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Title: UCLA orders outside probe of Taser arrest - The move comes hours after a protest march by more than 200 students.
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The Los Angeles Times
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l ... 8.story?coll=la-home-headlines
Published: Nov 18, 2006
Author: Richard Winton, Rong-Gong Lin II and Cha
Post Date: 2006-11-18 19:42:06 by robin
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Hundreds of UCLA students march down Westwood Blvd. towards the University of California Police Department to protest the excessive force used against UCLA student Mostafa Tabatabainejad. (Genaro Molina / LAT) Nov 17, 2006
(Click for more photos)UCLA orders outside probe of Taser arrest
Times Staff Writers
November 18, 2006
Hoping to calm the furor created when UCLA police used a Taser to subdue a student studying in Powell Library, the university's acting chancellor announced Friday that a veteran Los Angeles law enforcement watchdog would head up an independent investigation of the incident.
Norman Abrams said he ordered the probe after the university received numerous calls and e-mails from parents and alumni raising concerns about the officers' actions during the videotaped Tuesday night arrest, which has been widely seen on TV news and the YouTube website.
"I want to assure them that the UCLA campus is a safe environment. Student safety and treatment are of paramount concern at UCLA," Abrams said. "We plan to move ahead promptly with a complete and unbiased review."
Abrams appointed Merrick Bobb, who was a staff attorney for the Christopher Commission and currently works as the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors' watchdog over the Sheriff's Department, to handle the probe. Abrams said Bobb has a proven track record looking into allegations of police misconduct, including the Rodney King beating and more recently the riots at the L.A. County jail system.
The move came hours after more than 200 students marched to the UCLA police station calling for an independent investigation into the Taser incident as well as the suspension of the officers involved.
Wearing signs reading, "I am a student, don't Taser me" and chanting, "Tasers out of UC," the protesters said it was an inherent conflict of interest for university police to handle the investigation of their own officers.
"What was done was unnecessary," said Rahmatullah Akbar, a senior majoring in psychology. "We as students don't deserve to be Tasered."
Tuesday's incident occurred about 11 p.m. in a library filled with students studying for midterm examinations.
According to the university, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, a 23-year-old senior, was asked for his ID as part of a routine nightly procedure to make sure that everyone using the library after 11 p.m. is a student or otherwise authorized to be there. Campus officials have said the long-standing policy was adopted to ensure students' safety.
Authorities said Tabatabainejad refused repeated requests by community service officers and regular campus police to provide identification or to leave.
UCLA Police Chief Karl Ross said the officers decided to use the Taser to incapacitate Tabatabainejad after he went limp while they were escorting him out and urged other library patrons to join his resistance.
Mavrick Goodrich, a chemical engineering major who observed the incident, said Tabatabainejad shouted, "Am I the only martyr?"
Some witnesses disputed the officers' account, saying that when campus police arrived, Tabatabainejad had begun to walk toward the door.
Tabatabainejad's attorney, Stephen Yagman, said his client refused to show his ID because he thought he was being singled out because of his Middle Eastern appearance. Tabatabainejad is of Iranian descent but is a U.S. citizen by birth and a resident of Los Angeles.
The student was shocked five times with the Taser, Yagman said.
Another student used a cellphone camera to record portions of the incident, in which Tabatabainejad can be heard screaming in pain when the Taser shocks are administered.
One of the issues Bobb's investigation will examine is whether the officers complied with the university police rules for using Tasers.
Several local police agencies — including the LAPD and Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department — allow officers to use Tasers only if a suspect poses a physical threat or is acting combatively.
The sheriff's policies expressly say deputies can't use Tasers simply to move someone.
"We look for assaultive conduct," said Bill McSweeney, chief of the sheriff's leadership and training division "We generally don't use the Taser on passive resisters except when an individual indicates explosive action to follow, such as a verbal threat."
But UCLA police are allowed to use Tasers on passive resisters as "a pain compliance technique," Assistant Chief Jeff Young said in an interview Friday.
Under UCLA policy, Young said, officers can use the weapons after considering the potential injury to police and to the individual as well as the level of resistance and the need for prompt resolution.
Young described Tabatabainejad as a "passive resister" who refused to cooperate with officers. He acknowledged that the student didn't actively resist the officers.
"He was 200 pounds and went limp and was very hard to manage. They were trying to get him on his feet," Young said.
The officers used the device in stun mode — which affects only the part of the body being touched — rather than the dart mode, in which tiny electrodes are fired into a person and pass a current through them, disabling the person entirely.
Young said police have used the Tasers "on several occasions" before but said he didn't know how many times.
The officers involved in Tuesday's incident were off duty Friday but had not been placed on administrative leave.
On Friday, many students remained outraged over Tabatabainejad's treatment.
"Once you have him subdued, you don't have to keep Tasing him," said Rohit Mahajan, a psychobiology major who watched the video. "You could see him crying. He's not a threat. He's maybe acting like a smartass, but he doesn't" deserve that.
The protest march was organized by leaders of the campus Muslim and Iranian American student groups. They support Tabatabainejad, though some demonstrators said they didn't think the officers' actions were motivated by his ethnicity
The American Civil Liberties Union also said that it was examining the incident.
"It is an appalling and traumatically excessive use of force on someone passive-resisting," said ACLU attorney Peter Bibring. "The officers seem so confident in what they are doing. They need to change their policies and training."
UCLA officials urged students and others to withhold judgment actions until the investigations are completed.
"Not all the events of Tuesday evening can be heard or viewed on YouTube," Ross said at a news conference with Abrams.
The acting chancellor expressed confidence in and respect for the UCLA police, and noted that Ross' department would continue with its own internal investigation.
"But there are times when it is helpful to turn to an outside review as well," Abrams said.
