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Title: Posted on Democratic Underground
Source: DU
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Published: Nov 9, 2006
Author: "Witch something or other"
Post Date: 2006-11-09 12:04:05 by bluedogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 550
Comments: 49

Dear dismayed conservatives: Dear dismayed conservatives:

I hereby make these promises to you.

We will protect your lives and livelihoods.

We will listen to and respect your beliefs.

We will never try to force you to change your religion, sexual orientation, or first language.

We will do our best to reduce the number of abortions in our country.

We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party.

ESPECIALLY in our own party.

We will never tell you that you are unpatriotic.

We will never tell you that your opinion doesn't count.

We will never waste your lives for power.

We will hold our leaders to a high ethical standard and when they succumb to lust for power, WE WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

If we forget this, please, please, please, remind us.

We need you to do this. You are America as much as we are. Let's go.

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#1. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party.

Hilarious. Do you all actually buy this shit?

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:05:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluegrass (#1)

Hilarious. Do you all actually buy this shit?

Scum rises to the top...

Yesterday, Senator Nelsons son (gov employee) was arrested, drunk, assult on a cop, resisting arrest and other charges.

Both "parties" have a lock on arrogance for authority and the unwashed masses.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-11-09   12:10:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bluegrass (#1)

We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party. Hilarious. Do you all actually buy this shit?

I buy that a lot of Democrats feel this way. Which beats the crap out of the GOP "fuck you up your liberal ass" approach.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:10:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#2)

Both "parties" have a lock on arrogance for authority and the unwashed masses.

I prefer to call them franchises, not parties. : )

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluegrass (#4)

I prefer to call them franchises, not parties. : )

I saw that.

Money buys such things.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-11-09   12:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluedogtxn (#3)

"We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party" is exactly the same as "fuck you up your liberal ass".

Whether someone's coming to rob and kill you with with a smile or a sneer is immaterial. They're still thieving murderers.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bluegrass, bluedogtxn (#1) (Edited)

We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party.

that might be true of rank and file democrats, but it sure isn't true (in fact it's laughable and the epitome of bullsh!t shoveling that they'd even say such a thing) of the elitist leadership.

When will they learn that a heart doesn't draw the line...

christine  posted on  2006-11-09   12:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#5)

Money buys such things.

Money also buys elections and the means to blackmail the guy you just bought the election for.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, bluedogtxn (#7)

I wanna know what hack wrote:

"We will never waste your lives for power."

A Democratic Senate approved the Iraq invasion in 2002.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bluegrass (#6) (Edited)

What the Democrats will do is throw a few corporate execs (from the middle sized companies who didn't spread around enough cash in DC to protect themselves) who stole some contract money in Iraq into the federal prosecution meat grinder in which they will defend themselves for half a decade before getting their slaps on the wrist.

This will generate a lot of headlines, a lot of late night Leno and Letterman jokes- an SNL skit- and make some poor slob from XYZ Corp the new Ken Lay household name synonymous with corporate corruption example of the moment. The result on the overall course of Iraq and the corruption? Absolutley nil.

Nancy, "No Impeachment", Pelosi isn't going to do a damn thing other than spike through some entitlement give aways to the Dem base that has had to settle for an Applebee's entree of pork the last 6 years rather than a Smith & Lewinsky's steak.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-09   12:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

We will never tell you that you are unpatriotic.

I am not a patriot


Take heed and cower before The Lord's Chosen for a profit.
-- Subgenius Commandment Generator

Tauzero  posted on  2006-11-09   12:27:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Tauzero (#11)

You don't wear an American flag pin on your lapel every day?

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-09   12:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Burkeman1 (#10)

The result on the overall course of Iraq and the corruption? Absolutley nil.

C'mon now. I expect that the Judeocrats will find a way to increase the corruption while acting like it's being fixed. There's still some wool left to pull over America's remaining eye.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: christine (#7)

that might be true of rank and file democrats,

DU is the hard left of rank and file democrats. I didn't post this to say it was true, but to illustrate the difference in philosophy of the far right website "Free Republic" and the far left one "Democratic Underground".

If rank and file democrats feel this way, it is to their credit, although they will get duly sheared in their turn.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tauzero (#11)

Take heed and cower before The Lord's Chosen for a profit.

You got da best sigs.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:32:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bluegrass (#9)

A Democratic Senate approved the Iraq invasion in 2002.

They didn't write it or execute it, and it passed with tremendous national support from the sheeple. They were representing their constituents, which is from my point of view, no damn excuse at all, but a better one than the liar in chief who made a war from nothing, for nothing and acheived nothing.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: bluedogtxn (#14)

they will get duly sheared in their turn.

If you know this, why do you keep an emotional attachement to a party that you know will shear you also?

