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Title: Michael Ledeen: Has the President Made a Conscious Decision Not to Act on Iran?
Source: American Enterprise Institute
URL Source: http://www.aei.org/publications/fil ... all,pubID.25080/pub_detail.asp
Published: Nov 1, 2006
Author: Michael A. Ledeen
Post Date: 2006-11-01 12:56:46 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 194
Comments: 14

If the president knows that Iran is waging war on us, he is obliged to respond; the only appropriate question is about the method, not the substance. If he does not know, then he should remove those officials who were obliged to tell him, and get some people who will tell the truth. They are not entitled to withhold information on the grounds that they don’t like the obvious policy implications. He must have that information, and he must be able to get more of it. The people in high positions of the intelligence community have demonstrably acted to limit his full knowledge of the war; the refusal to accept further information from proven sources of reliable information on Iran, all by itself, warrants a significant purge of Intelligence officials. As Bob Woodward suggests in State of Denial, there has been much more of that.

Freedom Scholar Michael Ledeen 
Freedom Scholar Michael A. Ledeen
 
It is more likely that the president knows we are at war with Iran, but has chosen--wrongly, in my opinion (but then I wasn’t elected either)--to delay our response. That could be due to any number of reasons, ranging from a belief that he had to give the Europeans every chance to force the Iranians to abandon their nuclear project, to purely domestic calculations that he lacks sufficient political capital to directly challenge the mullahs. But whatever his reasoning, it reinforces the original failure of strategic vision that has characterized the Iraqi and Afghan enterprises from the beginning. Once you see that Iraq and Afghanistan are battlefields in a larger war, you must figure out how to win that war, and not the one that was drawn up on PowerPoint before the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom, based on the false assumption that we would fight a series of limited wars, one country at a time.

At a minimum, the real war is a regional war, and most likely a world war. That becomes obvious as soon as you see that Iran, sometimes in tandem with Syria and with covert help from Saudi Arabia, is waging war on us in Iraq and Afghanistan, and sponsoring terrorist assaults against us and our allies from Lebanon to Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine, with their preferred instrument, Hezbollah, as the organizing army. But our national debate, with the exception of rare men like Senator Santorum, is limited to Iraq and Afghanistan alone, and thus our war plan is wrongly limited to Iraq and Afghanistan alone. If we expand our vision to the Middle East, current “hot topics” dissolve, because they are only urgent in answer to the wrong question. Instead of asking, “How do we win in Iraq and Afghanistan (and these are foolishly treated as if they were separate issues)?” we must instead ask, “How do we win the real war, the war against the terror masters?”

Iraq and Afghanistan are part of that war, but only a part of it. And we cannot win in Iraq and Afghanistan so long as the terror masters in Tehran and Damascus have a free shot at us and our democratic partners in Iraq, Lebanon, Afghanistan, and Israel, which is the current situation.

The debate over the appropriate number of American troops in Iraq is a typical example of how our failure of strategic vision distorts our ability to win the war. So long as the terror masters’ killers can freely cross the borders from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Iran in order to deliver money, weapons, expertise, and manpower, it is hard to imagine that any conceivable number of American soldiers could defeat them.

Lacking a regional strategy, our military is essentially fighting a holding action in Iraq and Afghanistan, and there is clearly a premium on avoiding casualties. Some critics have noticed that we have created large bases, complete with astonishing creature comforts including air conditioned tents and Starbucks cafes. The soldiers on those bases are rarely in the field; they wait until they get good intelligence about enemy movements, and then go after them. But that is not the proper way to fight this sort of war, and probably not even the best way to hold down casualties.

The best book I know on counterinsurgency was written by a Frenchman, David Galula, after his experiences in Algeria in the 1950s. He stresses that such a war is won or lost on the basis of popular support and cooperation. If the population supports the insurgents, they will win. Therefore, effective counterinsurgency requires the constant engagement of soldiers with the people, and a durable demonstration that we are there to stay, that once an area has been taken by our forces, it will remain so. That is also the best way to get good intelligence.

But time and again, we have moved into an area, killed lots of terrorists, and created a momentary stability, only to move on. This permits the terrorists to come back in, kill anyone who cooperated or sympathized with us, and compel the survivors to join the insurgency. The monster bases underline the distance between our troops and the people, which is precisely the opposite of a winning strategy. Galula puts the issue nicely: “As the war lasts, the war itself becomes the central issue, and the ideological advantage of the insurgent decreases considerably. The population’s attitude is dictated not by the intrinsic merits of the contending causes, but by the answer to these two simple questions: Which side is going to win? Which side threatens the most, and which offers the most protection?”

