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Title: Rock Music's Satanic Message
Source: SaveTheMales.ca
URL Source: http://savethemales.ca/
Published: Oct 28, 2006
Author: Henry Makow Ph.D.
Post Date: 2006-11-01 06:19:39 by Red Jones
Keywords: None
Views: 353
Comments: 34

Rock Music's Satanic Message

October 28, 2006

By Henry Makow Ph.D.

Recently NBC Dateline had a story about two average American teenagers who murdered and cut up a friend, put the body parts in a garbage bag and hid it in a drain sewer. (Dateline Videos "It began as a Teen Drama")

The announcer, the parents and the audience shook their heads and asked: "How could they do this?"

I was dumbfounded too. After watching a ten-hour 4-DVD presentation on the Satanic agenda infusing much youth music, I have the answer. Incredible and bizarre as it sounds, the younger generation is being inducted into Satanism. It is being taught to murder, rape and hate society in general, and especially Christians and Christianity.

Entitled "They Sold their Soul for Rock and Roll" the DVD makes a convincing case that espousing Satanism is the price of success in the music industry. Starting with the roots of Rock and Roll, down to Heavy Metal, Goth, Grunge and Rap, this documentary shows that many famous musicians actually see themselves as evangelists for Satan and say they derive their power from him. They have literally sold their souls to the devil, and their primary goal is to make us do the same. The MTV network is the handmaiden of this agenda.

Produced by "Fight the Good Fight Ministry" the DVD analyses the lyrics, interviews and album art of more than sixty superstars. The consistent espousal of Satanists Aleister Crowley, Anton LaVey (Howard Levey) and Madame Blavatsky, and their inclusion in the album art, along with familiar Satanic imagery, is part of a deliberate elite agenda. The list of artists exposed includes the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Led Zeppelin, Kurt Cobain, Marilyn Manson and Eminem. You can see excerpts on line. I recommend you watch Cobain, Manson and Eminem.

This excerpt from "DEMONS" by Rigor Mortis is typical of heavy metal.

"We come bursting through your bodies Rape your helpless soul Transform you into a creature Merciless and cold We force you to kill your brother Eat his blood and brain Shredding flesh and sucking bone Till everyone's insane We are pestilent and contaminate The world Demonic legions prevail"

(from "Satanic Roots of Rock and Roll" by Jack Phau)

The DVD explains how music is the most effective means of brainwashing and mind control, especially if the audience thinks it's listening to spontaneous creative expression. The DVD traces the Satanic message "Do as thou wilt" (formerly "do your own thing") in many songs advocating free sex, drugs, violence, murder and mayhem. You are God! You can do anything you want! There is no inherent moral order based on universal Love and Justice. The rock concert scenes are chillingly reminiscent of the Nazi Nuremberg Rally.

The unabashed espousal of evil raises the question: why are the world's biggest corporations purveying this poison? Why is tainted spinach intercepted, yet this toxic filth is actually pumped into the minds and souls of millions of unsuspecting children?

The Illuminati's central banking cartel controls these corporations. Its aim is "revolution" i.e. "communism" – banker world dictatorship and the destruction of Western Civilization (i.e. based on the four pillars of religion, nation, family and race.) They need to translate their control of our government's credit (ability to print money) into total control using their cultural and political puppets. This is why opposition to socially destructive elements (e.g. purveying homosexuality to straights) often is NOT tolerated, but vicious hatred against Christians and society in general is not only acceptable, but actually bankrolled.

"Christianity is our only real enemy since all the political and economic phenomena of the bourgeois states are only its consequences," a member of the Illuminati explained.

The DVD reveals that the Columbine shooters knews the lyrics of Satanist bands by heart, and literally were acting out these instructions. They deliberately targeted Christian students but the term "hate crime" apparently doesn't apply to Christian victims.

Cassie Bernall was asked to reject God to spare her life. She refused. She is a Saint but there is little mention of her in the Illuminati media.

"How could this happen?" Tom Brokaw intoned. With one hand, the mass media pretends to be shocked, and with the other hand it teaches children to kill.

