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Title: Raising Pagan Children, Scary
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URL Source: http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_14616.shtml
Published: Oct 31, 2006
Author: By Sharon Hughes
Post Date: 2006-10-31 13:16:50 by Mind_Virus
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Raising Pagan Children, Scary By Sharon Hughes http://MichNews.com Oct 31, 2006 This Halloween, what’s your choice for the scariest - out of control parents or crazy dictators? A few week’s ago we watched as out-of-control heads of state came to deliver their 'evils of America and President Bush' addresses to the UN, and even invited to do the same in our colleges and churches. Most Americans were irate at the gull of Hugo Chavez, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Evo Morales to do such a thing, and on American soil, at that! While this was going on the San Francisco Chronicle continued to report, extensively, on the "Burning Man" which is held in the deserts of Nevada each year. A favorite topic for this Left Coast newspaper, last year it devoted weeks to an entire series on this annual pagan event’s 20 year anniversary. The Chronicle’s online site has lots of postings and pictures of this year's "Burning Man" pyrotechnic-fest where Wiccans and nudists, transvestites and artists, pagans and, well you get the picture, meet for a week of “glorious Hell on earth.” Burning Man's ‘10 Principles’ include, among other things: "radical inclusion, radical self-reliance and radical self-expression," which they say in their mission statement, "…can produce positive spiritual change in the world." What kind of ‘radical’ principles are they talking about? What kind of ‘spiritual’ change are they looking for? We can get a glimpse simply by looking at a few clippings about this year’s event written up in the San Francisco Chronicle. One article, "Cute Fuzzy Little Children, On Fire" by Mark Morford, particularly stuck out to me as clearly depicting the worldview of those who attend and advocate for the "Burning Man," as well as the scary future ahead for the children who are exposed to this event and the mindset of its devotees, some of which are their parents. Morford writes: "Of course there are children at Burning Man...And I suppose you could very well think, by bringing your kid here early on, you might earn yourself a super-cool teenager, one of those precious and rare, alternative-minded artistic supergenius teens who doesn't think her dad is, by definition, a total dork, ultimately resulting in a radiant spiritually luminous carefully tattooed anarchist poet/astronomer adult who will cherish and admire you, her superhip clairvoyant Burning Man parent, forevermore and send you loving postcards and thoughtful gifts and oh yes help save the human race in the process. And you very well might. Of course, you always run the risk that she will rebel, will reject all parental teachings no matter how raw and naked and funky, will recoil from all supposed hipness and all this, you know, hot glittery ridiculousness, and do the typical teenager thing and race in the exact opposite direction from the sillywonderful Burning Man ethos and instead decide to become, say, a virgin Mormon Republican taxidermist. But hey. Risk you run. Of course, everyone is childlike here. You could painlessly argue it's all one giant, insanely impractical, wildly expensive, scrotum-shrivelingly hot regression therapy session, albeit one with fabulous drugs and amazing art and much fire and severe love/hate living conditions and incalculable numbers of the aforementioned nipples, and huge percentage of those who come here are clearly on some sort of mutated mission to recover something lost or rekindle something stagnant, something having to do with childlike wonder and joy. Or maybe they all just want to play with matches and run with scissors and scream into the Void and have the entire community merely cheer them on and beg for more. Same difference, really." The rest of the article is here. What can I say? It speaks for itself. It's important to know, however, that this is no small gathering, as you can see from the pictures. And it is of no small consequence, for not only will "Burning Man" have an impact on the children who attend and are raised by those who attend, but it will have an impact eventually on our nation. For some of these kids will grow up to be teachers and writers and film makers and politicians and…again, I think you get the picture. And it’s a pretty scary one.
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#1. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
Didn't the "Jesus Camp" people also talk about "children on fire"? Except on fire for Jesus and Bush? They're a little scarier to me than a bunch of ex-hippy burnouts.
the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.
Hardly. BushCheneyInc and the genocide of 655,000 Iraqi people, displacement of 1.9 million, the death of how many Americans and the maiming of how many more in 911 and in the "Operation Democracy for Oil"...that's scary.
All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.
ROTFL!!! Don't bees alarmed, you can keep dem bicycles.Nobody can pimp dat ride.
Japanese are pagans (Shintoist animists) and their children seem better behaved than American Christian kids.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Wait 'til they grow up to be like their grandparents who were not known for being very nice. Ask anyone who lived in the nations they invaded in WWII. Meanwhile, 16 million of our misbehaving, but self-sacrificing and predominantly Protestant Christian troops were saving Europe and the South Pacific from tyrants.
Hmm.. looks like a bunch of horny naked guys looking to get laid with some women who think they are so smart because they are pagan. How easy they are taken advantage of.
To do what? Turn it over to another group of tyrants and to engage in a little tyranny for Uncle Sam before they left? Scratch that, DC never left Southern Asia or Europe. Hip hip hooray, what a victory.
