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Title: Our State Religion: Judaism: SYNAGOGUE TO GET SACRED BOUNDARY
Source: Los Angeles Times/http://www.revisionisthistory.org/
URL Source: http://www.revisionisthistory.org/
Published: Nov 24, 2006
Author: Michael A. Hoffman II /Duke Helfand and
Post Date: 2006-11-24 23:39:17 by Max
Keywords: Our State Religion: Judaism, http://www.revisionisthistory., Michael A. Hoffman II
Views: 316
Comments: 17

Our State Religion: Judaism

Editor's Note: Judaism, whether through its Judaism-for gentiles-cult of Holocaustianity, or its hold over city councils, state legislatures and education departments in the US, enjoys relative immunity from Constitutional "separation of synagogue and state." Here is another example, from Venice, California, of Judaism's religious ritual, in this case the "eruv" (symbolic sabbath enclosure) being sponsored by the government.

SYNAGOGUE TO GET SACRED BOUNDARY

Commission approves a plan to create an eruv, or symbolic line, through Westside beach areas after ensuring rare birds will be protected.

By Duke Helfand and Charles Ornstein Los Angeles Times | November 20, 2006

An Orthodox synagogue has won permission to string a religious boundary along the beach from Santa Monica to Marina del Rey after agreeing to take steps to protect a rare bird that nests in the coastal area.

Members of the Pacific Jewish Center in Venice welcomed the California Coastal Commission's decision last week to grant their request to run fishing line between lampposts and sign poles through several miles of prime beachfront, creating an unbroken symbolic border.

The eruv boundary, which also will stretch inland through parts of Santa Monica and Los Angeles, eases certain Sabbath restrictions by allowing Orthodox Jews to consider themselves to be "at home" within its broad outlines.

Jews within the eruv would not be in violation of a religious law that forbids them from carrying things outside their homes on the Sabbath, allowing adherents to push strollers or wheelchairs and carry their keys.

It does not relieve Jews of the obligation to refrain from work on the Sabbath.

The beachfront boundary, granted for three years, will be the first of its kind in California, officials said.

"It's a relief and it's very exciting for us," said Rabbi Ben Geiger of the Pacific Jewish Center, which faced resistance from Coastal Commission staff over the safety of a protected bird and opposition from neighbors about fears of obstructed ocean views.

The boundary will run along Ocean Front Walk from Ballona Creek on the south to the Santa Monica Freeway on the north.

The roughly square border will stretch east to the San Diego Freeway.

Other eruvs wind through sections of the Westside and the San Fernando Valley.

But the beachfront version has presented unusual challenges because it will pass through the ecologically fragile nesting area of the protected least tern.

The synagogue agreed to place metallic streamers on portions of the fishing line near the nesting area to stop the birds from flying into the wire and hurting themselves.

At a hearing Thursday, coastal commissioners imposed another condition, requiring the synagogue to work with its staff to develop a system for monitoring the impact on the least tern.

Synagogue leaders will get their permit once they work out the monitoring details, which they hope to do within weeks or months at the latest.

The congregation must still raise money and obtain construction bids.

One commissioner said the compromise will help strike a balance between the competing needs of the religious community in Venice and the commission's mandate to oversee coastal regulations and protect the environment.

The three-year permit, the official said, will allow time to evaluate the impact of the eruv.

"I think it's a good solution," said commissioner Sara Wan. "We don't have a problem with this as long as it doesn't impact coastal resources."

One Jewish scholar said that similar boundaries in other areas have had little, if any, effect on neighborhoods because they blend into their surroundings.

"The eruv is invisible unless you're looking for it. You can barely pick it out, even to the trained eye, from the tangle of wires crisscrossing our streets," said Rabbi Yitzchok Adlerstein, chairman of Jewish law and ethics at Loyola Law School.

"Eruvs tend to make communities stronger," he added. "They make communities more attractive to young Jewish couples that tend to sink roots in the community, raise families there."

Members of the Pacific Jewish Center said the boundary would make a big difference to children and disabled and elderly congregants who might otherwise be confined at home during the Sabbath, which starts at sundown on Friday and continues until Saturday evening.

Rabbi Geiger said that he expects Saturday services, which now attract 60 to 70 worshipers, to swell to about 100 and bring in more children.

Congregant Lea Geller said she was "thrilled" by the commission's approval, saying that critics in the neighborhood were misinformed about the eruv.

"I've seen it described as a Jewish wall," she said. "Who really wants to live in a neighborhood with a Jewish wall? In fact, it's just a thin piece of wire."

Geller was not among those present on Saturday morning when her husband, Michael, the synagogue's president, informed the congregation of the Coastal Commission's decision.

Because there is no eruv, Lea Geller cannot carry her newborn child to Sabbath services — or push the baby in a stroller.

As soon as the wire is strung, Lea Geller said, she'll be there regularly.

"It's great news for us," she said.

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#1. To: Max (#0)

"I've seen it described as a Jewish wall," she said. "Who really wants to live in a neighborhood with a Jewish wall? In fact, it's just a thin piece of wire."

Geller was not among those present on Saturday morning when her husband, Michael, the synagogue's president, informed the congregation of the Coastal Commission's decision.

Because there is no eruv, Lea Geller cannot carry her newborn child to Sabbath services — or push the baby in a stroller.

As soon as the wire is strung, Lea Geller said, she'll be there regularly.

That's sick.

I can't believe they allowed this to happen to a very crowded CA public beach. CA has a long history of proudly protecting the public beaches for the public, not just for some exclusive little club or group.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-11-24   23:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: robin (#1)

Talmudic oppression is coming to a neighborhood near you ......

