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Title: Al-Cokeda/AIG/Marsh/Kroll a.k.a. ; Who Did 9/11
Source: http://www.8thestate.com
URL Source: http://www.8thestate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18
Published: Jun 29, 2006
Author: Dr De Bug
Post Date: 2006-10-18 05:53:13 by Kamala
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Al-Cokeda/AIG/Marsh/Kroll a.k.a. Who Did 9/11

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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:57 am

Al-Cokeda/AIG/Marsh/Kroll a.k.a. Who Did 9/11


Quote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987

Who Killed John O'Neill

An Updated MIHOP

Who did 9/11? A question we all want to know answers to.

Meet the CIA of the 21st century. Privatized, independent and hidden from view.

AIG as Money Laundering Inc.

Marsh Crisis Consultancy as Terrorism Inc with Osama bin Laden played by Paul Bremer

Kroll as the privatized CIA Inc.

al-Cokeda as the Drug dealers in the Flight school who are later called terrorists in the OCT

Learn how they all work together.

Learn how they make fortunes on 9/11 with insider trading.

Learn how sophisticated psyops and black ops is.

Learn what the government and the OCTers don't want you to know

Video + large discussion: (it is better if you watch the video first)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x97987

Journal:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug

Who needs a plane?

Quote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668 al-Cokeda

Iran-Contra II

How the 9/11 flight schools were being used for narcotics trafficing to finance black operations like 9/11 which was covered up by labeling the drug dealers, terrorists. The drug import just continued after 9/11 as if nothing happened and were involved in the biggest cocaine shipment ever...

Mohammed Atta's girlfriend

Learn about drug planes being used also for illegal CIA rendition, the (hidden) owner of the flight school committing insider trading on 9/11, scams with non-existing companies which miraculously produce DC-9s, and much more...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x93668

The video Ty Rauber made it and it has one actor playing all the parts -a conspiracy theorist, a paranoid "they're after us" type, an OCTer, a philospher and they are all discussing 911-it's kind of like this forum. He ties Kroll, CIA, AIG together, speculated that Kroll is a sort of privatized CIA, running on drug money but able to do what the CIA can't because they aren't allowed. Some of this relates to the Hopsicker story.

Why are these Kroll types anti terrorism experts; where do they get the information? Then they show how people move between these corporations and CIA . Doesn't spend a lot of time on the hows and why's of the actual day, more about drugs insurance companies/ CIA and the piece de resistance -what Al Qaeda really is and what Mohammed Atta's function was, his opinion will make a lot of sense as to Atta's behavior.

This is all for the same video , I gave different links in case some didn't work:

http://www.wkjo.com

http://whokilledjohnoneill.com

Movie Downloads:

http://www.wkjo.com/downloads.html

Mirrors:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935

http://www.archive.org/details/Who_Killed_John_ONeill

Ownership:

American International Group = Maurice "Hank" Greenberg Marsh & McLennan = Jeffrey Greenberg Ace = Evan Greenberg (only playing a minor role thus far)

Kroll always had AIG as shareholder and is currently part of Marsh.

Possible teams for 9/11:

October 11, 2001 Marsh established specialized terrorism team called Marsh Crisis Consultancy The following teams were added to it: Control Risks Group, a British ex-SAS team and Versar, a bio-terrorism and homeland defense team. The same group could have known each other from 9/11

Kroll has military team in their company and merged with Armor Holdings on August 23rd thus adding Defence Systems Limited, another Private Military Corporation, to their operations, the top ex-KGB team called Alpha Firm was earlier acquired by Defence Systems Limited.

That makes at least four teams which could have been used on 9/11. Additional teams from the military could have been used as well.

They had the means to do this.

Marsh had full control on WTC1 where they occupied all floors.

Marsh had the top floor of the WTC2 "impact" and could have worked their way down, however the main occupant was Fuji bank with whom AIG did a lot of work and also featured in Iran-Contra.

WTC7 contained a CIA office and Kroll and AIG are very closely related to the CIA and it is very likely that Kroll is the privatized version of the CIA

The Pentagon was of course under their own control.

They had the opportunity to do this.

AIG/Kroll/Marsh are closely connected to the Bush administration and to Henry Kissinger.

AIG/Kroll/Marsh are also closely related to the Intelligence Community.