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:34:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: bluedogtxn (#14)

I was under the impression that DU was hardly "Far left" and more just a Democrat version of Free-Republic- a party line enforcing joke. I have read about DU'ers getting banned for questioning the pro war stances of the candidates the Dems put up.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-09   12:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: bluedogtxn (#16)

The Iraq Crime is being perpetrated by the Dems and the Reps. It just so happens that a Rep is chairman of the board while the caper went off.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: bluedogtxn (#16)

They were representing their constituents, which is from my point of view, no damn excuse at all, but a better one than the liar in chief who made a war from nothing, for nothing and acheived nothing.

Oh, we were polled by our senators?

Hmm, I must have missed that....

Did they poll you about supporting the Patriot Act, too? (with the exception of the now deceased Wellstone)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-11-09   12:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: bluegrass (#15)

Not much else to do while waiting for the other shoe to go missing.


Take heed and cower before The Lord's Chosen for a profit.
-- Subgenius Commandment Generator

Tauzero  posted on  2006-11-09   12:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bluegrass (#17)

If you know this, why do you keep an emotional attachement to a party that you know will shear you also?

Getting sheared is an inevitable consequence of living on Earth among other humans. I like the Democratic Party because once in a while they take a break from shearing ordinary working people and toss them a bone. The Republicans don't. I like the sentiments expressed in the post above because it shows that the rank and file Democrats want to make peace with Republicans and work together, while what I've seen on Free Pubics is an opposite sentiment, that the Democrats and other "traitors" should be shipped to Gitmo or just plain shot. There are exceptions, of course, on both sides of the aisles.

My "attachment" to the Democratic party is not merely emotional, but also deeply rational. It is the people's party, to the extent the people have a party at all. The GOP is bought and sold and managed by hands far, far above the common ordinary guy. The Dems have to at least once in a while give that guy a nod. Are the dems on the verge of being co-opted? Sure. But the GOP was co-opted long ago and permanently.

With the Dems I get hope, disappointment and, rarely, something good. With the GOP I get resignation and endurance.

Your opinions and experiences will undoubtedly be different from mine.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:44:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Burkeman1 (#18)

I have read about DU'ers getting banned for questioning the pro war stances of the candidates the Dems put up.

I don't know where you've read that, but I suspect that ain't likely. You can get banned for the kind of language that's pretty common here, or for repeatedly going after someone on a very personal level, but anti-war is always popular over there.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:46:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: HOUNDDAWG (#20)

Oh, we were polled by our senators?

Hmm, I must have missed that:

[edit] February 2003 Following Powell's February 5 speech at the UN, most polls, like one conducted by CNN and NBC, showed increased support for the invasion. NBC's Washington bureau chief Tim Russert, said the bumps in support were "largely" due to president Bush's State of the Union speech in January and to Powell's presentation on February 5, which most viewers felt offered strong evidence for action against Iraq. Bush's approval ratings jumped 7 points, and support for the invasion jumped 4 points. Only 27 percent opposed military action, the smallest percentage since the polls began in April of 2002. The percentage of Americans supporting an invasion without UN support jumped eight points to 37%. 49% of those polled felt that President Bush had prepared the country for war and its potential risks, a 9 point jump from the previous month. [4] A Gallup poll showed the majority of the population erroneously believed Iraq was responsible for the attacks of September 11.

Anti-war demonstrations took place in more than 500 US cities, among them Cambridge (Massachusetts), Berkeley, New York, Washington, Boston, San Francisco, Hollywood, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Milwaukee, Portland, Athens (Ohio), Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Oakland, Madison, Eugene, Detroit, and East Lansing. In several cases demonstrators were arrested. The protests reached their peak just before the Iraq War broke out.

[edit] March 2003 A Gallup poll taken after the beginning of the war showed a 62% support for the war, lower than the 79% in favor at the beginning of the Persian Gulf War.

[edit] April 2003 A poll made by Washington Post and ABC News found that 72% of Americans supported the Iraq War, even without finding any chemical or biological weapons.

A poll made by CBS found that 60% of Americans said the Iraq War was worth the blood and cost even if no WMD are ever found.

[edit] May 2003 A Gallup poll made on behalf of CNN and the newspaper USA Today concluded that 79% of Americans thought the Iraq War was justified, with or without conclusive evidence of illegal weapons. 19% thought weapons were needed to justify the war. [1]

Your senator can probably read.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:48:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: bluegrass (#19)

The Iraq Crime is being perpetrated by the Dems and the Reps. It just so happens that a Rep is chairman of the board while the caper went off.

I really don't think we'd have done Iraq without Bush, BG. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Gore wouldn't have stuck his dick out that far.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:53:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bluedogtxn (#22)

Getting sheared is an inevitable consequence of living on Earth among other humans.