But the only way we can demonstrate we are going to win is to defeat the terror masters. Without that, the populations of Iraq and Afghanistan are entitled to doubt our ability to defeat the terrorists. And it is utterly misleading to claim that we will eventually be able to entrust the future of the war to Iraqi and Afghan forces. They cannot win a war by fighting on their own territory alone, any more than we can, no matter how effective they turn out to be.

The hell of it is that we act as if Iran and Syria were imposing regional forces, whereas they are actually very brittle dictatorships. Their tyrants are under constant pressure from their own people, and despite the run-up in oil revenues, both countries are in abysmal economic shape. The Japanese have just withdrawn their participation in a major Iranian oil field, in large part because of the high political risk.

Cheerful reports from captive Western journalists suggest that the likes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are popular leaders, but first hand accounts from emigres and bloggers tell a very different story, and there are even online photographs attesting to substantial recent protests against the Iranian president. Like Ahmadinejad, Bashar Assad is not only unpopular, but has become an object of ridicule throughout the region, and there is every reason to believe that Western support for democratic revolution could succeed in both countries. Certainly, both Iran and Syria meet every criterion for social, economic and political revolution: the regimes are hated and despised, the people are suffering, and the denial of elementary human rights is a constant prod to revolt.

Revolutions rarely succeed without an outside base of support; just ask George Washington. Yet there is a regrettable tendency for our policymakers to dream that the Iranians will do it all by themselves. This is bad analysis, and worse policy. If, as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tells us, we do believe in spreading democracy in the Middle East, Iran is, and always has been, the best place to start. Nothing would help the prospects for a reasonable solution to the Arab-Israeli crisis so much as the downfall of the Tehran regime and its Siamese twin in Damascus. Indeed, like Iraq and Afghanistan, it is impossible to imagine freedom and security for the Palestinians so long as Khamanei and his ilk rule in Iran, and the Assad family dictatorships reigns in Syria.

But these considerations belong to a strategy to win the real war. As far as I can tell, we are very far from seeing the war plain and devising ways to win it. The first step is to embrace the unpleasant fact that we are at war with Iran, and it is long past time to respond.

Michael A. Ledeen is the Freedom Scholar at AEI. (1 image)

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

With what Army, you neo-con shill gas bag?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-11-01   12:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

The people in high positions of the intelligence community have demonstrably acted to limit his full knowledge of the war; the refusal to accept further information from proven sources of reliable information on Iran, all by itself, warrants a significant purge of Intelligence officials.

The idea of "purges" as a problem solving solution comes too easily to Mikey - must be imprinted in his DNA.

This is the chickenhawk slut who coined the phrase "faster, faster" to refer to his IsraelFirster desire to have the US attack Iran.

Iran-Contra machinations,forging of the Niger yellow cake docs...where do the bread crumbs lead?

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-01   13:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

The first step is to embrace the unpleasant fact that we are at war with Iran,

"WE" is Israel, so let the Jews fight it out with Iran, best man wins.

No more American blood for Israel.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-11-01   13:27:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S, *US is Proxy State For Israel* (#0)

At a minimum, the real war is a regional war, and most likely a world war. That becomes obvious as soon as you see that Iran, sometimes in tandem with Syria and with covert help from Saudi Arabia, is waging war on us in Iraq and Afghanistan, and sponsoring terrorist assaults against us and our allies from Lebanon to Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine, with their preferred instrument, Hezbollah, as the organizing army.

And Ledeen has done his part to make sure that's what happens.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-01   13:46:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#0)

If the president knows that Iran is waging war on us, he is obliged to respond; the only appropriate question is about the method, not the substance. If he does not know, then he should remove those officials who were obliged to tell him, and get some people who will tell the truth. They are not entitled to withhold information on the grounds that they don’t like the obvious policy implications ---------------------------- The first step is to embrace the unpleasant fact that we are at war with Iran, and it is long past time to respond.

The fact that he's referred to as "the Freedom Scholar" borders on the obscene.

Isn't there a logical fallacy of some kind that covers what he describes in the first paragraph? He's taking it as understood and accepted that we're at war with Iran. His last sentence, besides the grotesque "embrace the unpleasant fact that we are at war with Iran" continues that, and nowhere does he actually offer an evidence that we actually are, in fact, at war with Iran. Since Iran is a state entity, it would be rather easy to make it so (have Congress simply declare that a state of war exists between the US and Iran.)

