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Title: Breaking: Keith Olbermann habeas corpus rant coming up
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Published: Oct 18, 2006
Author: me
Post Date: 2006-10-18 20:42:09 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 661
Comments: 48

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#10. To: Jethro Tull, Death of Habeas Corpus ...Video Transcript 101706 (#0) (Edited)

HABEAS CORPUS 1789-2006



Here's the MSNBC link .....Death of Habeas Corpus ...Video & Transcript


I'm in favor of this law ... This law means that President Hillary can declare that fat heads like Rush, Hannity, and O'Reilly are enemies of the state, and throw them in prison..... torture them ... and we'll never hear them scream for help.

{Before you go off the deep end ... that was sarcasm}

Lettre de cachet
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In French history, lettres de cachet were letters signed by the king of France, countersigned by one of his ministers, and closed with the royal seal, or cachet. They contained orders directly from the king, often to enforce arbitrary actions and judgements that could not be appealed.
In the case of organized bodies lettres de cachet were issued for the purpose of preventing assembly or to accomplish some other definite act. The provincial estates were convoked in this manner, and it was by a lettre de cachet (in this case, a lettre de jussipri), or by showing in person in a lit de justice, that the king ordered a parlement (a court of justice) to register a law in the teeth of its own refusal to pass it.
The best-known lettres de cachet, however, were penal, by which a subject was sentenced without trial and without an opportunity of defense to imprisonment in a state prison or an ordinary jail, confinement in a convent or a hospital, transportation to the colonies, or expulsion to another part of the realm. The wealthy sometimes bought such lettres to dispose of unwanted individuals.
In this respect, the lettres de cachet were a prominent symbol of the abuses of the ancien régime monarchy, and as such were suppressed during the French Revolution.

George the II our new FRENCH KING

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-18   21:23:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah, all (#10)

This isn't the one that was on 30 mins ago, Zip. It was by far and away his best rant. We are in some deep poop and Olbermann let it all hang out. Screw these dogs. I refuse to shut up, and I'm sure most here feel the same.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-18   21:31:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull, Countdown Special Comment, Death of Habeas Corpus, Your words are lies, Sir. (#11)

Here it is! From 0/18/06

Countdown Special Comment: Death of Habeas Corpus: “Your words are lies, Sir.”

By: John Amato on Wednesday, October 18th, 2006 at 6:30 PM - PDT Submit
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Keith Olbermann has been calling it like it is. His "Special Comments" are indeed special because no other talking head outside of Cafferty is willing to step up to the plate and say what needs to be said on 24/7. "Your words are lies, Sir." They are lies, that imperil us all.' Sounds about right to me.

Video is coming…

Olbermann: And lastly, as promised, a Special Comment tonight on the signing of the Military Commissions Act and the loss of Habeas Corpus.

We have lived as if in a trance. We have lived… as people in fear.

And now — our rights and our freedoms in peril — we slowly awake to learn that we have been afraid… of the wrong thing.

Therefore, tonight, have we truly become, the inheritors of our American legacy. For, on this first full day that the Military Commissions Act is in force, we now face what our ancestors faced, at other times of exaggerated crisis and melodramatic fear-mongering:

And lastly, as promised, a Special Comment tonight on the signing of the Military Commissions Act and the loss of Habeas Corpus.

We have lived as if in a trance.

We have lived… as people in fear.

And now — our rights and our freedoms in peril — we slowly awake to learn that we have been afraid… of the wrong thing.

Therefore, tonight, have we truly become, the inheritors of our American legacy.

For, on this first full day that the Military Commissions Act is in force, we now face what our ancestors faced, at other times of exaggerated crisis and melodramatic fear-mongering:

A government more dangerous to our liberty, than is the enemy it claims to protect us from.

We have been here before — and we have been here before led here — by men better and wiser and nobler than George W. Bush.

We have been here when President John Adams insisted that the Alien and Sedition Acts were necessary to save American lives — only to watch him use those Acts to jail newspaper editors.

American newspaper editors, in American jails, for things they wrote, about America.

We have been here, when President Woodrow Wilson insisted that the Espionage Act was necessary to save American lives — only to watch him use that Act to prosecute 2,000 Americans, especially those he disparaged as "Hyphenated Americans," most of whom were guilty only of advocating peace in a time of war.

