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Title: White House spends your money to oppose Nevada marijuana initiative
Source: Marijuana Policy Project
URL Source: http://www.mpp.org
Published: Oct 17, 2006
Author: Rob Kampia
Post Date: 2006-10-17 01:55:51 by Neil McIver
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Dear Neil McIver:

White House Drug Czar John Walters visited Las Vegas yesterday to hand out taxpayer dollars to local Nevada organizations that are willing to oppose the Marijuana Policy Project's ballot initiative to end marijuana prohibition in the state. MPP's initiative will be on the November 7 ballot.

MPP's Nevada campaign committee ripped into him hard, airing a TV ad attacking the drug czar's interference in a state election. Please watch the ad at http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/home/commercials and then -- if you think it's as outrageous as I do that your tax dollars are funding groups that oppose MPP's initiative -- please fight back by donating to the campaign at http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M720675687853968236342365&af=y today.

If passed by Nevada voters on November 7, MPP's initiative would regulate marijuana similarly to alcohol.

Our campaign staffers confronted the drug czar everywhere he went yesterday. At 6:40 a.m., Walters appeared on a local NBC TV station ... and our campaign manager, Neal Levine, refuted him on the same station a few minutes later. (Visit http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/home/video#drugczar to watch both interviews.) Walters -- who had refused to participate in a debate-style format -- ducked out the back of the station to avoid meeting Neal. But Walters couldn't hide, because when he appeared on the talk radio show "State of Nevada" a short while later, one of the three opposing phone calls he received was from Neal.

Walters couldn't escape MPP all day long. When he arrived to speak at the Police Supervisors and Managers Association at 10:00 a.m., 25 of our protesters were there to greet him. And the protesters swelled to 50 when he arrived at the Las Vegas Chamber of Commerce at noon. His motorcade was forced to pass between two crowds of our supporters holding signs and chanting, "Czar, go home! Leave Nevada alone!"

The confrontations were covered by major TV networks in the state yesterday, as well as in the Las Vegas Review-Journal -- and the story even went national, with coverage in the Washington Times and elsewhere. Visit http://www.regulatemarijuana.org/home/news to see some of the highlights.

With congressional auditors calling for the drug czar's budget to be slashed, and members of Congress demanding that he be fired for mismanaging his office, surely Walters has better things to do with his time than to spend taxpayer money interfering in Nevada's election.

Nevada has even asked him to stay away before, but he just won't stop interfering. In 2003, then-Nevada Attorney General Brian Sandoval (R) criticized Walters' interference with a 2002 marijuana initiative in the state. "It is unfortunate that a representative of the federal government substantially intervened in a matter that was clearly a State of Nevada issue," Sandoval wrote in an opinion. "The excessive federal intervention that was exhibited in this instance is particularly disturbing because it sought to influence the outcome of a Nevada election."

But Walters has a long history of interfering with MPP's ballot initiatives in the weeks before elections. And now he's handing out your tax money to groups that will help him. Won't you please stand up to him by using your dollars to vote for what you believe in? Visit http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M720676157853968236342365&af=y to donate today.

There are only 25 days left until Election Day. Thank you for anything you can donate at http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M720676167853968236342365&af=y to help us fight back.

Sincerely,

Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.

P.S. As I've mentioned in previous alerts, a major philanthropist has committed to match the first $3.5 million that MPP can raise from the rest of the planet in 2006. This means that your donation at http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?ID=M720675907853968236342365&af=y today will be doubled. Subscribe to *Marijuana Policy Project*

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#1. To: Neil McIver, IndieTX, Jethro Tull (#0)

We had a bunch of drug busts here today.

The FBI came way out here, to this area of 2200 people and arrested 13 people who sell marijuana. Murkowski our governer (but not for much longer) is very determinded to wipe out marijuana from Alaska, even though it's the alcohol that makes people crazy and do bad things. I can't believe how this place, so far away, not even connected to the highway system is turning into a police state.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-17   2:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Diana, christine, Zipporah, lodwick, Neil McIver, IndieTX, Jethro Tull (#1)

The FBI came way out here, to this area of 2200 people and arrested 13 people who sell marijuana. Murkowski our governer (but not for much longer) is very determinded to wipe out marijuana from Alaska, even though it's the alcohol that makes people crazy and do bad things. I can't believe how this place, so far away, not even connected to the highway system is turning into a police state

Well then I have some cheerful information for you.