" At a minimum, the real war is a regional war, and most likely a world war" I think that I need to remove the wonderful MacBaren's Scottish Blend from my pipe, and get some of whatever Ledeen is smoking. Most likely a world war? The actual level of threat to the US and our interests doesn't even really rise to the level of "border skirmish." I notice that he talks about how all these other countries are attacking us-in places that are not the United States. I'd feel a bit different about the level of threat of Iran and the urgency of action if some Iranian terrorist group or some other group using the tactic of the weak at the behest of the nebulous "terror masters" in say, Omaha, rather than Bagdad. The ignored implication is that the reason we're being attacked in Iraq by the proxies of the "terror masters" is because we're there, but Ledeen doesn't seem to want to take his argument to that level.

I've read a bit of Ledeen's ahem, work, and I've finally found something that he's written that I can agree with. His middle paragraphs describe 4th Generation War very well, and the limitations of normal ideas about the use of firepower. But, it goes off the rails when he says "But the only way we can demonstrate we are going to win is to defeat the terror masters. Without that, the populations of Iraq and Afghanistan are entitled to doubt our ability to defeat the terrorists." To provide stability in Iraq and Afghanistan, we don't have to demonstrate the ability to defeat the terrorists anymore than we have to demonstrate that we can make an energy efficient toaster. My Russian exwife once told me that living in the Soviet Union was bad, but at least, prior to 1991, you knew that when you went to the market to get beef, that it was beef. The innocuous statement got me thinking about human nature. You can't tell a starving man that he's better off now because, even though he's got no food, and you're not going to provide any, but at least he can vote. I've come up with a maxim that I use to frame people's responses: In general, people prefer to be alive rather than dead, and will take actions that will usually allow them to remain the former rather than the latter. So Ledeen's quote from another book about which side is going to win, and who provides the most protection is dead on. The citizens of Iraq have to constantly hedge their bets because they have to live there. If we leave and they're noted to be collaborators, they are going to die. If they actively help the insurgency, they're probably going to die. If you reluctantly deal with both sides, you probably will live. So, you grudgingly allow both sides to do what they will, while trying to shield your teenage children of both genders from the males on both sides.

historian1944  posted on  2006-11-01   13:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Brian S (#0)

I thought this 20 year old look at Ledeen was interesting. James Woolsey, fellow super neocon, was his lawyer for Iran contra.

Key Iran-Contra Figure Ledeen Might Not Testify; Scheduled Hill Appearance by Former NSC Consultant on Terrorism Postponed

From: The Washington Post

 | Date: July 5, 1987

 | Author: Charles R. Babcock

 | More results for: Michael Ledeen and iran

As the Iran-contra hearings enter their final month and attention focuses on the role of White House and Cabinet players, it is becoming unlikely that Michael A. Ledeen, a key figure in the 1985 U.S. approach to Iran, will testify in public.

Ledeen, a National Security Council consultant at the time, has said he is eager to testify because of allegations that he profited from the arms sales he helped arrange through Israeli officials.

A scheduled appearance by Ledeen was postponed, however, although his name continues to surface in the hearings and is likely to do so again this week with the long-awaited testimony of Marine Lt. Col. Oliver L. North.

North's former secretary, Fawn Hall, and Noel Koch, a former Pentagon official, have testified that Ledeen's main function as a consultant on terrorism seemed to be to visit NSC and Pentagon offices and read classified reports on terrorism.

Hall testified, "I think that Mr. Ledeen mostly came to the office to read . . . the phone calls that came in, basically, were to say, `Hey, I'm going to stop by today and read.' " She said he read daily and monthly Defense Intelligence Agency reports on terrorism as well as reports on how the United States had responded to various terrorist incidents.

Koch said he did not consider Ledeen to be an expert on terrorism and stopped using him as a Pentagon consultant. "There was a period in which, for reasons that I thought were good and sufficient, I stopped letting him read our-the classified, as a consultant, and immediately I stopped-he stopped coming around," Koch said.

In a phone interview last week Koch would not elaborate on what he meant by "good and sufficient" reasons because "this may become the subject of a separate investigation." He declined to be more specific.

But sources familiar with the investigations said that Koch has told both the congressional committees, in a sworn deposition, and investigators for independent counsel Lawrence E. Walsh that one of the reasons he became concerned was that Ledeen started asking for classified debriefing reports of a Libyan defector.

Ledeen said through his attorney, R. James Woolsey, that he did not recall asking Koch about any such defector reports. Woolsey said his client considered reduction in his Pentagon clearance to "secret" in early 1985 as a "routine administrative matter" because he had a clearance of "top secret and more" for his NSC work.

Ledeen described his consulting duties, Woolsey said, as making suggestions and sometimes writing Pentagon reports on terrorism and "talking to foreign experts, including some government officials" for the NSC.