Meanwhile, 16 million of our misbehaving, but self-sacrificing and predominantly Protestant Christian troops were saving Europe and the South Pacific from tyrants. Orthodox Christians forced to serve an atheistic regime defeated Protestant and Catholic German folk forced to serve a mystical centered regime with help from Americans and British forces of all faiths. I don't know what made the Japanese the monsters they were in WW2 or what made the Nazis the monsters they were in WW2. My father was a child when the Nazis ruled Europe and he remembers the hell on earth these "Christian" born Nazis inflicited on fellow Christians like my father. The modern Japanese people are a well mannered, well behaved and cultured people - these pagan Japanese put Christian Americans (who vaporized whole Japanese people in WW2 in a brutal manner to make any talk of how Japanese behaved in WW2 moot) to shame.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
So you would have preferred Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan remain?
So you would have preferred Stalin and Mao to gain? I can play the loaded question game too.
No, that was FDR, and a real disaster. He left tens of thousands of American POWs to Stalin, along with half of europe. But that was the deal he made, not our troops. Mao and Stalin were both around before WWII. You sound annoyed we didn't take them on too. Something called suicide.
The author of this article sounds like a budding schizophrenic. I had a hard time getting the point while trying to wade through all his word salad. It would have helped had he been a bit more objective, and coherent.
So was my mother. However her memories are of the sirens, having to rush underground, and living on cabbage and potatos with only about 8 ozs of meat a week. She never mentioned anything about there being any trouble with "Christians", only with the situation as a whole, and having to do a bunch of nazi community service activities which everyone hated.
It would have helped had he been a bit more objective, and coherent. clarity bump
Not at all. I don't know where you come up with that. I wouldn't have so much as bought a war bond, recycled an ounce of cooking oil or wore a frayed bootlace to help depose a single Kraut, Jap or Red outside the shores of the Great Lakes.
You mean those few who made it out alive? Funny isn't it, we hear next to nothing anymore about what happened during WWII in the East. The Japanese were indeed very brutal, relished torture, rape and murder.
This sounds like you are saying the British and Americans were helping the Nazis? I'm aware the general sentiment has morphed into that, it's the first time I've actually seen it in words though.
I believe a closer syntax inspection and you'll see that he is stating the Soviets were helped by the Americans and British. The sentence could've used some commas.
To do what? Turn it over to another group of tyrants and to engage in a little tyranny for Uncle Sam before they left? Scratch that, DC never left Southern Asia or Europe. Hip hip hooray, what a victory. Here you posted that our WWII sacrifices were pointless. I'm wondering why you think that our troops are not an improvement over the ones we ousted.
Who have to go all the way to the middle of the desert. Now that's motivation.
No, the Russian people with the help of the Americans and British defeated the Nazis.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Yup. Sorry for that. I type at work when on the phone - some doodle on paper - I dive into the forums while I am on hold.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
ok, why are we comparing "christians" to "pagans"?? that is like comparing cantaloupes to melons, christians are pagans, there is not one CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY celebrated today that is listed in the bible as a HOLY DAY or holiday. not even easter or christmas, two of the most holy holidays for christians, are in the bible!!! (easter is mentioned ONCE in the entire 1189 chapters of the bible, and it was a typo!) celebrating things as holidays, that are not holy, and throwing God's intended Holy Days out the window, well, i think that is about as pagan as you can get!!!
I see that now. That sentence would make a good English excercise.
not even easter or christmas, two of the most holy holidays for christians, are in the bible!!! (easter is mentioned ONCE in the entire 1189 chapters of the bible, and it was a typo!) Well that is interesting...
No, just Prescott Bush (Smirk's grandaddy), and the division of Harriman banking who he worked for at the time, plus Thomas Watkins (founder of IBM).
"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Ben Franklin
Well that is interesting... And true.... A study of mithraism is in order to come to a better understanding of what really happened. Mithraism was a very popular pagan religion in Rome around 300 AD, and actually had more in common with "christianity" than it had differences - the chief difference being that mithraism only allowed participation by males. Mithraism was growing in popularity, but then suddenly around 340 AD it simply vanished from existence. Although it would be hard to prove it, the most likely scenario is that the 2 religions merged; thus, christianity is in actuality paganism. December 25 is the date which was used as the celebration of the birthday of Mithra (the Winter solstace). Mithras was born of a virgin, remained celibate, his worship involving baptism, the partaking of bread marked with a cross and wine as sacrificial blood, and held Sundays sacred. See any similarities? See: http://www.taivaansusi.net/historia/mithraism.html "Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Ben Franklin
Pure unadulterated truth !