Similarly, media and government pretend to stamp out child predators while at the same time promoting rock groups that encourage children to have sex. The DVD shows a "Spice Girl" serenading a six-year-old with a song advocating self-abandonment. It shows 14-year-old teenage girls who look like hookers admitting that group sex orgies are commonplace.

Reaction to this DVD often is shock and denial. There is a tendency to dismiss it as the overzealous work of Christian fundamentalists. Indeed, the makers are too quick to reject Eastern religions as satanic and they fail to see how some performers like Elvis Presley might have been honest dupes with good intentions. If you're not a Christian, I urge you to overlook the sermonizing (although I personally think it is pertinent.) The overall message cannot be denied and should not be ignored.

BRAINWASHING

The Illuminati started off innocently in the fifties and sixties, urging the young to defy authority and indulge their libido. Little did we suspect that "Sargeant Pepper" referred to the Satanist and MI-6 Agent Aleister Crowley and that the Beatles' label EMI stands for "Electrical and Mechanical Instruments" one of Britain's largest war contractors.

Little did we know the music industry is controlled by corporations using the mob, and many performers are brainwashed and drugged and live in fear. Little did we suspect that their rebellious message advanced the Illuminati's "divide and rule" strategy. Or that their prescriptions for living would make us dysfunctional and ruin our lives.

To a large extent, our lives are shaped by Illuminati-controlled popular culture and history.We are fed our ideas and beliefs instead of using common sense and first-hand experience. We are the product of someone else's lab experiment. The "someone else" is a disciple of Satan who has hijacked humanity.

An argument can be made for some aspects of the "Sexual Liberation" and "New Age" movements but the bottom line is they were designed to dilute and undermine Christianity and serve as an intermediary step to a "Clockwork Orange" society ( "Grand Theft Auto" meets "Brave New World.")

No wonder we see so many young people wondering around looking like zombies. What is the pernicious message constantly whispered in their ear? Is the Illuminati breeding terrorists in our midst, but real ones this time ?

Society cannot eschew God and pretend to be neutral and secular. God is synonymous with universal spiritual ideals: truth, love and justice. You cannot turn off the Light without being consumed by Darkness. Don't be fooled. People who remove the Ten Commandments from public life are merely making room for golden calves and sacrificial altars.

The "Open Conspiracy" is a cancer at the heart of Western Society and it is reaching a critical stage. Do we have the "eyes to see and the ears to hear?" The source of this cancer's power is the private central banking cartel. Do we have the courage to tackle it? (This link will take you to the video of "America: From Freedom to Fascism." and Web site.)

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#1. To: All (#0)

Makow is always controversial and provocative. What I like about this article is that he has so many quality links that might be worth studying. Here are some

Satanic Roots of Rock - http://www.jesus-is- http://savior.c om/Miscellaneous/satanic_roots_of_rock.htm

Satan's Music - http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in% 20America/devils_music.htm

The Truth about Marilyn Manson - http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in% 20America/marilyn_manson-the_truth.htm

and then there are other links as well - check out Henry Makow's site.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-11-01   6:41:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Red Jones (#1)

The Devil, being the great deceiver, is more likely to be seeking entrance into souls through "Christian rock", not 'Heavy Metal' or rock n roll which doesn't hide its pagan, existential, or hedonist message, no?

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-01   6:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Red Jones (#1) (Edited)

"There is a tendency to dismiss it as the overzealous work of Christian fundamentalists."

This sums up my feelings on he attempt to censor music and free speech by Funlesmentalcase Christian Carrie Nations.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   6:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: JohnGalt (#2)

"The Devil, being the great deceiver, is more likely to be seeking entrance into souls through "Christian rock", not 'Heavy Metal' or rock n roll which doesn't hide its pagan, existential, or hedonist message, no?"

Exactly. Occasionally you would see bubbas thumping bibles screeching hate ad bate in front of Grateful Dead venues and I have little patience with these cretins.

They use their God to set themselves up as the god of censorship through blinders earmuffs and gags. If anything we need to control these free speech intolerant thumpers of Bibles in public spaces if they bring goons to bully people who conversely use their free speech rights to shout back at them.

