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Title: Kill that Old [English] Hag!
Source: exile.ru
URL Source: http://www.exile.ru/2006-May-19/kill_that_old_hag.html
Published: May 19, 2006
Author: Kirill Pankratov
Post Date: 2006-11-11 20:40:36 by Destro
Keywords: None
Views: 767
Comments: 75

Kill that Old Hag!

By Kirill Pankratov ( pkirill88@hotmail.com )

Kirill Pankratov takes a big Russian dump on Britain's chest...and that pathetic island is all the better for it...

http://www.exile.ru/transient/238/pantratov2.jpg

ACTON, MASS - A recent Woody Allen movie Match Point, set in and around London, borrows heavily from the Dostoyevskian theme in Crime and Punishment. But of course, in Hollywood tradition it couldn't show the dark gloomy tenements of the 19th century with starving students. Instead of a poor Raskolnikov in shabby clothes, Allen shows a sleek yuppie in a good suit, and a gorgeous babe - an aspiring actress - rather than a vile old wench as a sacrificial beast.

How realistic. Have you seen many pretty blonde chicks in modern England? Not unless they are foreigners (indeed the babe in the movie was American, but that's rare too). And then, of course, there is a tennis theme -exemplifying all that is supposed to be glamorous, fresh and sporty about British lifestyle. Add to that sugary flicks like "Wimbledon," where struggling but righteous British players triumph to the delightful squeals of the spectators. Really, do you remember the last time English tennis won anything? Bwaah! In fact all British tennis fans are reduced to drooling over Russian babes. Just imagine - hordes of those poor jobbers and clerks, with funny faces and accents, slobbering and cumming over Sharapova's overheads.

Forget tennis, do you remember the last time England was good at any sport? How many medals did it win in the Winter Olympics in Turin? One, and not even gold! That's three times less than Estonia, about 20 times less than Russia, and the same result as Bulgaria - a country which is neither large and rich, nor Nordic! That's the pathetic level which Britain sunk to, from the country which allegedly invented many modern sports.

To be perfectly fair, it is still pretty good at soccer. And that illustrates the only part of the old Britain that is worth having around - its lower classes, those riffraff soccer hooligans that terrorize European cities. Remember those wild Manchester United fans in the inane but funny Eurotrip movie? They are pretty cool actually. Way cooler than anything above that - the utterly degenerate middle and upper classes, those ugly walking potatoes still pretending to be great civilizers and sophisticates of the world. The soccer hooligans at least might serve some valuable purpose - as shock troops, the cannon fodder to smash the old order - first of all inside the England itself.

That brings me to the main point. Raskolnikov was actually right. That vile old bitch needed to be dealt with decisively, free the space to give somebody else a chance. And so is another old hag - that withered old Britain: it's long overdue for taking over and dismantling its rotting half-corpse.

The decline was long and tortuous, yet inevitable. After WWII it all went downhill fast. The last "great statesman," the toad-faced Winston Churchill, puffed pompously: "I am not going to preside over the liquidation of the British Empire." But of course he did, that old fart, together with his ineffectual successors.

In the next few years England was shown its proper place in a new world. When Egypt nationalized the Suez Canal in 1956, Israel, France and Britain attacked (the last two simply out to show they are still great powers). What happened then was a remarkable episode that utterly defied the binary logic of the Cold War. The US and the Soviet Union together deployed forces close to the war theater and told the aggressors to get the fuck out of there: the big boys will be talking. The Brits and French promptly did just that. And that's how this pathetic declawed lion should have been treated from that point on.

Post-war England at least had a kind of cultural renaissance. Out of the industrial decay of Liverpool and other cities came the Beatles, the Stones, and later punk. It is a natural thing - great new cultural achievements are born in the times of economic decay and social turmoil. But since then even that has gone to the dogs. What can it offer today - Robbie Williams?

Thatcher's reign provided a blip of economic resurgence, a dead cat bounce, but it's mostly fizzled out since then. In 1982, in a last gasp of fading imperial glory, Maggie "took a cruiser with both hands" to wrestle some god-forsaken islands in the middle of nowhere from a petty third-world dictator, who seized them to prop his failing populist stand. Argentina had just a handful of modern weapons - French-made Exocet missiles, mounted on WWII-era planes - but nevertheless sunk or nearly destroyed half a dozen of the biggest ships in the Royal Navy - the yesteryear's terror of the seas.

