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Title: How to harass Illegal Aliens - Funny Vid
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URL Source: http://www.halturnershow.com/HowToHarassIllegalAliens.wmv
Published: Nov 27, 2006
Author: unknown
Post Date: 2006-11-27 19:09:11 by Jethro Tull
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Views: 2261
Comments: 143

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#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

That's funny as hell...thanks, JT!

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-11-27   20:02:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

hilarious, isn't it? (g)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-27   20:11:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

No. It wasn't. I feel sorry for that little evil college kid. I doubt he has worked a full day in his life or gone a day in his life with a hunger pang. Nevermind your views on illegal immigration- people don't normally leave their native lands unless they have too for friggin simple survival. It isn't funny- at all. Those guys are lucky to work 3 or 4 days a week for shit and that little stunt cost them food in their bellies. Some dipshit middle class faggot fratboy "fucking" with them hardly does anyone who takes an anti illegal immigrant stance any good at all. It plays right into the hands of open border advocates- not to mention it is just wrong.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   2:02:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The Aztec Al-Qaeda (eye opening)

christine  posted on  2006-11-28   11:08:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Give me a break. This Aztecca/Atzlan nonesense is simpley absurd. Ask your typical Mexican if they have even heard of these movements and they would look at you like you with a blank stare of ignorance. To assert that Mexicans are coming here as part of some plot to eventually take over the Southwest is just beyond moronic.

That isn't to say that such nationalistic sentiment couldn't eventually arise among a large grouped population of Mexicans in the Southwest. It would be equally absurd to deny that very possible outcome. But the motive behind Mexicans coming here isn't political in the slightest.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   14:22:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But the motive behind Mexicans coming here isn't political in the slightest.

I'm sure that you are right about that. The Mexicans jumping up into the bed of the gringo's truck don't give a shit about politics. They want eat and some cash in their pockets.

Nevertheless, while the motive behind Mexicans coming here may not be political in the slightest, our SINS OF OMISSION in letting them flood over here is VERY political, and we have recently seen how effectively these people can be mobilized.

Don't kid youself, my friend. Things soon will get hot. VERY HOT.

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   14:42:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

One can make a damn good argument that the macro economics that have produced this wave of migrants is deliberate and part of a larger political re- ordering. I have no problem with such an analysis.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   14:47:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

A lot of us have a problem though with the "macroeconomics." Supply and demand seems to demand a lot of things. My nieghbor may be dry and I may have a nice 200 foot deep well that keeps me flush with drinking and bathing water. He's got a "demand" and I've got a "supply." Whether or not I let him hook up to my well (assuming that we all believe in the sanctity of private property) is my decision.

There are good macroeconomics reasons for the reunification of the Koreas. But I doubt that the folks in Seoul are going to tear down the fence and holler "Come on down!"

These are political decisions. What we have done through inumerable decisions and acts of ommision is to invite chaos.

Millions of Americans file 1040s, not because they are such good citizens, but because they fear being fined and sent to prison by the IRS. The tax people have their regulations and they enforce them. This policy of enforcement is a political decision. We also have immigration and labor laws, but we don't do shit about them. That too is a political decision.

If we put significant number of delinquent employers in jail tomorrow, this problem would largely solve itself.

No jobs - no migrants. It's just that simple.

A close friend of mind hires a lot of labor in a service industry. He checks and verifies each job applicant. ICE has a hotline now where visa status and SS numbers can be checked. He turns a lot of applicants down.

There is absolutely no excuse to perpetuate the situation that we are now in.

If you love your country, it's time to turn in all employers who support and profit from illegal immigration.

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   15:25:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you love your country, it's time to turn in all employers who support and profit from illegal immigration.

"Yeah, them bosses need all the help they can get."

No thanks.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   15:28:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

That was a somewhat equivocal response.

Do you believe that we should demand that employers obey current hiring laws or not?

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   15:34:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you believe that we should demand that employers obey current hiring laws laws or not?

Hell no. The government has no right to tell me who we can hire or not hire and at what wage. Little pieces of government stamped laminated plastic and paper mean nothing to me. But go on- you help out them government bosses boy- they need all the help they can get.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   15:38:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The government has no right to tell me who we can hire or not hire and at what wage.

Does that mean you'd hire an illegal Mexican for lets say $2 dollars a day for manual labor, if he agreed?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   17:21:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My wage agreements with whom I choose to hire are none of your business.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   17:36:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My wage agreements with whom I choose to hire are none of your business.

Wrong. It is our business.

The cost of illegal hires affects our local, state and federal taxes.

Comprendo?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   18:21:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Take up your local state federal taxes with those stealing from you, not me and whom I chose to hire. It is none of your business. Under that argument anything I do is "your business". I am so sick of statist apologists and liberty haters.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-28   18:46:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Take up your local state federal taxes with those stealing from you, not me and whom I chose to hire.