I fully support the rights if artists from painters, photographers, writers, movie makers, singers and songwriters to do what they do unfettered by zealots.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   7:01:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Red Jones (#0)

I don't discount the fact that some music is intended to satanically seduce the willing, however I think drugs (especially seratonin uptake inhibitors) have a powerful influence in matters such as Columbine.

Secondly, while I called myself a Christian for years after having been reared a Catholic and finding the hypocrisy over bearing, I am now convinced that Christianity itself is simply paganism in a new suit.

Determining the exact causes of murder, suicide or satanism itself is very difficult because our motives are first generated by our hearts. I'm sure we can be and are conditioned by the propagandists in general. We have lost our moral compass and delude ourselves into thinking that those enjoyments particular to ourselves are ok. Rationalizing fraud and wrong headed activity to satisfy our "self" ...

Lastly Red, just to let you know, I diligently study the Scriptures and am in agreement with this simple fact ... whenever I have doubt I immediately refer to Scripture ... knowing God is always right, and I am always wrong.

I know Stan Monteith advertises the Video you mentioned in this article. I have a problem with Monteith because he is a zionist apologist. I think Monteith takes his position in furtherance of a belief that without the commotion being created in Israel there can't be a rapture. No honest and knowledgeable man of God could study the Scriptiral facts without knowing that modern Christianity has and is fomenting and promoting a fraud that is "Killing the Body of Christ" just like the Babylonian Jews did 2000 years ago.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

Samuel Adams

noone222  posted on  2006-11-01   7:02:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

No honest and knowledgeable man of God could study the Scriptiral facts without knowing that modern Christianity has and is fomenting and promoting a fraud that is "Killing the Body of Christ" just like the Babylonian Jews did 2000 years ago.

I'm not as well versed on Scripture, but it is plain for all with eyes to see that the Christian Zionuts are the main factor which is giving sustenance to the Ziocrazies in the Middle East. If this support were to evaporate, the Zionist entity would crumble overnight.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-01   7:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: JohnGalt (#2)

Deception is a tool of evil. that is 4 sure.

here is a nice link I found among the links referred to on Makow's site:

http://www.bibletruths.o rg/living/RockMusic.html

Red Jones  posted on  2006-11-01   7:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike, JohnGalt (#4)

"Christian rock",

I worked Amy Grant once upon a time way back when I was doing the concert security gig. Those people were really nice, but they were also stupid as a storm.

Since we had to keep the aisles clear as a part of our duties, I noticed a guy in the cross aisle talking to someone in the last row toward the front. I went over and told him he could not stand there and to go into the seats to talk.

I walked a few steps and turned around only to see that he had not moved. I walked back over and got up close and said, "Just think of me as your guardian angel, whispering in your ear to tell you right from wrong. MOVE NOW!" All of a sudden that little light bulb came on and he got the message. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-01   7:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Red Jones (#0)

I'd much rather listen to Rock music, than be brainwashed by the pop music extolling the virtues of materialism, or be brainwashed by that pseudo patriotic garbage that Toby Keith preaches in his retarded country music.

ALL music is programming. ALL of it. If you choose your music, choose something that isn't going to offend you. Pretty much all music offends me that comes out of this country. Between rap, pop, hip hop, country, and what passes for rock music these days, the only thing left is classical, and I'd rather listen to that than anything else these days.

The fact that some douchebag is screaming about rock music only means that the lawyers aren't making enough money. Remember the 80's? Remember Rock Music being put on trial by a bunch of asexual harpies who needed something better to do? I remember it very well, and yet there was no outrage about how these meddlers and liars basically ripped off the music industry.

You want to change the culture of America? Turn off your televisions, don't turn on your radio, burn every book, and destroy every piece of media you can find. Destroy it all, and leave nothing to chance because if one person is inspired by something that they heard, read, or saw on TV, it's one person too many. Heaven forbid they read the Constitution and believe that they are entitled to the pursuit of happiness.