Since then, England's proud army is just a sidekick in America's imperial misadventures, chased out of their tanks in Iraq by a few stone-throwers. Its bloated, bloviating "intellectuals" - all those Hitchenses, Amises, Fergussons - are whispering in the American ear how they should be the world rulers, inheriting glorious traditions of the British Empire (really "Victoria's darlings, those brave, sunburnt pederasts in pith helmets who 'explored' Africa via enslavement, expropriation and massacre," the apt description by John Dolan), old impotent morlocks trying to inject their vile fantasies into a more able body.

England was made throughout history by repeated invasions from the continent. Each time the invaders formed the new elite, raping and pillaging the country's treasures and fair maidens, and injecting some new blood into the local plebs. It was a quite useful process; otherwise inbreeding was draining most of its vital force. It's been too long since the last invasion - almost a millennium. And it shows - in the degeneracy of the native populace, those sodden, pasty faces on the streets. This soggy island is long ripe for the new conquest - the rot is far too deep.

When visiting London recently, I was struck by the impression that the wrong babes were hidden in black hijabs and long robes on the streets and in the parks. There were Muslim women everywhere, but underneath the black clothes one could often recognize shapely legs and pretty faces which should be shown openly in a better world. On the other hand there were plenty of those pudgy, misshapen British lasses who really should cover themselves to beautify the surroundings.

For a time it seemed that Middle Eastern oil sheikhs would serve the function of the new conquerors - buying those damp old castles and Harrods and splurging on $5,000-a-bottle champagne in posh restaurants. But soon it became clear that they weren't up for the task, they couldn't graduate from camel-fucking to realigning the English gene pool. One can shove it in the ass of some bulimic royal princess: but it's just not enough. You need something of a greater caliber.

This is where the current wave of invaders - the Russians, comes handy.

That's right, Brits - who will be your future football champion will be determined solely by the whim of some former Russian orphan, just because he could not afford a decent soccer ball in his childhood. Get that?

The first wave of Russian expats in England, immediately after the Soviet collapse, was often a scary and near-sighted bunch, clawing at the few millions they managed to steal and wanting nothing but to lay low in London. The later wave of Russians began to ingratiate itself into London high society, buying its way into the aristocracy. But more and more they question the need for that. Why bother adjusting themselves to those perverted weirdoes, to be poor relations instead of the new masters of the place? And that's what they should really be doing in the upcoming years.

There are still some decent places there - those dank but beautiful fortresses and abbeys, perfectly manicured lawns, some great actors and theater performances. In short, it was like in the last decaying years of Ancient Greece - it supplied the whole Mediterranean world with old sculptures, actors and clowns, philosophers and bookworms.

The problem though is that the American global empire that plays the role of Ancient Rome is now also entering its senile stage.

It is time for a new shift - for the eastern, Byzantine conquest. You need to wipe the whole place clean. Just shut the whole shack and begin anew. By 2066 it should be completely remodeled, so that only a few signs of that odious Victorian buffoonery remain. This is the project of the current century. The world will be a better place when it is over.

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#1. To: All (#0)

Caught red-handed :: British Undercover Operatives in Iraq

Were British Special Forces Soldiers Planting Bombs in Basra?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-11   20:47:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Destro (#0) (Edited)

There is no skiing in Britain, so winter sports are out. Their army has done a far better job in Iraq than ours, in that they are not so trigger happy. As far as the women go, the English rose is as fair as ever; your prejudices are showing rather glaringly.

And you failed to answer my question about Scotland.


Keira Knightley


Kate Winslet


Kate Beckinsale

from earlier times:


Julie Christie playing a Russian


Deborah Kerr


violet eyes, Liz Taylor

going back even further in time:


Fanny Kemble

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   21:10:37 ET  (7 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Destro (#1)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1440836,00.html

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   21:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#2) (Edited)

Those were not English women. Vivian Leigh was also Welsh Leigh = "Fair one."

