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Title: MADSEN: CHENEY ON THE WAY OUT?
Source: Wayne Madsen Report
URL Source: http://waynemadsenreport.com/
Published: Nov 10, 2006
Author: Wayne Madsen
Post Date: 2006-11-10 13:27:22 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 880
Comments: 61

November 10/11/12, 2006 -- The impending partial purge of the Bush 43 neo-cons by the incoming cadre of Bush 41 officials is already having an effect on U.S.-Syrian relations. Intelligence sources report that the Bush 41 team, still grateful for Syrian President Hafez al Assad's support for Operation Desert Storm, is working to exonerate Bashar Assad, Assad's son, for his government's alleged role in the February 2005 car bomb assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. WMR has previously reported that Hariri's assassination was ordered by neo-cons in Israel and the United States who wanted to implement their "Clean Break" policy in order to drive Syrian occupation troops out of Lebanon and then engineer wars with the Lebanese Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran. With the Iraq Study Group led by Bush 41 Secretary of State James Baker and including Defense Secretary-designate Robert Gates engaged in negotiations with Syria to work out an American military withdrawal from Iraq, the neo-con charges against Syria for the Hariri assassination are being cast aside, according to U.S. intelligence sources.

The behind-the-scenes negotiations with Damascus reportedly will curtail moves by chief UN investigator Serge Brammertz to convene a UN "Lebanon Special Tribunal" to try members of the Lebanese and Syrian governments for the Hariri assassination. In fact, the incoming "realpolitik" advisers to the Bush administration are already taking steps to lay blame for the assassination on operatives linked to notorious Russian-Israeli Mafia weapons smuggler and Defense Department air transport contractor Viktor Bout. Such an assignment of blame is designed to send a friendly signal to Damascus while signaling to Jerusalem that the blame for the Hariri assassination is being laid very close but not actually on the doorstep of Israel's Mossad and their neo-con allies in the Bush administration. Not only has Bout enjoyed the largesse of Pentagon logistics contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan but when she was National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice rejected a Sharjah police offer to arrest Bout at Sharjah International Airport. Rice told U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies that when it came to Bout they should "look but don't touch."

Brammertz's proposed tribunal has had the strong backing of unconfirmed, recess appointed US ambassador to the UN John Bolton and Secretary of State Rice but with the Bush 41 group taking over the reins at the Pentagon with a mandate to purge most of the neo-con elements nested there, the State Department will soon find its plans for the Lebanon tribunal spiked by Iraq Study Group members determined to patch up relations with Syria and pro-Syrian Lebanese President Emile Lahoud in return for their help in extricating the United States from the Iraq quagmire. Attempts by Bush to push through Bolton's permanent nomination as UN ambassador in the lame duck Senate are reportedly "dead on arrival."

The detente with Syria and its Lebanese allies is sure to irritate the neo-cons loyal to Vice President Dick Cheney but as the article below suggests, Cheney's days as well as those of his allies may be numbered. With Cheney's mentor Rumsfeld now out of the Pentagon, the Cheney wing of the administration is extremely vulnerable.

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#21. To: swarthyguy (#8)

I was inclined to believe the administration's suggestions that Iraq was behind the anthrax. Perhaps I should have investigated that matter more, but (1) it remains unclear just who was responsible for them. And (2) I didn't think it mattered all that much, because I also believed the lies of supposed experts like Bernard Lewis and Kenneth Pollack that the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   16:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)

Hey, I'm a lawyer!

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   16:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: aristeides (#21)

I also believed

That's the worst part, isn't it? But, it certainly was one of the great propaganda catapults of all time. Forging the consensus for the Invasion of Iraq.

I cringe when I see Pollack pontificating on Iran these days (CSpan seminar).

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-10   16:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: aristeides (#19) (Edited)

You must not remember how Madsen was reporting about NSA snooping programs about a year before the New York Times "broke" the story.

NSA snooping on American phone calls? Wow, how tough was that to deduce. I'm sure you were as shocked by the revelation as I was.

Yawn, everybody knew it and have known it for decades. All Madsen did is say the Bush administration was doing the same thing that we already new two previous administrations did. Some genius.

