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Title: TIME FOR RUMSFELD TO GO (ARMY TIMES, NAVY TIMES, AIR FORCE TIMES, MARINE CORPS TIMES)
Source: MSNBC (FROM ARMY TIMES)
URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15552388/
Published: Nov 3, 2006
Author: MILITARY TIMES EDITORIAL BOARD
Post Date: 2006-11-03 23:31:52 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 330
Comments: 28

Text of editorial calling for Rumsfeld to go

Publications catering to the military will call Monday for secretary’s ouster

MSNBC
Updated: 1 hour, 12 minutes ago

This editorial will appear in the Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times on Monday under the headline “Time for Rumsfeld to go”:

"So long as our government requires the backing of an aroused and informed public opinion ... it is necessary to tell the hard bruising truth."

That statement was written by Pulitzer Prize-winning war correspondent Marguerite Higgins more than a half-century ago during the Korean War.

But until recently, the "hard bruising" truth about the Iraq war has been difficult to come by from leaders in Washington. One rosy reassurance after another has been handed down by President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: "mission accomplished," the insurgency is "in its last throes," and "back off," we know what we're doing, are a few choice examples.

Military leaders generally toed the line, although a few retired generals eventually spoke out from the safety of the sidelines, inciting criticism equally from anti-war types, who thought they should have spoken out while still in uniform, and pro-war foes, who thought the generals should have kept their critiques behind closed doors.

Now, however, a new chorus of criticism is beginning to resonate. Active-duty military leaders are starting to voice misgivings about the war's planning, execution and dimming prospects for success.

Army Gen. John Abizaid, chief of U.S. Central Command, told a Senate Armed Services Committee in September: "I believe that the sectarian violence is probably as bad as I've seen it ... and that if not stopped, it is possible that Iraq could move towards civil war."

Last week, someone leaked to The New York Times a Central Command briefing slide showing an assessment that the civil conflict in Iraq now borders on "critical" and has been sliding toward "chaos" for most of the past year. The strategy in Iraq has been to train an Iraqi army and police force that could gradually take over for U.S. troops in providing for the security of their new government and their nation.

But despite the best efforts of American trainers, the problem of molding a viciously sectarian population into anything resembling a force for national unity has become a losing proposition.

For two years, American sergeants, captains and majors training the Iraqis have told their bosses that Iraqi troops have no sense of national identity, are only in it for the money, don't show up for duty and cannot sustain themselves.

Meanwhile, colonels and generals have asked their bosses for more troops. Service chiefs have asked for more money.

And all along, Rumsfeld has assured us that things are well in hand.

Now, the president says he'll stick with Rumsfeld for the balance of his term in the White House.

This is a mistake.

It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation's current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads.

These officers have been loyal public promoters of a war policy many privately feared would fail. They have kept their counsel private, adhering to more than two centuries of American tradition of subordination of the military to civilian authority.

And although that tradition, and the officers' deep sense of honor, prevent them from saying this publicly, more and more of them believe it.

Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt.

This is not about the midterm elections. Regardless of which party wins Nov. 7, the time has come, Mr. President, to face the hard bruising truth:

Donald Rumsfeld must go.

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#2. To: aristeides (#0)

His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt.

Donald Rumsfeld must go.

Does anyone really believe replacing Rumsfeld will make any difference whatsoever?

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-03   23:37:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: scrapper2 (#2)

Does anyone really believe replacing Rumsfeld will make any difference whatsoever?

No. This is just byzantine intrigue and political manuevering among Beltway elites. Rummy's "running of the war" is just an excuse to get rid of him. As with everything in DC- the real reasons for firings or resignations are hidden from us and the public reasons given have little to do with reality.

By the way- All of these military publications: Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times - are owned and published by ONE COMPANY- the Gannett corporation- the largest newspaper owner in the country and isn't too shabby with TV station ownership either.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-04   10:21:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Burkeman1, aristedes, tom007, Fred Mertz, robin (#13)

By the way- All of these military publications: Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times and Marine Corps Times - are owned and published by ONE COMPANY- the Gannett corporation- the largest newspaper owner in the country and isn't too shabby with TV station ownership either.

Well thank you, burkeman, for that heads up about Gannett.

So the "Army Times" is not owned by say the Army ( as one would expect) - it is owned by a civilian owned media giant corporation? So what you have revealed is that there is no there there.

This article is a "canned" message brought to you and me and in particular directed at the cannon fodder and their kin who seem to be getting a bit nervous as of late and doubting "the mission" - this message is being delivered by the same PTB, no doubt sanctioned by DC chickenhawk punks who thrust us into this useless war "mission" in the first place. Nice. Well heck if the sheeple and the cannon fodder are willing to be fooled over and over and over again, can you blame the evil ones for making use of us willing victims?

http://projects.wash ingtonpost.com/post200/2006/GCI/

Gannett Corporate information for those who care to read further...

Oh yes Iraq is all rumdums fault - help is on the way - why a new Secty of Defense will make all the difference in the world, you wait and see - heck let's not wait, let's just go invade Iran, take on a new mission, especially when we get those fine warriors known as the Dimwit Party elected into holding the majority in both houses, I'm sure everything will just work out fine. March on...

P.S. the only beltway gossip I read in December 2004 January 2005 about RumDum being more of a useless tool than anyone who would replace him is that RumDum was a) vehemently opposed to the draft and b) he was not interested in taking on Iran since the military had their hands full with Iraq and Afghanistan.

That's why the neocons have been dumping on RumDum 24/7 since December of 2004.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-04   15:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: scrapper2 (#17)

This article is a "canned" message brought to you and me and in particular directed at the cannon fodder and their kin who seem to be getting a bit nervous as of late and doubting "the mission" - this message is being delivered by the same PTB, no doubt sanctioned by DC chickenhawk punks who thrust us into this useless war "mission" in the first place.

Basically, yes. This "editorial" is just a veiled chickenhawk attack on Rummy, who- as you pointed out- is not warmongering enough for the Neo-whores and their beltway warmonger allies who want to attack Iran. It no more reflects the opinion of the armed servies or anyone in it, unless by coincidence, than NOW represents the views of American men.

Gannett, by the way, is infamous as a DOD propanganda conduit. They were the ones who coordinated the publishing of fake "letters home" from the troops that were published in the small town papers they own. It was the same letter- basically saying all was well in Iraq and how great things were going- just signed under different names.

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