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Title: Coral Snake's Bites of the Week 29 (The websites that are most helping to screw up America)
Source: 00-Hotherp reports
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Published: Oct 23, 2006
Author: Coral Snake
Post Date: 2006-10-23 00:17:53 by Coral Snake
Keywords: Free Republic, DemocraticUnderground, Gun Grabbers
Views: 476
Comments: 22

Coral Snake's Bites of the Week 29 (The websites that are most helping to screw up America)

This edition of the bites will be looking at websites rather than individuals. Together both the Republican and the Democratic parties have contributed to screwing up America with a combination of Statism, conspiracy and and incomptence. Therefore we will be giving bites to the main web forums of BOTH Parties FreeRepublic, LibertyPost and DemcraticUnderground in this version. One of the major areas of both deliberate totalitarianism and incompetence by both parties has been the area of gun control and therefore I'm also again including the anti gun rights site I consider the WORST OF THE BUNCH again in these bites.

As always Remember the KEY and enjoy.


Bite One --------------> FreeRepublic

FreeRepublic calls itself the PREMERE Conservative website but since the electipon of Shrubya it has been anything but a bastion of classical Conservatism (Small government, gun rights, non interventiuonist, anti New World Order, return to precious metals as basis of money). Instead freeRepublic has become the bastion of a new brand of TROTSKYITE COMMUNIST SOCIALISM falsely branded with the name Conservatism Called "Compassionate Conservatism" in some quarters and Neo Conservatism in other quartersand actually giving tthe Conservative brand a bad name that will probably assure a Democratic victory in the Congressional Elections this November barring the use of "Diebold" or other Neo-Con Repuke election fixing techniques. FreeRepublic is prpobably the Premere website alright, the premere website in giving Conservatism that bad name. Any discussion of genuine Conservative issues like rolling back or repealing "gun control" laws, the Income Tax, the Federal Reserve System, environmental land grabbing and illegal Illegal Immigration even by non violent but efective means like Jury Nullification is likely to get you banned as qa FReeper these days and put you on the receiving end of their infamous ZOTS and "viking kitties.

This is because FreeRepublic under the Shrubya administration has become the premere home of BUSHBOTS rather than genuine Conservatives and things will be getting even worse for traditional pro gun rights, anti big government Conservatives as the blatently gun grabbing, pro abort, pro illegal immigration Rudolph Giuliani becomes the focus of the FreeperBOTS in the 2008 Presidential election. Even worse is the total dominance of the site and even its moderators by pet Bushbots like Howlin, nopardons, Doug from Upland, Miss Marple, Pukin Dog and the like. These bots formed a squad of abuse button abusing harpies" that make sure that FreeRepublic stays as close as possible to 100% Bushbot ideological purity.

In addition to its decidedly Socialist brand or "Conservatism" FreeRepublic should also rank as one of the most dishonest sites on the Internet in other ways as well. One of these is running on "donations" when it is not legally registered as a Charity in any state in the union. FreeRepublic donations generally come in tow main types "Monthly" donations which are taken automatically from monthly donation subscriber's credit cards (This automatic money grabbing has been known to go on even after a banning of a monthly Donator, Hillary's Lovely Legs is the most ingamous example of this. However the most well known money grabbing gimmic for FreeRepublic is the Freepathon more widely known on sites and forums that know FreeRepublic well and expose its activities as the SnookerThon, Begathon, Griftathon or simply Thon. Basically this is a quarterly solicitation for funds consisting of a ProgressBar in a banner add template (This Freepathon progress bar when it is shown is the only "banner add" on FreeRepublic) that progresses from red to yellow to green as the money comes rollong in. Green signifies Freepathon success and is accompanued by fireworks graphics in the banner add background. The Snookerthon also consists of several "live threads" designed to beg for and complement those who surrender their cash to JimRob and his phoney Conservative website. All and all the Snookerthon is a prome example of the use of the "Operant Conditioning" techniques of Socialist "Educator" B. F. Skinner tied to soliciting donations for a web site.

