[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help] 

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

These Are The Most Stolen Cars In Every US State

Earth Changes Summary - June 2025: Extreme Weather, Planetary Upheaval,

China’s Tofu-Dreg High-Speed Rail Station Ceiling Suddenly Floods, Steel Bars Snap

Russia Moves to Nationalize Country's Third Largest Gold Mining Firm

Britain must prepare for civil war | David Betz

The New MAGA Turf War Over National Intelligence

Happy fourth of july

The Empire Has Accidentally Caused The Rebirth Of Real Counterculture In The West

Workers install 'Alligator Alcatraz' sign for Florida immigration detention center

The Biggest Financial Collapse in China’s History Is Here, More Terrifying Than Evergrande!

Lightning

Cash Jordan NYC Courthouse EMPTIED... ICE Deports 'Entire Building

Trump Sparks Domestic Labor Renaissance: Native-Born Workers Surge To Record High As Foreign-Born Plunge

Mister Roberts (1965)

WE BROKE HIM!! [Early weekend BS/nonsense thread]

I'm going to send DOGE after Elon." -Trump

This is the America I grew up in. We need to bring it back

MD State Employee may get Arrested by Sheriff for reporting an Illegal Alien to ICE

RFK Jr: DTaP vaccine was found to have link to Autism

FBI Agents found that the Chinese manufactured fake driver’s licenses and shipped them to the U.S. to help Biden...

Love & Real Estate: China’s new romance scam

Huge Democrat shift against Israel stuns CNN

McCarthy Was Right. They Lied About Everything.

How Romans Built Domes

My 7 day suspension on X was lifted today.

They Just Revealed EVERYTHING... [Project 2029]

Trump ACCUSED Of MASS EXECUTING Illegals By DUMPING Them In The Ocean

The Siege (1998)

Trump Admin To BAN Pride Rainbow Crosswalks, DoT Orders ALL Distractions REMOVED

Elon Musk Backing Thomas Massie Against Trump-AIPAC Challenger


Editorial
See other Editorial Articles

Title: Signs of the Times Editorial: Post-Election Reality Check
Source: Signs of the Times
URL Source: http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs ... 8_PostElectionRealityCheck.php
Published: Nov 8, 2006
Author: Laura Knight-Jadczyk
Post Date: 2006-11-08 23:18:55 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 478
Comments: 37

So you think "the system worked", democracy has won out, and that yesterday's election is the first step to straightening out the mess Bush and the Neocons have made on the planet?

Think again. It's not that "the system" didn't work; it worked very well, but you have again been duped.

Nothing has changed. In fact, many of you have been put back to sleep by the staged Democratic victory which was set up just for that purpose; to make you think you still live in a democracy. The fact is, the Zionist halter is as firmly strapped on the head of American State policy as it ever was, and the American voter needs to realize that it is immaterial which party prevails at elections.

We read in one news item today:

Democrats Win House, On Brink of Senate Power

Democrats rolled up gains of about 30 seats in the House in Tuesday's elections, riding to a huge victory on a wave of public discontent with the Iraq war, corruption and Republican President George W. Bush's leadership.

Yeah, the public has been VERY discontented and the wave of resistance growing, what with all the activity on the internet working to expose Bush and the Zio-cons for the criminals they are. I'm sure that this was part of the reason to carry on this election farce.

Democratic control of the House will make outspoken liberal Rep. Nancy Pelosi the first female speaker and could slam the brakes on much of Bush's agenda and increase pressure for a change of course in Iraq. ...

Just slamming on the brakes? How about let's put things into reverse and go back a bit? I don't think that is what Pelosi has in mind, though.

"Tonight is a great victory for the American people," Pelosi told a Democratic rally on Capitol Hill. "Today the American people voted for change, and they voted for Democrats to take our country in a new direction." ...

Did they REALLY? Or is this just another manipulation? Is it a distraction to make the people think that changes really are on the way, when, in fact, it will be business as usual?

Early exit polls showed voters disapproved of the war in Iraq by a large margin, but voters said corruption and ethics were more important to their vote, CNN said.

Democrats hammered Republicans for spawning a "culture of corruption" in Washington, with four Republican House members resigning this year under an ethics cloud.

