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9/11 See other 9/11 Articles Title: What Would It Take? 9/11: a 7-Man Job Wednesday, July 26, 2006 What Would It Take? Just hypothetically, what would it take to convince you that 9/11 was an inside job? I'm not talking real-world here. Just as an exercise. Is there any proof, any piece of evidence, any confession -- no matter how far-fetched or impossible -- which could, just hypothetically, convince you? Confession You might say "sure . . . confession by a high-level insider". If such a confession is the only thing which would convince you, think about this for a second: If you helped to kill 3,000 of your own people, would you admit it? Probably not. That's why most criminal convictions take place in spite of the fact that the defendant adamantly denies that he committed the crime. But there's enough evidence from other witnesses or the crime scene that the judge or jury finds him guilty. Or maybe there is such strong evidence that the defendant had the motive to commit the crime -- because he would benefit handsomely from it -- that he's convicted. You might say that 9/11 is different. If there was a conspiracy that big, someone would have spilled the beans by now. Right? But -- hear me out -- that's not necessarily true. If, hypothetically, of course, 9/11 was an inside job, then it was probably carried out by a group of very disciplined military type folks who know how to carry out an operation and keep their mouths shut. Moreover, these folks would be used to learning information stricly on a need-to-know basis. In other words, they wouldn't even know that they were helping to carry out 9/11; they would just know their one little part of it. Moreover, a very small group of people could have carried out 9/11. And when you think of confessions, you're thinking of small-time criminals. High-level criminals like mob bosses don't go around blabbing to outsiders. And the Nazi leaders didn't really confess their crimes (some did at the Nurenberg trials, but not before). In any event, many witnesses who are high-level officials, and firefighters, police and FBI have come forward to testify against the U.S. government's version of 9/11. So -- if there are other types of evidence -- can you at least consider the possibility that 9/11 might, just possibly, be an inside job even if none of the actual perpetrators have yet confessed? But That's NOT POSSIBLE Of course, it's IMPOSSIBLE that anyone in our government would do something as horrible as 9/11. We know that because we know that we're the good guys, and that our government tries its hardest to protect us. Right? Its like a defendant falsely accused of a crime. The jury should find him innocent, because he's a good guy, and his life, his actions have been those of a basically decent guy. It would be very different if the defendant had previously been found guilty of similar crimes. Obviously, in that case, it would be more likely that the defendant did it this time, too. Right? A good example is Muslim countries and other rotten nations who have terrorized their own people for political gain. If the leaders of one of those countries was accused of a terrorist act, we'd think its possible they did it again. Right? Well, here's the thing. American political leaders have occassionally exaggerated military intelligence for political gain. And, our leaders have in fact sometimes used terrorism in the past. So we can't assume, without looking at the facts of 9/11, that this is not the kind of thing that our leaders would do. What would it Really Take? So what would it really take for you to believe 9/11 was an inside job? Disproof of the official story? Okay, here it is. Proof that the government knew about the pending attacks, but did nothing? Read this and this. Scientific experts saying it? See this. Or . . . Or do you just NOT want to believe it? That's okay. Admit it. Then when you are ready, take a look at the evidence . . . Start by actually reading the information contained at the links. posted by George Washington at 9:56 PM Monday, April 03, 2006 9/11: a 7-Man Job A common objection to the argument that 9/11 was an inside job is that the conspiracy would be too big to keep quiet. In other words, the argument is that it is impossible that so many people could have kept quiet for so long. SOMEONE would have talked or made a mistake, so that the conspiracy would have been discovered. Is that true? Maybe. But anyone who's seen a Tom Clancy movie knows that a handful of bad guys can pull off big conspiracies, especially when they've got a high-level military or government person on board (Clancy writes fiction, but has alot of high-level friends in the military, and knows his stuff). Moreover, to anyone who knows how covert military operations work, it is obvious that segmentation on a "need-to-know basis", along with deference to command hierarchy, means that a couple of top dogs can call the shots and most people helping won't even know the big picture. I Can't Hear You It has now been shown that a handful of people were responsible for willfully ignoring the evidence that Iraq lacked weapons of mass destruction. See, for, example this article. Indeed, Iraq was not the first time the U.S. has ignored or faked intelligence in order to justify war. The facts are also clear that it was also obvious to U.S. intelligence that 9/11 was going to happen on or around the date it happened. So how many people would it have taken to ignore the intelligence that hijackers were going to attack? How hard would it have been for a handful of top-level administration officials to stick their fingers in their ears, say "nah nah nah" (like kids do when they don't want to hear what you're saying), and let it happen? Its Happened Before As confirmed by a former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence, NATO, with the help of U.S. and foreign special forces, carried out terror bombings in Italy and blamed the communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism. As one participant in this formerly-secret program stated: "You had to attack civilians, people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the Italian public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security." In the early 1950s, agents of an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers). Israel's Defense Minister was brought down by the scandal, along with the entire Israeli government. See also this confirmation. But not in the U.S., right? Well, recently declassified documents show that in the 1960's, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba. See this ABC news report, the official documents, and watch this interview with the former Washington Investigative Producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings (click link entitled "Joint Chiefs Guilty-Northwoods"). But that was a plan that – while it would have involved a large conspiracy - was never carried out, right? True. But as shown by this BBC special (which contains interviews with some of the key players), it is probable that America knew of the Japanese plan to attack Pearl Harbor -- down to the exact date of the attack -- and allowed it to happen to justify America's entry into World War II. See also this short essay by a highly-praised historian summarizing some of the key points (the historian, a World War II veteran, actually agreed with this strategy for getting America into the war, and so does not have any axe to grind). According to top WWII scholars, the Pearl Harbor conspiracy involved hundreds of military personnel. And -- most stunning -- the FDR administration took numerous affirmative steps to ensure that the Japanese attack would be successful These are just a few of many examples of what are called "false flag operations", where governments attack their own people or allies – then blame it on their enemy – in order to justify a war against that enemy. There are many more examples from recent history. In all of these cases, more than a handful of people were involved in planning, funding and carrying out the attacks. And yet no one spilled the beans or – if someone did – they were not believed. But 9/11 Was Much Bigger But 9/11 would have involved a much bigger conspiracy theory, which – unlike the examples above – would have been too big to keep quiet. Right? Not necessarily. NATO's Italian terror campaign would have involved quite a few people. Pearl Harbor, according to top historians, involved hundreds of people. 9/11, in contrast, could have involved fewer people. Indeed, one could argue that it involved ONE person. Let's say -- just as an example randomly pulled out of a hat -- Vice President Dick Cheney. Cheney was apparently in charge of the entire U.S. government’s counter-terrorism program prior to 9/11, and in charge of ALL 5 of the war games which occurred on 9/11, and Mr. Cheney also coordinated the government's "response" to the attacks. See this CNN article; and this essay. Being in charge of all counter-terrorism in the U.S., Cheney was probably the person who moved up major war games so that they would overlap with games and terror drills already planned for 9/11. And see this interview of the former head of the Star Wars program and a former Air Force colonel. And Cheney is the one who monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached the Pentagon and -- when a military man asked "do the orders still stand?" -- Cheney responded affirmatively: "The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out." And when it got down to, "The plane is 10 miles out," the young man also said to the vice president, "Do the orders still stand?" And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?" Watch the video for yourself. In addition, a former Los Angeles police department investigator, whose newsletter is read by 45 members of congress, both the house and senate intelligence committees, and professors at more than 40 universities around the world, claims that Cheney was in charge of the entire military and the secret service during the 9/11 attacks, that the secret service has its own communications system which is parallel to and can even cut into normal military communication channels. Most people acknowledge that Cheney is one of the most powerful vice presidents in history. In addition, Cheney has a long-standing history of falsifying and manipulating facts and taking brutal actions in furtherance of his imperial goals. For example, in the 70's -- Cheney was instrumental in generating fake intelligence exaggerating the Soviet threat in order to undermine coexistence between the U.S. and Soviet Union, which conveniently justified huge amounts of cold war spending. See also this article. And the former director of the CIA accused Cheney of overseeing torture policies. Colin Powell's former chief of staff also stated that Dick Cheney is guilty of war crimes. I'm not trying to be long-winded about Mr. Cheney's resume. I'm simply pointing out that Mr. Cheney seems to have the ability to make large U.S. policy decisions and take sweeping actions -- and to order others to do so -- without much problem. Now, of course, there was probably more than one person involved in this hypothetical example. Mr. Cheney would probably have had 1 guy manning the secret service communications system and another guy sitting at a computer inserting false radar blips onto air traffic controllers' screens. But this demonstrates that you didn’t need thousands to pull off 9/11. Wrecking Crew Let’s take it one step further. How many people would it have taken to demolish World Trade Center buildings 1, 2 and 7 with bombs? Hundreds? Thousands? How about 3. Specifically, there was plenty of opportunity to plant bombs in the Twin Towers. By way of example only: Bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly and inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers in the weeks preceding 9/11 There was a power down in the Twin Towers on the weekend before 9/11, security cameras were shut down, and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved The Twin Towers had been evacuated a number of times in the weeks preceding 9/11 And, as an interesting coincidence, a Bush-linked company ran security at the trade centers So here's a potential scenario: One guy in the Bush-linked security company lets in the bomb-setters; A 2-man crew of demolition experts sets the radio-controlled explosives while everyone is out of the building; And the same crew detonates the explosives using a radio transceiver. That adds only 3 more guys. So, we're now up to perhaps 7 people total to pull off 9/11 (Cheney, another guy making sure intelligence warnings aren't acted on, the secret service agent and the the radar guy, the security guy and the two-man demolition crew). 