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Title: The Sex Preacher
Source: CBS 4
URL Source: http://cbs4.com/local/local_story_324170725.html
Published: Nov 21, 2006
Author: Joy Purdy
Post Date: 2006-11-21 23:02:54 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 321
Comments: 17

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(CBS4) MIAMI For 15 years, Joe Beam preached the word of God. Now in God's house, he preaches about good, hot Christian sex.

"I get questions about oral sex, pornography, foreplay, everything you can imagine. People ask and I blatantly answer them. Some Christian people are amazed that my answers are what they are because its not what they've been taught all their lives," Beam told CBS4's Joy Purdy.

Beam believes he’s taking Christian sex education to the next level in terms of right, wrong and what the Bible says is allowable or not.

Statistics show that 20% of married couples have sex just 10 times a year or less, and Beam believes that is an indication there is a lot of sexual misery between couples.

The minister left his home church to fill churches nationwide with curious couples, eager to hear what Beam interprets the bible to say about sex, love and marriage.

"Now I want you to see this is in the Bible; I am not making this up,” Beam said in one of his presentations. “If a person is not sexually satisfied they become susceptible to outside temptation."

There are no boundaries for those who attend Beam's seminars. The audience can even secretly write questions for Beam and he in turn, answers them all.

Minister Beam covers many taboo issues in his seminars that many Christians have become accustomed to being ashamed of.

For example, said Beam at one seminar, the Bible actually says nothing about the use of vibrators and in fact, he encouraged the audience to play games with each other, with or without mechanical aids. "There's nothing in the bible that says anything about masturbation," he said.

Even though it may seem as though there are no taboo subjects left, Beam says there are 10 "no-no's."

Incest is prohibited by the Bible, Beam believes, as is homosexuality. Rape, Adultery, and sex with someone other than your mate should not be allowed.

While enjoying sex is permitted, lust is not, as is the act of selling sex for money. The minister believes the Bible prohibits sex between humans and animals, known as bestiality, or sex when a woman is having her menstrual period.

Finally, Beam believes the Bible prohibits the harming of the body for sex.

For many Christians these topics are forbidden but Beam believes that if Christians don't discuss them in church, where else will they turn to get the answers and guidance they need?

"They're not going to listen to Dr. Ruth so all of a sudden along comes a man whose been a minister, who actually has a degree in Bible, and I'm saying, ‘well, yes you really can do this’, and actually showing them book chapter and verse its right here you can do this," said Beam.

Lee Maurer took part in one of Beam’s seminars, and told CBS4, "it's a little intense and a little graphic, but if you can't talk about it in a Christian context, in a biblical context, than the other (seminars) that are available aren't that great for your spiritual growth."

Bianca and Paul Harding, a couple which attended one of Beam's seminars, said they had a lot to learn. "My parents never talked to me about sex, my friends they got it all wrong. I think there might be some vestiges of guilt in some things we do now that has been washed away."

"It's a relief, it really is,” said seminar attendee Richard Grow. “We talk about it in the confines of our home but to hear it in a church with other people, one laughing about it and going yeah, I've had that question, husbands going, and yeah it's refreshing."

Beam prides himself on being open and honest.

"We don't know if a good sex life makes good marriage or good marriage makes good sex life. We can't prove which way it works but we know they go hand in hand. A good marriage and good sex life go hand in hand," he said.


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#1. To: All (#0)

Seems this story is on MSNBC as well....

Steamy sex for Christians
Sept. 16: http://MSNBC.com Sexploration columnist Brian Alexander and preacher Joe Beam talk to NBC's Lester Holt about lovemaking lessons from the Bible.

Today show

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-21   23:05:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

gad..

You aren't a prude, are you Zippy?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-11-21   23:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Fred Mertz (#2)

You aren't a prude, are you Zippy?

.. I'd say that's a.. no.. :P

This is just way odd.. guess ya gotta have a gimmick. :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-21   23:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

Incest is prohibited by the Bible

What about in the OT the two daughters in a sleepy town with no visitors who finially said, "Hey it's dad or nothing"?

I remember DW reading the bible to the seven yo kids on this, and I said "Hon ya might read a paragraph ahead".