What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-11-01   7:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BTP Holdings (#8) (Edited)

Yeah, those people are horse pills in a baby's throat. I have a very piercing voice and can human bullhorn most other people when it is on idle mode. When I liked to sit at Pioneer Square in Portland to read and do informal fashion surveys of young ladies with my eyes screechers blathering away at people like me to "save us" really pissed me off.

I would heckle the jeckles and even made a newbie who was doing this under the buzzard grade watchful eye of the head bother them all, let God sort them out contingent cry and leave after only five or ten minutes of his mission to urinate words into our faces.

They started having people come to get in the personal spaces of people like me who for some strange reason do not consider a moment's peace in the sun and fresh air people watching an excuse to try to piss me off with moon bat grade religious advertising.

I would only be encourages and notch it up and pumped up the volume and made my commentary even more bombastic and sarcastic. When a couple of times they tried to give samples of physical intimidation I would then exaggerate the effect of what they did and had a couple get thirty day exclusions from the square security npeople.

The soon realized that they might think that they were pros, but I showed them how green they were. One who had gotten an exclusion saw me in Tom McCall waterfront park and invited me to go to a secluded part of the place thinking his larger frame and redneck demeanor would shut me down so he could bully me around a bit.

Little did he realize those with me he had dismissed as normal park street people were hard core Portland activists who like me. He went over the rail into the river fifteen feet below the flood wall.

We stayed only long enough to make sure the dip wouldn't drown and left with our day considerably brightened.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   7:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: BTP Holdings (#8)

...and Amy Grant got divorced and remarried. Jessica Simpson came up through the ranks of Christian rock, etc etc. That should be a deeper concern then grown men who put on ridiculous make-up and costumes and write songs about inverted Christianity...one is more honest than the other.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-01   7:47:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: JohnGalt (#11) (Edited)

I like Marilyn Manson. He makes me laugh because I see a goober with a marketing ploy I find fun to watch on rare occasions. People should relax and be sophisticated not to let punked out human male peacocks get them all in a dither.

Here is an up and coming German hip hop group I discovered by accident this week. Mahatmahitler is a scream to watch. German kids doing hip hop with all the trappings of very entertaining theater. Anyone who does not like such groups can vote by not listening to them or buying their product:

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   7:55:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12) (Edited)


Ich liebe diese musik. Liebe meine shmenkey! [My fav Mike Meyers character..LOL]

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



IndieTX  posted on  2006-11-01   8:34:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Red Jones (#0)

The DVD explains how music is the most effective means of brainwashing and mind control, especially if the audience thinks it's listening to spontaneous creative expression. The DVD traces the Satanic message "Do as thou wilt" (formerly "do your own thing") in many songs advocating free sex, drugs, violence, murder and mayhem. You are God! You can do anything you want! There is no inherent moral order based on universal Love and Justice.

This is THE characteristic underlying theme of true Satanism..as in the Satanic Bible Satanism..not to be confused with Pagans, Wiccans, etc. And yes it is pretty obvious the MTV bunch knows that this "stuff" [NOT to be confused with MUSIC] can transfer tendencies, as can TV, books and other media such as movies from Hollyweird. There may be an enlightened few who can listen to it and not be affected, but the majority of folks who listen to this violent stuff, including the violent anarchistic racist rap crap, are indeed quite evil folks and actually live the shit they listen to. But..they do have that right. I also have the right to turn the shit off...which I do...and to blow away any gang bangers who might foolishly attempt to approach me with a bat...or at the very least break their arms and tear both ACL's.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



IndieTX  posted on  2006-11-01   8:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Red Jones (#0)

Sheesh. Here we go again. You'd have thought this silliness died in the sixties or seventies, but nooo. I suppose it's all Dungeons and Dragons related, too.

Here's a clue. The church of Satan is not called the church of Satan. Satan is the great deceiver. The church of Satan calls itself a Christian church, and it is run by an apostate named Hagee. They worship Mammon and Mars.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-01   9:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Red Jones, JohnGalt, Ferret Mike, TommyTheMadArtist (#1)

I grew up listening to this crap from fundie nut jobs.