9/11 Comission Cover-Up Indeed, there is already documentation of a cover-up about 9/11. By who? Well, let's start with the 9/11 Commission itself. Years after the 9/11 Commission issued its report, governmental whistleblowers have leaked the following facts: • The Pentagon and Norad intentionally lied about what happened on 9/11 (free subscription required), and the 9/11 Commission knew this, but concealed this fact from the American people • The U.S. government was tracking many of the 9/11 hijackers long before 9/11, and the 9/11 Commission was informed of this, but hid this fact from the American people These cover-ups were carried out by the Commissioners, their staff, and the Pentagon, Norad and other military personnel directly involved in the relevant acts on and before 9/11, numbering collectively in the low hundreds. So a cover-up regarding 9/11 has already been established. How did they Keep Them Quiet? Jason Bourne (the fictional character in the Bourne movies) kept people quiet by offering 2 alternatives: He told them that he'd pay them alot of money if they cooperated; or he'd kill them if they didn't. Bourne had his own code of honor and was a good guy. If the 9/11 masterminds wanted to keep people quiet, they would probably be alot more ruthless, as they apparently do not follow Mr. Bourne's code of honor. In addition, there already have been whistleblowers who have come forward. See, for example, this short essay. But these whistleblowers have been wholly ignored by the 9/11 Commission and the media. Because the whistleblowers who have come forward have been completely ignored, other whistleblowers have been discouraged from risking it all to come forward. Moreover, many of the people who carried out 9/11 probably did so for ideological reasons -- they actually believed that killing 3,000 Americans was justified in a "ends justify the means" way as an excuse to carry out their agenda. Never underestimate the conviction of an idealogue. These people would not need to be quieted. Even after the disastrous wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, torture, spying, etc., they probably still believe they did the right thing by creating the justification for the administration's policies. They would thus have no desire to speak out. Just because no one you know is this extreme an idealogue doesn't mean people like that don't exist. There are people who will go to their grave believing that their monstrous crimes were the acts of patriots. How Many? Were more than 7 guys involved? Probably. But it could still have involved many less people than were needed to carry out NATO's Italian terror campaign or to hide the fact that an entire fleet of Japanese ships was sailing towards Pearl Harbor. Contrary to popular misperception, conspiracies are not that uncommon. Just because the government tries to claim that conspiracy theories are crazy does not mean that they don't exist. There are, to be sure, crazy people who believe that everything is a conspiracy, which it isn't. However, it is just as crazy to believe that nothing is a conspiracy as it is to believe that everything is. Indeed, the commonly-parroted statement that there are no conspiracies is propaganda spread to protect the criminals who carry out false flag operations, and just may be the biggest conspiracy of them all. posted by George Washington at 6:47 PM
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Cheney was apparently in charge of the entire U.S. government’s counter-terrorism program prior to 9/11, and in charge of ALL 5 of the war games which occurred on 9/11, and Mr. Cheney also coordinated the government's "response" to the attacks. See this CNN article; and this essay. Being in charge of all counter-terrorism in the U.S., Cheney was probably the person who moved up major war games so that they would overlap with games and terror drills already planned for 9/11. And see this interview of the former head of the Star Wars program and a former Air Force colonel. And Cheney is the one who monitored flight 77 for many miles as it approached the Pentagon and -- when a military man asked "do the orders still stand?" -- Cheney responded affirmatively: There's a good reason for those helicopters hovering over his estate in MD at 2am.
How about 3. Specifically, there was plenty of opportunity to plant bombs in the Twin Towers. By way of example only: Bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly and inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers in the weeks preceding 9/11 There was a power down in the Twin Towers on the weekend before 9/11, security cameras were shut down, and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved The Twin Towers had been evacuated a number of times in the weeks preceding 9/11 And, as an interesting coincidence, a Bush-linked company ran security at the trade centers good KISS article, Mark.
It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...
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It was a ten second free fall..that's what I saw, that's what you saw..that's what everybody saw...
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