The enforcement of the VOLSTEAD ACT (the enabling criminal statute for Prohibition) was at its all time worst immediately before repeal. (Eliot Ness and THE UNTOUCHABLES are made out as heroes even today, but, they were zealots who rightfully lie in forgotten graves today. Just as the made-for-TV-movies attempt to make heroes of the govt agents who murdered Gordon Kahl, the Branch Davidians and others, so does the govt and their dutiful friendlies in Hollywood try to make THE UNTOUCHABLES seem like heroes.)

Politicians back then were no more inclined to admit error than they are now, and many of the same politicos who passed the 18th amendment also passed the 21st, and now we have two permanent reminders in the constitution of their folly.

Now, the history books will not tell the people this but, the main reason that politicians repealed Prohibition was that juries refused to convict for minor alcohol related offenses.

When zealous prosecutors got up and vilified some poor slob for selling half pints to his neighbors, co-workers and friends, and the state worshipers tried to make these victims sound like agents of the Devil, well, every juror had an aunt or granny who took a little nip, and they wisely took the football of criminal sanctions away from the govt.

It required no coordinated movement when the time came. It just happened, and the govt became frightened that jurors would get in the habit of overturning bad law at the jury level, and that is something we aren't supposed to know that we have the power to do!

But, it was a jury in Connecticut that ended the fugitive slaves laws by refusing to convict, and it will be juries that end the unconstitutional enforcement of the income tax and the marijuana prohibition laws.

So, make sure you're registered to be selected for jury duty, and, if you get the chance it only takes ONE VOTE to hang a jury in a criminal trial.

All you have to say is, "I think that police officer lied." Don't ever say "I disagree with the law" or, the judge will remove you and put an alternate in your place.

FOOTNOTE: In the last UNTOUCHABLES film starring Kevin Costner they said that Al Capone was convicted because he failed to file income tax returns, and this was a lie. He did file, and it was his own returns that were used to weave the noose. Had he not filed they would never have been able to imprison him because he would not have committed felonies when he falsely reported income, which was easily proven false by the bank statements showing him to be a millionaire.

Failure to file was a misdemeanor, but willul evasion (filing and lying) was and is a felony.

So, the movie THE UNTOUCHABLES is propaganda on more than one issue of great concern to Big Brother.

Whan Al Capone asked his lawyer how he could have avoided this he was told that he could have done so by not filing his returns. That lawyer (the same one who told him that he was "required to file") disappeared and was never seen again.

So you see, lawyers will put nooses around their own clients' necks to protect the income tax because 50% of America's lawyers are tax lawyers, and the IRS is the best friend they ever had. Marijuana laws also make lots of work for the swindlers.

I love you. Don't make me point you out because you know who you are!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-17   3:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Diana, *LEAP* (#1)

reefer madness ping



**LEAP**

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-17   10:37:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Neil McIver (#0)

White House spends your money to oppose Nevada marijuana initiative

Goddamn.

That just pisses me off.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-17   10:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Neil McIver (#0)

This is insane. Why on earth do people care if someone wants to smoke a damn plant in their own home????????

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-17   10:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: mehitable, Neil McIver, robin (#5)

Why on earth do people care if someone wants to smoke a damn plant in their own home????????

Follow the money. The Liqour industry (of which I am part of) powerfully, but quietly lobbies against the loosing of MJ laws.

Big pharma does the same. Nothing in it for them if folks start effctively treating some of their problems with a plant they can grow in their backyard.

And to this mix a powerful drug enforcement establishment, you got a wedge of the very real shadow government that really does govnern this country.

tom007  posted on  2006-10-17   17:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HOUNDDAWG, IndieTX, Neil McIver, christine (#2)

They continued busting people today, and since yesterday it turns out at least 25 people have been arrested, most for having marijuana plants in their house.

One of my neighbor's employees was among them, he just got arrested a few hours ago for having some plants.

Why in the world would the FBI want to conduct such a special raid way out to a tiny town in remote Alaska where there are hardly any people, and it's very expensive to fly to? Flying within the state is extremely costly and you have to go to Anchorage first before flying on to any of the remote, far-away villages.

Marijuana is a plant made by God or nature, and using it doesn't make people go crazy like alcohol does. I can't believe the govenment is putting so much time, effort and expense into busting individuals for owning some of it way the heck out here where there is not even a road system.

Local police and state troopers are involved in the operation as well, I've just never heard of anything like this happening and I've been here over 7 years.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-18   1:26:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tom007 (#7)

ping to above.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-18   1:27:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Diana (#7)

What's the general sentiment in this town over these arrests?