The party was hit by allegations about influence peddling, links to convicted lobbyists and a Capitol Hill sex scandal involving Republican Rep. Mark Foley's lewd messages to teenage male congressional assistants.

Hmmm... Pelosi is focusing on Iraq and not on the corruption issues. I think I remember some recent polls that suggested over half the people in the U.S. would support impeachment of Bush and even criminal charges. That's what people are really upset about, but is Pelosi on top of that issue? Or is she just handing the people a consolation prize?

Here's another from the Chicago Tribune:

American people sent 'unmistakable message'

After six years of near-total Republican domination, voters repudiated President Bush, the Iraq war and the GOP-led Congress on Tuesday, handing control of the House of Representatives to Democrats, placing Republican hold of the Senate in doubt and upending the balance of power in Washington. The election, which centered on war, scandal and an array of anxieties about illegal immigration, high gasoline prices and embryonic stem cell research, abruptly ended 12 years of Republican rule in the House, casting out incumbents in every region of the country. ...

Notice how the corruption issues mentioned in the article above as being the chief concern of the people in the exit polls are mentioned only briefly here - scandal - while the focus gets put on the war, (which is certainly an outgrowth of corruption in the Bush Administration), immigration, high prices, and - geeze, how did that get in there - "stem cell research"?? Did they miss the exit polls that said: "voters disapproved of the war in Iraq by a large margin, but voters said corruption and ethics were more important to their vote."

You know: corruption, lies about WMDs, corruption of the Media, criminal behavior that needs to be investigated and prosecuted criminally?! It's sounding more like a set-up all the time: "hey, we'll let you Dems take the elections so it gets the heat off of us from the people who are ranting that we are fascists, meanwhile, you just make sure that nobody gets called on the carpet and/or raked over the coals! We don't want any REAL truth and justice and the American Way in Washington, ya know!"

Tuesday's election results mean Bush enters his final two years in office without a Republican Congress willingly moving his agenda forward and refraining from asking hard questions about U.S. conduct of the war in Iraq. Instead, Democrats will confront him with an agenda of their own and a newfound power to issue subpoenas and launch investigations.

Hmmm... but will they investigate what really matters? That's the 64,000 $$ question.

"The American people have sent a resounding and unmistakable message of change and new direction for America," said an exhausted Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who recruited and funded many of the challengers who won Tuesday. ...

Did they? Or is it all a farce to let off some steam, and take the heat off the criminals?

Democrats have vowed to raise the minimum wage, allow Medicare to negotiate lower prescription drug prices with pharmaceutical companies, make college tuition tax deductible and implement all of the recommendations of the Sept. 11 commission to secure the nation's borders and ports. They have also promised to expand federally funded embryonic stem cell research, which Bush gave his first, and only, veto to this year.

But wait a minnit! What about the exit polls that said: "voters disapproved of the war in Iraq by a large margin, but voters said corruption and ethics were more important to their vote."?? Sure, raising the minimum wage is a good idea, helping medicare and students out is all fine and good, but what about investigating the lies that led us into the Iraq War? What about investigating the complete lie of 9/11? What's this about "securing the nation's borders and ports"? That sounds like they are just going to continue the Bush Zio-con agenda while handing out candy to the crowd. And again, "stem-cell research"??!! Don't get me wrong, I'm all for stem-cell research if it is conducted ethically. I'm also pro-choice. But how did this become a "talking point" when what is really upsetting Americans is corruption and lack of ethics in government? We need some investigations - independent ones at that - and some arrests and prosecutions! We want Bush and the Zio-cons BEHIND BARS or in front of a firing squad! Geeze, Pelosi, they've murdered over 600,000 innocent people! Don't you get it?

On Iraq, Democrats have said they would begin a phased redeployment of U.S. forces and require Iraqis to take responsibility for their country. They have also promised to double the size of Special Forces in order to track down and destroy terrorist networks such as Al Qaeda. ...

In other words, they are just going to pursue the Bush-Zio-con agenda with different justifications. Nothing about bringing the criminals to trial, getting out of Iraq today, this minute or telling the truth to the American people that there never WAS a "terrorist threat" other than the ones created by the CIA and MOSSAD. And now that we've mentioned it, that's another thing that needs to be investigated, independently!!!