American public speakers, in American jails, for things they said, about America.

And we have been here when President Franklin D. Roosevelt insisted that Executive Order 9-0-6-6 was necessary to save American lives — only to watch him use that Order to imprison and pauperize 110-thousand Americans…

While his man-in-charge…

…. General DeWitt, told Congress: "It makes no difference whether he is an American citizen — he is still a Japanese."

n

Wise words.

n

And ironic ones, Mr. Bush.

n

Your own, of course, yesterday, in signing the Military Commissions nAct.

n

You spoke so much more than you know, Sir.

n

Sadly — of course — the distance of history will recognize that the n threat this generation of Americans needed to take seriously… was you.

n

We have a long and painful history of ignoring the prophecy attributed to n Benjamin Franklin that "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase n a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

n

But even within this history, we have not before codified, the poisoning of n Habeas Corpus, that wellspring of protection from which all essential n liberties flow.

n

You, sir, have now befouled that spring.

n

You, sir, have now given us chaos and called it order.

n

You, sir, have now imposed subjugation and called it freedom.

n

For the most vital… the most urgent… the most inescapable of n reasons.

n

And — again, Mr. Bush — all of them, wrong.

n

n

We have handed a blank check drawn against our freedom to a man who has n said it is unacceptable to compare anything this country has ever done, to n anything the terrorists have ever done.

n

We have handed a blank check drawn against our freedom to a man who has n insisted again that "the United States does not torture. It’s against our laws n and it’s against our values" and who has said it with a straight face while n the pictures from Abu Ghraib Prison and the stories of Waterboarding n figuratively fade in and out, around him.

n

We have handed a blank check drawn against our freedom to a man who may n now, if he so decides, declare not merely any non-American citizens "Unlawful n Enemy Combatants" and ship them somewhere — anywhere — but may now, if he so n decides, declare you an "Unlawful Enemy Combatant" and ship you somewhere - n anywhere.

n

And if you think this, hyperbole or hysteria… ask the newspaper editors n when John Adams was President, or the pacifists when Woodrow Wilson was n President, or the Japanese at Manzanar when Franklin Roosevelt was n President.”,1] ); //–>

Wise words.

And ironic ones, Mr. Bush.

Your own, of course, yesterday, in signing the Military Commissions Act.

You spoke so much more than you know, Sir.

Sadly — of course — the distance of history will recognize that the threat this generation of Americans needed to take seriously… was you.

We have a long and painful history of ignoring the prophecy attributed to Benjamin Franklin that "those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

But even within this history, we have not before codified, the poisoning of Habeas Corpus, that wellspring of protection from which all essential liberties flow.

You, sir, have now befouled that spring.

You, sir, have now given us chaos and called it order.

You, sir, have now imposed subjugation and called it freedom.

For the most vital… the most urgent… the most inescapable of reasons.

And — again, Mr. Bush — all of them, wrong.

We have handed a blank check drawn against our freedom to a man who has said it is unacceptable to compare anything this country has ever done, to anything the terrorists have ever done.

We have handed a blank check drawn against our freedom to a man who has insisted again that "the United States does not torture. It's against our laws and it's against our values" and who has said it with a straight face while the pictures from Abu Ghraib Prison and the stories of Waterboarding figuratively fade in and out, around him.

We have handed a blank check drawn against our freedom to a man who may now, if he so decides, declare not merely any non-American citizens "Unlawful Enemy Combatants" and ship them somewhere — anywhere — but may now, if he so decides, declare you an "Unlawful Enemy Combatant" and ship you somewhere - anywhere.

