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Title: How to harass Illegal Aliens - Funny Vid
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URL Source: http://www.halturnershow.com/HowToHarassIllegalAliens.wmv
Published: Nov 27, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-11-27 19:09:11 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 1894
Comments: 143

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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

That's funny as hell...thanks, JT!

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-11-27   20:02:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

hilarious, isn't it? (g)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-27   20:11:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No. It wasn't. I feel sorry for that little evil college kid. I doubt he has worked a full day in his life or gone a day in his life with a hunger pang. Nevermind your views on illegal immigration- people don't normally leave their native lands unless they have too for friggin simple survival. It isn't funny- at all. Those guys are lucky to work 3 or 4 days a week for shit and that little stunt cost them food in their bellies. Some dipshit middle class faggot fratboy "fucking" with them hardly does anyone who takes an anti illegal immigrant stance any good at all. It plays right into the hands of open border advocates- not to mention it is just wrong.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   2:02:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Aztec Al-Qaeda (eye opening)

christine  posted on  2006-11-28   11:08:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Give me a break. This Aztecca/Atzlan nonesense is simpley absurd. Ask your typical Mexican if they have even heard of these movements and they would look at you like you with a blank stare of ignorance. To assert that Mexicans are coming here as part of some plot to eventually take over the Southwest is just beyond moronic.

That isn't to say that such nationalistic sentiment couldn't eventually arise among a large grouped population of Mexicans in the Southwest. It would be equally absurd to deny that very possible outcome. But the motive behind Mexicans coming here isn't political in the slightest.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   14:22:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But the motive behind Mexicans coming here isn't political in the slightest.

I'm sure that you are right about that. The Mexicans jumping up into the bed of the gringo's truck don't give a shit about politics. They want eat and some cash in their pockets.

Nevertheless, while the motive behind Mexicans coming here may not be political in the slightest, our SINS OF OMISSION in letting them flood over here is VERY political, and we have recently seen how effectively these people can be mobilized.

Don't kid youself, my friend. Things soon will get hot. VERY HOT.

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   14:42:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

One can make a damn good argument that the macro economics that have produced this wave of migrants is deliberate and part of a larger political re- ordering. I have no problem with such an analysis.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   14:47:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

A lot of us have a problem though with the "macroeconomics." Supply and demand seems to demand a lot of things. My nieghbor may be dry and I may have a nice 200 foot deep well that keeps me flush with drinking and bathing water. He's got a "demand" and I've got a "supply." Whether or not I let him hook up to my well (assuming that we all believe in the sanctity of private property) is my decision.

There are good macroeconomics reasons for the reunification of the Koreas. But I doubt that the folks in Seoul are going to tear down the fence and holler "Come on down!"

These are political decisions. What we have done through inumerable decisions and acts of ommision is to invite chaos.

Millions of Americans file 1040s, not because they are such good citizens, but because they fear being fined and sent to prison by the IRS. The tax people have their regulations and they enforce them. This policy of enforcement is a political decision. We also have immigration and labor laws, but we don't do shit about them. That too is a political decision.

If we put significant number of delinquent employers in jail tomorrow, this problem would largely solve itself.

No jobs - no migrants. It's just that simple.

A close friend of mind hires a lot of labor in a service industry. He checks and verifies each job applicant. ICE has a hotline now where visa status and SS numbers can be checked. He turns a lot of applicants down.

There is absolutely no excuse to perpetuate the situation that we are now in.

If you love your country, it's time to turn in all employers who support and profit from illegal immigration.

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   15:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you love your country, it's time to turn in all employers who support and profit from illegal immigration.

"Yeah, them bosses need all the help they can get."

No thanks.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   15:28:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That was a somewhat equivocal response.

Do you believe that we should demand that employers obey current hiring laws or not?

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   15:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you believe that we should demand that employers obey current hiring laws laws or not?

Hell no. The government has no right to tell me who we can hire or not hire and at what wage. Little pieces of government stamped laminated plastic and paper mean nothing to me. But go on- you help out them government bosses boy- they need all the help they can get.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   15:38:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The government has no right to tell me who we can hire or not hire and at what wage.

Does that mean you'd hire an illegal Mexican for lets say $2 dollars a day for manual labor, if he agreed?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   17:21:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My wage agreements with whom I choose to hire are none of your business.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   17:36:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My wage agreements with whom I choose to hire are none of your business.

Wrong. It is our business.

The cost of illegal hires affects our local, state and federal taxes.

Comprendo?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   18:21:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Take up your local state federal taxes with those stealing from you, not me and whom I chose to hire. It is none of your business. Under that argument anything I do is "your business". I am so sick of statist apologists and liberty haters.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   18:46:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Take up your local state federal taxes with those stealing from you, not me and whom I chose to hire.