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"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." 200 is a sorry number, given the size of the number of enrolled students. But they're doing better than they are here in Ohio. I imagine that right now everyone on the OSU campus is spending their time turning over cars and setting shit on fire because....OSU beat Michigan today. Bread and Circuses for the fucking idiot sports fans. They actually delayed the 15th district re-count (that will include the provisional ballots) until after today specifically because of this bullshit sporting event. This is #4 GOPher Deborah Pryce's house seat.
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
Here is the beginnings of the ACLU suit in federal court.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
To be honest, scanning the photos, it looks well over the 200+ reported.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." Sad commentary on what we've become. BTW - who won at NeckCar?
And he is a senior at UCLA.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." I'm sure it was likely closer to 1,000. You know how the MSM and other authorities have a tendency to underestimate these things.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Totally. BTW - who won at NeckCar? What's that?
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
Agree - seems more like two thousand, than two hundred.
NeckCar = NASCAR
Beats me. I shun all sporting events much like I do "reality TV." You couldn't pay me to care. Well, maybe you could pay me to care, but it would have to be a large sum that the IRS and my ex-wife would never know about.
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
Yes it is a very low amount for a school of that size. I would imagine most students are too busy studying for their mid-term exams to participate in a rally. If this guy had the card on him but just refused to show it then he was definitely looking for trouble. Maybe he knew he was about to flunk an exam and wanted a way to get more time to study for it.
God is always good! Agree - it would have to be a HUGE, undisclosed, amount of jack.
they do us so proud, don't they?
Tabatabainejad's attorney, Stephen Yagman, said his client refused to show his ID because he thought he was being singled out because of his Middle Eastern appearance. Tabatabainejad is of Iranian descent but is a U.S. citizen by birth and a resident of Los Angeles. The student was shocked five times with the Taser, Yagman said. "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." I feel the sarcasm...like on the Palmolive commercials..."Madge, you're soaking in it!" I could at least understand if the idiots in the stands were making money off of the bullshit, but they are just there to soak up the bread and circuses. I get the whole "distraction from daily life" thing, but there are people here who plan their lives around this bullshit. I have neighbors who I'm genuinely fond of who for several months a year stop being anything but "buckeyes." On the sacred "game day" the American flags go down and the OSU flags go up. The guy next door to me has a giant inflatable "Brutus the Buckeye" next to his front door. You have no idea how much restraint I have to exercise to keep from sabotaging it.
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
yeah, i think i do...i feel it when i see W04 stickers on SUVs.
I count four times on the video so the first one must have been before the start of the video recording. But according to witnesses he was trying to get other people to join him in his personal protest by yelling "am I the only martyr?" before the police tased him. He clearly was resisting their efforts to escort him out of the building. Since it appears he had the card on him but just refused to show it, despite the fact everyone else showed theirs, just shows that he was planning this little protest all along. The cops shouldn't have tased him, but as the laws for the UCLA PD are written, they had the legal right to do so.
God is always good! GO UCLA!!!! And thank-you youtube :)
I shout "stupid ass" everytime I see one.
All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.
Good for you. I only think it.
just where do you get your "facts"?
All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.
That's why I'm glad I didn't have the "007" package installed on my car. It would be too tempting to use the machine guns and rocket launchers.
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
lol !
Articles already posted on this forum have said the same thing.
God is always good! Your source is a poster from Liberty Post?
All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.
Reference the article(s).
All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.
There's always the imagination.
All men die. Not all men truly live. Live for something, rather than die for nothing.
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#2. To: robin (#0)
#3. To: robin (#0)
"It is an appalling and traumatically excessive use of force on someone passive-resisting," said ACLU attorney Peter Bibring. "The officers seem so confident in what they are doing. They need to change their policies and training."
#4. To: BTP Holdings (#3)
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#5. To: orangedog (#2)
They actually delayed the 15th district re-count (that will include the provisional ballots) until after today specifically because of this bullshit sporting event. This is #4 GOPher Deborah Pryce's house seat.
#6. To: All (#4)
According to the university, Mostafa Tabatabainejad, a 23-year-old senior
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#7. To: robin (#4)
scanning the photos, it looks well over the 200+ reported.
#8. To: lodwick (#5)
Sad commentary on what we've become.
#9. To: robin (#4)
To be honest, scanning the photos, it looks well over the 200+ reported.
#10. To: orangedog (#8)
#11. To: lodwick (#10)
#12. To: orangedog (#2)
200 is a sorry number, given the size of the number of enrolled students.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#13. To: orangedog (#11)
Well, maybe you could pay me to care, but it would have to be a large sum that the IRS and my ex-wife would never know about.
#14. To: orangedog (#2)
I imagine that right now everyone on the OSU campus is spending their time turning over cars and setting shit on fire because....OSU beat Michigan today.
#15. To: RickyJ (#12)
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#16. To: christine (#14)
they do us so proud, don't they?
#17. To: orangedog (#16)
You have no idea how much restraint I have to exercise to keep from sabotaging it.
#18. To: robin (#15)
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The student was shocked five times with the Taser, Yagman said.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#19. To: robin, Taser toating piggies (#1)
#20. To: christine (#17)
i feel it when i see W04 stickers
#21. To: angle (#20)
I shout "stupid ass" everytime I see one.
#22. To: RickyJ (#18)
despite the fact everyone else showed theirs
#23. To: christine (#17)
yeah, i think i do...i feel it when i see W04 stickers on SUVs.
#24. To: orangedog (#23)
#25. To: angle (#22)
2006 UCLA Graduate
It is an absolute rule that all people in Powell library past 11pm must present ID.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#26. To: RickyJ (#25)
#27. To: RickyJ (#25)
Articles already posted on this forum have said the same thing.
#28. To: orangedog (#23)
the machine guns and rocket launchers.
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