AIG/Kroll/Marsh capitalized on 9/11 and it was good for their business.

AIG was laundering drug money for al-Cokeda.

AIG was involved in the oil and gas line to Afghanistan

There is reason to believe that the Taliban either cut back on the drug trade or that they went into business for themselves. Either way the flow of heroin from Afghanistan was drastically limited.

Greenberg and Adnan Khashoggi had a business relation and benefited for the narcotics from Afghanistan and had interest in the oil and gas line as well

The Greenberg family and the Bush family are partners in fraud.

They had motive to do this.

Objectives:

There are main objectives to 9/11 and additional subgoals persuded that day. The main objectives are:

1. Enabling the war in Afghanistan

2. Bush administration gets an enormous popularity gain

3. Enabling Homeland security

4. Oil and drugs in Afghanistan

5. Massive insurance fraud

6. The missing trillions of the Pentagon

7. Added later: War in Iraq (not part of the original plan. See below )

Sub goals:

1. Making Silverstream software owned by Marsh the standard risk software by inviting all experts over the whole world to Windows on the World and eliminating competition like AON Corporation while keeping partners like Dun & Bradstreet.

2. Cantor Fitzgerald/eSpeed was the #1 company in electronic bond- trading and suddenly Kyoto Mo takes over. Sandler O'Neill, a major investor in eSpeed lost 67 of 180 employees as well.

3. Some of the companies who survived were in some sort of problems which gets solved.

4. Massive destruction of evidence in the Enron scandal, the price inflation fraud for Silverstream, the WorldCom scandal many other scandals.

9/11 and Iran-Contra There are many similarities between 9/11 and Iran-Contra. One could even say that the same blue print was used and the terror event added as a quick justification of their goals

Objectives of Iran-Contra:

1. October Surprise: President Ronald Reagan and Vice President George H.W. Bush

2. Guerrilla warfare in Central and South America

3. A war between Iraq and Iran

Objectives of 9/11:

1. Madame Butterfly and vote spoilage: President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney

2. A war with Afghanistan

3. Guerrilla warfare in Venezuela and Lebanon?

Bonuses (W. tries to double H.W.)

4. A war with Iraq Quote:

Not in the original plan, however on September 12, 2001, George W. Bush told Richard A. Clarke: "Go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way" http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_A._Clarke This is the probably reason why Germany, France and Canada bailed out, because they had given approval for Afghanistan and at least Germany played a part in the Venice scheme.

5. If you can rig one election, might as well take the next one also. 6. Iran? (option or coming soon...)

Why the Pentagon had to be included as well Minstrel Boy wrote:

They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy. She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me. I can't help it if I'm lucky. - Bob Dylan

(...) At least among those with a mind for such things, it's fairly well- remembered that on September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld made the shocking announcement that the Pentagon "couldn't track" $2.3 trillion of its transactions. "Iroquois" observes, "What's interesting to me is that he made his press release on a Monday. In DC, I always see bad news given on a Friday, usually late in the afternoon on Friday. The exception, of course, would be when someone happens to know that there is a far bigger story coming out."

And we know that Flight 77, allegedly piloted by an incompetent, made an aerobatic, spiralling descent over Washington, effecting a 270-degree turn to strike the Pentagon from a western approach at ground level. The side struck was the only one with an exterior wall hardened against attack, and was relatively empty while renovation continued. (...)

http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/06/flight-of-capital.html

WTC building insurance and ownership What were the 3 companies who insured the WTC?

AIG, Marsh and ACE. All run by Greenbergs at the time.

They then sold stakes of the original contract to their competition, a process called reinsuring. Once the towers came down, the reinsurers got caught holding the bag.

Who mortgaged the WTC? The Blackstone Group, headed by Peter J. Peterson, current head of the CFR. The Blackstone Group bought into Kroll in 1993 at the same time as AIG took majority control. Henry Kissenger sits on the board of the Blackstone Group.

On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of the WTC following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Silverstein owned all the buildings. Later he wanted to collect twice on $3.6 billion of policies because it were two seperate events. Only ACE, XL Reach - strategic partners of AIG and currently owned by AIG - included a WilProp in their clauses, so Silverstein "only" got $5 billion.

Larry Silverstein

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

- World Trade Center lease holder, Larry Silverstein, commenting on the collapse of Building 7 in the PBS documentary "America Rebuilds" that aired in September of 2002.