If ever a Satanic music form existed it is Opera and ballet.

Wagner influenced more killers than Rock music ever did. Stalin and Mao loved the ballet.

Give me Ozzy and Black Sabbath singing 'War Pigs' any day.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-01   9:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Destro (#16)

Give me Ozzy and Black Sabbath singing 'War Pigs' any day.

I believe that you have this already. your mind has obviously been turned over to a reprobate condition. it seems that is the effect of binging on rock & roll music.

unlike what you say classical music has a positive effect on the mind.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-11-01   9:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Red Jones (#17)

unlike what you say classical music has a positive effect on the mind.

I mentioned Opera and ballet not 'classical' though I can see why you can confuse the two (classical is real symphonic orchestral instrumental music).

Wagner influenced more killers than Rock music ever did. Stalin and Mao loved the ballet.

Give me Ozzy and Black Sabbath singing 'War Pigs' any day:

War Pigs

Generals gathered in their masses

Just like witches at black masses

Evil minds that plot destruction

Sorcerers of deaths construction

In the fields the bodies burning

As the war machine keeps turning

Death and hatred to mankind

Poisoning their brainwashed minds, oh lord yeah!

Politicians hide themselves away

They only started the war

Why should they go out to fight?

They leave that role to the poor

Time will tell on their power minds

Making war just for fun

Treating people just like pawns in chess

Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah!

Now in darkness, world stops turning

As the war machine keeps burning

No more war pigs of the power

Hand of God has sturck the hour

Day of judgement, God is calling

On their knees, the war pigs crawling

Begging mercy for their sins

Satan, laughing, spreads his wings

All right now!

-----------

Clearly White Country Music is also of the devil - speaking of shooting your spouse and drinkin' and sexin'

Delia's Gone

Words and Music by Johnny Cash

I went up to Memphis, and I met Delia there

Found her in her parlor, and I tied her to her chair

Delia's gone, one more round, Delia's gone

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-01   10:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Red Jones (#0)

The Satanic roots of many of the band names and media outlets is clear. Abba is short for "A Bunch of Beelzebubs Ad Libbing" and NBC obviously stands for "Navajos Badmouthing Christ".

Minerva  posted on  2006-11-01   10:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Red Jones (#0)

...especially that Satanic country music....

"....And with a little luck, we might just get stuck, let's get a little mud on the tires...."__Brad Paisley

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-11-01   10:31:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Red Jones (#0)

I don't know about Satanism and rock music, but there's definitely something wrong with rap. I was thinking last night as I listened to some rap blasting at an intersection, that I never hear Mozart being blasted from someone's speakers. It's always this loud, angry, aggressive music that seems to be mostly about whoring women and killing other gangstah's.

Rap is crap and I do think it constitutes aural poison.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-11-01   10:36:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mehitable (#21)

Rap is crap

I agree - rap is crap.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-11-01   10:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

This sums up my feelings on (t)he attempt to censor music and free speech by Funlesmentalcase Christian Carrie Nations.

Gee, I must have missed the part where he called for people to burn records and send Marilyn Manson to the gulag.

Other than a few fringe Christians, I haven't seen any one else call for it either.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2006-11-01   13:48:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Bill D Berger (#23)

"Gee, I must have missed the part where he called for people to burn records and send Marilyn Manson to the gulag."

You did note the loss of Posse Comitatus, the increased ease the new law lets Bush nationalize and use the National Guard and declare Martial Law and note that Kellogg brown and Root have built camps to 'house' people incarcerated in round ups after a declaration of martial law I hope.

Your lecture is amusing and ironic. Because while I realize that on the micro level I know that the financial and popularity ruin these people intend is not the gallows and gulag route you chide me on, on the macro level it is precisely what people like Bush and these people by extension wish for these artists, people like them, and people like you and me.

Thanks for the reality check, but I assure you I already knew well what you are saying.

Our troops take an oath promising to protect uswe need to promise to protect them too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   14:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Minerva (#19)

You mean, NBC doesn't mean Numbnuts Buckeroo is Crocked?