For example Catherine Zeta-Jones is part Welsh and Greek. Fanny Kemble was also Welsh as is Liz Taylor. Deborah Kerr is Scottish.

Welsh and Scots are not English and Scotland came close to seeking independence from England just a few years ago.

This American ignorance of the world pains me.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-11   21:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Destro (#4)

Kill that Old [British] Hag!

Well this is what you posted on the other thread. I'll remove the welsh nymphomaniac and the half Greek.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   21:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

Liz Taylor is probably showing on your screen because you have the image in your computer, I would check the link, I'm showing the accursed red 'X'.

I'm always up for a picture of her in her prime. ;-D

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-11   21:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#5)

Great - removing the only good looking ones from your list.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-11   22:06:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)

This one shows her eye color a bit:

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/52500/52871ciKH_w.jpg

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   22:06:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Destro, Ferret Mike (#7)

Very funny! You're becoming predictable, BTW.


Madeleine Carroll

(the 30s had style)


Emma Thompson has style

And speaking of style...


Absolutely Fabulous

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   22:13:53 ET  (4 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9) (Edited)

My current favorite of English origin, Amanda Bynes, the next Lucille Ball.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-11   22:19:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ferret Mike (#10)

She's very cute. My mother and I enjoyed watching her in a light romance/comedy with Colin Firth, as her father, who is quite easy to look at ;P.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   23:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#9)

Tori Amos, singer and ivory tickler of extraordinary talent

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-11   23:08:36 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Tori Amos, singer and ivory tickler of extraordinary talent

I don't think I know her, is she a Celtic folk singer?

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-11   23:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#11)

"She's very cute. My mother and I enjoyed watching her in a light romance/comedy with Colin Firth, as her father, who is quite easy to look at ;P."

I don't watch TV and first saw her in 'She's the Man.'

I expected to suffer through a dorky teen film, but to my amazement she stole my heart. Damn that girl anyway. ;-D

She's the Man - Funny diner scene!

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-11   23:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin, Zipporah (#13) (Edited)

"I don't think I know her, is she a Celtic folk singer?"

Oh my, you really should listen to this woman, she is her own category; here's a good video by her:

Strange Little Girl

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-11   23:28:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin, Zipporah (#13) (Edited)

I am someone who bases music preference more on what I have seen live. I was astounded by her piano playing, voice and powerful stage presence.

Here is a video of a live performance which is closer to to having all the elements that impressed me greatly.

Tori Amos - Suede (Live from Jools Holland)

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-11   23:39:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Destro, robin, All (#0)

Kill that Old [English] Hag!

When I read the title it made the little hairs on the back of my neck stand up.

It took me a few seconds to realize why, those are the almost identical words Ilya Ehrenberg, Stalin's propaganda minister, used when he told the troops right after WWII was over to go into Prussia and kill the remaining inhabitants, old men, women and children.

His famous words were:

"Kill the blond German Hag!"

I haven't read the article yet, but will do so now.

That title sure sent shivers down my spine. My great-grandparents were among those killed in East Prussia by Soviet troops at that time.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Destro (#0)

Ah, this is from the Exile, started by those two very arrogant Jewish boys who moved to Moscow who look down on everyone and everything gentile. I read an article about them in Rolling Stone a few years ago, they talked about the Russian women as if they were cattle, they had no respect for anyone. They struck me as terrific jerks.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Destro (#4)

I read a book about Vivian Leigh, she was English, not Welsh.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Destro (#4)

Vivian Leigh was also Welsh Leigh = "Fair one."

Oh well, we were both wrong:

Leigh was born Vivian Mary Hartley in Darjeeling, British India to Ernest Hartley, an officer in the Indian Cavalry who was of English parentage, and Gertrude Robinson Yackje, who was of French and Irish descent.[1]

At least she was half English.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Destro, robin (#4)

For example Catherine Zeta-Jones is part Welsh and Greek. Fanny Kemble was also Welsh as is Liz Taylor. Deborah Kerr is Scottish.

Welsh and Scots are not English and Scotland came close to seeking independence from England just a few years ago.