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
What kind of ‘radical’ principles are they talking about? What kind of ‘spiritual’ change are they looking for? hint....... CHAPTER LXX MORALITY (1) Cara Soror, Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law. ... 36 Freemasonry, http://www.skepticfiles.org/mys4/mwt-casc.htm - Cannonfire Aleister Crowley, a.k.a., "The Great Beast 666" -- the infamous practitioner of "sex magick" whose motto was "Do What Thou Wilt" -- http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/ 04/george-w-bush-barbara-bush-and.html - Ritual Abuse Free Home The Law of Thelema is contained in the channeled writings of Aleister Crowley and says "Do what thou wilt". ... http://ritualabusefree.org/ - What do you know about Witchcraft? Their law 'and ye harm none, do what thou wilt,' (the same as the ... Galatians 6:7 be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, ... http://www.exposingsatanis m.org/witchcraft.htm - It is rebellion against God [goes back to the serpent in the Garden of Eden...."Oh God, didn't really mean that...you can do what you want...."]: 1Sa 12:14 If ye will fear the LORD, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the LORD your God: 1Sa 12:15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the LORD, but rebel against the commandment of the LORD, then shall the hand of the LORD be against you, as [it was] against your fathers. 2Ki 17:15 And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that [were] round about them, [concerning] whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them. 2Ki 17:16 And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, [even] two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. 2Ki 17:17 And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. 2Ki 17:18 Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only. 2Ki 17:19 Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made. 2Ki 17:20 And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight. To make a long story short, they are trying to defile America [Micah 4:11], so God will throw Christians out of the land He has given us to inherit. 2 Samuel 7:10/Ezekiel 11-13/John 10/cross at Cape Henry, because they're JEALOUS: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu032.html#21 They imagine a vain thing.....Psalm 2. 1Sa 15:23 For rebellion [is as] the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness [is as] iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from [being] king...... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Sa/1Sa015.html#23 http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/1Sa/15/23.html God is going to purge THEM, if they don't straighten out and fly right:
One article, "Cute Fuzzy Little Children, On Fire" by Mark Morford, particularly stuck out to me as clearly depicting the worldview of those who attend and advocate for the "Burning Man," as well as the scary future ahead for the children ...
#2. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
Scary?
#3. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
radical inclusion?
Mmmmmmm. Three-screams rat. -- Homer Liddy
#4. To: bluedogtxn, Mind_Virus, angle, Tauzero (#1)
Didn't the "Jesus Camp" people also talk about "children on fire"? Except on fire for Jesus and Bush?
#5. To: Destro (#4)
#6. To: Tauzero (#3)
#7. To: robin (#5)
Meanwhile, 16 million of our misbehaving, but self-sacrificing and predominantly Protestant Christian troops were saving Europe and the South Pacific from tyrants.
#8. To: robin (#5)
Wait 'til they grow up to be like their grandparents who were not known for being very nice. Ask anyone who lived in the nations they invaded in WWII.
#9. To: SmokinOPs (#7)
Scratch that, DC never left Southern Asia or Europe. Hip hip hooray, what a victory.
#10. To: robin (#9)
So you would have preferred Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan remain?
#11. To: SmokinOPs (#10)
#12. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
#13. To: Destro (#8)
(Edited)
My father was a child when the Nazis ruled Europe and he remembers the hell on earth these "Christian" born Nazis inflicited on fellow Christians like my father.
#14. To: Diana (#12)
had a hard time getting the point while trying to wade through all his word salad.
#15. To: robin (#11)
You sound annoyed we didn't take them on too.
#16. To: robin, Destro (#5)
Wait 'til they grow up to be like their grandparents who were not known for being very nice. Ask anyone who lived in the nations they invaded in WWII.
#17. To: Destro (#8)
Orthodox Christians forced to serve an atheistic regime defeated Protestant and Catholic German folk forced to serve a mystical centered regime with help from Americans and British forces of all faiths.
#18. To: Diana (#17)
This sounds like you are saying the British and Americans were helping the Nazis?
#19. To: SmokinOPs (#15)
#20. To: echo5sierra (#6)
horny naked guys
Mmmmmmm. Three-screams rat. -- Homer Liddy
#21. To: Diana (#17)
This sounds like you are saying the British and Americans were helping the Nazis?
#22. To: SmokinOPs, Diana (#18)
I believe a closer syntax inspection and you'll see that he is stating the Soviets were helped by the Americans and British. The sentence could've used some commas.
#23. To: Destro All (#4)
Japanese are pagans (Shintoist animists) and their children seem better behaved than American Christian kids.
#24. To: SmokinOPs, Destro (#18)
(Edited)
I believe a closer syntax inspection and you'll see that he is stating the Soviets were helped by the Americans and British. The sentence could've used some commas.
#25. To: ladybug (#23)
that is like comparing cantaloupes to melons, christians are pagans, there is not one CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY celebrated today that is listed in the bible as a HOLY DAY or holiday.
#26. To: Diana (#17)
This sounds like you are saying the British and Americans were helping the Nazis?
#27. To: Diana (#25)
not even easter or christmas, two of the most holy holidays for christians, are in the bible!!! (easter is mentioned ONCE in the entire 1189 chapters of the bible, and it was a typo!)
#28. To: Diana (#25)
christians are pagans, there is not one CHRISTIAN HOLIDAY celebrated today that is listed in the bible as a HOLY DAY or holiday. not even easter or christmas, two of the most holy holidays for christians, are in the bible!!! (easter is mentioned ONCE in the entire 1189 chapters of the bible, and it was a typo!)
#29. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
Burning Man's ‘10 Principles’ include, among other things: "radical inclusion, radical self-reliance and radical self-expression," which they say in their mission statement, "…can produce positive spiritual change in the world."
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