Oh my, youu learn something new every day,yes?

Our troops take an oath promising to protect uswe need to promise to protect them too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   14:06:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

You did note the loss of Posse Comitatus, the increased ease the new law lets Bush nationalize and use the National Guard and declare Martial Law and note that Kellogg brown and Root have built camps to 'house' people incarcerated in round ups after a declaration of martial law I hope.

Sure, I know all about it, but I don't see how that applies here.

They're going to lock people up for listening to rap and heavy metal music?

Sorry, I don't see that happening.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2006-11-01   14:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Bill D Berger (#26)

"They're going to lock people up for listening to rap and heavy metal music?

Sorry, I don't see that happening."

My point is I already knew that. I was never seriously saying they intended that in regard to this issue.

Our troops take an oath promising to protect uswe need to promise to protect them too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   14:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#24)

I know that the financial and popularity ruin these people intend is not the gallows and gulag route you chide me on, on the macro level it is precisely what people like Bush and these people by extension wish for these artists,

I seriously doubt that Bush will do anything to ban hevy metal music...he did have Ozzy over for dinner a while back...

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2006-11-01   14:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: All (#28)

Tag line test.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2006-11-01   14:46:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#29)

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During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2006-11-01   14:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Bill D Berger (#28)

"I seriously doubt that Bush will do anything to ban heavy metal music...he did have Ozzy over for dinner a while back... "

Heh, I'm sure he likes Kerry personally too. But that doesn't stop him from doing the junkyard dog slash and trash rhetorical tactics in his desperation to keep Republican control of the Congress on his Skull and Bones brother.

Bush is a deceitful back stabber who will do whatever suits his hunger for political power and influence. And if that means having Ozzy to a White House dinner, then letting fundie religious cultural cannibals have him for dinner because it is a means to an end, he's willing to do it and not be bothered at all by that sort of thing.

Our troops take an oath promising to protect uswe need to promise to protect them too.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-01   15:09:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#31)

maybe Bush had Ozzie for dinner because he likes the satanic message of Ozzie's music.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-11-01   15:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: mehitable (#21)

I went to see Mozart's Don Giovanni the other night.

I realized one of the reasons why he couldn't get a steady paying gig and spent his life (14 hours a day) standing a desk writing music.

His characters are always throwing out political lines. "Who could believe that a nobleman could do something so dishonorable?" and "Those that do evil will be punished in this world."

He also has his anti-hero Don Giovanni, the career serial rapist, (Don Juan in Spanish) raise a toast "liberta" in a jibe to those of his generation that confounded liberty with license.

I have no use for "rock." It is the death of American music. It provides the anthems of a come-to-nothing generation in this country.

Look around you.

randge  posted on  2006-11-01   17:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: randge (#33)

To: mehitable

I went to see Mozart's Don Giovanni the other night.

I realized one of the reasons why he couldn't get a steady paying gig and spent his life (14 hours a day) standing a desk writing music.

His characters are always throwing out political lines. "Who could believe that a nobleman could do something so dishonorable?" and "Those that do evil will be punished in this world."

He also has his anti-hero Don Giovanni, the career serial rapist, (Don Juan in Spanish) raise a toast "liberta" in a jibe to those of his generation that confounded liberty with license.

I have no use for "rock." It is the death of American music. It provides the anthems of a come-to-nothing generation in this country.

Look around you.

What I see when I look around me is degeneracy, in the Arts and elsewhere. Degeneracy meaning that the standards have degenerated over the decades and that the level of skill and ability needed to produce "art", whether musical, or literary, or visual, or cinematic, have deteriorated to a state where virtually no genuine ability is required to be an artist. Whatever natural ability individuals possess is not honed or polished through the application of discipline or learning of various methods or procedures acquired over the...well, sometimes, centuries. Any idiot who can bang on a garbage can while screaming rhymes is now an "artist".

I see a loss of standards, an unwillingness to judge (which requires standards to measure by), and a lack of accountability. Whatever anyone wants to call art, is.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-11-01   17:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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