a re-fresh of tech and sees new forum members pouncing in more than ever.

Shes a mother hen wanting none other than to protect the forum. Nothing wrong with that .... but, the strain is showing.

buckeroo posted on 2006-05-04 2:17:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-17   1:08:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I rarely perform the gang pings that you elude to. The article I posted was not intended for Goldie or anyone in particular. I simply stated my opinion by ripping it up which I have always performed. In effect, it was intended for EVERYONE including yourself whom is making a BIG_DEAL out of it.

Ever since I have been at LP ( since 2002-3 ) I have been against GW Bush's Iraqi invasion. EVERYONE knows it, to include EVERYONE on 4um but yourself.

Get a life, pal. You are losing yourself in delusion.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-10-17   1:15:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"I rarely perform the gang pings that you elude to."

How special of you.

"Ever since I have been at LP ( since 2002-3 ) I have been against GW Bush's Iraqi invasion. EVERYONE knows it, to include EVERYONE on 4um but yourself."

You are conflicted. When I showed you the contradiction inherent to your call to murder a man who acted in accordance with his conscious and refused to go back to take part in what he had come to realize is an illegal and immoral conflict you went ballistic and avoided any further discussion on the topic.

He acted in accordance with the Geneva Accords that superseded his oath of enlistment. And you reacted by going nutz.

So, what is it Buck? An illegal and immoral conflict people should display good moral judgment and refuse to take part in? Should the Geneva Convention that calls upon people who would say, "I was only following orders" to remember they have higher responsibilities, some of which call for them to disobey illegal orders be taken seriously? Or what?

No, you are conflicted, that is obvious. And you have a Madonna/Whore relationship with Goofy-Lox on top of it.

I only note what I see Buckeroo. I am more impressed by the contradictions I note then by your bluster about your beliefs.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-17   1:25:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When I showed you the contradiction inherent to your call to murder a man who acted in accordance with his conscious and refused to go back to take part in what he had come to realize is an illegal and immoral conflict you went ballistic and avoided any further discussion on the topic.

The man contradicted his own oath. In the REAL world, we don't get to sit around and act like pansies protected by the tooth-fairy. We stand tall and confront our own basis of reality. We maintain our honor by ensuring that our own oath is actually worth something besides an at-ta-boy.

The decision to join the military is totally voluntary in the US. And its a serious matter. The later decision to abandon his oath was, as well. But, it jeopardized others within his own unit. It could have cost others their lives.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-10-17   1:37:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The man contradicted his own oath.

One cannot be honor bound to commit immoral acts. Few who took that oath ever anticipated the evil of these blood soaked neocons.

No oath can be invoked to obscure the fact that the killing of non combatants is murder. No order to do so can be lawfully enforced.

And, the logical place for an honest man in a corrupt system IS IN JAIL!

Did you disagree with the Nuremberg findings that "I WAS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS" was not an excuse?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-17   2:36:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

"And, the logical place for an honest man in a corrupt system IS IN JAIL!"

Well said, great post.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-17   7:12:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Well said, great post.

Thank you.

Actually, you said it better than I could.

I believe that many Vietnam era vets feel the same and would have the courage to refuse and the morals to understand why.

But, sadly, the military is now the JOB CORPS, and as Jefferson said, "Literacy is not a luxury, it is a moral condition."

As the standards for enlistment fall ever lower we are arming up less educated (and less moral) individuals. It's no coincidence that for the most part the principled refuseniks are officers, and the AWOLers are just scared kids who don't want to get their brains shot partially away and end up drooling in playpens.

The former understand the moral bankruptcy of this bloody imperialist folly, the latter just know that it isn't for the preservation of the Merken Way.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-17   9:43:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I had a decision to make in those Vietnam war days. Do I go to the Moratorium Day demonstration against the war, then lie to the school where I had been. Going to a demonstration was not an authorized absence, and it was made clear to us in a special announcement by our vice principal.

I decided to go ahead and say why I was absent. I decided I was right to stand and be counted against this evil war. I decided not to let them pervert my convictions by making me get a parental note saying I was elsewhere authorized as an absence.

I was suspended for four days. Two who also did as I did were thrown off the student council for following their principles and exercising good ethical behavior and not lying about going to a demonstration forbidden only because it conflicted with the school administration's political views.

We then had a sit-down strike the next day that paralyzed the school. Others and I were suspended for two weeks missing final exams for the school year. We had been promised re-reinstatement and a nullifying of the four day suspensions if we assuaged to requests to end the strike.

I was thrown off the National Honor Society for, "grade problems and showing lack of commitment toward proper community and peer leadership." They even made a big deal about getting the pin back, (which I still have) trying to get my new school in Eugene, Oregon to watch for it if I wore it to seize it.

It was not a move that added building blocks to a well padded resume. But I did the right thing. I learned early on that if you go against the wrong political corrosive flow, you will be made to pay and pay dearly.

It put the fire in my belly I have to this day against this sort of ideological bullying. I won a special court martial my first enlistment accusing me of flipping the flag off during the National Anthem.

I decided that this was so revoltingly and patently false and after a purpose as painting me as unAmerican for my political views of which I was very outspoken, I decided that if I were indeed to be convicted of what I would never do, I would ask for the longest sentence possible as a protest and demonstration of my will not to be bowed for my views.

I learned how to be a good citizen with a discriminating and inquisitive mind by rejecting the fetishes that would tempt me to do otherwise. And if they ever, ever start rounding people up a la Nazi Germany for the 'wrong views,' I am going to make them pay as dearly as I humanly can for doing so.

That is not a promise, that is a blood vow.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-17   10:14:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

you do have a most interesting history, Mike. i was so, so unaware of all this back then and, really, up until the last 5 yrs or so.

christine  posted on  2006-10-17 10:27:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I decided to go ahead and say why I was absent. I decided I was right to stand and be counted against this evil war. I decided not to let them pervert my convictions by making me get a parental note saying I was elsewhere authorized as an absence.

I was suspended for four days. Two who also did as I did were thrown off the student council for following their principles and exercising good ethical behavior and not lying about going to a demonstration forbidden only because it conflicted with the school administration's political views.

We then had a sit-down strike the next day that paralyzed the school. Others and I were suspended for two weeks missing final exams for the school year. We had been promised re-reinstatement and a nullifying of the four day suspensions if we assuaged to requests to end the strike.

I was thrown off the National Honor Society for, "grade problems and showing lack of commitment toward proper community and peer leadership." They even made a big deal about getting the pin back, (which I still have) trying to get my new school in Eugene, Oregon to watch for it if I wore it to seize it.

It was not a move that added building blocks to a well padded resume. But I did the right thing. I learned early on that if you go against the wrong political corrosive flow, you will be made to pay and pay dearly.

"The best students all pledge Omega, something that will look good on YOUR permanent record, Chip."__Greg Marmalard

I wouldn't worry to much about it.

Corporate America is looking for people who are innovative and with .....relaxed moral standards.

They expect you to job hunt using their WATS line and to Zerox your Rolodex when you leave.

In other words, corporate America is a whore house and they won't look down on your youthful idealism too harshly. (just don't testify before congress against them or they'll send some goons to slip an icepick in your ear)

You may consider working for someone with a code of ethics. The Medellin Cartel, for instance.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-17 10:33:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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