Those you choose to hire are welfare sponges. Look to lodwicks #25 in this thread for the breakdown on costs. Tell me, Mr. Freedom, what happens when you hire Jose and he breaks his leg on your project? Who gets to pick up his hospital bill? And his follow up therapy, and the food stamps, and the rent, you get the idea...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   19:27:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Is our Mr. Freedom an employer?

randge  posted on  2006-11-28   19:32:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I’m not sure. He refuses to discuss the impact open borders will have on America's culture and economy, not to mention the coming North American Union. The facts are in, so actually his opinion is like a bellybutton. We all have one. He prefers to live in a utopian sphere; it’s all about him.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   19:42:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Not true. Burkeman1 thinks it will lead to the eventual break-up of the Union. He is the least Utopian here, and one of the purest reactionaries. As to the North American Union stuff from Israeli-Firster Jerome Corsi, you folks need to check your sources and figure out when you are being distracted. Yes, of course, the CFR One Worlders are a threat, Islam is a threat, but how they rank as a threat in your mind is in the hands of the Conditioners.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   19:49:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

As to the North American Union stuff from Israeli-Firster Jerome Corsi, you folks need to check your sources and figure out when you are being distracted.

The North American Union is a CFR concept. Corsi discussed the scheme, but it was hatched at ground zero - on East 68th, NYC.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   19:58:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yes, and its been public knowledge since at least the 70s, earlier if you are a Bircher or even a lefty of the Quigley variety. I trust if you were being straight with me, you would concur that our fate as a nation-state was decided long ago. Why is Corsi, Israeli Firster, making a big deal about it right now?

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   20:02:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Sure the NWO has been on the march for decades, centuries perhaps, but we're here and now. That said, the plan to annex the greater SW as per the Treaty of Guadalupe is alive and well. NAFTA has morphed into CAFTA and the NAU is a common topic on Lou Dobbs, and other mainstream outlets, Corsi included. I've learned long ago not to shoot the messenger when they articulate the truth.

Keep in mind their scheme couldn't move forward w/o open borders. To welcome it for the cheap labor that follows is to witness the end of our nation.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   20:18:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your post is almost ironic.

Of course Lou Dobbs and Jerome Corsi will be allowed to promote an acceptible form of nationalism. Don't you get how the misdirection is played? Corsi, an Israeli Firster, i.e. a Traitor who come the Revolution should be on trial for his life, is your popularizer? My Goodness, learn some freakin' discipline. You are being played with a distraction.

Lou favors making English the official language and stronger public school to promote the butcher Lincoln and fascist FDR ie assimilation...is that what you want? Or do you want to throw these people out?

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   20:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And your point is what?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   20:30:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Context, that is all. If I am weary of my friends who get in line with Sean, Jerome and CNN Made For TV populists, that is the explanation.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-28   21:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Truth is what it is.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-28   21:12:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Truth being what? Our government with its massive police state resources won't enforce laws already on the books so the answer is to make English the Official Language? Does not compute.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-29   7:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

it's really much simpler than that, imo. #1 we need to stop the incentives/welfare encouraging them to come. #2 if we had a government whose first interests were truly that of america and americans, then every troop who is now in iraq and in 140+ countries around the world at the behest of globalist elites, would instead be on our borders guarding and protecting them. at this point, i think we must be isolationists and protectionists, else this nation will be destroyed.

christine  posted on  2006-11-29   9:27:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It’s amusing watching us all try to develop some unique solution to the invasion of our nation. Any of the suggestions made would begin to yield results immediately, but keep in mind they’ll never be implemented. The elite are achieving their desired result; the integration of Mexico, Canada and the US. Is there anyone who disagrees with this? More importantly, is there anyone who welcomes it?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   9:48:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't think that the idea is to create a unique solution. I mean this is no brainstorming session in an English class.

This stuff is for real, for keeps.

There are three keys to this thing as I see it: 1) the border, 2) employers, 3) the system of benefits immigrants avail themselves of. If you can enlarge that list, please feel free to do so. Be mindful that you need to look where action has the most immediate effect.

1) The border. This is one area where uncontrolled immigration and the forces that promote it are most vulnerable. To make it short and sweet, this is also one area where we get LSO - lip service only from our govenrment. I don't have to quote you chapter and verse on this one.

3) Government benefits. Illegals to some extent use welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, unremunerated medical services, and get free public schooling and even tuition benefits at community colleges. It's important to remember that while the overall numbers are increasing that most of the immigrant coming here illegally are single men looking to to make a buck and trying stay below the radar. Most of them stay a year or two and return home with their savings. True some stay and have babies, and a few come with their families and the latter group probably burdens the system the most. However, it is also important to recognize that this is a system run by bureaucrats and Marxistas and they will not help us one bit. They have a burgeoning clientel and you can fight them tooth and nail for years and you will always outdone by their political operatives who are old hands at this game.

2) Employers. This is a most vulnerable group, and they do get cited and prosecuted for hiring illegal aliens. Employment is the real draw. It is the big magnet that drives immigration - legal and illegal. I think that you can make a strong case that this is in fact the Achilles' heel of the invasion. A lot of folks are in clear violation of the law, daily putting all their assets at risk. We have to put a big spotlight on people that hire labor illegally before the whole system is legitimized by accomodationists like the Big Decider in the White house.

I welcome your critique of my opinions here. This is just how I see it.

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   10:53:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

We have to put a big spotlight on people that hire labor illegally ...

In other words be a snitch. No thanks. That's not how respectable people did things in my old neighborhood.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   17:56:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#95. To: SmokinOPs (#92)

Welcome to the new neighborhood.

randge  posted on  2006-11-29 18:24:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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