Those you choose to hire are welfare sponges. Look to lodwicks #25 in this thread for the breakdown on costs. Tell me, Mr. Freedom, what happens when you hire Jose and he breaks his leg on your project? Who gets to pick up his hospital bill? And his follow up therapy, and the food stamps, and the rent, you get the idea...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   19:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Is our Mr. Freedom an employer?

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   19:32:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I’m not sure. He refuses to discuss the impact open borders will have on America's culture and economy, not to mention the coming North American Union. The facts are in, so actually his opinion is like a bellybutton. We all have one. He prefers to live in a utopian sphere; it’s all about him.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   19:42:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not true. Burkeman1 thinks it will lead to the eventual break-up of the Union. He is the least Utopian here, and one of the purest reactionaries. As to the North American Union stuff from Israeli-Firster Jerome Corsi, you folks need to check your sources and figure out when you are being distracted. Yes, of course, the CFR One Worlders are a threat, Islam is a threat, but how they rank as a threat in your mind is in the hands of the Conditioners.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   19:49:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As to the North American Union stuff from Israeli-Firster Jerome Corsi, you folks need to check your sources and figure out when you are being distracted.

The North American Union is a CFR concept. Corsi discussed the scheme, but it was hatched at ground zero - on East 68th, NYC.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   19:58:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, and its been public knowledge since at least the 70s, earlier if you are a Bircher or even a lefty of the Quigley variety. I trust if you were being straight with me, you would concur that our fate as a nation-state was decided long ago. Why is Corsi, Israeli Firster, making a big deal about it right now?

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   20:02:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sure the NWO has been on the march for decades, centuries perhaps, but we're here and now. That said, the plan to annex the greater SW as per the Treaty of Guadalupe is alive and well. NAFTA has morphed into CAFTA and the NAU is a common topic on Lou Dobbs, and other mainstream outlets, Corsi included. I've learned long ago not to shoot the messenger when they articulate the truth.

Keep in mind their scheme couldn't move forward w/o open borders. To welcome it for the cheap labor that follows is to witness the end of our nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   20:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your post is almost ironic.

Of course Lou Dobbs and Jerome Corsi will be allowed to promote an acceptible form of nationalism. Don't you get how the misdirection is played? Corsi, an Israeli Firster, i.e. a Traitor who come the Revolution should be on trial for his life, is your popularizer? My Goodness, learn some freakin' discipline. You are being played with a distraction.

Lou favors making English the official language and stronger public school to promote the butcher Lincoln and fascist FDR ie assimilation...is that what you want? Or do you want to throw these people out?

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   20:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And your point is what?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   20:30:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Context, that is all. If I am weary of my friends who get in line with Sean, Jerome and CNN Made For TV populists, that is the explanation.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   21:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Truth is what it is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   21:12:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Truth being what? Our government with its massive police state resources won't enforce laws already on the books so the answer is to make English the Official Language? Does not compute.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-29   7:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it's really much simpler than that, imo. #1 we need to stop the incentives/welfare encouraging them to come. #2 if we had a government whose first interests were truly that of america and americans, then every troop who is now in iraq and in 140+ countries around the world at the behest of globalist elites, would instead be on our borders guarding and protecting them. at this point, i think we must be isolationists and protectionists, else this nation will be destroyed.

christine  posted on  2006-11-29   9:27:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#2 if we had a government whose first interests were truly that of america and americans...

If ifs and buts were candied nuts. Just the absurdity of the proposition that a government can serve the "interests" of 300 million people boggles my mind. City councils in BFE can't even serve the "interests". Government is force and someone is going to be forced to serve someone else. It's inherent to the system. There is no reforming it. It must be abolished.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   18:00:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

is it not possible to have a government for, by, and of the people? a servant government? did we ever? if this thing we have now is abolished, what do we replace it with?

christine  posted on  2006-11-29   19:34:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

is it not possible to have a government for, by, and of the people?

No. But I think you already knew that.

did we ever?

No, and you knew that too, or you wouldn't have asked.

if this thing we have now is abolished, what do we replace it with?

Nothing. You'll go about you're daily business, peaceably interacting others, just like 99% of people do everyday, responsible for yourself without the largest criminal gang known to man (government) stealing half of everything you labor for.

No, it wouldn't be utopia, but if man is so bad it needs to be governed, then the last thing you want to put in place is a government made up of men. And the men attracted to governing are naturally the worst class of them all.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   20:05:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ah....a society based on the values of community and mutual aid; direct democracy; non-hierarchical organization; the absense of class division; the absense of divisions based on race, gender and nation; and the absense of institutionalized authority figures....

Do you think the MS-13 will buy into the concept?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   20:16:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

community and mutual aid

I like helping those in my community, don't you?

direct democracy

Democracy? No thanks, we have enough of that already. Two wolves and a sheep...you know the rest.

non-hierarchical organization; the absense of class division; the absense of divisions based on race, gender and nation; and the absense of institutionalized authority figures....

