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Title: Memory Hole: How a threat was implied with my ban from FreeRepublic (When Destro was known as Spar)
Source: libertyforum.org
URL Source: http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla ... s_members&Number=133934&part=1
Published: Jun 21, 2002
Author: Spar AKA Destro AKA Pericles
Post Date: 2006-10-18 15:58:51 by Destro
Ping List: *Balkans*     Subscribe to *Balkans*
Keywords: Freerepublic, Spar, Destro
Views: 416
Comments: 28

Spar was Threatened on http://FreeRepublic.com [ Post 133934 ]

Category: Miscellaneous Issues and Topics Topic: Member Opinions & Questions Synopsis: Spar's Password was changed into a threat word Source: Published: June 21, 2002 Author: Spar For Education and Discussion Only. Not for Commercial Use.

Many of you may know me as "Spar" from FreeRepublic. I like my alter-ego "Pericles" would post on how the 9/11 terrorists were men involved with the Bosnian/Kosovo and Chechen jihad efforts that were championed by the Clinton and neo con Bush administrations before and somewhat after 9/11.

I was able to post a huge amount of articles from the news proving the links of the Bosnian, Kosovo and Chechen jihad with American forign policy of the last decade. Read the article posted here and on Free republic titled BIN LADEN GATE @ http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bce56bc0279.htm and all the links proving a connection to al-Qaeda and US Foreign Policy in the Balkans (if it is still up and not deleted).

Then a few weeks ago, I could not log on and saw that my password somehow changed on me. I was still registered as a FreeRepublic member so I sent to see what my new password was. It turned out that my password was changed to a word that if it is not a random generated word it is a threat and when i complained it was not changed until I went public with it on that forum (that post was quickly deleted). My old password was changed to "wakeup"--and then changed again --what that is now I don't know so I can't resign on again. I tried again to enter under other names but those passwords were changed on me as well.

Kind of spooky, eh?

Booga, booga folks!

Poster Comment:

Keeping track of my old article - if you guys don't know - Pericles and Spar were my posting names as well. Then I went back in at Freerepublic as Destro - my longest running post name until that account was banned as well. Subscribe to *Balkans*

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#1. To: swarthyguy, aristiedes, burkeman1 (#0)

Not so long ago.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   16:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

what years were you Spar? i think i remember seeing your name. i left voluntarily in '03.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-18   16:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Warning emails were delivered asking one not to get too argumentative or factual in questioning things, around the winter 02/03 timeframe.

What was funny was that the emails disappeared from one's in box subsequently.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-10-18   16:19:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I honestly don't remember.

I was Pericles (I picked that name as a rib on then candidate Bush who claimed he was reading about Pericles and other 'Grecians').

Then I was Spar.

Then Destro.

Then a heck of a few other names for a while but quit after they purged good posters over the immigration debate. I do not bother anymore - Freerepublicans are 'dead enders'.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   16:20:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

They never told me why I needed to 'wake up'.

I think I was the only case of a password being changed into a word that was designed to get message/warning to you.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   16:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No offense- but I began to lose interest in individual purge stories from that site about 2 years ago. I have seen it all- the posters gone for not being obsequious enough to dear leader Bush, the posters who crossed a favorered mod or groups of harpies, the posters who fixated on the owners and the fundaraising and got banned . . . Frankly- this drama bores me. Freaker land is a GOP adjunct site - its owners sellouts and frauds- and its posting content utterly worthless and trite. To those wishing to delve behind the curtain of government that site offers absolutely nothing except to serve as a weather vane for Beltway staged GOP propaganda.

In short- I don't give a crap about Freaker land in the slightest. I haven't been there on purpose in over a year.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-18   16:34:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Warning emails were delivered asking one not to get too argumentative or factual in questioning things, around the winter 02/03 timeframe.

I was still on FR at that time, and I never got such warning e-mails.

I wonder if at that time I was not sufficiently argumentative or questioning to warrant receiving them.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-18   16:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No offense- but I began to lose interest in individual purge stories from that site about 2 years ago.

The purge does not bother me - its why I was asked to 'wake up'? Who wanted me to 'wake up'? Did they get word from some in the WH to have me 'purged' (Like they would care but I did get some funny phone calls just before and after)?

Remember, I am yy password was changed to 'wakeup' but I was not banned. I became banned when I went public with that.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   16:38:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

"wakeup"

Once in while FR gets it right. You do need to wake up, but not for the reasons they imply.