That unhappiness extended to conservatives who watched with dismay as Republicans shifted from the party of limited government, less spending and strong ethics to one of massive spending, more government and scandal.

And now it looks like the Dems are doing a similar metamorphosis ...

Voters across the political spectrum were also distressed as bribery and lobbying scandals tainted a host of Republicans, forcing House Majority Leader Tom DeLay to resign and sending Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham of California to prison. Rep. Bob Ney (R-Ohio) pleaded guilty to accepting illegal gifts from lobbyists, resigned his seat and is headed to prison next year. "They went from being the party of conviction to the party of convictions," said Matt Bennett, a strategist for Third Way, a Democratic think tank. ...

And that's the main issue, if Pelosi and gang will just take notice. And the corruption goes all the way to the top.

On top of all that, sexually explicit electronic messages to congressional pages forced Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) to leave office and allowed a Democrat to win his seat. The ensuing scandal over who knew what when threatened to cause the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, New York Rep. Tom Reynolds, to lose his own previously secure Republican seat. Even so, Reynolds managed to win re-election.

Now, isn't that odd? We already know that the main thing that Americans are upset about it corruption, and here is a guy, at the center of a major scandal, who somehow managed to get re-elected?! Something isn't right with this picture. How much you want to bet that the guy running against him couldn't be bought, and the only Dems that did win in this whole election farce were the ones that could be relied upon to be "guided" by those special interests that are driving America to destruction?

Meanwhile, Rep. Don Sherwood (R-Pa.) lost his bid for re-election after acknowledging a long-running affair with a younger woman who alleged that Sherwood had assaulted her. He later reached an out-of-court settlement with the woman. And in New York, Rep. John Sweeney lost to Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand after it became public that police responded to a domestic violence call involving Sweeney and his wife last year. ...

I guess that Sherwood was expendable. Odd that he would lose for basically a "normal" scandal - at least it was adults involved - while Tom Reynolds, involved in the Foley pedophilia scandal kept his seat. Is it just me, or is anybody else seeing something wrong with this picture?

The country's sour mood and its unhappiness with the Bush administration were apparent in the final days and weeks of the campaign. As House and Senate races went down to the wire, many Republicans chose to distance themselves from the president. And the president was unwelcome in many states where Republicans were struggling to hold onto power.

And you can bet it was all planned that way. Now, let's look at Pelosi:

Pelosi set to become first woman to lead House

Under U.S. law, the speaker is second in the line of succession to the presidency, behind only the vice president.

That means that the controllers must be very sure of Pelosi. I would say that this almost guarantees that she is dirty.

Pelosi has said she will not try to end U.S. funding of the Iraq war but will pressure Bush to shift course, begin a phased redeployment of U.S. troops and require Iraqis to take greater responsibility for their own nation.

Oh, geeze, Nancy! How assertive of you! That would have probably happened anyway because even the Repubs admit it's a quagmire. You are doing anything special!

Pelosi has rejected calls to attempt to impeach Bush and drive him from office. But she has said Democrats would hold congressional oversight hearings, which could include such matters as whether he manipulated the facts to build early support for the Iraq war.

Wow! That says it all! Pelosi rejects calls to impeach Bush... but, just to make sure people think she is being straight-up, they'll investigate the "manipulation of facts." Can we say LYING, Pelosi? Can we say putting American lives in danger? Can we say TREASON?

Now, let's think about this for a minute: All the revelations mentioned above - the "culture of corruption" - came to us via the Media. We all know that the media is responsible for promoting the lies that Bush and the Neocons peddled about 9/11 and bin Laden and Saddam that got us into the war. We all know that the media colluded to protect the standing of G.W. Bush, a rapist, drunk driver, cocaine user, and deserter from the National Guard. Now, do you really think that the media (and its controllers) suddenly woke up and decided to become overseers of the Neocon ethics, to expose the corruption in the Bush Administration that has existed for all of the past six years?

Of course not.

Now, think back to the previous presidential election when it is a certainty, based on exit polls and the general feeling in the U.S., that G.W. Bush did not win that election - heck, he didn't win the first election - it was a fraudulent election, plain and simple. Take this to the next step: do you really think that if two elections could be stolen, that a third one could not? That the entire election of yesterday could not have gone to the Republicans IF that had been wanted by those who control the money, the media, and the voting machines?