Or watch a video clip of them here:

http://pfabf.com/uploads/larrysayspulli.wmv

http://www.wtc7.net/pullit.html

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Losers and Survivors


There are some strange losers and survivors in WTC. It makes sense that the lower floors survived, but the top floors have some anomalies as well.

Losers:

Windows on the World (Risk meeting and only a stupid restaurant)

Hotel and Restaurant Employees International (stupid restaurant)

Cantor Fitzgerald Securities + eSpeed (competitor)

Alliance Consulting Group (unknown yet)

CARR Futures (risk management)

Sandler O'Neill and Partners (investor in eSpeed)

AON Corporation (risk management)

Keefe, Bruyette and Woods, Inc. (unknown)

Euro Brokers (risk competitor. the four survivors even got the advice not to go down)

Survivors:

American Bureau of Shipping

Dun & Bradstreet (their buddy in risk)

Banco LatinoAmericano de Exportaciones Sud America (unk.)

Lehman Brothers (inside trading)

Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (84/3000, however 37 were stupid cops so that leaves 47 including the executive director Neil D. Levin)

ZimAmerican Israeli Shipping Company (decided to move out one week earlier)

Bank of America (inside trading)

Deutsche Bank (inside trading)

Raytheon Company (only lost four on the "planes")

Fuji Bank (doesn't make sense, since they were right on the impact area)

Morgan Stanley (inside trading)

Seabury and Smith (part of Marsh)

Kyoto Mo (competitor of Cantor Fitzgerald)

Fireman's Fund Insurance Company (used to be owned by Willy Hilliard, owner of Huffman Aviation)

Marsh did loose 295 people (=20%). So why were they so bloody in their own company. They did a lot of inside trading, so they knew...

Silverstream Fraud Class Action


Quote:

According to a Press Release dated June 20, 2001, a securities fraud class action was filed against Silverstream Software, Inc. The lawsuit asserts claims under Sections 11, 12 and 15 of the Securities Act of 1933 and Sections 10(b) and 20(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and Rule 10b-5 promulgated by the SEC thereunder and seeks to recover damages. Any member of the class may move the Court to be named lead plaintiff. If you wish to serve as lead plaintiff, you must move the Court no later than August 20, 2001.

The complaint alleges that Silverstream Software, Inc., David R. Skok, its Chairman, David A. Litwack, its President and CEO, and Craig A. Dynes, its CFO, violated the federal securities laws by issuing and selling Silverstream Software common stock pursuant to the IPO and secondary offering without disclosing to investors that at least two of the lead underwriters in the IPO and secondary offering had solicited and received excessive and undisclosed commissions from certain investors. In exchange for the excessive commissions, the complaint alleges, lead underwriters Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., Inc. and FleetBoston Robertson Stephens, Inc. allocated Silverstream shares to customers at the IPO price of $16.00 per share.

To receive the allocations (i.e., the ability to purchase shares) at $16.00, the defendant lead underwriters' brokerage customers had to agree to purchase additional shares in the aftermarket at progressively higher prices. The requirement that customers make additional purchases at progressively higher prices as the price of Silverstream stock rocketed upward (a practice known on Wall Street as laddering) was intended to (and did) drive Silverstream's share price up to artificially high levels.

This artificial price inflation, the complaint alleges, enabled both the lead underwriters and their customers to reap enormous profits by buying Silverstream stock at the $16.00 IPO price and then selling it later for a profit at inflated aftermarket prices, which rose as high as $32.50 during its first day of trading. The complaint further alleges that Silverstream was able to price the secondary offering of Silverstream stock at an artificially high $114.00 per share due to the continued effects of the foregoing violations. Rather than allowing their customers to keep their profits from the IPO, the complaint alleges, the defendant lead underwriters required their customers to kick back some of their profits in the form of secret commissions. These secret commission payments were sometimes calculated after the fact based on how much profit each investor had made from his or her IPO stock allocation.

The complaint further alleges that defendants violated the Securities Act of 1933 because the Prospectuses distributed to investors and the Registration Statements filed with the SEC in order to gain regulatory approval for the Silverstream offerings contained material misstatements regarding the commissions that the underwriters would derive from the IPO and secondary offering and failed to disclose the additional commissions and laddering scheme discussed above.

http://securities.stanford.edu/1018/SSSW01/

Morgan Stanley, eh?