That would be communism, not my gig. But if people want to voluntarily join communes, be my guest, as long as they keep it to themselves.

Do you think the MS-13 will buy into the concept?

Here we go, the MS-13 boogeyman. And how many times have you or anyone you know been victimized by this MS-13? They are as nebulous an enemy to the anti-immigration advocates as Al Qaeda is to the wingnuts. Regardless though, how much of their income is a result of the drug war?

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   20:32:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here we go, the MS-13 boogeyman. And how many times have you or anyone you know been victimized by this MS-13?

Boogeyman...hehehehehe....right, they aren't a multinational, criminal organization. It's just the conspiratorial me....

OK, let’s bag the MS-13 since you say they don’t exist. Feel free to plug in any other group of thugs that inhabit this planet. How about Skinheads? Perhaps the KKK? How about our military? Surly they’ll see the virtues of your philosophy and drop their weapons (g)

What, besides your utopian pipe dream, gives you even the slightest glimmer of hope that this (and all other governments) will agree to disband. Is there a moment in history you can point to where this has happened and succeeded?

Now, back to reality and the purpose of this thread.

Since neither you nor I know what an NAU will bring, maybe its implementation isn’t such a good idea. Right? I’d be willing to take book on what changes will come. Goodbye guns, hello censorship. After all isn’t that the way of Canada and Mexico, our soon to be new majority partners? Unless of course you think our merger would give these former nations a taste of our 1st and 2nd amendment, however restricted they are. Perhaps even an exchange like we’re having on this forum will be illegal. There might come a day even you will miss the small freedoms we retain today, but then again...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   20:55:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

OK, let’s bag the MS-13 since you say they don’t exist.

I didn't say they didn't exist. I stated they are insignificant in my life and the daily life of 299,990,000 out of the 300 million Americans. That's certainly not so in the case of the government.

It amazes me to watch you tilt at windmills that have less chance of hurting you than lightning while you skim over the elephant in the room that takes half your income in taxes at gunpoint. Over and over you babble about how the government has failed to do its job, yet who are you begging to fix the problem? Government. A case of battered wife syndrom if there ever was one.

How about Skinheads? Perhaps the KKK? How about our military? Surly they’ll see the virtues of your philosophy and drop their weapons (g)

I would hope the military goes home when they're told they aren't getting their next paycheck.

As for the other groups,why should I care if they do, I'm not dropping mine. They are far less dangerous to you or I than any government agency. There isn't any body-armored, M4 carbine wielding skin-heads with a battering ram to kick in my door and seize my assets when I don't send in my yearly tribute by April 15.

What, besides your utopian pipe dream, gives you even the slightest glimmer of hope that this (and all other governments) will agree to disband.

They will never disband. We just need enough people to stop listening to them. And I'm not claiming utopia. All I'm advocating is getting rid of the largest criminal gang we have. I'm sure there'll still be the little ones.

Is there a moment in history you can point to where this has happened and succeeded?

Sure. Millions of Americans lived and died over our history without coming into contact with a government agent their entire life. It's almost impossible to imagine the growth of government over the last 80 years compared to the first several hundred on this continent.

Goodbye guns, hello censorship.

That's exactly what we need the government to try to do. No more chipping away at freedom, decade after decade where people get a little riled up, settle back down and go ho-hum. I want to see door to door confiscations, detention camps for dissenters and the like. We'll find out right then and there if there's any spirit left or whether we should just throw in the towel. But with this death by a thousands cuts shit, we'll never find out.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   21:34:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And this has what to do with illegal immigration and the creation of a North American Union?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   22:18:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And this has what to do with illegal immigration and the creation of a North American Union?

I asked you how the NAU was going to be worse than it is now. You said it would lead to taking away guns and censorship. I said bring it.

Got it?

Good.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   22:36:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hell, why wait for the inevitable?

Go get ‘em now, Mr. 54% tax compliant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   22:45:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hell, why wait for the inevitable?

Says, you. Chicken Little predictions are a dime a dozen.

Go get ‘em now, Mr. 54% tax compliant.

You pay yours too and don't even seem to have a problem with it. For you it's them scary immigrants that are the problem. And no I won't believe you if you tell me some hare-brained scheme about how you got out of it. Your car has plates, your gas is taxed, your phone, everything you buy. You're paying so keep the BS schemes to yourself.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   22:58:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Is dat Allllllah on your black flag there??

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   23:00:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Shouldn't you be under your bed hiding from the scary Mexicans right now, typing away about how you want to save our precious bodily fluids er, I mean culture? Snitch.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:30:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No. I've actually found some traitors I'm going to turn in. Bitch.

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   23:42:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No. I've actually found some traitors I'm going to turn in.

You can rationalize your snitching anyway you want stool pigeon.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:45:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#130. To: SmokinOPs (#129)

Heh heh heh.

randge  posted on  2006-11-29 23:46:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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