But they knew that Americans were getting just a bit too hostile, that the climate in America was volatile, and another obviously "stolen" election could have been the spark to set off a powder keg. Not that they don't, ultimately, WANT to create a revolution in the U.S.; they just want it on their terms, and when they are certain that they can make it go the way they want it to go.

Besides, the crucial legislation that was needed to get and keep all the Democrats in line has already been passed.

Remember how many democrats voted to confirm Samuel Alito? What about Atty. General Gonzalez? How about the Patriot Act? The Torture Act? Remember how McCain showed his yellow spine?

So, do not, for an instant, let it escape your mind that the very media organs that ought to support accountability have been totally co-opted for a very long time. Israel - by way of Jews loyal to the Zionist agenda - controls the media. They control other things as well. Consider who controls the telephone system in the U.S.... Israel. In short, long before 911, they had the ways and means to blackmail anyone in this country, INCLUDING CONGRESS. Then consider what Paul Craig Roberts wrote about Bush's illegal spying...

Bush's acts of illegal domestic spying are gratuitous because there are no valid reasons for Bush to illegally spy. The Foreign Intelligence Services Act gives Bush all the power he needs to spy on terrorist suspects. All the administration is required to do is to apply to a secret FISA court for warrants. The Act permits the administration to spy first and then apply for a warrant, should time be of the essence. The problem is that Bush has totally ignored the law and the court.

Why would President Bush ignore the law and the FISA court? It is certainly not because the court in its three decades of existence was uncooperative. According to attorney Martin Garbus (New York Observer, 12-28-05), the secret court has issued more warrants than all federal district judges combined, only once denying a warrant.

Why, then, has the administration created another scandal for itself on top of the WMD, torture, hurricane, and illegal detention scandals?

There are two possible reasons.

One reason is that the Bush administration is being used to concentrate power in the executive. The old conservative movement, which honors the separation of powers, has been swept away. Its place has been taken by a neoconservative movement that worships executive power.

The other reason is that the Bush administration could not go to the FISA secret court for warrants because it was not spying for legitimate reasons and, therefore, had to keep the court in the dark about its activities.

What might these illegitimate reasons be? Could it be that the Bush administration used the spy apparatus of the US government in order to influence the outcome of the presidential election?

Could we attribute the feebleness of the Democrats as an opposition party to information obtained through illegal spying that would subject them to blackmail?

When Roberts suggests "What might these illegitimate reasons be? Could it be that the Bush administration used the spy apparatus of the US government in order to influence the outcome of the presidential election? "

... he doesn't really go the full distance. What if the illegal spying is to gain complete control of government and judiciary? Everybody has dirty laundry, and if you have that information, you can control about anything. The only people you can't control are those who are "clean" and we can guess from the way things are going in the U.S. and UK, just about everybody is "dirty."

Americans turned out in record numbers to vote in the last presidential election. They NEVER do that unless they are unhappy with the status quo. The exit polls and evidence of vote tampering suggests strongly that Bush did not win the election... (which is not to say that Kerry was any better choice!)

So, not only do they have control of congress and the judiciary so that they can control legislation, they also control the votes... As Stalin said, it's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes. And with control of congress and the judiciary AND the support of the Israeli owned media, there is NO possibility of them being made accountable for ANY of their crimes.

The whole election was played out as a farce to reassure the American people that they still lived in a democracy and to quell the growing revolutionary agitation.

So, considering the cards that the Israelis are holding in terms of illegal spying, I think we need to be realistic and understand that this election is not going to change anything substantive. They made a big show of the Democratic Sweep of the House, and on and on. But with the controls this cabal has already, there is ZERO possibility of fundamental change in course.

That's the problem we are facing and 911 is the single best leverage we have to DO something about it IF it is utilized efficiently. People need to continue to demand accountability for 9/11 - a full and independent investigation that includes reviewers and overseers selected at random from a pool of qualified, INTERNATIONAL, experts. The real criminals need to be found and prosecuted.

Anything else is just farce, business as usual.

