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Title: Haggard: 'I am a deceiver and a liar' [Haggard Cons Goobers Into Forgiving Him in Less Than 24 Hours]
Source: LA Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/la-na-haggard6nov06,0,1687759,print.story
Published: Nov 6, 2006
Author: Stephanie Simon
Post Date: 2006-11-06 00:54:41 by Morgana le Fay
Keywords: None
Views: 974
Comments: 82

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. -- In the hush of a Sunday morning, 9,000 believers grieved, struggled and forgave as their pastor, the Rev. Ted Haggard, confessed his sins.

"I am a deceiver and a liar," Haggard told his followers in a letter read from the pulpit of New Life Church by one of his spiritual mentors. "There's a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it for all of my adult life."

Men rubbed at their eyes. Women clung to one another. A grandfather hugged his baby grandson. Haggard had founded this church in his basement. He had grown it to a congregation of 14,000. He had guided them to God and helped them triumph over sin, and he had done it always with a smile, ever exuberant, ever strong.

They wept to hear what he'd been hiding.

"For extended periods of time, I would enjoy victory and rejoice in freedom," Haggard wrote. "Then, from time to time, the dirt that I thought was gone would resurface, and I would find myself thinking thoughts and experiencing desires that were contrary to everything I believe and teach."

A male prostitute in Denver came forward last week claiming that Haggard had visited his apartment almost monthly over the past three years for sex and drugs. Haggard at first denied it. Then he said he bought meth from the man, but threw it away. On Sunday, he said this: "The accusations that have been leveled against me are not all true, but enough of them are true that I have been appropriately and lovingly removed from ministry."

Having resigned the presidency of the National Association of Evangelicals and been dismissed as senior pastor of New Life, Haggard said he and his wife, Gayle, "need to be gone for a while." He pledged to put himself under the guidance of several pastors who will help him work toward restoration.

"Please forgive me," he wrote. "I am so embarrassed and ashamed.... I am a sinner. I have fallen."

Then the Rev. Larry Stockstill, a Louisiana pastor, read aloud a short letter from Gayle Haggard. She said her heart was broken, but she promised to stand by her husband.

"For those of you who have been concerned that my marriage was so perfect I could not possibly relate to the women who are facing great difficulties, know that this will never again be the case," she wrote, evoking a ripple of laughter. "My test has begun; watch me. I will try to prove myself faithful."

The congregation rose as one. For a long minute, they stood, applauding, hugging, sniffling. Interim senior pastor Ross Parsley bounded to the podium. "Listen," he said, "we all feel worse than we did a week ago. But we were worse off a week ago. Today, we all are more obedient, more repentant, more transparent than we've been in a long time."

Here and there in the vast sanctuary, members of Haggard's congregation called out: "Amen."

Afterward, in the lobby, many worshipers echoed Parsley's words. Some were angry at Pastor Ted; many were bewildered. But all said that their faith was not shaken; it was renewed. They would hold fast to all Haggard had taught them over the years, including his preaching that homosexual behavior is an affront to God.

"He believes that what he taught us is true," said Carol Groesbeck, 61.

"I don't think there's anything that needs to be re-evaluated," put in her husband, Jim, 61, an elder at New Life. "We know what we believe, but it's difficult to live that out. That's not just Ted's struggle. It's our struggle."

Michelle Gatson, 37, said she felt reinvigorated by the service after a week that left her so spent, all she wanted to do was "be lying on the floor at home, crying." A member of the choir, she said she found healing in the songs of praise -- praise not for any man, but for God. "I love my pastor," she said. "But I'm glad I didn't put my faith in him. He's human."

Added Ian Kallenbach, 26: "I hope he can deal with his demons."

Stockstill -- who has been the Haggards' personal pastor for years -- said he saw only relief in Ted Haggard's face when he informed him on Saturday that he was being removed from his position at New Life.

Haggard had been struggling for three years to balance his duties as pastor with the high-profile role as head of the evangelical association -- a job that raised his political profile and got him invited to the Oval Office and in on conference calls with the White House.

Haggard had tried to carve out time to reflect and to write his books by secluding himself now and then in a Denver hotel. That is apparently when he first contacted the prostitute, Mike Jones, who advertised as a masseur in gay magazines.

Haggard alluded to this period in his letter, saying that his pride had prevented him from seeking counseling; he hadn't wanted to disappoint those who loved him. "When I stopped communicating about my problems," he wrote, "the darkness increased and finally dominated me."

