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Title: Jury Orders Rancher to Pay Hunting Party
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URL Source: http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/ ... le?AID=/20061123/APA/611232426
Published: Nov 25, 2006
Author: AP
Post Date: 2006-11-25 17:37:41 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 921
Comments: 107
SIERRA VISTA, Ariz. | An anti-illegal immigration activist accused of threatening to shoot a Mexican-American family of hunters with an assault rifle and using racial slurs against them was ordered to pay them $98,000. A civil jury held rancher Roger Barnett only partly responsible, saying some of the blame lay with the man who sued and the man's father. Ronald Morales and his father, Arturo, were with his two young daughters and their friend when Barnett confronted them near his Douglas-area ranch and accused them of trespassing Oct. 30, 2004. Morales' lawsuit claims they were legally crossing land Barnett leases from the state. The Moraleses are U.S. citizens of Mexican descent. Barnett, who claims to have detained more than 10,000 migrants in the last 10 years, denied threatening the hunting party. He testified that he only took out his AR-15 rifle because the adults in the group were carrying rifles. Morales, a Navy veteran, said he felt justice had been served by the verdict. "We came to court and spoke the truth, and the jury heard that truth," Morales said. "Hopefully this sends a message that you can't point a gun at little kids - or anybody for that matter - and then threaten to shoot them." Barnett declined to comment, saying his lawyer advised him against speaking. His brother, Donald Barnett, expressed disappointment. "In the Morales family, the father taught the son to trespass, and now the father's teaching the daughters how to trespass in blatant disregard for the law," said Donald Barnett, who was initially named in the suit but later dropped as a defendant. "I guess in this country, private property and a person's rights don't mean much any more." The lawsuit was sponsored by the Border Action Network and the Southern Poverty Law Center, civil rights groups that have accused Barnett of acting as a vigilante and abusing illegal immigrants he detains on his ranch. The family sued Barnett for assault, false imprisonment, negligence and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The jury found in favor of all five plaintiffs Wednesday. Morales said he asked the Cochise County Attorney to press criminal charges against Barnett, but was told no jury would convict him.
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#49. To: buckeroo (#48)
How so?
Remember, free speech is a privilege, not a right. In time of war speech should be censored and even prosecuted if it crosses the line. ~ Aaron on LP
Opposing the Bush corporate police state makes one a fascist?
Christine said it. Its posted by her and its the truth, correct?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
I see. She said it while she was taking control of you. It was sort of an apology for having to shut you down. Makes sense now.
did you run off jessejane?
I am the cyber Liberaci -- buckeroo
Oh, I see .. Christine needs to be apologetic to me. Why didn't I think of that? And, here all along .. I thought it was funny.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
It was funny, but probably not in the way you thought it was.
Oh no, it was very funny. The tag line besides the thread grabbed your attention didn't it?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
That's a nice tag as well. We're all swell here.
But Morgana made that up. I didn't say that. And she is lying about that exact quote.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
I thought that tricky Morgana was up to something sinister. Thanks for the tip off.
Not her. She is just Jethro Tull's puppet from PostLiberty which doesn't exist anymore. Its not her fault.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
is this better?
II am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
Tagline Check.
II am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
JT says your head got run over by a truck when you were a kid. Is that true?
II am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
Still, you are in error both literally and without the essence of which I delivered. Can't you get anything right, girl?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
II am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
I just noted that Morgana has the same or identical tagline as yourself. Complete with errors and URL pointers. Kinda odd, isn't it that two posters attempt to play with me within five minutes? JT, is that you hiding behind a skirt?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
I copied her tagline. I thought it was appropriate for this evening.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
i think the tagline is correct. click the link and you can see the quote.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
You are too paranoid of JT. He enjoys watching you thrash around. He doesn't want to hurt you.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
But Morgana made that up. I didn't say that. And she is lying about that exact quote. is this better? II am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo Morgana le Fay posted on 2006-11-26 2:35:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #62. To: buckeroo (#58) Tagline Check. II am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo Minerva posted on 2006-11-26 2:38:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply You mean you two fixed your tagline. Aren't you happy I caught your grammatical and weblink errors?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
the weblink works. i just checked it. it is post #222 where you tell us you are the liberace of the internet.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
Are you (both of you) aware that it took you about one hour to finally get the tag line correct? I was worrying about you JT. But, now that you got your literals and URL pointers correct, you deserve a prize.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
(That's a guy there on the right.)
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
No, it only took about three minutes. We went down to the bar while you were bitching and didn't fix it until we got back.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
BTW, you could reduce the font size and subdue the colour so as to ensure that your point about me is not overwhelming in everypost you make.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
it's fine the way it is. we are going to bed now. we are going skiing tomorrow and we can't stay up all night listening to your blather.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
My heavens ... what are you two going to do without me?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
People would still see it. We will take it down if you donate $200 to the site. Like Morgan said, we have to go to bed now. We are driving to Wyoming tomorrow to go skiing and we can't stay up all night.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
we can get you over here anytime we want. so we don't worry about it.