Thinking that three towers came tumbling down at near freefall speed due solely to planes and fire shows that you are indeed in a coma of sorts.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-18   16:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I do remember it was a thread about Iraki involvement vs Saudi culpability and the nature of the two societies.

It read as if it was laser guided, not a mass mailing. Kinda like, yes, we know that your points are valid, but please stop posting them.

Appy poligies, didn't want to make it sound like those, who in Nixon's era, weren't put on the list. Apparently it was a loss of status not to have been targeted by Nixon among the dinner crowd in Georgetown.

Pray you will never know, the hell where youth and laughter go - Siegfried Sassoon. Ypres, Autumn 1914.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-10-18   16:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The purge does not bother me - its why I was asked to 'wake up'? Who wanted me to 'wake up'? Did they get word from some in the WH to have me 'purged'?

Isn't that a little grandiose? The White House? They booted you because you were raising questions about 9/11 and to Freakers- that is "leftism" or "Anti Americans". They didn't need word from some asshat clown in the White House. They self censor and self police themselves to stay in accordance with the parameters of acceptable DC debate on 9/11- which is blaming Clinton- and the Dems blaming Bush for "dropping the ball". The same as our media does.

The bueaty of the two party fraud is that is is self perpetuating and self policing. General tracks are laid down- and the browhshirt ideologues in both parties make sure that the members stay on the tracks- and all quite without central direction.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-18   16:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thinking that three towers came tumbling down at near freefall speed due solely to planes and fire shows that you are indeed in a coma of sorts.

OK, I will bite - at what speed/rate shall such a building fall? Oh, you don't know? But it sounds cool on a website for someone without any knowledge of structural engineering.

If I can use the analogy of a murder victim to the events of 9/11 -

Basically, it comes down to all of us acknowledging a murder took place - with visible gun shot wounds.

I am saying the bullets killed him - the others are saying that he was poisoned as well! And the poison really killed him because the gunshot wounds were not fatal.

So we have all you good folks exploring the poison vs bullets as method of death and ignoring who pulled the trigger.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   17:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Isn't that a little grandiose? The White House?

LOL! I went back and added a line - I was being tongue in cheek about paranoia.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   17:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The title of this post should be "Memory Mole".

Forget this poster Rick, he is a mole.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

Given the scope of the tragedy from last week, I am glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C., that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink."— Christie Todd Whitman - 9/18/2001

Kamala  posted on  2006-10-18   17:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OK, I will bite - at what speed/rate shall such a building fall? Oh, you don't know? But it sounds cool on a website for someone without any knowledge of structural engineering.

I've seen steel I-beams bent and the joints popped apart by a medium-sized tornado. Of course, a 20-ton flying bomb, with thousands of gallons of jet fuel, traveling at over 300 miles an hour, can't do the same, to the degree it would drop a poorly-designed building.Why? Because people who know nothing about demolition or construction say so!

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-18   21:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Why? Because people who know nothing about demolition or construction say so!

Because the building should fall in slow motion - you know like in the disaster movies.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   21:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Forget this poster Rick, he is a mole.

I'll keep that in mind.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-10-18   21:32:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Forget this poster Rick, he is a mole.

I'll keep that in mind.

Gee Fred, we posted back and forth on Freerepublic for a long time - mole indeed.

To: aristeides; Fred Mertz; OKCSubmariner

The connection is to Bosnia as a base and a possible explanation as to why these guys were not blocked (because of their Bosnian Muslim ties). Did Iraq give the money? I can't see as direct evidence for Iraqi involvement beyond maybe money?

38 posted on 06/05/2002 10:25:26 AM PDT by Spar

Consistent message on my part (see my links I posted here) - As you can read, I as Spar am not accepting the assertion by Fred Mertz and aristeides of ties to 9/11 and Iraq!! Man, I was right even then as Spar - my less confrontational character. Do you guys regret saying Iraq was involved in 9/11?

So who is a mole and who is not?

It's finally going mainstream. The NYTs is slow, but this is a significant step forward.

9 posted on 06/04/2002 9:08:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz

Yes, the connection between Iraq and 9/11 is gradually being fleshed out.

35 posted on 06/05/2002 7:13:16 AM PDT by aristeides

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-18   21:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you guys regret saying Iraq was involved in 9/11?

So who is a mole and who is not?

Are you trying to gain friends here?

Fred Mertz and aristeides are big enough to admit when they made a mistake, what about you? Will you admit you are wrong about the WTC towers not being brought down on purpose by elements within our own government? It is a plan as day, saying otherwise really makes you look stupid. So, can you admit you are wrong on this issue?