This American ignorance of the world pains me.

Elizabeth Taylor was born in Hampstead, London, England, the second child of Francis Lenn Taylor (December 28, 1897 – November 20, 1968) and Sara Viola Warmbrodt (August 21, 1896 – September 11, 1994), who were Americans residing in England. Her older brother is Howard Taylor (born in 1929).

Fanny Kimble was born in London, Deborah Kerr was indeed Scottish.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:42:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Ferret Mike (#12)

Tori Amos, singer and ivory tickler of extraordinary talent

I thought Tori Amos was from Baltimore?!

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

Okey I looked it up, Tori Amos was born in Newton, NC, but moved to Baltimore when she was 2. I liked her song "Cornflake Girl" a lot.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   2:49:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Diana (#22)

Myra Ellen (Tori)Amos is the daughter of a minister from Newton, North Carolina originally. She is married to English sound engineer Mark Hawley. Together they have one daughter, Natashya "Tash" Lórien Hawley, born on September 5, 2000.

Amos was at the forefront of a number of female singer-songwriters in the early 1990s and is noteworthy as one of the few modern pop music stars to use a piano as her primary instrument. She is known for lyrically opaque but emotionally intense songs that tackle a wide range of subjects including sexuality, religion, patriarchy and personal tragedy. Some of her charting singles include "Crucify", "Silent All These Years", "Caught a Lite Sneeze", "Me and a Gun", "Jackie's Strength", "God", "Cornflake Girl", "A Sorta Fairytale", "Professional Widow" and "Spark".

Amos has experienced limited chart success in the United States and the United Kingdom, but has enjoyed a large cult following, selling around 12 million albums worldwide during her solo career. She is also known for making eccentric and at times ribald comments during interviews and in concerts, lending her a reputation as being highly individualistic.

>http://en.wikipedia.o rg/wiki/Tori_Amos

I like Tori allot. She is a genuine artist serving her art before the music industry. If you ever get a chance to see her, don't bypass it. Her concerts are something that stick with you a long time.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   3:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Diana (#23)

Okey I looked it up, Tori Amos was born in Newton, NC, but moved to Baltimore when she was 2. I liked her song "Cornflake Girl" a lot.

Heh, I was surfing too while you were doing that.

http://www.rainn.org/

She is a founding member of RAINN, the Rape Abuse Incest National Network and is their main spoke person.

http://everythingtori.com/go/home

My problem is I have toxic sensitivity to over commercial music and media. I am angry, jaded and can't hardly listen to radio or TV anymore. People like Tori restore my faith in artist and people who care about creativity, people, life and real culture for culture's sake.

Tori is genuine to her core, and she is a spectacular artist. Had she played the game, she would be much more commercially popular, and the process would have homogenized and cheapened her art.

Tori Amos is a needed breath of fresh air and I am glad she is out there.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   3:10:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

She is a founding member of RAINN, the Rape Abuse Incest National Network and is their main spoke person.

I saw her in concert on tv some years ago, and she was great. She had a great presense, lots of charisma, and very talented.

I'd read about her and read some interviews, and knew she was raped. I didn't know she started that organization, but I'm not surprised as she stikes me as a wonderful human being.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   3:19:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#25)

I like your NO MORE STUMPS picture.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   3:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Diana (#20)

Thanks for the correction regarding Leigh, and regarding Taylor, I forgot about her American origins - like Mel Gibson.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   10:05:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Ferret Mike (#16)

Thank you for this introduction. I don't like commercialism either, although it does give them faster name recognition.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   10:06:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Diana (#27)

Thanks, she was a nice young sweet gum. I tried saving her and five other trees cleared merely to make Eugene's only museum, the SMJ House you see there, a Queen Ann's Lace Victorian mansion more prominent.

My contention in doing that sit was the house was visible, and if they didn't want the trees, they could not replace them when they grew old and died.

I found out recently the thugs who came in the early hours and tried to panic me into falling were off duty cops. You can't see me well in that small a picture, but I am in that photo under the platform's black tarp.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   11:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin (#29)

"Thank you for this introduction."

