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Title: MADSEN: CHENEY ON THE WAY OUT?
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Wayne Madsen Report
URL Source: http://waynemadsenreport.com/
Published: Nov 10, 2006
Author: Wayne Madsen
Post Date: 2006-11-10 13:27:22 by aristeides
Keywords: None
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Comments: 61
November 10/11/12, 2006 -- The impending partial purge of the Bush 43 neo-cons by the incoming cadre of Bush 41 officials is already having an effect on U.S.-Syrian relations. Intelligence sources report that the Bush 41 team, still grateful for Syrian President Hafez al Assad's support for Operation Desert Storm, is working to exonerate Bashar Assad, Assad's son, for his government's alleged role in the February 2005 car bomb assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. WMR has previously reported that Hariri's assassination was ordered by neo-cons in Israel and the United States who wanted to implement their "Clean Break" policy in order to drive Syrian occupation troops out of Lebanon and then engineer wars with the Lebanese Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran. With the Iraq Study Group led by Bush 41 Secretary of State James Baker and including Defense Secretary-designate Robert Gates engaged in negotiations with Syria to work out an American military withdrawal from Iraq, the neo-con charges against Syria for the Hariri assassination are being cast aside, according to U.S. intelligence sources. The behind-the-scenes negotiations with Damascus reportedly will curtail moves by chief UN investigator Serge Brammertz to convene a UN "Lebanon Special Tribunal" to try members of the Lebanese and Syrian governments for the Hariri assassination. In fact, the incoming "realpolitik" advisers to the Bush administration are already taking steps to lay blame for the assassination on operatives linked to notorious Russian-Israeli Mafia weapons smuggler and Defense Department air transport contractor Viktor Bout. Such an assignment of blame is designed to send a friendly signal to Damascus while signaling to Jerusalem that the blame for the Hariri assassination is being laid very close but not actually on the doorstep of Israel's Mossad and their neo-con allies in the Bush administration. Not only has Bout enjoyed the largesse of Pentagon logistics contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan but when she was National Security Adviser, Condoleezza Rice rejected a Sharjah police offer to arrest Bout at Sharjah International Airport. Rice told U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies that when it came to Bout they should "look but don't touch." Brammertz's proposed tribunal has had the strong backing of unconfirmed, recess appointed US ambassador to the UN John Bolton and Secretary of State Rice but with the Bush 41 group taking over the reins at the Pentagon with a mandate to purge most of the neo-con elements nested there, the State Department will soon find its plans for the Lebanon tribunal spiked by Iraq Study Group members determined to patch up relations with Syria and pro-Syrian Lebanese President Emile Lahoud in return for their help in extricating the United States from the Iraq quagmire. Attempts by Bush to push through Bolton's permanent nomination as UN ambassador in the lame duck Senate are reportedly "dead on arrival." The detente with Syria and its Lebanese allies is sure to irritate the neo-cons loyal to Vice President Dick Cheney but as the article below suggests, Cheney's days as well as those of his allies may be numbered. With Cheney's mentor Rumsfeld now out of the Pentagon, the Cheney wing of the administration is extremely vulnerable.
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#1. To: aristeides, *Wayne Madsen Report* (#0)
Good news. There have been rumors that after the election this could happen.