Morgan Stanley

Morgan Stanley employed 3700 people in WTC2 just below the impact area of the second plane and in WTC5. Morgan Stanley began evacuating its offices soon after the plane hit the first building.(1) They only suffered 10* casualties, while only four people of Euro Brokers managed to get out of the building. (2). There is a communication between a fire fighter and the director of Morgan Stanley where he says that the 78th floor (above Morgan Stanley) is full of dead bodies. (3) Also it is strange that their security officer Rick Rescorla made a whole plan about what to do if an airplane struck the building. (4)

Morgan Stanley was also involved in the pre-9/11 inside trading. Their own stock traded at 27x times the norm. (5)

* Some sources say 7.

Sources:

1. http://www.nd.edu/~ndmag/w2001-02/9-11survive.html

2. http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2001/12/19/usat-escape.htm

3. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/firefighter-tape-excerpts.htm

4. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482544/plotsummary

5. http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/HEN204B.html

Buttonwood International Group. Company doesn't exist


Buttonwood International Group calls itself the Global Custodian who claim to have nearly $50-trillion assets in custody.

According to their own website, Buttonwood offers password-enabled access to Global Custodians–and only to Global Custodians. Buttonwood’s impressive A-List includes: (1)

ABN AMRO Mellon Global Securities Service

The Bank of New York

Brown Brothers Harriman & Co.

BNP Paribas ("Saddam Hussein’s favourite bank")

Citibank, N.A.

Deutsche Bank

Investors Bank & Trust

J.P. Morgan

Mellon Trust

The Northern Trust Company

Royal Trust

State Street Corporation

Bold means: 9/11 inside traders Italic means: offices in WTC

It seems that they have the biggest banks in the world as their customers.

The strange part is that this company says that it is located at One World Trade Center, Suite 7967 on August 20, 2001 (1), however on their next update on December 21, 2001 it is listed at 14 Wall Street, 20th Floor (2).

Note the WTC photo icon below goes to a page dated 9/11 with these sad and scary words, "September 11, 2001: Buttonwood International’s office support staff was located on the 79th floor of One World Trade Center. As of today, we are unable to confirm that all personnel are safely evacuated." But the main page of December 2001 fails to state how many, or if any, Buttonwood employees died in World Trade Center 1. Curiously, Buttonwood a self-touted management consultant for Global Custodians seems to have ignored the catastrophic events of 9/11 and its impact on its $40 (now $50) trillion clients in the "global securities industry". (3)

They are not listed on any list of tenants and start to sound like a vapor or virtual company. And then there is the testimony of Richard Grove:

Richard Grove wrote:

Marsh was laundering money through Buttonwood International Group (4)

Sources:

1. http://web.archive.org/web/20010820234206/http://www.buttonwood.com/index.html

2. http://web.archive.org/web/20011225055235/http://www.buttonwood.com/index.html

3. http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover061705.htm

4. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/340627.shtml

Is this an empty front company?


The whole story in the form of a Wiki

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Who_Killed_John_ONeill


In 1986 Paul Bremer was appointed Ambassador-at-Large for Counterterrorism and started to develop all kinds of plans with possible terrorists events. Even though the plans appear to have been created to prevent terrorism there is also the likelyhood that they were created for false flag terrorist events. Paul Bremer has extensive connections to the neo-conversatives, Henry Kissinger and in 1999 he becomes chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism and also joins the board of directors at Marsh Inc.

He describes his time at National Commission on Terrorism as follows in an interview at the Heritage foundation: "catastrophic terrorism ... in the event of a catastrophic attack ... tens of thousands of casualties, where the American people are going to be screaming for a response, that a President is going to want to consider using the military in some fashion ... the example we use is Pearl Harbor ..." Since Paul Bremer has made many similar remarks, there is reason to assume that he was one of the chief architects of 9/11.

Jerome Hauer worked in 1999 at the SAIC's Center for Counterterrorism Technology and Analysis. One of his task was the design of the Office of Emergency Management, an emergency command center, which Rudy Giuliani wanted to have build on the 23rd floor of 7 World Trade Center (WTC7). Even though everybody around Rudy Giuliani and Jerome Hauer ridiculed the "bunker" on the 23rd floor, the decision was made to build it.