My pleasure. I first heard about her when a friend I met had an airbrushed portrait of her on his leather jacket. I liked what I heard on her releases he had enough to go see her, after that I was hooked.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   11:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Diana (#19)

The surname Leigh is Welsh not Anglo.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   12:33:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Diana (#26) (Edited)

She is a founding member of RAINN, the Rape Abuse Incest National Network and is their main spoke person.

What's up with the English raping each other - especially their kids?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   12:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana (#17)

My great-grandparents were among those killed in East Prussia by Soviet troops at that time.

Blame Aryan superman Hitler's uni-testicled delusions of grandeur for him and the German people not the rightful vengeance visited upon the guilty.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   12:39:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Diana (#18) (Edited)

Ah, this is from the Exile, started by those two very arrogant Jewish boys who moved to Moscow who look down on everyone and everything gentile.

No, Fraulein.

It was founded by Mark Ames - an American Episcopalian. Exiles co-editor is John Carrol Dolan, also not Jewish.

Nothing funnier than a German who can't tell a real Jew from an imagined one.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   12:46:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Destro (#35)

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,,881985,00.html

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   12:51:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Destro (#35)

You mean, 'fräulein,' you forgot the accent.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   12:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: robin, Diana (#36) (Edited)

What does that have to do with the non-Jews who publish the exile? I pity the general lack of knowledge of Americans.

Exile.ru takes on the ADL & B'nai B'rith:

Jewish-American Organizations On NATO's Side

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   12:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Destro (#38)

It's related to what happened to Diana's grandparents and to what happened to Russia.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   12:56:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: robin (#39)

It's related to what happened to Diana's grandparents and to what happened to Russia.

Yea, her grandparent's country lost a war they initiated - tough. They had it coming like England has it coming. Get used to Russia owing England and using it as a summer vacation resort.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   13:03:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Ferret Mike, Diana (#37)

You mean, 'fräulein,' you forgot the accent.

She forgot how to tell apart Jews from non-Jews like her Prussian grandparent did.

Kind of important when you call people Jews and they turn out not to be, don't you think?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   13:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Destro (#33)

"What's up with the English raping each other - especially their kids?"

Who said RAINN is English about the English? Going for a matur debating merit badge this morning?

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   13:08:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Destro (#40)

There was a coup in Russia similar to the one going on the US now.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   13:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Ferret Mike (#42)

Who said RAINN is English about the English? Going for a matur debating merit badge this morning?

Tori Amos is English - get it! I thought it was hilarious!

What I find funny is the satire of exile.ru and how it makes Americans uncomfortable because they have been raised like vieal on censored news and views. Some freedom we Americans enjoy, eh? Not!

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   13:10:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#43)

There was a coup in Russia similar to the one going on the US now.

Yea, in Russia for the better because it chucked out Yeltsin and put in Putin.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   13:10:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Destro (#41)

"Kind of important when you call people Jews and they turn out not to be, don't you think?"

Probably less of a faux pas then your game of seizing on that as an opportunity to mock and deride her over it.

You like that tactic allot, but it loses it's punch when overused. Not to mention two can play at that game.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   13:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Destro (#45)

I was referring to the earlier coup in 1917, not that the tzar was any treat. But yes, Russia now has some hope with Putin.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   13:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Destro, Diana, Ferret Mike (#35)

There seems to be some question about Mark Ames' religion.

List of Converts to Judaism
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_jews.html

http://famous.heebz.com/authors1.html

http://www.ilyay.com/serv.php?file=exile

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   13:19:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

She's the Man - Funny diner scene!

Great stuff - thanks.

Lod  posted on  2006-11-12   13:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

Strange Little Girl

Excellent video with hauntingly sad lyrics.

Lod  posted on  2006-11-12   13:32:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: lodwick (#50) (Edited)

Thanks, I am always pleased to show people top notch artists who are so good they are too sensitive to do the callous and creativity muting process of commercial exploitation. Tori Amos is superb.

As for Amanda Bynes, 'She's the Man' will be looked back in a couple of decades as the start of an extremely talented woman's movie career. She hit all her marks in this film, tenderness, gut splitting comedy, and made the audience excited at her character triumphing over adversity.