Since the increasingly-besieged Cheney has signaled he has no intention of voluntarily stepping down, the strategy by the Bush camp may be to force him out by presenting evidence before Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald that it was Cheney who was responsible for the compromise of CIA non-proliferation covert officer Valerie Plame Wilson and her Brewster Jennings & Associates cover firm. Observers note the unusual professional relationship between Fitzgerald and Karl Rove's defense attorney Robert Luskin. Insiders believe that Fitzgerald may be proffered a carefully crafted deal by Luskin whereby Rove will testify to Cheney's primary role in the outing of Mrs. Wilson and her firm. The sealed indictment of Rove will then be retired permanently. If such a deal is worked out, Fitzgerald may then offer a deal to Lewis I. "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's former Chief of Staff, to also testify against Cheney. With such double-barreled testimony, President Bush will then be compelled to ask Cheney for his resignation or face a very nasty and public indictment. The game plan appears to be what DC insider Sally Quinn foresaw in her Washington Post op-ed last month, an article that suggested she has spoken extensively to a Donald Rumsfeld who was aware of his impending firing. The op-ed stated that Rumsfeld would not be the scapegoat for Iraq and planned to resign shortly after the election. Quinn, seemingly channeling Rumsfeld, stated that after Rumsfeld left, there will be only two scapegoats left: Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. The article concluded by asking which person would be served up as the official scapegoat for Iraq. This editor wrote, "based on the arrival of James Baker and a coterie of George H. W. Bush old hands on the scene to bail out Dubya, it is clear that the Bush family does not intend to allow one of its own to be declared scapegoat." With word from White House sources that Cheney was opposed to the sacking of his old mentor Rumsfeld and even more resistant to the naming of Bush family loyalist Robert Gates to take his place, it is clear that Cheney doesnot want to be placed in a position of exposure. However, even Cheney neo-con allies like Richard Perle and Ken Adelman, sensing that Cheney is the designated scapegoat, have bellowed about the Iraq war being a mistake and are now distancing themselves from the Cheney group, once the most powerful operating cell within the Bush administration. A further report by Madsen. I remember that op ed in the Washington Post.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
A story I read overseas in the IHT but never reported here said plain as day that Powell had requested that Bout not be arrested. Said plain as day that Bout was under US protection. The savior of Kunduz whose planes evacuated the Pakistani Army personnel from that besieged city in November 2001. Arms supplier to the Talib, too.
The op-ed stated that Rumsfeld would not be the scapegoat for Iraq and planned to resign shortly after the election. Quinn, seemingly channeling Rumsfeld, stated that after Rumsfeld left, there will be only two scapegoats left: Dick Cheney and George W. Bush. The article concluded by asking which person would be served up as the official scapegoat for Iraq. This editor wrote, "based on the arrival of James Baker and a coterie of George H. W. Bush old hands on the scene to bail out Dubya, it is clear that the Bush family does not intend to allow one of its own to be declared scapegoat." This actually makes logical sense.
Actually, it's all of us. Over 75% of Americans believed Saddam did 911, that Saddam had WMD, and supported the invasion. Our soldiers went there with a revengeful mindset.
But only because we were lied to. The Bush Cabal knew it was a lie of their own creation, to turn Iraq into one bloody money-laundering scheme, and for one or two other reasons.
And can anyone give an account of when ANY of Madsen's predictive stories came to fruition? Half the crap that comes out of this guy would be grounds for a libel case if anyone even paid attention to him.
And ones we WILLINGLY believed. Don't blame the Liar, how about the ones who bought the crap. Face it, for the all disdain heaped upon Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the NeoCons, they wouldn't have been able to do it unless we believed their take and then SUPPORTED them. If a country's leaders lie to its citizens, and the citizens believe them, shouldn't the citizens bear some responsibility for not researching the issue themselves, and being able to see through the lies. It wasn't as if there weren't naysayers asking entirely logical, historically based questions. It's hard to absolve the responsibility of American citizens; we don't give the Germans a pass about buying Hitler's lies on Sudetenland and Poland.
True enough. But most of the ones at the top finally paid for it.
Considering all of this, I would say that Bolton's confirmation is DOA in the Dem contolled Senate.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Did anyone catch Bush's Freudian Slip? Why did he mention retaining BOTH Cheney & Rummy? What's going on in the background? Hmmmmmm!
Out with Cheney...in with Lieberman?
He will never be elected to that position nor to the position he aspires, so I guess being chosen is the next best thing. Actually, I think it will be McCain. He caved on the torture bill, they owe him.
