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Title: Some great replies to Doug from Upchuck on the subject of libertarianism at FreeRepublic
Source: FreeRepublic
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1734843/posts
Published: Nov 9, 2006
Author: Doug from Upland, Various, Coral Snake
Post Date: 2006-11-09 01:49:07 by Coral Snake
Keywords: Libertarianism, Doug from Upchuck, FreeRepublic
Views: 152
Comments: 9

(Coral Snake) This is a really great reply to Doug from Upland at FreeRepublic about the subkect of libertarianism that reallt tells it all on the importance of Gun Rights.


To: Matchett-PI

The Libertarian Party is for totally open borders and not defending our country. They are a problem, not a solution.

43 posted on 11/08/2006 8:26:10 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland and not defending our country.

That, is an outright lie. In fact, allowing completely unrestrained RKBA would do more to prevent crime and terroism here in the US than Bush's TSA and Homeland Security Departments ever could.

45 posted on 11/08/2006 8:27:20 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: doug from upland

But to be fair....at least the Libertarian party would allow you to protect YOUR own boarders.

59 posted on 11/08/2006 8:36:01 AM PST by fatboynic
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To: doug from upland The Libertarian Party is for totally open borders and not defending our country. They are a problem, not a solution.

While I don't doubt that is what the Libertarian Party says, most libertarians aren't in the party. They are independents or Republican, trying to change the party from within. Most support controlling the border as that is a legitimate power of the state. Not every libertarin subscribes to the LP platform. FWIW. ;-)

111 posted on 11/08/2006 9:07:44 AM PST by Unknown Pundit (I really do post with a paper bag over my head.)
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#2. To: Coral Snake (#0)

Doug From Upland fails to realize that if we want to elect Democrats, we will elect Democrats. If we want Republicans, we will elect Republicans.

Why would anyone vote for a Republican who acts like a Democrat when you can get the real thing?

Its sour grapes time and the "party faithful" are simply unwilling to realize that the real blame starts by pointing a finger at the mirror, not by alienating the independents.

If they keep this up, they'll be a minority party FOREVER.

mirage  posted on  2006-11-09   3:07:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: mirage (#2)

"Why would anyone vote for a Republican who acts like a Democrat when you can get the real thing?"

Exactly. I want Democrats to stay sober and responsive to the needs of the people and to consolidate and expand on the win Tuesday. I found it encouraging Democrats could take the leadership in Congress, but I am still suspicious that cheating was done to leverage he gains to make them as small as it was plausible to get away with.

I want to see election security to be made a key consideration and to be achieved with no thought of compromise in this regard.

If you cannot secure the result of an election and keep it honest, you cannot realistically expect people to believe you care about keeping the rest of the country secure from anything else; especially boy George's favorite bogeymen, the dark, shapeless and always redefined specter of the terrorist menace.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   3:35:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Ferret Mike (#3)

I want Democrats to stay sober and responsive to the needs of the people and to consolidate and expand on the win Tuesday.

You disappoint me Mike.

Your democrat party partisanship is showing as I had come to think you were a thinking person, one that was an American, not a dem or a pub.

Very disappointed.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-11-09   17:02:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

"Your democrat party partisanship is showing as I had come to think you were a thinking person, one that was an American, not a dem or a pub."

I have taken hits these past couple of days on DU as I posted comments directed at Democrats who didn't like my lecturing them on how to do things.

You can believe what you wish, but I am from a clan of McCarthys in Sprague, Connecticut with a whole row of relatives living on the same road. They are all Catholic and all yellow dog Democrats.

I am influenced by my upbringing, as well as having had a very conservative Mom who was a Republican when she died of cancer in recent years.

I was just as happy when they lost power in the Reagan years after too many decades of being fat arrogant and full of hubris, and after a period of controlling Congress, I will be happy to see it roll over once more.

If you think I want Congress to just be continually controlled by th same party, you are just flat wrong.

In this instance, I am very aggrieved and angry about the Neocon wars. I want the Demos to solidly take Congress and show if they can end them and possibly do better.

Realistically, both parties are way way too much like one another for my taste. I more feel like the vanilla republicans now hold Congress then a bona fide genuine opposition party, so I have no illusions about what is going on in Washington,and my comments merely reflected pragmatism and no doubt some coloration unavoidable considering my back ground. ;-)

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