But that's the name of the game in American politics.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: Horse, Cynicom, bluegrass, Jethro Tull, robin, bluedogtxn, Ferret Mike, Morgana Le Fay, Mekons4, aristeides, Fred Mertz, Arator, Kamala, (#0)

The whole election was played out as a farce to reassure the American people that they still lived in a democracy and to quell the growing revolutionary agitation.

So, considering the cards that the Israelis are holding in terms of illegal spying, I think we need to be realistic and understand that this election is not going to change anything substantive. They made a big show of the Democratic Sweep of the House, and on and on. But with the controls this cabal has already, there is ZERO possibility of fundamental change in course.

That's the problem we are facing and 911 is the single best leverage we have to DO something about it IF it is utilized efficiently. People need to continue to demand accountability for 9/11 - a full and independent investigation that includes reviewers and overseers selected at random from a pool of qualified, INTERNATIONAL, experts. The real criminals need to be found and prosecuted.

Anything else is just farce, business as usual.

But that's the name of the game in American politics.

good piece

christine  posted on  2006-11-08   23:50:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Horse (#0)

So, do not, for an instant, let it escape your mind that the very media organs that ought to support accountability have been totally co-opted for a very long time. Israel - by way of Jews loyal to the Zionist agenda - controls the media. They control other things as well.

Even the Arabs get it. The FReekers tried playing up a news report where some Muslims cheered on the "D"s gaining power. Only problem was that the bulk of the Arabs on the street that they polled said that the "D" takeover would do nothing to stop the Iraq war or the US trying to provoke Iran into a fight.

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-11-08   23:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Meanwhile, Rep. Don Sherwood (R-Pa.) lost his bid for re-election after acknowledging a long-running affair with a younger woman who alleged that Sherwood had assaulted her.

I'm happy to read this tonight.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-11-09   0:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine (#1)

Here's how I see it. It's like a "Punch and Judy" puppet show. Punch has had the stick for a long time now, and has been whacking the snot outta Judy for hours and hours and hours. Finally, the audience was getting restless, and suddenly Judy grabs the stick, and now we'll get to see Punch getting smacked around for a while. Yay! Woo hoo! Yippie!

But it still the same puppeteer behind the curtain, they're just little wooden and cloth dolls, and the whole thing is a cheap, shabby show run by an inept alcoholic puppeteer who hates his job and hates his audience. It's a pathetic shamboozle fraudscam designed to appease children and immature adults. And it's all utterly meaningless.

Gold and silver are real money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2006-11-09   1:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#1)

That's the problem we are facing and 911 is the single best leverage we have to DO something about it IF it is utilized efficiently. People need to continue to demand accountability for 9/11 - a full and independent investigation that includes reviewers and overseers selected at random from a pool of qualified, INTERNATIONAL, experts. The real criminals need to be found and prosecuted.

I am understandably happy for the hope of some breathing room, but I agree with this premise; unless the truth is exposed profoundly, nothing has changed and we are in serious jeopardy as a nation.

I would advise approaching this election as an opportunity o explore where the Democrats have been compromised on this issue. I find it hard to believe that there are not some of them who know full well what happened, and are merely going along with this horrible truth fearful of the explosion and possible revolutionary spirit letting the common woman and man know what their damn country's government did to them; murder some of them to influence the rest politically in the way they sought to.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   3:41:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Elliott Jackalope, IndieTX (#4)

Three demonstrators including Cindy Sheehan arrested for "Interfering with a government function" when delivering 80,000 signatures against the Proxy war the United States fights on the behalf of Israel showing that it is still business as usual when it comes to the conduct and execution of this illegal and immoral war.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   4:04:27 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)

I think one thing that will have to be done is that the new pro gun Dems that were elected will have to challenge some of their leadership (Pelosi, Feinstein, Conyers, Hillary, Kucinich, Schumer, Kennedy etc.) on this issue. I believe that the rights outlined in the second amendment are the ones that butress the entirety of the bill of rights and have kept Shrubya from promulgating an even worse dictatorship.

And for those people who keep on saying that you can't win against tanks and helecopters with handguns and "Assault weapons" all I've got to say is tell it to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan the latter country on the virge of winning against tanks and helecopters with handguns and "Assault weapons" TWICE!!! (Once against the Soviets and once against Shrubya.)