Both of them are Ziocon-influenced war hawks and confirmed globalists. If either of those two are put into the Veep position, expect the nasty foreign policy of this country to take a permanent turn toward continued war against the few hold out nations who are against the New World Order. All of it with the cooperation and complicity of Russia and China. One thing that we will not see, however, is an attack against Iran. This would enrage the Chinese who have mega deals with the Iranians for both natural gas and oil. As a plum concession we will see continued western influence in the Caspian basin oil and gas fields with eventual construction of the trans-Afghan pipelines to the port in Gwandar. Despite the recent military set backs in Afghanistan, there will be pressure put on the Taliban to make a deal with the government in Kabul to end the fighting. This will be one of the side benefits of the Bush41 team of old hand foreign policy people coming back into the picture. If there is a deal to be cut, they know which skids to grease with cash to get it done. It will be back to business as usual. The globalist corporations will get their way if at all possible.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Has anyone considered the fact that Dick Cheney is so unpopular that he was not even able to boost his approval ratings after blasting a lawyer with a shotgun?
Cheney's days as well as those of his allies may be numbered. With Cheney's mentor Rumsfeld now out of the Pentagon, the Cheney wing of the administration is extremely vulnerable.
#2. To: All (#0)
November 10/11/12, 2006 -- According to Washington insiders, there are moves afoot to dump Vice President Dick Cheney and replace him with either John McCain or Rudolph Giuliani prior to the 2008 presidential election. Whoever succeeds Cheney will be able to campaign for the presidency with the perks that come with being an incumbent Vice President.
#3. To: aristeides (#0)
a Sharjah police offer to arrest Bout at Sharjah International Airport.
#4. To: aristeides, *Plamegate* (#2)
Since the increasingly-besieged Cheney has signaled he has no intention of voluntarily stepping down, the strategy by the Bush camp may be to force him out by presenting evidence before Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald that it was Cheney who was responsible for the compromise of CIA non-proliferation covert officer Valerie Plame Wilson and her Brewster Jennings & Associates cover firm.
#5. To: robin (#4)
the official scapegoat for Iraq.
#6. To: swarthyguy (#5)
#7. To: aristeides (#2)
A further report by Madsen.
#8. To: robin (#6)
But only because we were lied to
#9. To: swarthyguy (#8)
It's hard to absolve the responsibility of American citizens; we don't give the Germans a pass about buying Hitler's lies on Sudetenland and Poland.
#10. To: aristeides (#0)
WMR has previously reported that Hariri's assassination was ordered by neo-cons in Israel and the United States who wanted to implement their "Clean Break" policy in order to drive Syrian occupation troops out of Lebanon and then engineer wars with the Lebanese Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran. With the Iraq Study Group led by Bush 41 Secretary of State James Baker and including Defense Secretary-designate Robert Gates engaged in negotiations with Syria to work out an American military withdrawal from Iraq, the neo-con charges against Syria for the Hariri assassination are being cast aside, according to U.S. intelligence sources.
#11. To: aristeides, all (#0)
#12. To: robin (#1)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#13. To: who knows what evil (#12)
(Edited)
#14. To: aristeides (#2)
According to Washington insiders, there are moves afoot to dump Vice President Dick Cheney and replace him with either John McCain or Rudolph Giuliani prior to the 2008 presidential election.
#15. To: aristeides (#0)
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#16. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)
LOL!!! A sad state of affairs indeed.
Has anyone considered the fact that Dick Cheney is so unpopular that he was not even able to boost his approval ratings after blasting a lawyer with a shotgun?
#17. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)
lol !
When will they learn that a heart doesn't draw the line...
#18. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)
IIRC, OJ Simpson has hiring approval ratings than Cheney.
Has anyone considered the fact that Dick Cheney is so unpopular that he was not even able to boost his approval ratings after blasting a lawyer with a shotgun?
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
#19. To: SmokinOPs (#7)
You must not remember how Madsen was reporting about NSA snooping programs about a year before the New York Times "broke" the story.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#20. To: aristeides (#0)
The grown-ups wrasseled the remote from Junior.