Even worse however is the welcomeness that sex and sexual perversion seems to be enjoying as subjects at FreeRepublic. FreeRepublic shows a virtually FAUX News like attaction to sexual perversion and murder of the week stories. Discussion threads about "babes", breasts and butts are also quite common there and NOT just in the General/Chat forum. The site also has a history of opening itself to staklers as long as they are Bushbots with Syncro and Tame being the most well known examples of this.

The ONLY thing FreeRepublic is a PREMERE example of is that of a site that started with good intentions but lost them when they saw their mission supposidly completed in the sElection of Shrubya over the environmentalist/Liberal Al Gore in the election of 2000. Then they started to slide awau from those Conservative good intentions even after Shrubya revealed himself for what he truely was and that slide continues today making FreeRepublic NUMBER ONE of the websites that are helping to screw up America.


Bite Two --------------> LibertyPost

LibertyPost was founded by Neil McIver and Goldi-Lox as an alternative to FreeRepublic when JimRob's site began its bushbot, money grabber slide to its current status. Gradually however it became obvious that Goldi's Bushbot ideology and McIvers libertarianism could not mix on the moderation seat ad Mciver left LP, Once that happened LP soon to be known derisively as ElPee started the same downward slide under the control of its own bot harpy corps consisting mainly of Ghost of Quantrill (now banned) Be A Chooser, ConservaBabes' Atomic Lib Smasher (ALS also now banned) and others. It is now such a virtual equal of FreeRepublic in bot only moderation that ElPee has to be regarded as the second nost important website in helping to screw up America.

While Goldi runs ElPee on donations the process is much more informal and less based on "Operant Conditioning" than the regular FreeRepublic SnookerThons. Gun Rights and anti taxation, anti Federal Reserve, Anti New World Order posting is still also generally allowed on ElPee so it can not actually be regarded being as fallen as FreeRepublic YET. To determine when it is actually the equal of FreeRepublic in the degradation of Constitutional Conservatism watch to how it responds to Rudalph Guiliani when he runs for President on 08. It is largely FreeRepublic's entheusiastic support for Guiliani that places them at nonber ONE even without the other baggage that FreeRepublic carries.


Bite Three ------------> DemocraticUnderground

We can't leave the ORIGIANL Socialists, the "Liberals" out of the mix of websites that are screwing up America. Especially when their "premere" sites are literally mirror images of FreeRepublic on the other side. Of the two main "liberal" forums DemocraticUnderground comes the closes to that mirror immage in both its botism (albeit on the other side) and its use of gimmics and sex to attract posting members and denigrate bannees. While I will admit that I git the idea for the bites and the graphical "key" for them from DemocraticUnderground's "Ten Dumbest Conservatives" weekly collumn that is generally the only thing good about the site in my book. Basically after that DemocraticUnderground is exactly like FreeRepublic in banning the non ideologically pure and denagarating them with "The Toombstone" in the same way that FreeRepublic uses the ZOTS and Viking Kitties. DemocraticUnderground also runs off donations solicited by SnookerThons using the same "Operant Conditioning" techniques FreeRepublic uses geared toward their "Liberal" bot audience. The main example of this is that their progress bar is in the form of a boxing glove that knocks a picture of Shrubya out when the SnookerThon is successful. (DemocraticUnderground SnookerThons are run the month after FreeRepublic runs theirs. The next one should be in Novemebr for those interested in conferming this bite.

While they appear to give lip service to things like gun and property rights at DemocraticUnderground it is highly probable that ANYONE advocating serious gun or property rights action (like Jury Nullification) at DemocraticUnderground would most probably be banned and "Toombstoned" as a "Conservative". One must always remember the place is an IDEOLOGICALLY PURE "Progressive", "Liberal" site and will allow any genuine constitutionalism on these issues ONLY to preserve a facaude of "debate". They are tyruely such a perfect mirror of FreeRepublic that one should really wonder if JimRob is not running BOTH sites behind the scenes and DemocraticUnderground's Admin Skinner is only a front man. JimRob was a registered DEMOCRAT begore becoming a Bushbot you know.

