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Title: Cold Fusion HowTo And Other Do-It-Yourselfers
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://jlnlabs.imars.com/
Published: Nov 20, 2006
Author: Various
Post Date: 2006-11-21 00:02:15 by Neil McIver
Keywords: None
Views: 185
Comments: 10

http://jlnlabs.imars.com/

Interesting site with links to home brew information on various energy technologies, including "lifters" which I've not seen before. But there are photo's and videos of this device seemingly defying gravity, and it appears many have built them.

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#1. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Unfortunately, his measurement methods leave lots to be desired; in other words, it's "junk."

I'm truley sorry to say that, but it is the case.

The only way to prove overunity is via calorimetry. He doesn't practice this.

Calculating power from waveforms isn't proof.

...with conviction there is no sacrifice

rack42  posted on  2006-11-21   0:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rack42 (#1)

Are you referring to the cold fusion section?

The photos look interesting but I'm no expert in CF beyond declaring the photo's cool looking.

With all these alternative tech things that searches have turned up, I'm sure that a certain percentage of them are either scam attempts to exploit the hype or just plain unqualified types. But I certainly wouldn't declare the lot of them over a few. I'm particularly interested in the work of John Hutchingson of Vancouver BC who seems to be another Tesla.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-11-21   0:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Neil McIver (#0)

including "lifters" which I've not seen before.

Yeah, lifters are cool; people make them in their basements. Do a google search and you can find all kinds of video and plans.

The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-11-21   10:37:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Indrid Cold (#3)

Yeah, solid state propulsion. It looks like something I could get into.

Plenty of videos around. http://www.rense.com/general25/antigrav.htm

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-11-21   12:29:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Neil McIver (#2)

Are you referring to the cold fusion section?

Yes.

Naudlin isn't trying to scam anyone; he seems not to understand that proof is not shown in oscilliscope waveforms but must be done using calorimetry, ie, heating water or some other liquid. Oscilliscopes can be innocently "fooled."

Why he is so bullheaded as to not do calorimetry, after numerous emails by the "community (those interested in such experiments)" is beyond me.

A French thing? ;)

...with conviction there is no sacrifice

rack42  posted on  2006-11-21   22:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Neil McIver (#2)

I'm particularly interested in the work of John Hutchingson of Vancouver BC who seems to be another Tesla.

His work is rather intriguing, but he doesn't keep notes of his experiments.

So, how can anyone even attempt to replicate his experiments? One can't. This is stupid beyond words.

As far as I know, he still doesn't keep notes.

He was "investigated" for firearms violations a few years back; I don't know what that was about.

Here is an address to a page reguarding the "Hutchison Effect." Until he can at the least publish his notes, I'm not taking him seriously.

...with conviction there is no sacrifice

rack42  posted on  2006-11-21   23:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rack42 (#6)

Yes, his correct last name is "Hutchison", not "Hutchingson"

No notes? Sounds like me in High School. Somehow the lack of notes speaks to his mad-scientist character. Odd ball inventors like these always have something to set them apart from the normal crowd.

It seems much of Tesla's work was lost. If Hutchison is for real, it would be a very sad shame if the same happened.

His listing in wikepedia contains plenty of doubt, but wiki notates the writeup as suspect.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-11-22   2:59:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

Nice link. Here's some more off of that one:

http://www.hutchisoneffectonline.com/interviews.htm

http://www.nottaughtinschools.com/John-Hutchison/index.html

http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Thinktank/8863/main.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hutchison (unflattering)

http://www.hutchisoneffect.ca/

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-11-22   4:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Neil McIver (#7)

It seems much of Tesla's work was lost.

The US gov't seized it upon his death and shipped it to Yugoslavia in 1952.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_001.htm

The national nightmare has ended... Now begins two years of watching the Congress play "Kick the Gimp".

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-11-22   10:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Indrid Cold (#3)

Looks like "lifters" are proven to not be anti-grav at all, but are actually "ion thrusters" which cause a movement of air. They don't work in a vacume, and are completely explained with current physics.

http://www.blazelabs.com/l-vacuum.asp

But as a solid state ion thruster, they are still pretty cool.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-11-23   4:10:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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