She went to the Noah's ark lesson.

tom007  posted on  2006-11-22   1:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#3)

Most of these prohibitions are reflected in the earlier Hermes expostations from Egypt. This revealed wisdom said it was an offense to human dignity and the creator for several of the ten items noted above. This was prolly formed around 3000 BC.

Mentioned specifically was the public act of sex, which I suppose is pornography.

Yet in central Europe, our presumed ancestors, multiple trustworthy sources indicate this was an accepted part of that society (Xenophon, Herodoutus,) and considered normal.

May be living in Albania 200BC in a town of 3000, the entertainment options were limited??

Xenophon (If I may be permitted to digress) told specifically of a young boy, covered in elaborate tatoos, that presented himself for sex with X in the town square. It seemed to have some kind of religious significance, as the boy was a special person. Hard really to say, as the writings are not too clear. Xenophon thought it was worth mentioning.

He declined.

See the great work "Anabasis" which is "the exiting" Trapped in Iraq, Xenophon and his Greek mercineries were defeated by Darius, and on the run. They had to forge a way through the unknown hostile lands of central Europe, filled with strange poeples, mainly our ansestors, I suppose.

tom007  posted on  2006-11-22   1:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tom007 (#4)

What about in the OT the two daughters in a sleepy town with no visitors who finially said, "Hey it's dad or nothing"?

I remember DW reading the bible to the seven yo kids on this, and I said "Hon ya might read a paragraph ahead".

She went to the Noah's ark lesson.

LOL!! yeah that would be tad difficult to explain to young innocent minds :P

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-22   19:38:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#0)

Some Christian people are amazed that my answers are what they are because its not what they've been taught all their lives," Beam told CBS4's Joy Purdy.

Specifically; what Baptist women were taught by their uptight, frigid mothers.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-11-22   19:40:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: who knows what evil (#7)

Specifically; what Baptist women were taught by their uptight, frigid mothers.

Well thankfully I wasnt raised Baptist :P

I often wondered just where do these people think the idea of sex came from?? SATAN!!?? Gad..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-22   19:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#0)

A good marriage and good sex life go hand in hand," he said.

Damn straight...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-11-22   19:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: gobble, gobble (#0)

Porn Flakes

Kellogg, Graham and the Crusade for Moral Fiber

"All kinds of stimulating and heating substances; high-seasoned food; rich dishes; the free use of flesh; and even the excess of aliment; all, more or less -- and some to a very great degree -- increase the concupiscent excitability and sensibility of the genital organs..." -- Sylvester Graham


"A remedy [for masturbation] which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision...The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind...In females, the author has found the application of pure carbolic acid to the clitoris an excellent means of allaying the abnormal excitement. " -- Dr. John Harvey Kellogg

by Carrie McLaren

As a rule, there's often more to folk wisdom than bad science, and so it is with myths about masturbation and other aspects of sexuality. In America, a peculiar flowering of these myths took place in the 19th century. Though the predictable culprits -- Victorian prudery, evangelical Christianity, entrepreneuriallism -- are part of the picture, what's less known is the the myths' century-old relationship with whole-grain foodstuffs. Thanks to certain influential health advocates, sex and diet were inexorably linked, and, for both, healthy meant bland.

The souvenirs of these efforts with us today are only ironic footnotes on the graves of two crusaders: Sylvester Graham, immortalized not for his sexual and nutritional reform but for the sugared brown crackers used in pie crust. And John Harvey Kellogg, a flaked-food believer eclipsed by his brother's breakfast cereal dynasty.

A free thinker, Sylvester Graham (1794-1851) lashed out against white bread, feather beds, pork, tobacco, salt, condiments, tight corsets, nocturnal emissions, heavy clothing, and hot mince pie. His specialties, though, were masturbation and poor eating habits. Graham was by no means the first to decry the debilitating effects of masturbation; Judeo-Christian tradition has long considered it an evil, a barrier to the natural function of sexuality -- reproduction. But Graham's approach was different, focussing on health rather than morality.