As a "Progressive" site DemocraticUnderground is FUlly in favor of the following unconstitutional programs and proposals.

1. They generally support "gun control" even though they will allow individual posters to oppose it to create phony "debate".

2. They are for Illegal Immigration.

3. They are for the MARXIST Federal Reserve System and the LEFTIST version of the New World Order or World Government called the "World Community" or "Global Villiage".

4. They are for the MARXIST income tax.

5. They are generally for land and house grabs for "environmental" reasons.


Bite Four -------------> FreedomStatesAlliance

In this age of the PATRIOT Act, Diebold and legalized torture our GUNS are probably the LAST thing standing between us and the camps of a police state. Therefore any site advocating "gun control" could be regarded as one helping to screw up America. However the FreedomStates Alliance (http://www.freedomstatesalliance.com/) and the websites in their orbit, particularly GunGuys (http://www.gunguys.com/) for their combined practices of deception and sexual perversion in addition to gun grabbing.

The FreedomStatesAlliance subsite GunGuys still ranks as probably the most deceptive and lying anti gun rights site on the internet for its use of 19th century (wild wooly west) fonts often associated with pro gun movies and sites for promoting its anti gun message. furthermore it is probably the ONLY anti gun site using the sexually perverted idea that patriots keep guns because they act as a substitute p***s rather as protection from criminals or a totalitarian police state. (I wonder how they explain WOMAN Patriots who keep guns then ;c).) Here is the latest example of this perverted nonsense from Gun Guys:


Oh my. The image doesn57;t begin to do it the justice it deserves. 60;Thunderwear61; is a firearms holster that you wear under your other clothing, specifically in your pants. Which pretty much tells us, once and for all, what most gun guys consider their weapons to be a replacement for. Don57;t need Freud to figure that one out.

FreedomStatesAlliance also pushes for the most absolute "gun control" legislation of any of the current anti gun rights sites, the Brady/Million Mom March sites included. Even the Antique/Black Powder gun exemption from most gun control laws and the Federal Curio and Relic FFL program for interstate gun collectors represents too much gun freedom for these wannabee totalitarian extreamists.

It is my opinion that gun rights must be tha absolute patriot line in the sand weather the patriots are to the "right" or the "left" on everything else political. This means that we should publically pudh the following.

1. We should bush lawsuits against ALL private anti gun rights groups (ADL, SLPC, Brady/Million Mom March, FreedomStatesAlliance/Gun Guys etc.) as long as they are trying to do the same against gun manufacturers, dealers, owners etc.) The basis of these suits could be the advantage that "gun control" laws have given criminals over their victims who gad to deal with harrassments like gun owner licensing with testing (mainly in California), waiting periods and other devices that did not interfere with CRIMINALS obtainig the guns used againsrt them. Let them learn that lawsuits can be a TWO EDGED SWORD.

2. Begin a series of street demonstrations at the offices of the BATFE and the similar gun control enforcement divisions for state laws and at the capitals of the Federal Government and the various state legislatures, County boards of supervisors and city councils when they are in session. The demonstrations should point out that gun rights is our line in the sand against any further totalitarian incursion against Individual Rights in general. They should also point out than ANY further incursions of gun rights will be met with organized JURY NULLIFICATION in ALL criminal and civil cases where "gun control" is the ONLY issue before the court in question. Furthermore they should say in no uncertain terms that ANY attempt at any level of government to innitiate a door to dorr confiscatory ban on any kind of a firearm will be regarded as an ACT OF WAR by the New World Order on the American People and treated as such.


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#1. To: Coral Snake, RimJob (#0)

The Snookerthon also consists of several "live threads" designed to beg for and complement those who surrender their cash to JimRob and his phoney Conservative website.