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-18   2:03:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Diana (#7)

It makes one wonder how the gestapo stormtroopers got "probable cause"...but then again, I don't think you need that to kick in doors in this PoliceState anymore. AmeriKa is dead.



**LEAP**

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-18   7:44:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Diana (#7)

Why in the world would the FBI want to conduct such a special raid way out to a tiny town in remote Alaska where there are hardly any people, and it's very expensive to fly to?

Why aren't these folks sent to the front line in Iraq?

tom007  posted on  2006-10-18   7:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Diana, christine, Zipporah, lodwick, Neil McIver, IndieTX, Jethro Tull (#7)

Why in the world would the FBI want to conduct such a special raid way out to a tiny town in remote Alaska where there are hardly any people, and it's very expensive to fly to?

You may have read my post about Virginia where I was born, and how the good people of Tidewater were all too cheerfully serving as collaborators during The War Of Nawthern (if you'll pardon the goddam expression, Ma'am) Aggression.

Well, Alaska is also a strategic federal asset because of radar installations, training areas, oil and gas fields, timber and the proximity to RussiaStan.

And, your governor is a committed (read: sold out) drug warrior, and the good people of your state are making no hardship plea for medical marijuana. They seem to believe that they should be able to enjoy the plant for reasons which the govt will never approve, and unlike states which seem to be enjoying peace for their medical marijuana co-ops, the very idea that Alaskans would defy the feds on this issue and your governor despises individual liberty are reasons for this raid.

I've said many times that as long as there is one blue suited hypocrite of the Nixon School alive and in power, the hippies will never get the satisfaction of decriminalization, even if hemp wasn't a nightmare threat to petro chemical, textile and pulp indistries.

I recall reading excerpts from the memoirs of a woman who claims she was part of the govt's mind control experiments, and she was a sex slave for the ewe-gno-hoos. She claims that she was given permission to use any drug EXCEPT marijuana.

Now, the multiple uses for hemp are not only a serious threat to some very powerful and influential industries (my state of DE is home to the Duponts, who were arguably the most energetic opponents of hemp) but, it is my belief that raising imperial mercenary armies in a nation that permits the personal use of marijuana would be impossible.

Marijuana is a peace plant. I know that you understand.

Many violent alcoholics who beat their families and crash their cars into flaming wrecks wouldn't do either if they had access to beautful, glistening buds of carefully cultivated reefa.

And, the FOX NEWS cheerleaders would find that their blood thirsty, reactionary, flag waving moron-bigot audience would be considerably reduced in size if this nation allowed marijuana cultivation.

The alcohol industry is politically well connected, and even the rehab industry would oppose legalization for reasons that are all too clear. EXAMPLE: Suppose I could push a button and make all human suffering in the US disappear. Who would stop me?

Why, the social workers (MSWs) and other social engineers (NAACP, NEA) would take up a collection to hire a hitman, and my ass would be history. Alcohol and it's social problems are fundamental to the nanny govt busybody industry, and, imgine going to college all those years only to be put out of work by me and my big red button?

And, ask yourself this: Where did Jack Daniels and other "legit" distillaries go during Prohibition? I mean, we read and saw accounts of liquor agents busting up stills and distribution methods owned by *Nawthern* (if you'll pardon the goddam expression, Ma'am) mobsters, but, did you ever hear of a bust of the well connected producers, the same who re-emerged after repeal virtually unscathed?

Well, even during the dark days of Prohibtion those manufacturers continued to produce and they did so with immunity, if the absence of any criminal indictments is any indication.

They paid then and they pay now.

FOOTNOTE: Elliot Ness ended his career as the public safety director for Cleveland, OH and he left under a cloud of corruption. His hands were not as clean as govt historians and their Hollywood friendlies would like us to believe. And, don't ever expect him to be portrayed as an enemy of liberty so dangerous that a constitutional amendment was necessary to negate him as a threat. But, that is the truth even if we aren't permitted to dialogue in any forum that govt controls about that historical fact.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-18   11:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: HOUNDDAWG (#12)

I agree with much of what you say, however, about MJ being a "peace" drug. Don't they smoke a lot of weed in Jamaica, and aren't they pretty violent there?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-18   11:21:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mehitable (#13)

Well, I should have qualified it by saying that it applies to most European Caucasians who don't have a genetic predisposition to violence.

Many of African descent apparently do, despite the firestorm of hatred that is set off by the mere suggestion that this is true.