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn. -- buckeroo
Why won't you take me with you?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
Thats exactly what I want to hear.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
It doesn't sound like something he would do. I will look on U Tube. the guy at the hotel desk said it was the same guy who sang 'King of the Road' and 'Kansas City Star'. whoever that was. King of the Road was by Roger Miller. Two Roger Miller songs appear in the film "Duane Hopwood" from 2005 (Dang Me and You Can't Rollerskate in a Buffalo Herd). Let's Talk Dirty in Hawaiian also appears in the film and is by John Prine. The film starred David Schwimmer and Janeane Garofalo. The song appears to have been first released in 1985 on the album "German Afternoons" by John Prine. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0398982/soundtrack "LET'S TALK DIRTY IN HAWAIIAN" http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/prine-john/lets-talk-dirty-in-hawaiian-15772.html Artist/Band: Prine John Well, I packed my bags and bought myself a ticket Hey, Let’s talk dirty in Hawaiian [snip]
K. When hunting, fishing, or trapping on state land, a license holder shall not: 1. Break or remove any lock or cut any fence to gain access to state land; 2. Open and not immediately close a gate; It would appear that hunters may lawfully access state lands that are leased to citizens except when limited permits are issued to deny access, and then for no more than 30 days. And, I'm betting that this individual could tell at a glance that these Mexican-Americans were lawfully hunting or plinking, and were not your average mojados. In other words, he was wrong to confront them. An experienced "Wet Mex herder" should be savvy enough to tell the diff between them and legal residents and citizens. So, he may have been venting his frustrations on browns with little regard for their rights, in which case the judgment was proper.
Thank heaven for little girls for little girls get bigger every day! Thank heaven for little girls they grow up in the most delightful way!
Good post. I am irritated to see so many at LP sounding and acting so FReeperish on this story. Goldi has succeeded in driving any element of reasoned voice out of an argument when you hear a lynch mob's chorus instead of a reasoned discussion on issues. This forum has that fault to in the irrational timbre of discussions on Zionists and Jews that begs a sane response of not wanting to listen to any of it the blurred dog snarl barking with the chain a tight guitar string between post and dog tightened to the key of blind hate. I am disappointed that Goldi after flirting with free speech has donned the garb of an SS lyncher, baiter and whiner. This guy got what he deserved, even thought the judgment was on the low side. I a satisfied by it. The immigration problem denotes why I throw up at the hypocrisy of Christianity. Anti-immigration people are so self righteous in decrying how they are hated and disrespected so much as Americans by the influx, but they are too chicken to take on those promoting the influx scared by their political and economic power and do exactly the wrong thing which is hate and bait the desperate mases coming in scapegoating them as the easier target. Why can't they see how much like a cowardly bully this makes them look? Criticism of one's neighbor as these folks surely are should come with an acknowledgment of their humanity and a warm hand of friendship and empathy. Even if it is extended with the desire for them to go back home in he heart of the hand's owner. Being concerned on an issue never is an excuse to blindly hate a group of people. That is just wrong.
It was a civil suit. Why did he deserve a $98,000 judgement against him when he was defending his own cattle from rustlers?
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
Where did he prove they were rustlers? Oh, I get it, if you look Mexican you are automatically guilty of the worst thing assumable. Figures.
Personally, I like Lewis' solution to dealing with molesters of the hunt he used in the book Deliverance by James Dickie.
The rustlers had highpowered loaded rifles.
your friendly fascist forum owner. -- christine
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIts the truth, isn't it?
#50. To: buckeroo (#48)
Its the truth, isn't it?
#51. To: Morgana le Fay (#49)
#52. To: buckeroo (#51)
Christine said it. Its posted by her and its the truth, correct?
#53. To: buckeroo (#51)
#54. To: Minerva (#52)
It was sort of an apology for having to shut you down.
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#57. To: Morgana le Fay (#53)
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#61. To: buckeroo (#58)
But Morgana made that up. I didn't say that. And she is lying about that exact quote.
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#69. To: buckeroo (#66)
JT, is that you hiding behind a skirt?
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#71. To: buckeroo (#66)
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#73. To: Morgana le Fay, Minerva (#71)
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#75. To: buckeroo (#73)
re you (both of you) aware that it took you about one hour to finally get the tag line correct
#76. To: Morgana le Fay, Minerva (#72)
#77. To: buckeroo (#76)
#78. To: Morgana le Fay (#77)
we are going to bed now.
#79. To: buckeroo (#76)
BTW, you could reduce the font size and subdue the colour so as to ensure that your point about me is not overwhelming in everypost you make.
#80. To: buckeroo (#78)
My heavens ... what are you two going to do without me?
#81. To: Minerva (#79)
Like Morgan said, we have to go to bed now.
#82. To: Morgana le Fay (#80)
we can get you over here anytime we want.
#83. To: Morgana le Fay, Minerva, Buckaroo (#24)
ArloGuthrie
Written by Fred Koller and John Prine
Performed by John Prine
Published by Universal Music Publishing Group (BMI) / Spoondevil Music and Pink Sky Music
Administered by Bug Music, Inc. (BMI)
Courtesy of Oh Boy Records
Lyrics for Song: Let's Talk Dirty In Hawaiian
Lyrics for Album: Other Songs
For the land of the tall palm tree.
Aloha ol’ Milwaukee,
Hello Waikiki
I just stepped down from the airplane
When I heard her say.
“Wacka Wacka, nuka, licka
Wacka Wacka nuka licka
Would you like a ……Lay
Whisper in my ear
Kicka puka maka waawaa heenee
Are the words I long to hear
Lay your coconut on my tickie
Whata hecka mooka mooka dear.
Let’s talk dirty in Hawaiian
Say the words I long to hear.
#84. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
J. The Commission may grant permission to lock or obliterate a gate or close a road or trail that provides legally available access to state lands for licensed hunters and fishermen if access to such lands is provided by a reasonable alternate route. Under R12-4-610, the Director may grant a permit to a state land lessee to temporarily lock a gate or close an existing road that provides access to state lands if the taking of wildlife will cause unreasonable interference during a critical livestock or commercial operation. This permit shall not exceed 30 days. Applications for permits for more than 30 days shall be submitted to the Commission for approval. If a permit is issued to temporarily close a road or gate, a copy of the permit shall be posted at the point of the closure during the period of the closure.
#85. To: HOUNDDAWG (#84)
#86. To: Ferret Mike (#85)
This guy got what he deserved ...
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