FRaud is no more "non-profit" than my ass. I own a website. I could easily turn it into a message board forum with the FREE software included with my Control Panel. Do you know how much more it would cost me to do this?? Even with the bandwidth I estimate FRaud uses, not one penny more than my 12.95/year domain name, and less than 100 bucks a month for bandwidth. [Mine is free because a dear friend of mine at a radio station who is also a webhost gives me the bandwidth] If I were to pay, TONS of bandwidth to cover a forum site could be had for less than 100 bucks a month.

SO, how does RIMJOB come up with 80,000 a quarter and claim it's for operating costs? The IRS needs to do a little investigating IMO. This phoney is not only a TRAITOR to his country, but also a liar.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-23   0:41:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Coral Snake, Neil McIver (#0)

well done, as usual. very entertaining, CS.

Sweet Nothins'

christine  posted on  2006-10-23   18:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Coral Snake (#0)

Goldi called for a "TREASON ALERT" TO GHWBush

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=161422&Disp=9#C9

The mind once expanded by a new idea never returns to its' original size

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-10-23   19:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Coral Snake (#0)

Hey Snakie poo, as we say on DU, yer a Moran.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-23   19:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike, Coral Snake, all (#4)

Hey Snakie poo, as we say on DU, yer a Moran.

Give CS a break - he's just bringing us the controlled oppostion's slant on things.

I enjoy his weekly takes.

And I miss the kitties, etc...

Lod  posted on  2006-10-23   19:38:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Ferret Mike (#4)

If I were you Mr. Ferret I would ask why DU so resembles FreeRepublic (Quarterly SnookerThons complete with "Operant Conditioning" progress bars that "reward" the donors collectively, use of childish symbology against bannees, (the Tombstone for DU ZOTS and "Viking Kitties" for FR), demands for 100% bottish ideological purity (The other main Progressive Blog/Forum DailyKos does NOT exclude ALL right of centers even those who oppose Bush which was why I decided NOT to include them in the website bites this time.)

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-10-23   19:57:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Coral Snake (#0)

Democratic Underground has some decent posts and articles. I've never heard of that last one.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-10-23   20:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#7)

FreeRepublic still has a few decent posts and articles too. (Hint, these are the ones that get the ZOTS/Kitties.)

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-10-23   20:33:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Coral Snake (#0)

You made the El Pee Biker Bar:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=163306

Minerva  posted on  2006-10-23   20:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Coral Snake (#6)

"If I were you Mr. Ferret I would ask why DU so resembles FreeRepublic"

They take less, are clearer on their about page concerning their for profit status. And righties exist on DU, they don't at all at FR.

And my name is Mr. McCarthy, Mike, Mike McCarthy, Ferret, or Ferret Mike. not Mr. Ferret.

DU is a far better place then FR. Any Moran could see that.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-23   21:25:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

What is your DU screen handle? I would like to read some of your stuff there.

I mainly read the Top Ten Conservative Idiots of the Week Collumn there. (I basically modeled the Bites after that collumn.) However I would differ with DU on calling those idiots "Conservative" knowing the origins of the Neo-Con movement which they represent in Trotskyism.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-10-23   21:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Coral Snake (#11)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2464284&mesg_id=2464284

Ferret Mike is my handle. I have only used Hobbb, ferret, and Ferret Mike, not counting my returning bannee account names.

The above URL will take you to a thread I just started there about you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-23   21:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Coral Snake (#11)

Hee hee, gotta love DUers Snake, you appear to be a hit so far. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-23   22:06:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

The Top Ten Conservative Idiots collumn can usually be accessed at the DU homepage:

http://www. democraticunderground.com/

Where it is the first item every Sunday night through monday.