One only gets sheared if one acts like a sheep. Actual human beings don't take advantage of each other, barbarians do.

The GOP is bought and sold and managed by hands far, far above the common ordinary guy...Are the dems on the verge of being co-opted?

Your party was co-opted long ago, before any of us were born. Recall that a Dem named Wilson rolled over for the bankers and imposed the Federal Reserve on us. The Reps went along with it. Neither party has seen fit to remove the shackle.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: bluedogtxn (#24)

Your senator can probably read.

What a pity there are no polls showing my senators how Americans feel about the IRS and the income tax.

Then, there would be no money to launch imperialist ventures like these.

All polls are push polls by the way they're worded.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-11-09   12:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: bluegrass (#26)

Recall that a Dem named Wilson rolled over for the bankers and imposed the Federal Reserve on us. The Reps went along with it. Neither party has seen fit to remove the shackle.

Can you name a successful monetary system that is still on a metals or commodity standard?

Monetization is an ugly reality of worldwide economics. Get used to it, because it ain't gonna change.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   12:58:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: bluedogtxn (#25)

I really don't think we'd have done Iraq without Bush, BG.

The stone cold fact is that The Rape of Iraq couldn't have happened without that ol' bipartisan effort combined with the threats of the Jewish lobby.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   12:59:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: HOUNDDAWG (#27)

All polls are push polls by the way they're worded.

This is probably true, although I'm not a behavioralist enough to know. What is also true is that in the wake of 9-11, anyone who had tried to stand in the way of Bush attacking anyone would have been committing political hari-kiri. Feingold and a very few others who voted against authorizing the war lost support because of it (although Feingold was safe).

You gotta remember how dang popular the thing was when they launched it. It was bread and circuses thrown to the mob on Tee Vee, and the mob ate that shit up. No buncha dang ragheads were gonna shove us around and blow up our buildings, by dang and by golly. Amen.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   13:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: bluegrass (#29)

see my post 30.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   13:02:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: bluedogtxn, HOUNDDAWG (#30)

What is also true is that in the wake of 9-11, anyone who had tried to stand in the way of Bush attacking anyone would have been committing political hari-kiri.

I notice that Democrats never reference Paul Wellstone or even question his suspicious death.

A real bunch of spinemongers, alright.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   13:05:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: bluegrass (#32)

I notice that Democrats never reference Paul Wellstone or even question his suspicious death

What are you talking about? Wellstone being murdered was a pretty popular staple among DU conspiracy guys, even after the GOP started using speeches from his funeral to show how crazy radical the Democrats are...

There are still a lot of Dems who think he was murdered.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   13:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: bluedogtxn (#33)

There are still a lot of Dems who think he was murdered.

I'm sure Pelosi and Emanuel will bring it up in the House right after the swearing-in.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   13:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: bluegrass (#34)

There are still a lot of Dems who think he was murdered. I'm sure Pelosi and Emanuel will bring it up in the House right after the swearing-in.

Sure. Like we've been hearing in congress about Vince Foster for the past six years.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   13:19:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: bluedogtxn (#14)

Like any human beings, even those who adhere to the principles articulated in the header have lapses in memory of what they believe and stand for. I view it as an accomplishment to even take this stand.

As humans on planet Earth none of us will ever be perfect, so I chose not to live in cynicism that these articulated believes are wholesale hypocrisy.

You would never hear the mean spirited FReeper mind produce these words. And just because your adversary does not believe in these principles doesn't ever mean one must reduce him or herself to their level of behavior.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-09   13:28:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bluedogtxn (#35)

Like we've been hearing in congress about Vince Foster for the past six years.

My point exactly.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-09   13:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Burkeman1 (#10)

What the Democrats will do is throw a few corporate execs (from the middle sized companies who didn't spread around enough cash in DC to protect themselves) who stole some contract money in Iraq into the federal prosecution meat grinder in which they will defend themselves for half a decade before getting their slaps on the wrist.

This will generate a lot of headlines, a lot of late night Leno and Letterman jokes- an SNL skit- and make some poor slob from XYZ Corp the new Ken Lay household name synonymous with corporate corruption example of the moment. The result on the overall course of Iraq and the corruption? Absolutley nil.

Nancy, "No Impeachment", Pelosi isn't going to do a damn thing other than spike through some entitlement give aways to the Dem base that has had to settle for an Applebee's entree of pork the last 6 years rather than a Smith & Lewinsky's steak.

Damn, where did you find the script?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-11-09   13:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#36)

You would never hear the mean spirited FReeper mind produce these words.

That was the sum and substance behind this post. Nothing more.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-09   13:37:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: bluedogtxn (#3)

I buy that a lot of Democrats feel this way.

Would that be democrats who you meet on the street or democrats that are actually in power?

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-09   14:15:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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