Since this office has never been used for its intented purpose and a different command center was established and used at Pier 92, there is reason to believe that the Office of Emergency Management was used to coordinate the World Trade Center attacks since it could withstand anything and had a perfect view on both the towers and the area around World Trade Center. There is no better place and safer place to coordinate World Trade Center than the Office of Emergency Management.

Later Jerome Hauer started to work for Kroll, a company closely linked to Marsh and at present a subsidiary. Kroll has been named at least twice as a CIA front organization or a privatized CIA.

The most vital part in the 9/11 plan was getting the correct government. There are very close links between the Greenberg family (AIG, Kroll, Marsh etc.) and the Bush family and they have participated in companies like Harken Energy, Texas Rangers and Trilateral Investments among others. The Greenbergs had their own law firm called Greenberg-Traurig, currently independent but probably still has very close links.

Greenberg-Traurig represents Governor Jeb Bush and has close links to Antonin Scalia, Jack Abramoff and they represented George W. Bush in the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida election vote recount which was vital in stopping the recount.

Adnan Khashoggi is believed to be the hidden owner of Huffman Aviation and playing a major role behind the scenes in al-Cokeda, the drug running part of the intelligence community to finance black operations. Florida election official Theresa LePore was a private stewardess of Khashoggi’s private plane. Theresa LePore is the mastermind behind the butterfly ballot which presumably lead to thousands of votes from Al Gore to go to Pat Buchanan.

ChoicePoint, the company which purged the Democratic posters from the voter role, wanted to merge with Kroll, however negotiations failed for unknown reasons. They were used in 9/11 as well for the identification of the victims and were at the scene almost instantly.

One of the major goals of 9/11 was enabling the war in Afghanistan. The planning of the war had started in 2000 and was related to both an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan and a diminished heroin flow. Officially the restrict opium trade was blamed on the Taliban's strict interpretation of Islamic Shari. There are reasons to believe that Afghanistan didn't supply al-Cokeda any more and wanted to go into business for themselves. The Greenberg family and Adnan Khashoggi were also involved in both the oil and gas line in Afghanistan and the heroin from Afghanistan.

The United States started secret negotiations in 2001 with Afghanistan to ensure the flow of heroin and for the development of an oil and gas pipeline through Afghanistan. The secret negotiations failed. In the summer of 2001 officials threatened war against Afghanistan and in July the BBC reported that if military action would take place, it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

A lot of mergers and last moment preparations were taken place in New York. On July 24, 2001, 6 weeks prior to 9/11 Silverstein took control of the lease of all the WTC buildings following the Port Authority decision on April 26. Marvin Pierce Bush makes sure that he is no longer connected to the security of the World Trade Center.

Kroll merged with Armor Holdings thus adding two more specialized teams to their company: Defence Systems Limited, a British Private Military Contractor who protects the British Queen among others and Alpha Firm, the former top-KGB team during the cold war. With that merger they had at least four teams in their company and probably the best teams as well. AIG international reinsured the WTC buildings and made sure that their competitors got most of the reinsurance.

Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI at the time, is more or less forced out of his position and the same is done with John O'Neill, the former top anti-terrorist specialist, who gets offered a job at the World Trade Center security.

A lot of companies move into the World Trade Center who have some scandals and some other companies move out of the World Trade Center at the last moment.

Three weeks prior to 9/11 inside trading with put-options starts and is mainly focused on American Airlines, United Airlines, Marsh and numerous insurance agencies and companies with offices in the World Trade Center. From Thursday before 9/11 it reaches historic levels and is a global event.

No investigation into inside trading is made even though it is solid evidence for 9/11 preknowledge. A Canadian list of 38 companies is published and lists many companies inside the World Trade Center, defense contractors, almost all major airlines and several other companies with connections to either AIG or Citigroup (WTC7 was mainly occupied by Salomon Smith Barney who is a part of Citigroup. Deutsche Bank was the biggest inside trader of the all and that is maybe because the US CEO, "Buzzy" Krongard, is also the #3 man at the CIA, it would have been the intelligence community itself who used their own bank because they would never say who was doing it.

A wire specialist is discovered on the 84th floor of WTC2 - who is not listed on any official tenant listing and never mentions that they were there - and there are about 200 electric engineers working in the World Trade Center around the time. The Pentagon construction was performed by AMEC. Both AMEC and Tully Construction play a major role in the clean up of Ground Zero and both have specialized Controlled Demolition companies. No links to AIG have been discovered upto now.