It can also be accessed on the right sidebar of the DU home page under the heading:

The Usual Suspects

Here is a more direct link to this week's edition:

http://journals. democraticunderground.com/top10/265

And by the way the reason I attack Doug from Upland so much is that I feel he sleighted the Gun Rights cause and NOT me personally.

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-10-24   0:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Also don't take anything I say about Wicca personally. I'm a Christian but a Trinitarian Universalist who does not believe in hell for anyone. (Hell is another one of the many things I have against Rome.)

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-10-24   0:08:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Coral Snake (#15)

I was reading in the LP Biker Bar and it looks like you got the attention of the bots -- and made them good and mad. So no matter what anyone says, your "Bites" was successful.

Minerva  posted on  2006-10-24   0:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Coral Snake (#15)

Thanks. And thanks for being a good sport. My best professors in college were the ones who stuck it to me and deflated me when I was being a pompous ass. And hey, it helped, I got so pissed off I read and did far more work in my classes I ever would have had they glad handled me.

If you want to do what you are doing and make it a bigger thing, you can do it. But it is going to take work. The spelling thing for example, I myself sucked a long time at spelling.

When I started posting I was one of two of the worst spellers at Time.Com/Politics.

What I did was write every word giving me problems and would put them on the wall behind my monitor. I would have a notepad window open and in moments like waiting for a page to load I would practice typing until each word was known and I would take it down.

Find ways like that to work on your weaknesses, because if you do you can be as big as you want to be on the Internet. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-24   0:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Minerva (#16)

He sure got more DUers to post then I thought would have.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-24   0:41:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

DemocraticUnderground is FUlly in favor of the following unconstitutional programs and proposals.

1. They generally support "gun control" even though they will allow individual posters to oppose it to create phony "debate".

2. They are for Illegal Immigration.

3. They are for the MARXIST Federal Reserve System and the LEFTIST version of the New World Order or World Government called the "World Community" or "Global Villiage".

4. They are for the MARXIST income tax.

5. They are generally for land and house grabs for "environmental" reasons.

You got all of the above correct which is why I never visit DU. And attacking FRaud or ElPiss is always a badge of honor IMO. None of them want Freedom. They want either Communist Fascism -DU/ or CorporoFascism -/FR LP.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-24   0:52:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: IndieTX (#19)

If you look at my posts, you will not I have less then 500 posts. I didn't go there until recently, and it is not my favorite forum. I like some things about it, some that I like you might not as admittedly I am more of a liberal then you. I know what you are getting at, and sometime I'll tell you my take on some things I have noted about DU I find amusing.

My all time favorite forum was Time.Com/Politics. Man I miss it. I will forever loath AOL and Steve Chase with every fiber of my being for killing it after the Time/AOL merger too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-24   0:58:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Coral Snake (#15) (Edited)

http://www.duhspot.net/politics /ppie.html

A song parody that was done in the last week of time. com/politics' life, with apologies to Don McLean and his song, American Pie.

The memorial page: http://www.duhspot.net/politics.html

I got to post the last Ask Dave thread, one of the ones Duh archived on the memorial site:

http://www.duhspot.net/p olitics/lastaskdave.html

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-24   1:05:54 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike, lodwick (#20)

Actually, I'd say I'm more "liberal" than DU, since Klinton increased the WOD budget more than any preceeding President in history. I am totally against prohibition in any form ;) and voted a straight Libertarian ticket in Texas with the exception of Kinky Friedman for Gov...and man how I hope he wins! Any race where a D and R were unopposed, I abstained. I want to see Joe Barton R Tx go down big time for sponsoring the "give the internet to big telecom" bill and Good Hair Perry get slammed for selling out Texas with the Trans Texas SHAFTA Corridor. He is a lying backstabbing SOB, and his DEM opponent is no better [of course!] I hope Kinky cleans house...but being as this is the "Bible belt" [used by BOTH parties for their "agendas"] I doubt the sheople will allow the likes of an enlightened few to herd them away from their ignorant "D/R" habits.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-24   10:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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