Coral Snake  posted on  2006-11-09   4:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: christine (#1)

That means that the controllers must be very sure of Pelosi. I would say that this almost guarantees that she is dirty.

Anyone that knows the corrupt family that Pelosi comes from has reason to fear her.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-11-09   4:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Coral Snake (#7)

The right to keep and bar arms is a critical one Americans should not be denied. But recognition of the potency of the new tactics and technologies that are being developed here and in Israel to thwart and stymie acts of dissent and to crush demonstrations is every bit as important an avocation as protecting the Second Amendment.

The second amendment means nothing if every time one ventures into the public arena to conduct dissent they are hit with low frequency sound weapons or have to run for their lives from the effect of new anti-crown microwave weapons.

Think more carefully your targets Coral Snake, because some of them might ultimately be more valuable in office then not if they are strong proponents to fight the use and development of weapons so new we still do not have a full grasp pf the extent and degree of influence on how they effect the right to protest or demonstrate.

If some on your list are informed and strong allies to dismantle the newest and unfortunately impressive tools used to enforce the police state merely because these measures are completely or somewhat non-lethal, care should be taken in regard to targeting them and replacing them.

If you get new leaders in their place who are strong Second Amendment supporters yet wink and nod in complacent support and agreement in the use of new crowd control technologies and tactics, you have lost ground in the advocacy of your issues, not gained it.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   4:42:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#1)

Bullseye article.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

"At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net

Kamala  posted on  2006-11-09   4:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Coral Snake (#7)

I fear these new Dems will try and reinstate the assault weapons ban. Bush and Alberto are gun grabbers, and Bush early on in 2001 said he would re-sign the bill.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

"At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net

Kamala  posted on  2006-11-09   4:58:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: christine (#1)

.....People need to continue to demand accountability for 9/11 - a full and independent investigation that includes reviewers and overseers selected at random from a pool of qualified, INTERNATIONAL, experts. The real criminals need to be found and prosecuted.....

Just hold on here, you mean little arab gremlins DIDN'T pull 911?

There are 3 on this forum that think so.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

"At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net

Kamala  posted on  2006-11-09   5:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Kamala (#11)

I do not in anyway support a rein-position of the assault weapon ban, just for the record.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   5:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

I just don't trust any of them, Mike. Both DEMS and REPS have passed some of the most treasonous legislation ever. I voted 3rd party for the most part Tues.

Mark

The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent

"At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net

Kamala  posted on  2006-11-09   5:09:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Kamala (#14)

I voted Dem mostly, and my view is one of incrementalization in that I see Democrats as easier to leverage and deal with in effecting change.

I do not view them or their kind as the sort of people needed ultimately to be running things if human rights and the rule of law is to be kept just and upheld.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   5:21:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#2)

Even the Arabs get it. The FReekers tried playing up a news report where some Muslims cheered on the "D"s gaining power. Only problem was that the bulk of the Arabs on the street that they polled said that the "D" takeover would do nothing to stop the Iraq war or the US trying to provoke Iran into a fight.

The Arabs have it right. The Tail (israel) wags the dog (America). The murdering of Muslims by the IDF in Gaza has reached record highs. The American war against Israel's enemies in the Muslim neighborhood will not only continue but intensify.

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2006-11-09   5:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Horse, All (#0)

"The American people have sent a resounding and unmistakable message of change and new direction for America," said an exhausted Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who recruited and funded many of the challengers who won Tuesday. ...

Did they? Or is it all a farce to let off some steam, and take the heat off the criminals?

The election cycle is like a buffer zone that allows the organs of State a breather in between branding, sorting and corraling the cattle.

This election was a big move towards corraling the cattle and all they had to do was shove us all into one corral. They "caused" republicrats to vote for demigods, ostensibly to get a change. This is long range planning and not the result of decisions based upon immediacy. Bush has been a socialist-fascist democrat in Republican Drag. He's been a phoney conservative judged by his acts rather than his speeches ... gotcha ... now you have voted for people you would never have chosen without being coerced in a vain attempt to undo your last mistaken vote, if your a Republican or conservative.