Max  posted on  2006-11-25   0:59:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin, max, all (#1)

eruv

Wow, talk about magic! Reminds me of the red string the Jews pay $25.00 (and more!) for and wrap around their wrists to protect them from the evil eye!

The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.

richard9151  posted on  2006-11-25   1:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Max (#0)

"I've seen it described as a Jewish wall," she said. "Who really wants to live in a neighborhood with a Jewish wall? In fact, it's just a thin piece of wire."

Who really wants to live in a neighborhood with a Jewish wire?

I'm not goin' to Vegas...I'm just goin' to work. - Click on 'Dusted!'

Esso  posted on  2006-11-25   8:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Esso (#4)

50,000 volt generator anyone?

When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

Dakmar  posted on  2006-11-25   9:23:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Dakmar (#5)

Kosher kike kurrent?

I'm not goin' to Vegas...I'm just goin' to work. - Click on 'Dusted!'

Esso  posted on  2006-11-25   9:29:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#1)

I find it absurd that this group of Jews see religion as nothing more than set of legalities to be overcome with tricks and manuevering. Is that a good lesson to be teaching children, that it's alright to violate the spiri of the relious laws with legalistic technicalities? What's next, "I didn't kill him, the hammer did, I was just swinging it"?

When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

Dakmar  posted on  2006-11-25   9:31:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Esso (#6)

As a member of the Church of Connectivity, I see it as a sin to leave wires uncharged.

When the going gets weird the weird turn pro. - Hunter S Thompson

Dakmar  posted on  2006-11-25   9:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Dakmar (#8)

They hate us for our electrons.

I'm not goin' to Vegas...I'm just goin' to work. - Click on 'Dusted!'

Esso  posted on  2006-11-25   9:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#9)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1165332/posts

Like other great men, once Brando received universal enlightenment he was taken from us :(

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-25   9:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

i had no idea Brando got it.

“When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains – however improbable – must be the truth!" - Doyle

christine  posted on  2006-11-25   9:59:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Max (#0)

Nothing an evening with a good pair of wire cutters can't fix.

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition




Just as there is no money in peace or freedom, there is also no money in a healthy Amerika - - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2006-11-25   14:06:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: IndieTX, Max (#12)

Nothing an evening with a good pair of wire cutters can't fix.

Communities with Eruvin (Web site links where available)

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-25   14:12:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: , *Hasbarfa Alert* (#13)

Note that there are more eruvin in New York than there are in Israel.

"...it is unlawful in the ordinary course of things or in a private house to murder a child; it should not be permitted any sect then to sacrifice children." -Thomas Jefferson

bluegrass  posted on  2006-11-25   14:17:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bluegrass (#13)

Excellent information!

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition




Just as there is no money in peace or freedom, there is also no money in a healthy Amerika - - IndieTX

IndieTX  posted on  2006-11-25   14:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#11) (Edited)

Yes. Brando understood the issue. Most do but choose to remain mum for politically correct reasons. The same people usually have no such restraint when it comes to Baptists, Catholics or non believers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-25   15:19:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Dakmar (#7)

I find it absurd that this group of Jews see religion as nothing more than set of legalities to be overcome with tricks and manuevering. Is that a good lesson to be teaching children, that it's alright to violate the spiri of the relious laws with legalistic technicalities?

The only thing new, is the way it's carried out. I was told by my bible study teacher, now an ordained minister, that the rabbis USED to just toss a shoe, and toss it again, and again, and again.....until the desired "boundary" was achieved.

What's next, "I didn't kill him, the hammer did, I was just swinging it"?

Prob'ly. I was just reading about this a couple of hours ago, i.e.:

".....The Jewish Talmud and Legally Murdering Your Neighbor

As noted elsewhere, regarding murder of the non-Jew, it is good and meritorious, providing you do not get caught and thus get the Talmudic religion exposed for what it is.

However, permissible murder in Judaism embraces more than just killing Gentiles. Murder by suffocation is permissible. Here shyster hairsplitting is inserted in the Talmud, it being permissible to seal up a neighbor in an airtight "alabaster chamber," providing one does not put in a lighted candle to help eat up the oxygen, but merely allowing the victim to expire by breathing the oxygen up himself unaided, this is acceptable. (See Exhibit 86 from Sanhedrin 77a-77b of the Talmud)

Under Talmudic "law" other forms of murder are also permissible: .........[see link below]

.......Ten "Innocent" Murderers

It is granted in the Talmud that the Bible forbids taking a man's life — but that merely means taking his life all by yourself. In other words, you must not take the whole of his life all alone, which permits you, nevertheless, to help nine other men to take a life.

Thus, it is stated in the Talmud: "If ten men smote a man with ten staves whether simultaneously or successively, and he died, they are exempt." Answering the Rabbi who suggests that killing whatever is left of a man's life might be wrong, we are also told: "If ten men assailed him successively, he was already nearly dead when the last smote him: therefore the last, too, is exempt." (See Exhibit 88)

"Mercy" Killings Approved............"

from THE JEWISH RELIGION: Its Influence Today by Elizabeth Dilling

V. TALMUDIC IMMORALITY, ASININITY AND PORNOGRAPHY: THE REPROBATE MIND

"St. Paul, who had been a Pharisee, often bores Christians who do not know what he was arguing about, in his discourses haranguing Pharisees. But one familiar with the Talmud can appreciate his diatribe against the "uncleanness" of those, "Who changed the truth of God into a lie" and: "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," until "God gave them over to a reprobate mind … . Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness … ." (Romans 1:22, 25, 28).............."

http://www.come- and-hear.com/dilling/chapt05.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-11-26   14:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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