In fact, many black folks would murder me for saying that they are genetically predisposed to violence.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-18   11:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Neil McIver (#9)

What's the general sentiment in this town over these arrests?

A few people are glad about it, mostly the very few bot types here, but most people are outraged because it's always been an unwritten rule to let the marijuana people alone, and lots of people here have injuries and/or illnesses that lead to chronic pain and they use it for that. The population out here is older than average. It's been tolerated in Alaska for many years, but perhaps the reason Murkowski hates it so is because he gets money from the alcohol and pharma lobbies as was mentioned above. His excuse is that marijuana leads to harder drugs which everyone knows is BS.

I'm wondering if they will go at it again today and look for more people to arrest.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-18   13:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tom007 (#11)

Why aren't these folks sent to the front line in Iraq?

They already got a bunch of Eskimos who just finished boot camp in Mississippi and are now on their way to Iraq. Eskimos are not fighters by nature and they don't tolerate heat. Neocons don't take things like that into consideration. They even have girls going over to fight which they think is great as it shows our diversity or something.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-18   14:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: HOUNDDAWG, mehitable (#12)

Great post, sad but true what you said.

And it really is a peaceful drug, though I don't know if it's strong enough to be a drug as it's not even addictive.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-18   14:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#14)

In fact, many black folks would murder me for saying that they are genetically predisposed to violence.

And if they're Black Muslims, you don't stand a dawg's change ;)

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-18   14:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Diana (#17)

Right.

All I know is, it's great and some assholes have decided that while they and their buddies can do whatever they please, the rest of us are to suffer jackboots on our necks.

I despise those prohibitionist hypocrites.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-18   16:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mehitable (#18)

In fact, many black folks would murder me for saying that they are genetically predisposed to violence.

And if they're Black Muslims, you don't stand a dawg's change ;)

The 14 senseless killings of whites by blacks known as the ZEBRA Murders were committed by Black Muslims.

One of the victims was the son of Nelson T. "Pete" Shields. Shields was a co-founder of HANDGUN CONTROL, INC.

Instead of channeling his anger toward the black racists who killed his son (something he certainly didn't have the courage to do) he campaigned against guns.

Shields lived here in Delaware, and he had (he died several years ago) a then hard to obtain concealed weapons permit.

The reason? He needed to protect himself against the angry people he was attempting to disarm!

This is the best example of anti gunner hypocrisy, but there are others. Rosie travels with an armed body goon, as does Ted Kennedy and Charles "Chuckles" Schumer.

I actually opposed Shields toe to toe on the floor of the DE House years ago when he spoke in favor of a state "assault weapons" (sic) ban.

We won, and the state rep who sponsored the bill (Steve Taylor) was defeated the next election.

My state is one of the few Mid Atlantic Northeastern states whose gun laws have improved in recent years, and I like to believe that I contributed in some small way.

We were never subject to Brady-mandated waiting periods because we passed insta-check before Brady became law and that automatically exempted us. We have no permit to purchase requirements and we have the closest thing to shall issue we can get without the law actually reading that. (The state police just couldn't stomach those two words in the law, and they have a great deal of influence here)

But, we're going to get "shall issue" this time around because after years of unfettered permit issuance there have been no problems.

In short, law abiding concealed permit holders don't cause crime.

FOOTNOTE: Jim and Sarah Brady also moved here to Delaware. One can only wonder why they didn't move to NY, NJ or MD where "their kind" of gun laws are in effect.

I'm guessing because those states have too much crime.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-18   16:36:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: HOUNDDAWG, Neil McIver, christine, tom007 (#19)

Today there was more information, it was an operation 7 months in the making, and involved the FBI, DEA, BATF, the local police, the state troopers, and the army national guard. They've been taking people away in chains, flying them supposedly to Anchorage.

I talked to one guy whose brother was arrested, they haven't heard from him at all, no phone call, nothing, and can't track him down.

The people arrested have family and friends and jobs here, and it's still not over as they plan on arresting more people.

Diana  posted on  2006-10-19   7:52:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Diana (#21)

The shadow government is scared white (if you'll pardon the expression) that Americans will wake up and take our freedom back.

The cancerous growth of the police state requires this prohibition just to remind us who is boss and to keep these non producers busy.

Just as the end of Prohibition fostered the National Firearms Act of 1934 as a make work program for soon to be unemployed liquor agents, so are these agencies afraid that we will take away their guns and put the bulk of them back into honest, productive labor.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-19   10:19:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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