And about the NY Times breaking the story, it had been broken over and over and over before, by CBS, The Washington Post, and even before by the NY Times itself. They trot it out every 5 or six years or when a new administration comes in and everyone is 'shocked, shocked I tells ya' because they're too stupid to remember the last time it was reported. Call me unimpressed at Madsen's "breaking" investigations.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-10   17:04:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SmokinOPs (#24)

I did not know that the Bush administration was conducting illegal surveillance on U.S. people, in violation of the FISA law. I don't think many people knew. If you knew, you were very much in the minority.

And I was in military signals intelligence for many years, by the way, and constantly observed how surveillance was conducted consistent with FISA.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   17:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: aristeides (#25)

I did not know that the Bush administration was conducting illegal surveillance on U.S. people, in violation of the FISA law. I don't think many people knew. If you knew, you were very much in the minority.

So let's get this straight, you knew that the government had the ability to secretly tap anyone's phone in America without a warrant but you didn't think they were actually doing it? I think Michael Corleone summed it up with "Who's being naive, Kay?"

I suppose you also didn't know that the CIA and military tortured people and held them incommuicado until the media confirmed it for you. Did you miss the Church Committee, the secret war in Cambodia, the repression during WWI of dissidents, the Red Scare, Lincoln and habeus corpus? Put it this way, if the government has the opportunity and the means to do something underhanded, you're safe to assume they are because they always have a motive.

If you are operating under the premise that Bush is some special case and his power grabs are unprecedented, then you are either ignorant or delusional. The Wilson and Lincoln administrations make Bush look like a piker. What Madsen did was like shooting fish in a barrel if one has any historical knowledge.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-10   17:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: SmokinOPs (#26)

So let's get this straight, you knew that the government had the ability to secretly tap anyone's phone in America without a warrant but you didn't think they were actually doing it? I think Michael Corleone summed it up with "Who's being naive, Kay?"

I worked in the outfits where it would have been done, and I could see that it was not being done. As a matter of fact, I and everybody else who worked in those outfits had to undergo yearly indoctrination reminding us that doing it would be illegal.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   17:39:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: aristeides (#27) (Edited)

As a matter of fact, I and everybody else who worked in those outfits had to undergo yearly indoctrination reminding us that doing it would be illegal.

I'm supposed to believe that the evil Bush just came in and totally changed the culture of the NSA and got them to break the law? So how did that go down? What did that conversation between the NSA administrator and the intercept technician look like?

NSA admin: "Hey Bob, you know how we've been telling you every year for the past 5 years that intercepting Americans' phone calls is illegal?"

tech: "Umm, yeah."

NSA admin: "Ehh, well, umm, there's been a change. It's fine and dandy to do now."

tech: "Okie dokie, boss. Can do."

NSA admin: "I knew I could count on you Bob. Your country appreciates your service."

Nope, not buying it. Apparently that wasn't your department.

And you are aware that Madsen was part of a lawsuit in 2000 because he suspected exactly what was going on under Bush? So it was just a matter of him tapping out his previous suspicions on a keyboard, ascribing them to the Bush administration, posting them to a website and waiting to be proven right.

I can do the same thing right here. I don't know 100% that the NSA intercepts corporate communications and then blackmails them with the threat of revealing trade secrets to their competition or crimes to the SEC in order to get them to play ball for whatever plan of the month they have going at the time. But I'd be willing to bet the farm they do, and if I owned a newspaper I'd report it and ascribe it to confidential sources without a hint of remorse and total confidence all would be revealed somewhere down the line. It's a given.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-10   18:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: SmokinOPs (#28)

When I pulled reserve duty at NSA in the 90's, I knew civil servants in that organization who considered me a fascist because I did not disapprove of Iran- Contra. The civil servants -- and especially the lawyers -- at NSA at that time were much more sticklers for civil liberties than military officers like myself.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   18:31:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: aristeides (#22)

Hey, I'm a lawyer!

Yes, but we still like you anyway.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-11-10   18:41:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: aristeides (#29)

When I pulled reserve duty at NSA in the 90's

I'm impressed with your current 20/20 vision. You worked in the belly of the beast so to speak and yet you yourself seem to have not had your perspectives warped by being a part of that culture of "quiet power" ( do most Americans even know much about the NSA much less worry about it?). How did you keep yourself grounded - family, friends?

