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Title: Water-based fuel (Water powered cars)
Source: YouTube
URL Source: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QKO-hp7Tilk
Published: Oct 29, 2006
Author: ???
Post Date: 2006-10-29 05:08:10 by Neil McIver
Keywords: water power, hydrogen, fuel cells
Views: 164
Comments: 8


Poster Comment:

Anyone here got the basic equipment and saftey know-how to do a test? An accidental short of a car battery would be not difficult and very bad with the experiments shown, but it seems to be no real rocket science.

It would have been better if the gas coming up were shown to be hydrogen & Oxygen.

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#1. To: Neil McIver (#0)

I just clicked the link, and of course it's F'ed.

How hard can it be if it's on YouTube? I made my own Van DeGraff Generator, and my own Tesla Coils. How hard could this be?

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-10-29   9:16:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Re: the third video about Stanley Meyer....

This happened in the same town I've lived in all my life. Here is a link to a more detailed video about his invention. This link goes to his website, which I assume is being maintained by his family because Meyers died under suspicious circumstances.

My position on this has been that anyone trying to patent these inventions is being foolish because, at best, you will end up like Tesla (pennyless and alone) or like Meyers...dead. Build it, video every detail of contruction, draw up detailed blueprints and then dump everything onto the internet. If you want to be cute and have enough money to by a full page ad USA Today of the Times, publish the blueprints there. You'll make a hell of a lot more money living off the notoriety on the lecture and book circuit than you ever will trying to take on the oil companies and government and control an invention like this.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-29   9:46:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Anyone here got the basic equipment and saftey know-how to do a test?

If anyone here does try it, for the love of God, don't do it in your basement. Do it outside or in a well ventilated garage.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-29   9:48:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: orangedog, Neil McIver (#3)

Anyone here got the basic equipment and saftey know-how to do a test?

Have some basic equipment. No safety know-how, just a wreckless curiosity. hehehe

I think I will give this a try soon. The one guy used 12 volts DC and obtain good results. The other guy used some kind of high frequency high voltage AC and achieved apparently better results.

I wonder what 60 cycle AC would do at something like 16 to 18 volts? hmmmmm...

The part that is baffling my simple mind is how to safely transport the hydrogen from the cell to an internal combustion engine. I suppose that once an experiment or two yields hydrogen in sufficient quantities, that problem can be worked out.

I was just a kid back in 1977, working at Litton Datalog on Long Island one summer, when I overheard two of their engineers discussing a furnace for home heat that they were working on. It worked on these principles. Never heard anything about it again. Hmmmmm...

The SS and other Gestapo like US Government agents spying on this site should go suck a horse's ass!

Critter  posted on  2006-10-29   11:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Critter (#4)

I wonder what 60 cycle AC would do at something like 16 to 18 volts? hmmmmm...

If you look at the Meyers clip from the BBC's "Equinox" video, his system appeared to use pulsed DC and that the frequency seemed to be the important part. My guess is that it has a lot to do with getting near the resonant frequency of the water molecule or it's componant atoms to increase the efficiency of seperating the hydrogen from the oxygen.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-29   11:37:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Critter (#4)

The part that is baffling my simple mind is how to safely transport the hydrogen from the cell to an internal combustion engine. I suppose that once an experiment or two yields hydrogen in sufficient quantities, that problem can be worked out.

That's not hard. You just have the whole contraption with the water in a sealed container, and have a hose attached to the top and leading to whereever you want the gas channeled.

There's another video I saw on youtube which is a company promo. They show a nice industrial unit that works that way.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-29   12:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: orangedog (#3)

If anyone here does try it, for the love of God, don't do it in your basement. Do it outside or in a well ventilated garage.

Certainly wouldn't hurt, but the amount of gas coming off in the home experiments is probably so small to not be dangerous.

I'd be more concerned about accidentally shorting the home home made element, as shorting a 12 volt car battery can cause it to explode, generate extreme heat or something. One should be sure to have a 5 or 10 amp fuse in the circuit as a safety measure.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-29   12:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Neil McIver, wadosy (#0)

Water-based fuel (Water powered cars)

If you check wikipedia for Brown's Gas they say the energy required to produce the oxyhydrogen gas is greater than the energy in the gas. That's not contested at Wikipedia.

So it looks like the so-called water-powered car is actually an electric car.

Peter Carswell  posted on  2008-10-14   1:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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