Several war games were being played during 9/11 including one by Mr. Fulton and his CIA team who were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building.

The main team at WTC would have comprised of Kroll and Marsh and since those companies have a privatized CIA inside, all kinds of spooks could have been added to the mix. The same could be true for Raytheon which also has an overlap, however EVERYTHING was probably privatized, so no government agencies, since that would endanger deniability.

9/11 started at WTC1, because that was on Marsh's own territory and if that failed, it could be called a weird accident and that's it. Rudy Giulani and all the others establish an emergency center at Pier 92.

In Rudy's own words for the 9/11 Commission: "The reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center."

The next attacks were at WTC2 and the Pentagon since both were more difficult. Because the "impacts" on both WTC1 and WTC2 were in control of the Greenberg family especially WTC1 which was under full control by Marsh, there is the question whether planes are necessary. So I prefer the no-plane option, however they could have installed a plane magnet or a homing beacon at their offices to ensure a perfect hit (personally I think that there never were any planes). The 767/757 scenario is very unlike. Either there were no planes or it were Global Hawk-like missile with a specific homing beacon in WTC/ Pentagon.

WTC1 and WTC2 were destroyed with a Controlled Demolition to hide any evidence and after the whole game had been played WTC7 was pulled also because it contained the command center for the attacks.

Rudi Giulani and his team immediately set out to ship off all the debris without any investigation. The Bush administration immediately blaims al-Qaeda for the attacks and wants to implicate Saddam Hussein as well for another war in Iraq. The attack is blamed on the drug dealers working for their own organizations since they were Arabs and could be used as Muslim extremists. The Bush administration had no intention of investigating 9/11 since any investigation could turn up wrong doing.

The bin Laden family and all the other Saudis were the only people allowed to fly out of the United States.

Edwin Meese and Paul Bremer co-chaired the Heritage Foundation's Homeland Security Task Force, which created a blueprint for the Department of Homeland Security and a company associated with Paul Bremer offering privatized Homeland Security already registered the required domain prior to 9/11. The Bush administration immediately approves of their plans.

The United States, with support from the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, the Northern Alliance and many more nations, invaded Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 as part of its War on Terra campaign. It should be noted that it is completely impossible to launch a full scale war with extremely detailed plans on such a short notice. In 2002, Opium production was back to a pre-war level of 3,400 tons and the construction of the oil and gas pipeline had started.

Because of tremendous pressure to launch an investigation into 9/11, a commission headed by Henry Kissinger was proposed, however nobody trusts a guy for whom a case for Crimes against Humanity exists and who can't leave the United States anymore.

A Kean Commission was used instead with close links to Condi Rice, Warren Buffett and Fiduciary Trust (one of the companies in WTC2). The commission piles lie upon lie and Dr. David Ray Griffin has found 115 lies. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DAV504A.html demonstrates with mathematical techniques that the official acccount on 9/11 is simply not true based on a limited of lies. Applying David Griffin's research would result in a probability of correctness which is astronomically small.

On March 20, 2003 a war against Iraq was launched based on the 9/11 attacks without any evidence of wrong doing. Paul Bremer later became the Ambassador of Iraq and under his reign the insurgency started to spin out of control.

This story is based on the investigation into 9/11 called Who Killed John O'Neill. Further reading and references are available on the thread below. This summary is about showing a plausible explanation of 9/11 based on the stories and facts discovered thus far.

Messageboard post: (three parts + one part for al-Cokeda): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=97987

Journal: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug

Wiki view: http://tinyurl.com/jqqjv (tiny urled because of the ' in the URL)


Flight analysis

Flight 11: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100019

Flight 175: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=100035

Flight 77: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97937

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=98050

http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77.html

Flight 93: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99991

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97987&mesg_id=99987

Project Atlantis

This project is purely speculative, however there are some serpertine indications that there was a side project by the Jason Project during 9/11 and could involve the following project. This is not factial - like the other research - and it'll be trendemenous hard to find the necessary missing pieces, however maybe it is not entirely Science Fiction:

http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=110&topic_id=361 _________________ http://journals.democraticunderground.com/DrDebug Subscribe to *9-11*

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