Sylvester Graham: grain lover

Before 1700, medical references to the harmful effects of masturbation were scarce. In the eighteenth century, two works--Ononia: Or the Heinous Sin of Self-Pollution, and all its Frightful Consequences... (by an anonymous author) and Samual Tissot's Treatise on the Diseases Produced by Onanism--introduced concepts that Graham adopted and help popularize (for example, Tissot's idea that loss of semen under any condition made one sick). Graham's Lecture to Young Men (1834) was the first of its kind and launched a whole genre of medical tracts on masturbation, known then as "self abuse" or "self pollution."

Graham knew his audience. With his solid grasp of rhetorical devices, he made claims no one could disprove--or rather, would disprove. Though people often disagreed on the particular causes of masturbation, most believed the symptoms were easy to recognize--victims were usually shy, suspicious, languid, unconcerned with hygiene, jaundiced. Graham used this to his advantage; in fact, he found most any health problem could be tied to masturbation. Only first-hand experience (yuk yuk) could disprove his claims and Graham came prepared to beat down any challengers with flamboyant, over-the-top gore. According to Graham, a masturbator grows up "with a body full of disease, and with a mind in ruins, the loathsome habit still tyrannizing over him, with the inexorable imperiousness of a fiend of darkness."

The cause of acne in incriminating teens is revealed, and the result: "ulcerous sores, in some cases, break out upon the head, breast, back and thighs; and these sometimes enlarge into permanent fistulas, of a cancerous character, and continue, perhaps for years, to discharge great quantities of foetid, loathsome pus; and not unfrequently terminate in death."

After 1834, Graham stopped lecturing about sexuality and started focussing his attention on nutrition. The frank talk had become too heated, too divisive. Graham considered his move into dietary reform a natural, evolutionary step: the proper diet moderated sexual desire.

From his early days, Graham believed both kinds of hunger -- sexual and nutritional -- threatened good health. Here, he was influenced by homeopath William Metcalfe. Metcalfe, an English clergyman, was the first public advocate of vegetarianism in American and a strong believer in the future of asparagus seed as a coffee substitute. But while Metcalfe argued vegetarianism on moral grounds, Graham was more concerned with the carnal passions meat-eating provoked. Reflecting the prevailing view of his day, Graham considered the stomach the major organ of the body, so anything that inflamed it was compared to lust. The medical profession was evil, according to Graham, and, besides, there was no need for it since: "Disease is never the legitimate result of the normal operation of any of our organs." All irritations or excitements such as hunger or sexual desire exhausted the body and increased the chance of disease and death. Fortunately, this made the cure for virtually ever human sickness simple--sexual moderation (no more than 12 times a year for married couples), exercise (to help prevent nocturnal emissions) and the proper diet (to facilitate free peristaltic action of the bowels, among other benefits).

By 1840, Graham's public career was finished; but not without having influenced a number of bran-lovin' upstarts. One of these was James Caleb Jackson (1814-1895), a diet expert who combined Graham's health reform plan with hydropathy. Hydropathic therapy, also known as the water- cure, involved applying extremely cold water--showers, tubs, soaks, and wet- packs--to different parts of the body. Jackson's real brainstorm, however, was creating a stone-like wafer out of graham flour and water. He called his treat Granula, and would later go down in history as having made the first cold breakfast cereal.

John Harvey Kellogg

Though unpleasant to the taste, Granula found a ready-made market at Jackson's sanitarium in Dansville, NY, where it was digested by residents. It was here that Sister Ellen White of the Seventh Day Adventists visited on the advice of an angel. And it was here that she received a message from above instructing her to duplicate the Dansville setup and open a two- meal-a-day facility for Adventists. Thus was born the Western Health Reform Institute in Battle Creek, Michigan.

At the time, Battle Creek was the world headquarters for Seventh Day Adventists, a fundamentalist "society of the faithful." Convinced vegetarians, the Adventists followed Genesis literally where it says, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed...to you it shall be meat." Known later as the Kellogg Sanitarium or just The San, the Institute was to play a key roll in revolutionizing the American breakfast, making Battle Creek the international Cereal City.