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#2. To: Morgana le Fay (#0)

This is more proof that the churches of this country need a major reformation. Meaning... The corrupt elements of every house of God should be purged from the pulpits.

Why this douchebag is still preaching is beyond me, and what's worse is that now that the jackass is forgiven, he'll be right back at fleecing the flock.

More money will be what is needed to save him from himself right??? This is exactly why every church should be taxed, and every church treated like the business is REALLY is. The business of religion isn't about saving people, it's about more wealth confiscation.

Today the Democrats had some blowhole in a church and every single one of the people in the audience had Harold Ford's name on a sign that says "For U.S. Senate." Tell me that there isn't a conflict of interest. What was worse, was Beelzebubba Clinton was in the front fucking row.

Jesus Christ would vomit if he saw what was happening in these churces. Between that dickhead Mac Hammond, and now this crap, Jesus would be ill from it.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-11-06   3:06:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)

Why this douchebag is still preaching is beyond me, and what's worse is that now that the jackass is forgiven, he'll be right back at fleecing the flock.

According to the article, he's no longer a pastor or president with the church, so that shouldn't be an issue. The basic truth within christianity is that all of us have failed and are prone to continuing to do so, and what's needed is repentence and humility with regard to our failings. Completely separate from that is accountability in positions of church leadership.

Only God knows the heart of Haggarty, but on it's face it appears he was humble enough to admit his failings, albeit after initially denying the accusations, and also graciously accept his complete demotion within the church. From a christian perspective, that's all that can be reasonably asked for.

More money will be what is needed to save him from himself right??? This is exactly why every church should be taxed, and every church treated like the business is REALLY is. The business of religion isn't about saving people, it's about more wealth confiscation.

I agree churches should not be tax exempt, but they are not businesses either (real churches, anyway). They should be treated the same as any free association of people. Like any private club.

Today the Democrats had some blowhole in a church and every single one of the people in the audience had Harold Ford's name on a sign that says "For U.S. Senate."

Legally speaking, requiring people to forfeit their speech & press rights in order to exercise their religious rights doesn't wash, so individual people could hardly be required to not bring signs and t-shirts into a church. I'm assuming they are not turning away people who might bring signs for an opposing candidate. But current civil law aside, churches should have the moral right to endorse candidates freely, but the vast majority of them have chosen 503 status which makes them take orders from the IRS first instead of God. No church should be 501 c3.

Jesus Christ would vomit if he saw what was happening in these churces.

Perhaps you know that Jesus says some churches do or would make him do exactly that. Mentioned in Rev, chapter 3 I think. (Some say the letters to the seven churches, in which Jesus makes this comment about one of them, is actually refering to 7 eras of the christian church).

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-11-06   9:19:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Neil McIver (#7)

Mark my words Neil, the guy will be back in the pulpit. His own parishners will bring him back. It's today's Jimmy Swaggart.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-11-06   9:21:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#8)

Mark my words Neil, the guy will be back in the pulpit. His own parishners will bring him back. It's today's Jimmy Swaggart.

And why should this bother you so........if God forgives the man, and 'his' own parisheners do and have him come back? Do you believe he should answer to you? To them? To God?........or you prefer he kill himself or ?

rowdee  posted on  2006-11-06   12:18:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: rowdee (#21)

Maybe you should read the book of Leviticus from the old testament about what God thinks of his behavior. How about what Jesus said about people causing others to sin, something about a Millstone Around Their Neck???

It's not my place to forgive anyone, that's God's job. The issue here isn't about whether or not I would prefer he kill himself, the issue is this. We've seen all of this before. We've seen it time and time again. Only this time it is much more egregious, and if you're one of his parishners, that is your problem. Who cares if the other people forgive him? Who cares if God forgives him?

The man is a blight on organized religion, just as Organized Religion is an offense to God.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-11-06   18:18:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#70)

I have read Leviticus, as well as numerous other books of the Bible, so yes I am aware of the abomination of homosexuality, and adultery. Causing people to stumble is also bad, of course. And at this point in time, my mere saying something here would/could be pointed out by someone as causing them to go astray....context is a lot.

I agree and have said repeatedly the man has done much harm to religion, Christianity in particular.

I wouldn't necessarily agree about the 'organized religion being an offense to God', but rather would agree that man made traditions are an offense. Jesus essentially said this when he called the Pharisees hypocrits for their man made traditions.

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#73. To: rowdee (#72)

If you look at what is happening in America's churches, and looking at what they do and don't do for their communities, and see just how much money they're raking in, you would understand my commentary on organized religion.

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