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Title: Breaking: Keith Olbermann habeas corpus rant coming up
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Published: Oct 18, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-10-18 20:42:09 by Jethro Tull
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#13. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I just got satellite yesterday, after being without TV, more or less, for about five years. I have been watching Keith on YouTube and other sources for a long time. This was perhaps his best. It was incredibly well-written. After a while, SIR sounded like PUNK. Or ASSWIPE.

Pat Buchanan came on after, and went on a tirade about Bush and his punks. This is why I still have a lot of hope. The real conservatives and the real liberals agree on the basic points...we fight about everything else, but democracy, fair play, the sacredness of the vote, etc. are not debatable to people who really care about the country, not just their bank account and inviolable power. It's time to clear these punks out and let real Republicans and real Democrats get back to fighting about the ways to get where all of us want to go.

Chuckie the Scar, who doesn't seem to have a single real belief, is at least predictably floating with the wind. But the idea of comparing Clinton lying about sex and Bush lying about getting hundreds of thousands of Americans and Iraqis killed and maimed is just SO disingenuous (read: lying mofo who will never admit he was wrong) it makes me sick. This might not be a stomach virus, it may be the realization that the GOP is going to hold onto at least one house of congress, through vicious, constant attack ads.

The Chicago Tribune endorsed my fave candidate, Tammy Duckworth, today. I am not sure of the exact figures, but this might be only the second Dem ever endorsed by the Trib. Maybe even the first. I talked to her last week, and she said she did well in the mini-debate you hold for the Trib editorials staff. That she beat her opponent like a rug is very encouraging. That seat has been Repuke since 1964 or even earlier.

I think this election is mainl about Iraq, but corruption and the lousy economy are closing in fast. I'm voting for a Republican because I detest the corruption in the Dem party in Chicago. I think a LOT of people are going to pull the trigger for that reason. And it will hurt Repukes a lot more than Dems.

But, the GOP is MUCH better at getting people to the polls on the last weekend than Dems are. I know here in a basically blue state, that won't work, and Ohio is going totally blue this time. But other states, like Washington and Missouri and a few others, may still be salvageable for the GOP. They yanked money out of Ohio today, leaving DeWine to twist in the wind, to spend it in Tennessee and New Jersey and other states. Bush raised over a million for the Repukes running against Duckworth and Bean; I think that is money flushed down the toilet. I hope their judgment continues that way.

It is sad that money plays such a big role in politics. They should force TV and other media to set aside a certain percentage for political ads, divvy it up equally, and keep the percentage the same up to the election. And they should also force the ad buyers to abide by certain rules, such as volume and photoshopping. If the ads against Duckworth weren't so hilarious (paid by the RNCC, not her opponent), they'd be evil. They did the same thing TIME did to OJ, darkening her skin, making her look evil. She's part Asian, and they completely ruined her looks. The catch is, most of her future consituents have seen her live and know it's nonsense.

I still hope for a landslide, but the GOP is REAL good at getting their voters out, and convincing them to vote when they are fed up. I'll be sweating Nov. 7, but think it's going to be a disaster for the GOP, and if they manage to hold on to both houses, they're going to pay in two years.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-18   21:43:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: Mekons4 (#13)

After a while, SIR sounded like PUNK. Or ASSWIPE.

Yep...there's an honesty in his rants that I pick up on. I don't think it's an act - he really seems pissed. Tonight was his best.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-18 21:48:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If the ads against Duckworth weren't so hilarious (paid by the RNCC, not her opponent), they'd be evil.

The "opponents"????

Mekons4, wakey, wakey smell the coffee. The "opponents"=the same team.

Duckworth's sponsor - ie. the man whom the bankers and insurance company owners are backing - ie. RAHM EMANUEL - voted for the Militay Commissions Act. Get it??? Rahm Emanuel is bucking for Nancy Pelosi's job. Rahm is an Israeli dual citizen. Rahm is so feared by the Dimwits ( the party you support because you want a Dimwit gov't to implement Universal Health Care not because the Dimwits are more "pro-American")will be pulling Duckworth's strings if she gets elected. Duckworth is Rahm's tool and she will not represent you - she will be beholding to the person who paid for her campaign and who helped catapult her into office and it's not a little foot soldier like you, I'm sorry to say. And I really mean it. You and your family members have health problems and I wish it could be better for you but neither Tammy Duckworth nor the Democrats are the panacea to what ails the body politic.

The Military Commissions Act takes away your and my freedom of speech and freedom of association. The only missing puzzle piece in this big picture of hell is who will be occupying the position of Secty of Defense after the November bi-election. And if Joe Lieberman gets that position, whom Rahm still sees as a good Democrat, fyi, our country is done, it's toast. Chertoff in Security, Negroponte in CIA, Lieberman in Defense, and a Manchurian Canadidate as President. That spells CHECKMATE. No other moves left.

A week ago I was optimistic. But after I read the text of the legislation that has been codified into law forever more ( Grant only temporarily suspended habeas corpus) it is a very sad day indeed for the nation and for all Americans.

Here's the full text transcript to Olbermann's show today with Professor Turley and though I typically view Olbermann ( as I do all talking heads)with great skepticism, he did a decent job on this topic - read it and weep:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15318240/

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-18 23:49:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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