I recommend renting or getting the video, but if someone reading this can't afford it, do a you tube search for 'She's the Man.' On the third or forth page of the search is the movie sectioned into 1,2,3,etc. The deleted scenes are there too.

Here is a great scene I love. It is one of the best cat fight scenes I have ever watched;

She's The Man Cat fight Scene

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   14:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Ferret Mike (#51)

She's The Man Cat fight Scene

Thanks - I'd seen that clip, but had no idea where it originated.

On a side note, it surely took google no time to load up YouTube with commercials...

Lod  posted on  2006-11-12   14:40:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Ferret Mike (#14)

http://www2.warnerbros.com/whatagirlwants/

This is the one I saw with Amanda Byrnes.

Most Profound Man in Iraq — An unidentified farmer in a fairly remote area who, after being asked by Reconnaissance Marines if he had seen any foreign fighters in the area replied "Yes, you."

robin  posted on  2006-11-12   14:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: robin, Ferret Mike, all (#53)

Who Killed the Electric Car Trailer -

Lod  posted on  2006-11-12   15:42:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: lodwick (#52) (Edited)

I thought at 50 years old plus I would be immune to finding a charismatic girl like that absolutely fascinating. How disgusting, I'm turning slowly and surely into a lecherous old man.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-12   18:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Destro, robin, bluegrass, ferret mike, Scrapper2, all (#34)

Blame Aryan superman Hitler's uni-testicled delusions of grandeur for him and the German people not the rightful vengeance visited upon the guilty.

So you believe in collective guilt? I don't.

And you think it's okey that 8 year old girls were gang-raped then impaled with iron rods till dead by those soviet troops because of some misguided perverted sense of "justice"? I don't.

Each individual is responsible for his/her actions.

Don't have much empathy for the innocent, do you.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   23:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Destro (#35)

No, Fraulein.

It was founded by Mark Ames - an American Episcopalian. Exiles co-editor is John Carrol Dolan, also not Jewish.

Nothing funnier than a German who can't tell a real Jew from an imagined one.

I guess the Rolling Stone article was wrong as you are always right, that is if we are talking about the Exile started in Russia some years ago by those 2 Jewish boys. Perhaps they don't own it anymore.

Do I qualify as a Fraulein being one quarter German??

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   23:26:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Destro (#38)

I pity the general lack of knowledge of Americans.

Like your "knowledge" of British actresses LOL!

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   23:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: robin, Destro (#39)

It's related to what happened to Diana's grandparents and to what happened to Russia.

He doesn't care, after all his type thinks that all Germans should be exterminated. He must be quite gleeful that the old people, women and children in East Prussia were raped and tortured before being murdered by Soviet troops.

Actually that sort of thing is considered a war crime, though too often these crimes go unpunished.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   23:32:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Destro, All (#35)

It was founded by Mark Ames - an American Episcopalian. Exiles co-editor is John Carrol Dolan, also not Jewish.

The eXile, founded in 1997, is a Moscow-based English-language biweekly free newspaper, aimed at the city's expatriate community, which combines outrageous content with investigative reporting. The eXile has "a clear editorial position. 'Yeah,' says the co-editor, Jake Rudnitsky: 'We shit on everybody equally.'" according to The Independent in October 2006.[1]

Rolling Stone magazine said in 1998 that then-coeditors "Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi take the raw material of this decadent new Moscow and convert it into 25,000 instantly snapped-up issues of The eXile, consisting of misogynist rants, dumb pranks, insulting club listings and photos of blood-soaked corpses

Diana  posted on  2006-11-12   23:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Diana (#59)

He doesn't care, after all his type thinks that all Germans should be exterminated. He must be quite gleeful that the old people, women and children in East Prussia were raped and tortured before being murdered by Soviet troops.

I prefer my Germans prostate with a Cossack boot on their neck.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-12   23:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Destro, robin, Scrapper2 (#35)

It was founded by Mark Ames - an American Episcopalian

For someone who is always right you sure are wrong a lot!