Ledeen has listed himself as an expert on terrorism while a fellow at the Georgetown University Center for Strategic and International Studies. He served as a special assistant to then-Secretary of State Alexander M. Haig Jr. in 1981 and 1982, and later as a consultant, but not on terrorism, according to officials who dealt with the issue.

He was hired as a consultant to the Pentagon in 1983 and to the NSC by the national security adviser Robert C. McFarlane in late 1984. It was while a consultant to McFarlane and North in early 1985 that he traveled to Israel to ask then-Prime Minister Shimon Peres about intelligence on Iran.

For the rest of the year he played a key role in setting up a relationship between the U.S. government and Iranian intermediary Manucher Ghorbanifar.

Koch testified last week that North told him Ledeen negotiated the wrong price for a shipment of U.S.-made antitank missiles from Israel to Iran. "He had screwed it up," was how North described Ledeen's actions, Koch testified.

Ledeen told National Public Radio last week that he had nothing to do with negotiating missile prices and that Koch "didn't know what he was talking about."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-01   14:10:53 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#0)

Has the President Made a Conscious Decision Not to Act on Iran?

Correction: Has the President Made a Conscious Decision To Buck the Jewish Lobby?

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-01   14:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

Koch testified last week that North told him Ledeen negotiated the wrong price for a shipment of U.S.-made antitank missiles from Israel to Iran. "He had screwed it up," was how North described Ledeen's actions, Koch testified.

Nice find!

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-01   15:09:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluegrass (#7)

Correction: Has the President Made a Conscious Decision To Buck the Jewish Lobby?

Let's hope so. GWB is not running for re-election. He does not need the Lobby's $ for running a campaign. He is not beholden to the Lobby's ilk in MSM to give him support.

I think you may be onto to something. The next 2 years George will be concentrating on his legacy, his place in American history ( Israelis' fond memories of George do not count)- starting a 3rd war would not be a wise choice and I think George realizes that.

As dumb as he comes off in press conferences, I suspect some of that is role playing, Rove's coaching him to be a guy next door with whom you'd want to share a beer at the neighborhood pub. George is a political animal with a sizeable ego. He is thinking about positioning himself well in AMERICAN history textbooks. The IsraelFirsters - like Ledeen - are obviously nervous that they are losing control of GWB.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-01   15:22:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Brian S (#0)

At a minimum, the real war is a regional war, and most likely a world war. That becomes obvious as soon as you see that Iran, sometimes in tandem with Syria and with covert help from Saudi Arabia, is waging war on us in Iraq and Afghanistan, and sponsoring terrorist assaults against us and our allies from Lebanon to Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine, with their preferred instrument, Hezbollah, as the organizing army. But our national debate, with the exception of rare men like Senator Santorum, is limited to Iraq and Afghanistan alone, and thus our war plan is wrongly limited to Iraq and Afghanistan alone. If we expand our vision to the Middle East, current “hot topics” dissolve, because they are only urgent in answer to the wrong question. Instead of asking, “How do we win in Iraq and Afghanistan (and these are foolishly treated as if they were separate issues)?” we must instead ask, “How do we win the real war, the war against the terror masters?

Geeeezus H!!!

Oh... is it okay to say 'Geeeeeezus' when discussing this guy's product?

The guy seems to be possessed by... something, not clear to me what but I hope it doesn't spread through the Net. I'll make sure that I am never within a mile from him. It's interesting that the AEI, apparently, has this one on their payroll so he actually gets paid for writing this nonsense.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2006-11-01   15:22:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#10)

I'll make sure that I am never within a mile from him. It's interesting that the AEI, apparently, has this one on their payroll so he actually gets paid for writing this nonsense.

Mikey is one sick war mongering puppy. He is the AEI - he is that organization's perfect symbol. If you want to read more about Comrade Mikey, here's a nice biographical sketch of him with live links and connections to fellow AEI travellers. No worries about Mike living within a mile of you unless you live in a gated community in the DC environs.

http://rightweb.irc- online.org/profile/1261

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-01   15:29:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: scrapper2 (#9)

The IsraelFirsters - like Ledeen - are obviously nervous that they are losing control of GWB.

Check out the latest from James Petras. It's a read but well worth it.

Texas Versus Tel Aviv: US Policy in the Middle East

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-01   15:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, scrapper2 (#10)

Michael Ledeen's Public Lies.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-01   15:34:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: bluegrass (#12)

That's an excellent read & pulls no punches.

Baker's going to be hard up against it. It's gonna be "come to Jesus" time for the Ziocons. They are not going to like it one bit. 2006-2007 is going to be one rough ride.

randge  posted on  2006-11-01   16:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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