Sister White was a health reform pro when she opened the Sanitarium. Inspired by Graham and Jackson, she had published a book on masturbation in 1864, called An Appeal to Mothers: The Great Cause of the Physical, Mental and Moral Ruin of Many of the Children of Our Time. But a leader she was not, and the Institute she founded with Adventist money floundered for ten years until a quirky young doctor, John Harvey Kellogg, took over daily operations. Kellogg, another Graham disciple, was highly regarded in Adventists circles for his hard-hitting medical journalism. Unlike Graham, he openly embraced medical science and was constantly experimenting with whole-grain foods.

After two years on the job, he came up with the first Battle Creek health treat--a mixture of oatmeal and corn meal, baked into biscuits, then ground to bits. He called his discovery Granula, a peculiar decision considering the only other cereal then was called Granula. Once they finished suing, Kellogg re-named his product Granola.

Granola was only one of several delicacies the doctor designed for patients at The San. Other house specialties included Caramel Cereal Coffee, Bulgarian yogurt (Kellogg was big on yogurt), and meat substitutes Protose (like beefsteak) and Nuttose (like veal). At one point, Kellogg concentrated solely on nuts. He wrote a paper, "Nuts May Save the Race," and claimed to have invented peanut butter, along with several other nut spreads and Malted Nuts.

Though low on flavor, the ambitious menu helped turn the hospital around financially. Under Kellogg's guidance, most of the patients admitted to The San just needed a diet. They were overweight or overworked. They suffered from Americanitis, treatable with rest, room service and wheelchair socials. The cure rate became remarkably high since no one seriously ill was admitted.

No chronic masturbators were admitted either. Kellogg echoed Graham's doom-and-gloom views on the matter and even added to them. On the night of his honeymoon (more on this in a moment), he spent his time writing Plain Facts for Old and Young, a warning on the evils of sex. Of the 644 pages, 97 address "Secret Vice (Solitary Vice or Self-Abuse)," its symptoms and results. Included are 39 signs indicating someone is jacking off; a list comprehensive enough to indict everyone vaguely human: #7. Sleeplessnes, #11. Love of solitude, #12. Bashfulness and #13. Unnatural boldness, #14. Confusion of ideas, #24. Capricious appetite, #28. Use of tobacco, #30. Acne.

Such was Dr. Kellogg's power play: in rejecting known masturbators from the hospital, he avoided acknowledging there was no real cure. Yet his theories gave him an outlet from poor slobs the hospital diet couldn't help. Dr. Kellogg could diagnose them as masturbators and thus pass responsibility for the problem onto the patient. If the illness persisted, that was proof of secret vice, or that the problem was long-term or irreversible. Dr. Kellogg was never wrong. In fact, he made an issue of abstaining from all sexual relations himself, supposedly to prove that sex was not necessary to health. Though he married Ella Eaton, their marriage was never consummated and they lived in separate apartments.

It's quite likely, though, that the doctor was in some way dysfunctional (one book suggests he had mumps). After breakfast every morning, he had an orderly give him an enema. This may mean he had klismaphilia, an anomaly of sexual functioning traceable to childhood in which an enema substitutes for regular sexual intercourse. For the klismaphile, putting the penis in the vagina is experienced as hard, dangerous, and repulsive work.

Whatever the reason for Dr. Kellogg's various beliefs, they had a lasting effect. The San became more and more famous while Dr. Kellogg became something of a demagogue. Gradually, his medical training and unwavering belief in the power of wholegrain foods started to win out over his fundamentalist faith.

A major step in this direction took place when a patient showed him little wheat mattresses a friend had sent her for digestive trouble. The wheat cakes were being peddled by a man in Denver, Henry Perky, who called his creation "Shredded Wheat." Dr. Kellogg experimented with the wheaty filaments and concluded that they were "like eating a whisk broom." Still, his curiosity was raised.

Shredded wheat, it should be pointed out, was not yet considered a breakfast food. Originally the biscuits were intended as a main course, a "natural food" in the Grahamite tradition. There was cheese-and-shredded wheat toast, creamed peas in "biscuit baskets," fried mushrooms on split biscuits, banana croquettes with shredded wheat and more. Perky even founded a domestic science institute, Oread Institute, to train demonstrators to educate housewives in how to use the product.