Mark Ames - born sometimes in the late 60's, jewish. Raised in California, moved to Russian in the early 90's. Present whereabouts uncertain but it looks like he goes back and forth between Cali and Moscow. He is the chief editor and founder of eXile. He's also listed on multiple websites of Jewish writers.

Matt Taibbi is a Jewish writer is known for bucking anti-Semitic stereotypes by doing things such as baking pies full of horse sperm and throwing them at other reporters.

*************

You have to admit they got that wacky irreverence you find so endearing!

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   0:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Destro, robin (#40)

Yea, her grandparent's country lost a war they initiated - tough. They had it coming like England has it coming. Get used to Russia owing England and using it as a summer vacation resort.

That's great-grandparents...

Wait, why does England have it coming now?

Why do they need to be punished?

Are they going to torture 8 year old girls and old people there too do you know?

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   0:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Destro (#41)

Kind of important when you call people Jews and they turn out not to be, don't you think?

What, do you hate Jews or something?

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   0:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Destro, Ferret Mike (#44)

What I find funny is the satire of exile.ru and how it makes Americans uncomfortable because they have been raised like vieal on censored news and views. Some freedom we Americans enjoy, eh? Not!

No, it has to do with conscience, some people have blank areas in their brains where that's suppose to be.

Too bad you were so wrong about the founders of the exile!

How can we trust you, especially when you are suppose to be always right?

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   0:28:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Destro (#61)

I prefer my Germans prostate with a Cossack boot on their neck.

Actually that's quite gentle for you!

I'd really like to know why England needs to be punished now though.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   0:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike, Diana, lodwick.Zipporah.christine (#16)

Tori Amos

She needs to try and get a comb through her hair!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-11-13   1:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Diana (#66) (Edited)

I'd really like to know why England needs to be punished now though

For attacking Orthodox Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo and allowing the partition of Cyprus and India and hosting jihadi cells who work for MI6 that she used to help the Chechen rebels.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-13   9:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Diana (#62)

Matt Taibbi is a Jewish writer is known for bucking anti-Semitic stereotypes by doing things such as baking pies full of horse sperm and throwing them at other reporters.

LOL! sounds like a blogger hates him.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-13   9:44:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: HOUNDDAWG (#67)

Her hair look quite nice to me. I hate helmet hair. I look at the over groomed look of actresses in the 30, 40s and 50s of the Twentieth Century and find it a turn off.

Sheldon McMurphy Johnson house Tree sit, Eugene, Oregon

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-11-13   10:18:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Ferret Mike (#70)

I hate helmet hair.

lol!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-11-13   11:53:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Diana, robin (#66) (Edited)

I'd really like to know why England needs to be punished now though.

From an old post of mine on FreeRepublic from 2 years ago - I want you to know I and those I represent are as serious as a heart attack in freeing ourselves from this NWO and if you can't help then get the hell out of the way. :

The 2 Serbian men were beaten as a warning by NATO thugs. They were openly calling for defiance of NATO. British troops for all their Hollywood earned reputation as disciplined gentlemanly soldiers have a well documented history of violence on those they rule. India, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, etc. - even violence to their own soldiers.

Rum, buggery and the lash - I would add - thuggery.

15 posted on 04/09/2004 6:57:34 PM PDT by Destro

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f- news/1114706/posts#15

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-13   16:17:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Ferret Mike (#70)

I hate helmet hair.

Me too!

That beehive style or whatever it was in the 60s and 70s that older women who liked Tom Jones used to wear was so ugly.

When I was in 7th grade a friend's mother drove us to school, and I'd sit in the back seat in back of the mother. Her hair was all ratted and full of hair spray, and it smelled bad, I don't think she ever washed it. That was a very ugly period for women's hairstyles.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   18:11:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Destro (#72)

The 2 Serbian men were beaten as a warning by NATO thugs. They were openly calling for defiance of NATO. British troops for all their Hollywood earned reputation as disciplined gentlemanly soldiers have a well documented history of violence on those they rule. India, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, etc. - even violence to their own soldiers.

Thanks for the info and link Destro, I really was curious what that was all about.

Diana  posted on  2006-11-13   18:14:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Diana (#74)

Like I keep saying - I have a posting history that goes back several years.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-11-13   20:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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