"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."
#21. To: swarthyguy (#8)
I was inclined to believe the administration's suggestions that Iraq was behind the anthrax. Perhaps I should have investigated that matter more, but (1) it remains unclear just who was responsible for them. And (2) I didn't think it mattered all that much, because I also believed the lies of supposed experts like Bernard Lewis and Kenneth Pollack that the Iraqis would welcome us as liberators.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#22. To: Elliott Jackalope (#15)
Hey, I'm a lawyer!
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#23. To: aristeides (#21)
That's the worst part, isn't it? But, it certainly was one of the great propaganda catapults of all time. Forging the consensus for the Invasion of Iraq. I cringe when I see Pollack pontificating on Iran these days (CSpan seminar).
I also believed
#24. To: aristeides (#19) (Edited)
NSA snooping on American phone calls? Wow, how tough was that to deduce. I'm sure you were as shocked by the revelation as I was. Yawn, everybody knew it and have known it for decades. All Madsen did is say the Bush administration was doing the same thing that we already new two previous administrations did. Some genius. And about the NY Times breaking the story, it had been broken over and over and over before, by CBS, The Washington Post, and even before by the NY Times itself. They trot it out every 5 or six years or when a new administration comes in and everyone is 'shocked, shocked I tells ya' because they're too stupid to remember the last time it was reported. Call me unimpressed at Madsen's "breaking" investigations.
You must not remember how Madsen was reporting about NSA snooping programs about a year before the New York Times "broke" the story.
#25. To: SmokinOPs (#24)
I did not know that the Bush administration was conducting illegal surveillance on U.S. people, in violation of the FISA law. I don't think many people knew. If you knew, you were very much in the minority. And I was in military signals intelligence for many years, by the way, and constantly observed how surveillance was conducted consistent with FISA.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#26. To: aristeides (#25)
So let's get this straight, you knew that the government had the ability to secretly tap anyone's phone in America without a warrant but you didn't think they were actually doing it? I think Michael Corleone summed it up with "Who's being naive, Kay?" I suppose you also didn't know that the CIA and military tortured people and held them incommuicado until the media confirmed it for you. Did you miss the Church Committee, the secret war in Cambodia, the repression during WWI of dissidents, the Red Scare, Lincoln and habeus corpus? Put it this way, if the government has the opportunity and the means to do something underhanded, you're safe to assume they are because they always have a motive. If you are operating under the premise that Bush is some special case and his power grabs are unprecedented, then you are either ignorant or delusional. The Wilson and Lincoln administrations make Bush look like a piker. What Madsen did was like shooting fish in a barrel if one has any historical knowledge.
I did not know that the Bush administration was conducting illegal surveillance on U.S. people, in violation of the FISA law. I don't think many people knew. If you knew, you were very much in the minority.
#27. To: SmokinOPs (#26)
I worked in the outfits where it would have been done, and I could see that it was not being done. As a matter of fact, I and everybody else who worked in those outfits had to undergo yearly indoctrination reminding us that doing it would be illegal.
So let's get this straight, you knew that the government had the ability to secretly tap anyone's phone in America without a warrant but you didn't think they were actually doing it? I think Michael Corleone summed it up with "Who's being naive, Kay?"