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-20   0:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But it sounds cool on a website for someone without any knowledge of structural engineering.

What makes you think I have no knowledge of structural engineering? You assume too much.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-20   0:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

To: aristeides; Fred Mertz; OKCSubmariner

The connection is to Bosnia as a base and a possible explanation as to why these guys were not blocked (because of their Bosnian Muslim ties). Did Iraq give the money? I can't see as direct evidence for Iraqi involvement beyond maybe money?

38 posted on 06/05/2002 10:25:26 AM PDT by Spar

yep, Destro, we can accuse you of being many things but not inconsistent.

It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...

christine  posted on  2006-10-20   0:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

OK, I will bite - at what speed/rate shall such a building fall?

None of those buildings should have fallen. The fires were almost out; the heat was nowhere near high enough or evenly spread out enough to cause the building to start to collapse in a symmetrical manner. Even if somehow this miracle of the floors and outer columns falling symmetrically was achieved by the small ONE hour fire then the core columns would still be standing and the floors would have pancaked on top of each other instead of exploding mid-air. You could drop a concrete block from the top of one of the world trade centers and when it hit the ground it would not still not turn to dust. Those floors were exploding into dust immediately in a horizontal line all the way down. It couldn't have happened from the upper floors hitting them, because if it did then the building would have taken much more time to fall. Please do yourself a favor and wakeup.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-20   0:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

The bueaty of the two party fraud is that is is self perpetuating and self policing. General tracks are laid down- and the browhshirt ideologues in both parties make sure that the members stay on the tracks- and all quite without central direction.

The only central direction comes from the main propaganda players, sush as Rove and the RNC with their talking point memos. Boteye would be disappointed if he was left out of the loop. The same could be said for the other half of the duopoly with shills such as Carville and others.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-20   4:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

yep, Destro, we can accuse you of being many things but not inconsistent.

I'm amused. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-20   5:12:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you trying to gain friends here?

My mommy said not to make friends over the internet.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-20   9:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Mertz and aristeides are big enough to admit when they made a mistake, what about you? Will you admit you are wrong

A) I am only joshing them. But they were wrong and I was right - I was called a lot of things like a 'mole' (or an 'Blame America firster' - I love that one) back then too by this Freeper cult mindset which you also share - some of you many not hold Freeper values anymore but you think as dogmatically as they do regardless. What's next 'Troll'?

B) I was right then and I am right now. I was right years, months and weeks before 9/11. Because I was involved in supporting the Serbs who were trying and kill Muslim jihadis and their NATO allies - I and my confederates got lots of background and insider knowledge that we posted on forums like Freerepublic like a mOtherf3cker. If they did not murder Slobo I would be posting my Free Slobo articles.

Sadly, all my earlier Freerepublic posts as 'Pericles' are gone down the memory hole but the 'Spar' posts live on!

Here is my "I told you so, post" (sweet revenge for being banned stating that the 9/11 cell was composed from Bosnia's CIA jihadis). Notice that they won't reveal the names and contents of that UN file? Lucky for me I knew a pro Serb guy who had a relative working at the UN war crimes tribunal.

UN Lawyer Turns Over Hijacker Info

The chief U.N. war crimes prosecutor has turned over information about one of the Sept. 11 hijackers to the United States, France and the Netherlands, the U.N. spokesman said Wednesday.

The war crimes prosecutor, Carla Del Ponte, said last October that information concerning people "with connections to terrorist groups," primarily in Bosnia, was provided to Pierre Prosper, the U.S. ambassador at large for war crimes.

"The office of the prosecutor did in fact have some information in relation to one of the named terrorists said to have been on one of the hijacked aircraft," he said. An electronic version of some of the information was then given to Prosper as well as French and Dutch officials, Eckhard said.

On Wednesday, Eckhard confirmed for the first time that the information included material related to "one of the named terrorists said to have been on one of the hijacked aircraft" on Sept. 11. Eckhard refused to name the hijacker but said the information was also shared with the French and Dutch governments.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-20   9:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You could drop a concrete block from the top of one of the world trade centers and when it hit the ground it would not still not turn to dust.

Really?

Are you telling my now that explosives turned the concrete structures to dust and not the collapse???

That means every single floor would have to have had charges in there to turn it to dust like you just implied.

When you can figure out science from alchemy let me know.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-20   9:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

My mommy said not to make friends over the internet.

I doubt you make any off the Internet either. Your inability to understand basic science is a great handicap for you. Whether you are sincere or not in your display of ignorance here, which I doubt you are, I am through conversing with you.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-20   13:16:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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