But in the wheat biscuits the doctor saw potential for a ready-to-eat breakfast food and went about creating his own. After much trial-and- error, he came up with Granose, the first flaked-wheat cereal. Shortly thereafter, he set up commercial production in a barn behind the Sanitarium and went to work securing patents to protect himself from copycats. The efforts, however, were to no avail. (Dr. Kellogg should've figured this out since 43 patents weren't enough to keep him from ripping off Shredded Wheat.) The whole town of Battle Creek exploded with flake fever; cereal and "health food" manufacturers appeared over night and Battle Creek became Cereal Central.

Leading the parade was a man who practically cut his teeth at the the Sanitarium, C.W. Post. An overworked inventor, Post came to Battle Creek to cure his upset stomach while his wife sold suspenders door-to-door. Post stayed at the Sanitarium for nine months and absorbed all the diet theories, health remedies and menu options Kellogg had to offer. He did not get well--in fact, he claimed the staff had given him up to die. But he didn't leave uninspired. Toward the end of the 19th century, Battle Creek--always on the cutting edge of spiritualism--had become home to various psychics. Post, having witnessed a sort of mental healing at the San, sought these people out and developed an appetite for Christian Science, popular occult books and parapsychology...not unlike a new age zealot of today. After a few trials, Post found himself a Battle Creek mental healer with a miraculous two-day cure for his appendix. And with that, he was, as he was known to say, on "the road to Wellville."

Though outside the sanitarium, Post still sensed unexplored commercial possibilities in the Sanitarium health foods. He proposed to Dr. Kellogg that they work together to promote Minute Brew, a health coffee similar to the one served at the hospital. The Doctor flatly refused. Post then went to the east limits of Battle Creek and, in May 1992, set up his own medical boardinghouse, La Vita Inn. The plan was to provide patients not only with a special diet, but spiritual healing.

Post was not a doctor, he "simply treated patients by mental therapeutics." Nevertheless, his cures -- which basically boiled down to convincing oneself, "I am well!" -- became the talk of the town. Back pains, toothaches, rheumatic joints -- all could be undone in less than five minutes with quick mental negation (sort of a precursor to The Power of Positive Thinking). Meanwhile, Post did some channeling on the side; he once approached Dr. Kellogg and offered to pray for his patients for $50 a week. (The doctor declined, providing another motive for Post to promote La Vita as a refuge for former Sanitarium patients.)

In 1895, Post rolled out the first commercial batch of Postum, his cereal-based coffee substitute, and within a few years, became a multi-millionaire. Having figured out early on that religious imagery upped product value, he nicknamed Postum "Monk's Brew" and dubbed his first cereal Elijah's Manna (later renamed Post Toasties since it was against the law in Britain to register Biblical names).

Post wrote all the advertisements, product descriptions and company literature himself. In so doing, he created a totally new kind of copy -- the first to advertise food as a medicine for regular (sorry) consumers. The original campaign for Postum claimed "It Makes Red Blood." After that, Post went hogwild and invented a disease, "coffee neuralgia," to help sell Postum. "Lost Eyesight through Coffee Drinking," read the ad, followed by a tear-jerking case reported from Somewhere, Illinois. The moral: quit coffee, drink Postum.

Post's next brainstorm was a batch of wheaty, rock-like morsels called Grape Nuts. This time he advertised the cereal food as an alternative to surgery for an inflamed appendix. Grape Nuts, a "brain food" could also cure consumption, malaria and loose teeth.

Every box of Grape Nuts came with a copy of Post's classic text, The Road To Wellville. Basically, it urged conscious consumers to "Eat Grape Nuts, drink Postum, and think positive thoughts." What's interesting is how this evolved out of La Vita's original recipe -- simply to think positive thoughts. Of course, positive thoughts alone don't turn much profit, so converting Wellness into a tangible made a lot of sense. Plus it allowed Post to quietly shut down La Vita (which was becoming a hassle) and dedicate himself fulltime to the organic revolution.