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#28. To: aristeides (#27) (Edited)
I'm supposed to believe that the evil Bush just came in and totally changed the culture of the NSA and got them to break the law? So how did that go down? What did that conversation between the NSA administrator and the intercept technician look like? NSA admin: "Hey Bob, you know how we've been telling you every year for the past 5 years that intercepting Americans' phone calls is illegal?" tech: "Umm, yeah." NSA admin: "Ehh, well, umm, there's been a change. It's fine and dandy to do now." tech: "Okie dokie, boss. Can do." NSA admin: "I knew I could count on you Bob. Your country appreciates your service." Nope, not buying it. Apparently that wasn't your department. And you are aware that Madsen was part of a lawsuit in 2000 because he suspected exactly what was going on under Bush? So it was just a matter of him tapping out his previous suspicions on a keyboard, ascribing them to the Bush administration, posting them to a website and waiting to be proven right. I can do the same thing right here. I don't know 100% that the NSA intercepts corporate communications and then blackmails them with the threat of revealing trade secrets to their competition or crimes to the SEC in order to get them to play ball for whatever plan of the month they have going at the time. But I'd be willing to bet the farm they do, and if I owned a newspaper I'd report it and ascribe it to confidential sources without a hint of remorse and total confidence all would be revealed somewhere down the line. It's a given.
As a matter of fact, I and everybody else who worked in those outfits had to undergo yearly indoctrination reminding us that doing it would be illegal.
#29. To: SmokinOPs (#28)
When I pulled reserve duty at NSA in the 90's, I knew civil servants in that organization who considered me a fascist because I did not disapprove of Iran- Contra. The civil servants -- and especially the lawyers -- at NSA at that time were much more sticklers for civil liberties than military officers like myself.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#30. To: aristeides (#22)
Yes, but we still like you anyway.
Hey, I'm a lawyer!
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
#31. To: aristeides (#29)
I'm impressed with your current 20/20 vision. You worked in the belly of the beast so to speak and yet you yourself seem to have not had your perspectives warped by being a part of that culture of "quiet power" ( do most Americans even know much about the NSA much less worry about it?). How did you keep yourself grounded - family, friends?
When I pulled reserve duty at NSA in the 90's
#32. To: scrapper2 (#31)
My principles were largely established by a Catholic education. I saw Communism as a dangerous enough enemy to warrant some compromising of our principles (even though, after the fact, it looks as if that danger may have been exaggerated.) I just do not see militant Islam as being anything like that kind of danger. It might kill a few thousand Americans, but in itself it presents no threat at all to our institutions. Only an overreaction on our part can do that.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#33. To: aristeides, bluedogtxn (#22)
you two and only one or two others i can think of are exceptions to the crummy lawyers rule. :P
Hey, I'm a lawyer!
When will they learn that a heart doesn't draw the line...
#34. To: aristeides (#32)
Oh yes, I am intimately familiar with those wonderful Catholic values. My older sibling went through parochial schooling. My parents believed that I was sufficiently guilt and anxiety ridden by nature that I could attend public schools and still end up being a good Catholic.
My principles were largely established by a Catholic education.
#35. To: aristeides (#29)
Do you think the older civil servants have been retired or otherwise forced out of NSA to facilitate Bush's illegal wiretapping? And is it possible that those civil servants were replaced by military indoctrinated people, much as we see in law enforcement and the militarization of the police?
I knew civil servants in that organization who considered me a fascist because I did not disapprove of Iran- Contra. The civil servants -- and especially the lawyers -- at NSA at that time were much more sticklers for civil liberties than military officers like myself.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#36. To: aristeides (#32)
Your analysis is always appreciated.
I saw Communism as a dangerous enough enemy to warrant some compromising of our principles (even though, after the fact, it looks as if that danger may have been exaggerated.) I just do not see militant Islam as being anything like that kind of danger. It might kill a few thousand Americans, but in itself it presents no threat at all to our institutions. Only an overreaction on our part can do that.
#37. To: BTP Holdings (#35)
I've lost touch, but Wayne Madsen claims there's been quite a purge at the NSA.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#38. To: aristeides (#37)
My former roommate is there and he thinks I'm an anarchist. He can't stand Cambone.
#39. To: aristeides (#37)
Madsen seems to have been there before your time and kept his contacts among his peers. Much of what I gather has come from his reports. And from the feedback I get from Donn de Grand Pre, he seems to think Madsen is on the money.
Wayne Madsen claims there's been quite a purge at the NSA.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#40. To: aristeides (#0)
oh i hope this rumor proves to be true...
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