I do some ranching and I know how to herd animal cattle, politicians herd people and know very well how to get them into corrals. Ranchers will know that sometimes the herding goes fairly well and easy until you try to shove all of the cattle into a restricted space. Often times the herd becomes uneasy, nervous, frightened, angry and turns to stampede the ranchers ... and this is the only time the rancher is having second thoughts about herding the normally docile cattle/people.

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."

Patrick Henry

noone222  posted on  2006-11-09   7:19:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: noone222, christine (#17)

Often times the herd becomes uneasy, nervous, frightened, angry and turns to stampede the ranchers ... and this is the only time the rancher is having second thoughts about herding the normally docile cattle/people.

Awesome.

I'm not goin' to Vegas...I'm just goin' to work. - Click on 'Dusted!'

Esso  posted on  2006-11-09   7:49:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Horse (#0)

Geeze, Pelosi, they've murdered over 600,000 innocent people! Don't you get it?

Pelosi doesn't give a rat's ass...47,000 Americans have been KILLED on OUR OWN SOIL since 9/11 by illegal aliens, and she's going to give them amnesty. It's a dog and pony show, folks...just pray you don't get trampled to death.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-11-09   8:07:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Horse (#0)

All the same though, I feel better knowing there'll be some Congressional oversight on the juvenile delinquent in the White House.


I've already said too much.

MUDDOG  posted on  2006-11-09   8:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Elliott Jackalope (#4)

Here's how I see it. It's like a "Punch and Judy" puppet show. Punch has had the stick for a long time now, and has been whacking the snot outta Judy for hours and hours and hours. Finally, the audience was getting restless, and suddenly Judy grabs the stick, and now we'll get to see Punch getting smacked around for a while. Yay! Woo hoo! Yippie!

But it still the same puppeteer behind the curtain, they're just little wooden and cloth dolls, and the whole thing is a cheap, shabby show run by an inept alcoholic puppeteer who hates his job and hates his audience. It's a pathetic shamboozle fraudscam designed to appease children and immature adults. And it's all utterly meaningless.

that's a darn good analysis.

christine  posted on  2006-11-09   9:11:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Kamala (#12)

There are 3 on this forum that think so.

16%ers

christine  posted on  2006-11-09   9:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#1)

The whole election was played out as a farce to reassure the American people that they still lived in a democracy and to quell the growing revolutionary agitation.

Well, call me an "optimist" but I tend to disagree with this editorial. The premise is that the Zio-whatevers are still in "in charge" and fascism marches on...

I don't necessarily disagree with the premise that the election was a controlled experience, a manipulated event, a staged deal, etc... I just think that the results were not what the Zio-Neo-Corporo-Cons had in mind. I think that the machinery designed to control the results was released, perhaps on Karl Rove's pie-in-the-sky assertions that he knew "the" math and he read "the" polls and his prediction was that the Repubics would keep control. Or perhaps it was the real corporatists, ala George Bush Sr., the real "power behind the throne" tossing out a reminder that the big boys were still in charge. Else, why would a long-time Geo Bush Sr. associate now be SecDef and the neocon bannerman banished? Why is the Baker commission suddenly no longer just an "advisory group" but a controlling group?

I think what we witnessed was neither a Democratic coup nor a Neocon retrenchment. I think the real power behind the throne just tossed the Neocons out on their asses and reasserted itself. They have no interest in fomenting a revolution or an "overthrow" of our "freedoms". They know that shit is just conceptual. What they want is a bunch of people (us) working hard to keep sending them money and blood to spend as they wish.

After all, a revolution ain't good for profits. A plantation of blue and red slaves pitted against each other is.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   9:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Zoroaster (#16)

The murdering of Muslims by the IDF in Gaza has reached record highs.

Are you referring to the shelling of houses in Gaza yesterday that wiped out a couple of sleeping families? That wasn't murder, that was purely an accident, like the USS Liberty. The IDF said so.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   9:51:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: bluedogtxn (#23)

I don't necessarily disagree with the premise that the election was a controlled experience, a manipulated event, a staged deal, etc...

i think it was as it was the CFR dems who "won." certainly no anti- establishment, man/woman for the people. the agenda is the same and it's an anti-american globalist one.

What they want is a bunch of people (us) working hard to keep sending them money and blood to spend as they wish.