It didn't take long for other entrepreneurs to catch onto Post's advertising techniques and once they did a full-scale health food craze was underway. Ralston Health Food, for example, claimed its tiny grains were "Full of vegetable Phosphorous that makes children grow like magic and develop strong mentally," giving the brain "all the phosphorus it can use in heavy thinking." The American Cereal Company (predecessor of Quaker Oats) said its Apetiza made red blood, which as Carson points out, distinguishes it from all other foods, except Grape Nuts, which also made red blood. And said so first.

Where was Dr. Kellogg during all this? Oddly enough, the doctor started losing money just as cereal was evolving into a breakfast food staple. The Sanitarium had a few problems -- it burned down, lost its money, and the Adventists excommunicated Dr. Kellogg (and eventually severed ties with the Sanitarium). Plus the company Dr. Kellogg had started, Sanitas Food Company, was losing money; the doctor was much more interested in playing with food than selling it. His brother, however, was an entirely different animal.

William K. Kellogg had worked for his brother since the Sanitarium opened. An organizer with sharp business sense, W.K. wasn't interested in crusading against masturbation or bad eating habits -- he wanted to get paid. In the Doctor's inventions, he saw a potential fortune. The problem was getting his brother to agree to anything; as he got older, Dr. Kellogg only seemed to grow more and more manic, refusing to compromise his ideals and commercialize his creations.

The break-through came when W.K. convinced his brother that they should form a new company to manufacture corn flakes. The Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company was incorporated in 1906 and placed under W.K.'s management. Dr. Kellogg was the majority stockholder, but he distributed part of this stock among the Sanitarium doctors. Later, while Dr. Kellogg was away in Europe visiting Pavlov, W.K. went around and bought up the stock until he personally owned a majority. The new president, W.K., promptly put his signature on the box and renamed the company that was ultimately to become Kellogg Co.

Here our story pretty much ends. When W.K.'s signature went on the corn flakes, the picture of the San came off and from that day forth, corn flakes were known for their great taste rather than their health benefits. Sugar and other additives became part of the recipe and advertising spared none -- pretty girls, baby contests, door-to-door canvassing were all employed to make Kellogg a household name. This didn't happen without fight. The Doctor and W.K. went through years of legal battles over the name, but W.K. won out. Both men lived to be 91. Though that was certainly long enough to see the Doctor's ideas about sex and diet disproved by his beloved medical establishment (germ theory, immunological theory, molecular-genetic theory, hormonic and metabolic theory) he never retracted his claims. He was never wrong. To this day, some of his ideas about masturbation and sexuality are still polluting the populous.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-22   19:49:57 ET  (3 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10) (Edited)

Speaking of the 19th century.. you've heard the term which was a woman's ailment.. 'the vapors'.. read what it was .. hilarious!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria


Download high-resolution version (1274x1599, 365 KB)

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-22   19:56:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

did you read this whole thing? :P

“When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains – however improbable – must be the truth!" - Doyle

christine  posted on  2006-11-22   20:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

It's quite likely, though, that the doctor was in some way dysfunctional (one book suggests he had mumps). After breakfast every morning, he had an orderly give him an enema. This may mean he had klismaphilia.

Taking it up the ass is okay. but whacking off isn't?

The movie, "The Road to Wellville," suggests those are obsessed with what they eat to the point it rules their lives, are all sexually dysfunctional. It was based, roughly, on Kellogg's life.

"We become what we behold. We shape our tools and thereafter our tools shape us." -- Marshall McLuhan, after Alexander Pope and William Blake.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-11-22   20:07:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: YertleTurtle (#13)

uggests those are obsessed with what they eat to the point it rules their lives, are all sexually dysfunctional. I

That makes sense to me in an intutive way. I bet it is mainly correct.

Me, beef jerky, beer and popcorn. Got a fabtastic sex life. For the next three years. ^..^

tom007  posted on  2006-11-23   2:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#0)

“If a person is not sexually satisfied they become susceptible to outside temptation."

Uh, yeah, I guess so. Now if there was some outside temptation that would do the trick, I would have it made. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-23   5:04:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: YertleTurtle (#13)

"The Road to Wellville"

Bizarre film..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-23   10:58:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

well dont know exactly what to tell ya on this one...

Zipporah  posted on  2006-11-23   10:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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