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9/11 See other 9/11 Articles Title: UA 93: A Compilation of All Important Analyses UA 93: A compilation of all important analyses Author Post John Doe II Thu Sep 22 2005, 08:10PM Joined: Sat Mar 05 2005, 08:40PM : posts: 370 Compilation on all aspects of UA 93: Here now a compilation of all important articles and threads that deal in detail with the different issues of UA 93. The passengers: The oddities of UA 93 already start with the boarding process. ?Something Strange about Flight 93 Were any of the passengers supposed to be on the flight?? (by Frankl) http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.8 ?Flight 93 last minute passengers and crew? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?6.834 Basically the complete crew and many passengers decided the day before or even last minute to take UA 93. Given the fact that only 37 passengers flew with the plane one might even wonder why the flight wasn?t cancelled. 'Real deaths' on UA93 (Astro3) http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.279 Analyses the SSDI of the people aboard UA 93. No crew member and none of the at least 16 passengers that had first intended to take Flight 91 appear on the SSDI. Incidents along the flight path of UA 93: While according to the Final Report NOARD was never told of UA 93 the only case of successful air defense was in regard to Delta 1989 the so-called ?red herring? of 911: ?The Timeline of Delta 1989? http://team8plus.org/content.php?article.9 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x25173 And until today it has never been explained why Delta was believed to have been hijacked. Or better said there are at least three contradicting explanations. Delta 1989 is also in the center of something very strange that apparently happened at Cleveland Airport: ?The Cleveland Airport Mystery? (Woody Box) http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323 But while NORAD was in the latest version not informed by FAA there are three airports along the flight path of UA 93 that were evacuated. Strangely in all three cases it is not really clear why: ?911: Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Johnstown Towers are evacuated. Why?? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x26505 Pittsburgh Airport is also interesting because it was the only airport opened in the afternoon of 911 and it expected about 20 planes to land. As all commercial planes were already grounded and all military planes normally do have their military bases one can only wonder which planes were expected and why Pittsburgh was reopened after the evacuation and remained opened the afternoon. But the strangest evacuation happened in Johnstown: ?What was going on at Johnstown Airport on 911?? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x26158 That Johnstown Airport is indeed a very ?interesting? airport and therefore the evacuation very worth paying attention to can be seen reading this article: ?9/10- 9/11: The Johnstown "Terror Team" Cover-up? http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.20 It is worth mentioning as well that a very interesting witness saw the crash of UA 93: A C-130 which by pure coincidence ha already witnessed the attack on the Pentagon: ?C-130 Saw Pentagon & Pennsylvania Crashes (The Surgeon)? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.70 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x44660 Aboard UA 93: The following article exposes many of the main contradictions about what happened aboard: - Why do family members, Newsweek and an official hear something completely different on the CVR than the FBI and the Commission? - Why did no passenger see all alleged hijackers? - Why does no passenger mention Donald F. Greene, a pilot aboard? - How many passenger attacks were there: One or two? - Why didn?t the passenger manage to break the cockpit door that is considered to be flimsy? - Why was the transponder switched on and off again around 10:00? ?UA 93: Too many contradictions? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.24 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x23179 One simple question: ?UA 93: How did the alleged hijackers manage to enter the cockpit?? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.201 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39467 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39418 Why weren?t the pilots warned by the flight attendants who should have had enough time given the fact that the hijackers first killed somebody? The phone calls: The basis for all what we know of what happened aboard are the phone calls of the passengers are crew members. A detailed analysis of them is therefore obligatory. ?Cell phone studies? http://physics911.ca/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6 http://www.the7thfire.com/9-11_cell_phone_hoax.htm Here two studies that deal with the possibility of doing phone calls with cell phones from planes and the conditions that are needed to manage a call. ?A physical "miracle": Cell phone calls from UA 93? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.321 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48029 Here a list of calls that were made with cell phones, with airphones and the ones that we can?t know for sure. ?Were UA 93's phone calls really recorded?? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.258 While even the movie on UA 93 had access to the phone call recordings it is astonishing that the Independent Commission only refers to transcripts of the calls or interviews with recipients of calls. Not a single time do they refer to a recording (contrary to calls from AA 11) UA 93: Missing phone calls! http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.274 If the information of Verizon is correct than there are many phone calls from UA 93 that have never been made public. Here detailed analyses of all known phone calls: ?Deconstructing Tom Burnett's phone calls? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.288 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48033 Burnett was most likely the first one to call from the plane and all in all he called his wife four times. Very surprising is his prophecy that he repeated twice that the hijackers would crash the plane into the ground. Something that the hijackers themselves wouldn?t have known at that time. ?Deconstructing Todd Beamer's "Let's Roll!" phone call? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.257 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48034 This is certainly the most famous phone call. Which only appeared in the news after a couple of days. Basically every detail of this phone call is in doubt after a close analysis. ?Deconstructing Jeremy Glick's phone call? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.302 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48032 This is the longest phone call. Important especially as apparently Jeremy Glick was still at the phone when the WTC collapsed. This clearly contradicts the official timeline. Glick is also the only one who mentions that the alleged hijackers are ?Iranian?-looking (nobody else specifies their ethnic background) and that they put on red bandanas. ?Deconstructing Edward Felt's phone call? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.315 Ed Felt?s call was the first passenger?s call that appeared in the media. As this call is completely different from all the others it is especially important. Important as well: Did Sandra Felt hear her husband mention the explosion while she was listening to the tape or not? Is Pittsburgh Post-Gazette lying or the New York Times? ?Deconstructing the lesser known phone calls? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.316 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x48030 Here a detailed analysis of all other phone calls from the plane. Though the calls are sometimes very short they contain innumerous contradictions. Analysing the phone calls we can realize that there are highly contradicting information given concerning the following list of very basic questions: Were the passengers herded to the back? If yes, how many? Are dead people on the floor of first class? If so: How many? And passengers or pilot? Was there a hijacker guarding the passengers? Did he have a bomb around his body? And talking about the phone calls one shouldn?t forget Paul Thompson?s question: ?UA 93: Why didn't the FBI advice the passengers?? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.14 The crash: The following article analyses all eyewitnesses of the plane crash. The central article dealing with the crash is: ?Proof that the official UA 93 story is a big hoax? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.168 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x37066 In this article all eyewitnesses seeing a plane coming in from northwest before crashing and all eyewitnesees east of the crash site who strangely witness a plane as well just before the crash are analysed. Based on these accounts and the debris that was raining at Indian Lake and New Baltimore and that can?t be explained (as the FBI wishes) simply by the wind all theoretically possible scenarios including one, two or even three planes are presented. Unfortunately neither any scenario that includes only one plane nor any scenario that corresponds to a last minute shoot-down decision can have happened. It is simply refuted by too much contradicting evidence. The following article analyses the eyewitnesses of the descending plane and of the famous white plane: ?UA 93: Part I: ... and kiss the official UA 93 theory good-bye!? http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.11 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x28985 This article concentrates on the altitude the witnesses see the plane flying before crashing. ?Part II: ... and kiss the official UA 93 theory good-bye!? http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.19 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x30634 Unfortunately the altitude doesn?t make it even theoretically possible that the witnessed plane could have crashed (as it apparently did) in a 90?. Based on Glick?s phone call during which his wife mentioned the collapse of the WTC the following article discusses the crash time of the flight: ?UA 93: Why the 10:03 crash time cannot be true? http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.12 Another important article discusses the crash time especially based on the seismic recording (by stickdog): http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=808 The crash site: Based on several articles the suspicion is that in fact no plane caused the official crater of UA 93. Therefore a detailed analysis of this crater is necessary: ?UA 93: Analysing the crash site. Real or fake?? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.1161 The famous raining confetti that the FBI explained by the wind is analysed here. Not surprisingly the explanation simply isn?t possible: ?UA 93: The raining confetti? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.11 ?Raining debris at Indian Lake What really happened to Flight 93? http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.10 Here a look on the size of the crater. The heighest estimation of eyewitnesses is that the gouge is 40 feet. How can a tail of 44 feet fit in there? Not to talk of the rest. ?Shanksville: Is the crater too small?? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.196 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x39361 It doesn?t add much credibility to the investigation if the FBI states that 95% of the plane have been recovered while coroner Wallace Miller only talks of 8%. Given the fact that everybody says that the plane basically vaporized: Who do you think is right: ?UA 93: How much of the wreckage was recovered?? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x42307 Identification process: ?Investigation of the UA 93 crash site and DNA analysis: Background info? http://www.team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?7.1162 General information about the investigation of the crash site and the DNA analysis. Back to top John Doe II Mon Sep 26 2005, 07:05AM Joined: Sat Mar 05 2005, 08:40PM : posts: 370 Woody Box remarked correctly to me that one important aspect of UA 93 is missing in this compilation: The two different departure times of UA 93: 8:28 and 8:42. This is definitely a basic fact that must be considered in all analyses of the flight. Back to top John Doe II Sun Jan 29 2006, 03:04PM Joined: Sat Mar 05 2005, 08:40PM : posts: 370 To be added: Plane swap over Pennesylvania by Woody Box. http://www.team8plus.org/content.php?article.26 Back to top Anonymous Tue Apr 25 2006, 08:24AM Guest: Excellent work! It would be interesting to know what the victims families of Flight 93 would think of all this information. Flight 93 is just one part of many in the government's complicity of treason and mass murder. How can America be so blinded by the PET GOAT and other treasonist dogs. Back to top ewing2001 Tue Apr 25 2006, 10:32AM Joined: Fri Mar 11 2005, 02:30AM : posts: 1017 Now also mirrored at the message board of United Pictures :) United 93 -official messageboard http://www.universalpictures.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=316#316 UA 93: A compilation of all important analyses originally compiled by "John Doe II", http://team8plus.org Back to top ewing2001 Mon May 01 2006, 07:28PM Joined: Fri Mar 11 2005, 02:30AM : posts: 1017 Lee Purbaugh http://www.post-gazette.com/headlines/20010912somerscenenat4p3.asp Lee Purbaugh, 32, working just his second day at Rollock Inc., a scrap yard next to the reclaimed strip-mine land, looked up from operating a burning torch to see the jetliner just 40 feet above him... He didn't see the crash, according to his first own account, but only speculates about it: http://www.msnbc.com/news/802759.asp?0cl=cR "...it went real low. And it probably crashed down, it went nose to tail." He clearly saw a military distraction aircraft, as also stated by Susan Mcelwain (and restated in this italian documentary "Il Mistero di 93") http://team8plus.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?2837 http://japanfocus.org/article.asp?id=019 Susan Mcelwain, 51. “I was driving and it passed right over my head. It was white with no markings; at the rear it had an engine, an enormous tail, and two fins (vertical stabilizing wings). It was definitely military.” (The Daily Mirror (London) September 13, 2002).
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