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-10   18:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: scrapper2 (#31)

My principles were largely established by a Catholic education. I saw Communism as a dangerous enough enemy to warrant some compromising of our principles (even though, after the fact, it looks as if that danger may have been exaggerated.) I just do not see militant Islam as being anything like that kind of danger. It might kill a few thousand Americans, but in itself it presents no threat at all to our institutions. Only an overreaction on our part can do that.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   18:52:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: aristeides, bluedogtxn (#22)

Hey, I'm a lawyer!

you two and only one or two others i can think of are exceptions to the crummy lawyers rule. :P

When will they learn that a heart doesn't draw the line...

christine  posted on  2006-11-10   19:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: aristeides (#32)

My principles were largely established by a Catholic education.

Oh yes, I am intimately familiar with those wonderful Catholic values. My older sibling went through parochial schooling. My parents believed that I was sufficiently guilt and anxiety ridden by nature that I could attend public schools and still end up being a good Catholic.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-10   19:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: aristeides (#29)

I knew civil servants in that organization who considered me a fascist because I did not disapprove of Iran- Contra. The civil servants -- and especially the lawyers -- at NSA at that time were much more sticklers for civil liberties than military officers like myself.

Do you think the older civil servants have been retired or otherwise forced out of NSA to facilitate Bush's illegal wiretapping? And is it possible that those civil servants were replaced by military indoctrinated people, much as we see in law enforcement and the militarization of the police?

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-10   19:24:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: aristeides (#32)

I saw Communism as a dangerous enough enemy to warrant some compromising of our principles (even though, after the fact, it looks as if that danger may have been exaggerated.) I just do not see militant Islam as being anything like that kind of danger. It might kill a few thousand Americans, but in itself it presents no threat at all to our institutions. Only an overreaction on our part can do that.

Your analysis is always appreciated.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-10   21:04:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: BTP Holdings (#35)

I've lost touch, but Wayne Madsen claims there's been quite a purge at the NSA.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   21:38:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: aristeides (#37)

My former roommate is there and he thinks I'm an anarchist.

He can't stand Cambone.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-11-10   21:46:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#37)

Wayne Madsen claims there's been quite a purge at the NSA.

Madsen seems to have been there before your time and kept his contacts among his peers. Much of what I gather has come from his reports. And from the feedback I get from Donn de Grand Pre, he seems to think Madsen is on the money.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-10   21:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: aristeides (#0)

oh i hope this rumor proves to be true...

Rock gives children, on a silver platter, with all the public authority of the entertainment industry, everything their parents always used to tell them they had to wait for until they grew up and would understand later. --Allan Bloom

"The disgusting stink of a too loud electric guitar; now that's my idea of a good time." -- Frank Zappa

gargantuton  posted on  2006-11-10   21:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

he thinks I'm an anarchist.

My definition of anarchy is when the gov't fails to follow the law. We seem to have that at this juncture.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-10   21:57:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Fred Mertz (#38)

Did you see the report that Cambone may be about to resign?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   22:00:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: aristeides (#0)

The detente with Syria and its Lebanese allies is sure to irritate the neo-cons loyal to Vice President Dick Cheney but as the article below suggests, Cheney's days as well as those of his allies may be numbered.

It will be wonderful to see Addington get the deep six with Cheney also.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-10   22:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: BTP Holdings, Fred Mertz (#43)

Addington and Gonzales were both washouts in their first year at military academies (Annapolis in Addington's case, Air Force at Colorado Spring in Gonzales's.)

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-10   22:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: aristeides (#0)

Hopefully on his shield. God, I loathe that nazi. I think the whole American Empire neocon movement is collapsing, and without them, the GOP really has no organizing principles. Maybe they'll go back to good government, low taxes, low spending, economic growth and all those other commie ideas they used to have.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-11-10   22:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: SmokinOPs (#7)

And can anyone give an account of when ANY of Madsen's predictive stories came to fruition?

Madsen reported that Rumsfeld would be dumped and replaced by Gates the week previous.

He was the first to report details of the attempted US coup against Chavez - which was later confirmed thru numerous sources.

