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Title: Use the right word DAMMIT! Why? Because Goldi-Lox sez to, that's why
Source: Liberty Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=163977&Disp=51#C51
Published: Oct 28, 2006
Author: Goldi-Lox
Post Date: 2006-10-28 21:24:13 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 1569
Comments: 59

I am officially adopting this "lecture" as the baseline for any and all arguments on LP regarding Illegal aliens.

We here on LP, shall now use the term "illegal alien" whenever we refer to those who have invaded our nation illegally.

The remainder of this article is astute and articulate. It should be our baseline argument from this point forward.

We need to use the correct terminology, and insist on using it correctly so that our efforts and our arguments are not undermined by inaccuracy, and confused with topics and situations that in reality do not exist.

By clearly defining the problem, we are better served in finding accurate and workable solutions.

I'm also going to put this in the LP Townhall, for future reference, and bookmark the link too!

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=163977&Disp=51#C51

Poster Comment:

The woman has gone completely Jim Rob.

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#1. To: All (#0)

20. To: Grania (#2) Once the correct term is established, you can call them anything you want.

However, we MUST establish that these are not just "immigrants".

They have not YET established that.

They are non-citizens, and are ALIEN to this nation.

We must underscore their illegal status by using the correct LEGAL terminology for them in order to deal with them.

By arguing ILlegal immigrant vs legal immigrant, we concede most of the argument to the globalists who want to muddy the issue...when what they say they want to do is "JUST" grant them "legal" status.

It isn't that easy when you establish from day 1, that they are not just ILlegal, but they are ALIEN to this nation.

It gives us a whole new foothold to push them back further...and that is the goal.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-28 16:47:32 ET

Goldi Goldi Goldi -- you run a FREE SPEECH forum? You are now the word cop at el pee? What kind of nasty little megalomaniac are you becoming?

Oh my yes, we are at war, we are at war. We must have the PROPER word used. This is war, the regular freedoms don't count, UNDERSTAND.

Frankly Goldi, I think you have so lost your mind I expect anything to come from your lips after this one. I do not believe anyone can be so damn arrogant.

You are falling in love Sally...with Fascism.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-28   21:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I suppose this means we can't use the term "beaner" over there any longer. ;0)

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-28   21:33:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

She booted me for posting a very strongly anti-Minuteman article. She talks in this thread like Tommie Tancredo is the official candidate of el pee, and infers that anyone going against him is for illegal immigrants, which means those disagreeing with her on immigration policy and who should be POTUS can only blame themselves of they get booted if they don't walk the tightrope their variance with her opinion puts them on.

The woman is a twit, a fascist, and a control freak.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-28   21:40:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You posted a very strongly anti-Minuteman article ?

Please explain.

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-10-28   21:44:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

LINK:The Minutemen - Enforcers of Death on the Border & Promoters of Racist Hatred

On May 1st which is International Worker's day I posted an article from the Revolutionary Worker criticizing the Minutemen, whom I absolutely detest.

I posted "rwor. org" in the source box, something I have always done and was banned on the grounds I "was being deceitful." (She has changed this and put a long title in there in caps.)

She then told me that articles from the Revolutionary Communist Party were banned from posting at elpee and let me know in no uncertain terms this was not a free speech forum.

You may disagree with me if you wish, I have zero problems with that.

My point is that either you have a forum that is free and open to news articles from all sources - including the RW which has existed for decades - or you have a closed forum that only allows limited disagreement at best with the sources narrowed to make your attempt to promote your views harder to do.

You don't put people on a narrow tightrope and ban them if they fall off based on your hatred of their view. That is not how a free speech forum is run.

My goal was to give representation to my viewpoint, and though I don't particularly like the Revolutionary Communist party or the RW, there was an article there that was sure to generate lively discussion on the issue, and I saw nothing wrong with an RW posting on May 1st.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-28   21:56:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And I said in my posting of the "Gruesome Weapons" piece that I was skeptical of the story's claims, but that I wanted a discussion of them, and of to what extent they might be true. Even that Goldi could not allow.

Well, actually, Goldi's reaction made me much more inclined to think that the story might be true.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-28   22:04:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And I said in my posting of the "Gruesome Weapons" piece that I was skeptical of the story's claims, but that I wanted a discussion of them, and of to what extent they might be true. Even that Goldi could not allow.

IMO the "Gruesome Weapons" story had very little to do with your banning. You were tangling up the Bots with facts on a daily basis. This was your real sin. The official GOP propaganda looks a little silly when presented alongside the acutal facts of the matter -- and this is the real reason why you had to go. But I am probably just stating the obvious.

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