After all, a revolution ain't good for profits. A plantation of blue and red slaves pitted against each other is.

i agree with you on this part. that helps them to achieve their end goal.

christine  posted on  2006-11-09   10:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bluedogtxn (#23) (Edited)

I think you’re close to right with your assessment, bluedog. Bush #41 has re- entered the picture with his "team." Gates is his buddy from the CIA days and the Baker commission is all George #41. The truth be known, the kid didn't muster up and is about to be send to bed with no supper for the next two years. A Democrat House and Senate will be his new babysitter. This is actually the story of Jr’s life; incompetence, coupled by an addiction, this time to power rather than a substance. BTW, I heard on Imus this morning that only (app) 4 million TX voters bothered to exercise their franchise. This out of a registered 13 million :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-09   10:28:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#26)

The truth be known, the kid didn't muster up and is about to send to bed with no supper for the next two years. A Democrat House and Senate will be his new babysitter. This is actually the story of Jr’s life; incompetence, coupled by an addiction, this time to power rather than a substance.

Well, the consistent rest of Junior's story has been daddy coming in to rebuke him and then bail him out. This election was true to form, and now daddy Bush is back in charge of the White House.

Who knows who the Christ is in control of Congress, though.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   10:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Jethro Tull, bluedotxn (#26) (Edited)

BTW, I heard on Imus this morning that only (app) 4 million TX voters bothered to exercise their franchise. This out of a registered 13 million :)

yesterday, an Austin man called into AJ. he had participated in a parallel election at one precinct here. he said that it was an anti-republican day. there were democrat votes and far more libertarian votes than THEIR machines reflected. the one republican who "won" his race had more than 50% fewer votes by his count than what THEY showed as well. you can bet that we never see what the people actually select.

christine  posted on  2006-11-09   10:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#28)

parallel election

As Bev Harris said yesterday on FNN to a talking head, "How do you know this election wasn't fixed"? The talking head went mum....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-09   10:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine, Horse, Cynicom, bluegrass, Jethro Tull, robin, bluedogtxn, Ferret Mike, Morgana Le Fay, Mekons4, aristeides, Fred Mertz, Arator, Kamala (#1)

From the original source of the above article we find the following comment,

http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2006/11/post-election- reality-check.html

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-09   14:34:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: christine (#28)

yesterday, an Austin man called into AJ. he had participated in a parallel election at one precinct here. he said that it was an anti-republican day. there were democrat votes and far more libertarian votes than THEIR machines reflected. the one republican who "won" his race had more than 50% fewer votes by his count than what THEY showed as well. you can bet that we never see what the people actually select.

It's a given that if we went to 100% paper ballots counted by hand and the tallies overseen by armed citizens militia that we would have panic among the elites, and a good number of hangings the day after an honest vote count.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-09   14:38:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: BTP Holdings (#30)

You can initiate the impeachment process and simultaneously help to convince Pelosi to follow through with the process. Do-It-Yourself by downloading the memorial, filling in the relevant information in the blanks (your name, state, etc.), and sending it in. Be a part of history.

http://ImpeachForPeace.org/ImpeachNow.html

Thanks!

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-09   14:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: BTP Holdings (#30)

After Bush is dealt with, how do we get Pelosi to fall on her sword?

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   14:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: bluegrass (#33)

After Bush is dealt with, how do we get Pelosi to fall on her sword?

The trick will be to get rid of Cheney so he is not in the top spot. As for Pelosi, well, she already has five kids and I have a dagger in my shorts she can borrow to commit hara kiri. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-09   14:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

Only thing missing is the SS on the jackboot's uniforms.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition



IndieTX  posted on  2006-11-09   16:11:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: BTP Holdings (#30)

Take a moment, and help convince Nancy Pelosi to Impeach..

It's just not going to happen. Sorry. The GOP went down that road with Clinton and it cost them. The Dems are glad to learn from the GOP mistakes.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   16:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bluedogtxn (#36)

It's just not going to happen. Sorry. The GOP went down that road with Clinton and it cost them. The Dems are glad to learn from the GOP mistakes.

Think of how much fun it would be to tighten up Pelosi's shorts on this. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-09   19:01:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest


[Home]  [Headlines]  [Latest Articles]  [Latest Comments]  [Post]  [Sign-in]  [Mail]  [Setup]  [Help]