Madsen was formerly employed in the NSA and the U.S. military. He has many sources in intelligence and the military.

ratcat  posted on  2006-11-11   2:42:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: aristeides (#42)

Did you see the report that Cambone may be about to resign?

If I understand correctly, all under secretaries will submit letters of resignation, as a formality. Most of them won't be accepted. Cambone's resignation will be accepted, at least according to my buddy.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-11-12   12:32:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin (#1)

James Baker. Traitor.

All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.

angle  posted on  2006-11-12   13:01:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: angle (#48)

James Baker. Traitor.

Yes, that's what the Israelis call him in the "talkback" sections of Haaretz and Ynet.

I call Baker a friend - the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-12   13:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: scrapper2, angle (#49)

I think Baker's disenchanted with Israel right now, but I would never trust him. He's in the inner circle of the Bush Cabal.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   13:07:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: robin (#6) (Edited)

The Bush Cabal knew it was a lie of their own creation, to turn Iraq into one bloody money-laundering scheme, and for one or two other reasons.

Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, Ashcroft, Gonzales, Wolf, Perle, Baker, Poppy, Chert, Fitz, certain senators and congress are traitors. Get 'em.

All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.

angle  posted on  2006-11-12   13:23:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin, All (#50)

I think Baker's disenchanted with Israel right now, but I would never trust him. He's in the inner circle of the Bush Cabal.

I did not say I would ever trust a weasel like Baker. I said I embrace him as a friend now because the Israelis appear to hate him - they really do - and they do not like Poppy one bit either. I even read a few Israel nutters claim that they viewed Poppy to be anti-semetic in persuation. Bizarre. Maybe Poppy tried to cut back a dollar or 2 in foreign aid to Israel? - who knows - but I need to do more research on Baker and 41 to figure out where all that Israeli distrust and malice is coming from. Does anyone here know why that would be apart from the fact that Poppy and Baker represent the "realism" school of political thought?

scrapper2  posted on  2006-11-12   13:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: scrapper2 (#49)

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

Baker, the enemy and enabler of the enemy is our enemy.

All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.

angle  posted on  2006-11-12   13:26:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: scrapper2, angle (#52) (Edited)

the Israelis appear to hate him - they really do - and they do not like Poppy one bit either.

If so maybe it's because they have a disagreement about the Ralph Peters' "after" map of the Middle East.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   13:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: mehitable (#20)

The grown-ups

Please refer to them as the crimminals they are.

All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.

angle  posted on  2006-11-12   13:30:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: aristeides (#29) (Edited)

I knew civil servants in that organization who considered me a fascist because I did not disapprove of Iran- Contra.

Um, why did you not disapprove of Iran-Contra? Check that. I see that you explained why in a subsquent post.

It turns out that the Communist threat was as contrived as the "Islamicist" threat. I was unaware of our long history of meddling in Nicaragua. Now, having read "Overthrow", I understand their deep antipathy. It is fully justified. Communist "threat" notwithstanding, we should have let them be (for once).

By the way. In my benighted conservative ignorance, I supported the Iran-Contra criminals at the time too, so I understand.

Have you ever read Terry Reed's "Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA"? If so, what's your take on his insider story of the Clinton/Bush spook-partnership and covert drug running by the CIA?

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-11-12   14:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: aristeides (#29)

Whatever else, it was a neat idea. Arms to Iran via Israel to counter Iraq's support from our allies, the Sunni Gulf states, who were helping us fund the Contras while we were using BNL bank of Atlanta to help Iraq.

One mystery of Iran Contra is that the story was broken by some rag in Beirut.

Sunnis, like the Saudis had motive, but it's worth noting that it wasn't intrepid American investigative journalism that broke the story.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-12   15:01:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Arator (#56)

Clinton helped the Reagan Bush crowd by not publicising the use of Mena for various shenanigans.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-12   15:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: scrapper2 (#49)

I call Baker a friend - the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Don't get too chummy with Baker. He is a stalwart of CFR and a top dog in the Carlyle Group. Baker is deeply involved with the Bush Crime Family.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-12   15:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Arator (#56)

I have a copy of Compromised, but I still haven't gotten around to reading it.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-12   18:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: aristeides (#60)

I have a copy of Compromised, but I still haven't gotten around to reading it.

What are you waiting for? It's one hell of a read.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-11-13   0:47:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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