And if you think this, hyperbole or hysteria… ask the newspaper editors when John Adams was President, or the pacifists when Woodrow Wilson was President, or the Japanese at Manzanar when Franklin Roosevelt was President.

n

Not his actions, nor the actions of a ceaseless line of terrorists (real or n imagined), could measure up to what you have wrought.

n

Habeas Corpus? Gone.

n

The Geneva Conventions? Optional.

n

The Moral Force we shined outwards to the world as an eternal beacon, and n inwards at ourselves as an eternal protection? Snuffed out.

n

These things you have done, Mr. Bush… they would be "the beginning of the n end of America."

n

And did it even occur to you once sir — somewhere in amidst those eight n separate, gruesome, intentional, terroristic invocations of the horrors of n 9/11 — that with only a little further shift in this world we now know — n just a touch more repudiation of all of that for which our patriots died n —

n

Did it ever occur to you once, that in just 27 months and two days from now n when you leave office, some irresponsible future President and a "competent n tribunal" of lackeys would be entitled, by the actions of your own hand, to n declare the status of "Unlawful Enemy Combatant" for… and convene a Military n Commission to try… not John Walker Lindh, but George Walker Bush?

n

For the most vital, the most urgent, the most inescapable of reasons.

n

And doubtless, Sir, all of them — as always — wrong.

n

n

Joe Scarborough is next.

n

Good night, and good luck.

nn”,0] ); //–>

Not his actions, nor the actions of a ceaseless line of terrorists (real or imagined), could measure up to what you have wrought.

Habeas Corpus? Gone.

The Geneva Conventions? Optional.

The Moral Force we shined outwards to the world as an eternal beacon, and inwards at ourselves as an eternal protection? Snuffed out.

These things you have done, Mr. Bush… they would be "the beginning of the end of America."

And did it even occur to you once sir — somewhere in amidst those eight separate, gruesome, intentional, terroristic invocations of the horrors of 9/11 — that with only a little further shift in this world we now know — just a touch more repudiation of all of that for which our patriots died —

Did it ever occur to you once, that in just 27 months and two days from now when you leave office, some irresponsible future President and a "competent tribunal" of lackeys would be entitled, by the actions of your own hand, to declare the status of "Unlawful Enemy Combatant" for… and convene a Military Commission to try… not John Walker Lindh, but George Walker Bush?

For the most vital, the most urgent, the most inescapable of reasons.

And doubtless, sir, all of them — as always — wrong.

Joe Scarborough is next.

Good night, and good luck.

Zipporah  posted on  2006-10-18   21:42:38 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Zipporah (#12)

Did it ever occur to you once, that in just 27 months and two days from now n when you leave office, some irresponsible future President and a "competent n tribunal" of lackeys would be entitled, by the actions of your own hand, to n declare the status of "Unlawful Enemy Combatant" for… and convene a Military n Commission to try… not John Walker Lindh, but George Walker Bush?

All I can think is, they have no intention of ever losing another election. If they rig this one, it's time to just stand up and march on Washington and not leave until that little punk gets in a helicopter and heads to Guatamala. I have no idea if those reports of him buying a huge plantation there are true, but in my paranoid moments, I figure he's going to throw a hail mary pass and if he loses, go somewhere where the cops can't get near him.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-18   21:55:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mekons4 (#20)

d not leave until that little punk gets in a helicopter and heads to Guatamala. I

He's bought a 100,000 acres in Paraguay. For real. Prolly where Kenny Lay is getting a suntan as we speak.

tom007  posted on  2006-10-18   21:58:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: tom007 (#21)

Prolly where Kenny Lay is getting a suntan as we speak.

that's what i posted to mehitable yesterday.

christine  posted on  2006-10-18   22:27:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine, robin, zipporah, red jones, indrid cold (#25)

Prolly where Kenny Lay is getting a suntan as we speak.

that's what i posted to mehitable yesterday.

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Better learn Gurrani. I really may go to Paraguay in the next few years. I am a fan of South America. I seem to be off to Australia, the Gold Coast, (Brisbane region)in Febuary for three weeks.

tom007  posted on  2006-10-18   22:52:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: tom007 (#31)

VIDEO: Bush is "A Clear and Present Danger to the Country"

VIDEO: MSNBC Countdown : "RIP Habeas Corpus & the Bill of Rights"

Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-10-18   23:12:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Uncle Bill, Cynicom, Mekons4, Jethro Tull, tom007, All (#32)

as much as i enjoyed the bush bash, i wish Olbermann would also say that congress bears equal responsibility in this rather than acting as if bush did it unilaterally.

christine  posted on  2006-10-18   23:28:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#35)

as much as i enjoyed the bush bash, i wish Olbermann would also say that congress bears equal responsibility in this rather than acting as if bush did it unilaterally.

Ah, now you are checking out the Pied Piper, which is very good.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-18   23:31:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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