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Published: Nov 27, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-11-27 19:09:11 by Jethro Tull
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#104. To: christine (#103)

Texas, perhaps.

What do you think?

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   19:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: randge (#104)

as in secession? if only....

christine  posted on  2006-11-29   19:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: christine (#103) (Edited)

is it not possible to have a government for, by, and of the people?

No. But I think you already knew that.

did we ever?

No, and you knew that too, or you wouldn't have asked.

if this thing we have now is abolished, what do we replace it with?

Nothing. You'll go about you're daily business, peaceably interacting others, just like 99% of people do everyday, responsible for yourself without the largest criminal gang known to man (government) stealing half of everything you labor for.

No, it wouldn't be utopia, but if man is so bad it needs to be governed, then the last thing you want to put in place is a government made up of men. And the men attracted to governing are naturally the worst class of them all.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   20:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: SmokinOPs (#106)

Ah....a society based on the values of community and mutual aid; direct democracy; non-hierarchical organization; the absense of class division; the absense of divisions based on race, gender and nation; and the absense of institutionalized authority figures....

Do you think the MS-13 will buy into the concept?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   20:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Jethro Tull (#107)

community and mutual aid

I like helping those in my community, don't you?

direct democracy

Democracy? No thanks, we have enough of that already. Two wolves and a sheep...you know the rest.

non-hierarchical organization; the absense of class division; the absense of divisions based on race, gender and nation; and the absense of institutionalized authority figures....

That would be communism, not my gig. But if people want to voluntarily join communes, be my guest, as long as they keep it to themselves.

Do you think the MS-13 will buy into the concept?

Here we go, the MS-13 boogeyman. And how many times have you or anyone you know been victimized by this MS-13? They are as nebulous an enemy to the anti-immigration advocates as Al Qaeda is to the wingnuts. Regardless though, how much of their income is a result of the drug war?

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   20:32:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: SmokinOPs (#108)

Here we go, the MS-13 boogeyman. And how many times have you or anyone you know been victimized by this MS-13?

Boogeyman...hehehehehe....right, they aren't a multinational, criminal organization. It's just the conspiratorial me....

OK, let’s bag the MS-13 since you say they don’t exist. Feel free to plug in any other group of thugs that inhabit this planet. How about Skinheads? Perhaps the KKK? How about our military? Surly they’ll see the virtues of your philosophy and drop their weapons (g)

What, besides your utopian pipe dream, gives you even the slightest glimmer of hope that this (and all other governments) will agree to disband. Is there a moment in history you can point to where this has happened and succeeded?

Now, back to reality and the purpose of this thread.

Since neither you nor I know what an NAU will bring, maybe its implementation isn’t such a good idea. Right? I’d be willing to take book on what changes will come. Goodbye guns, hello censorship. After all isn’t that the way of Canada and Mexico, our soon to be new majority partners? Unless of course you think our merger would give these former nations a taste of our 1st and 2nd amendment, however restricted they are. Perhaps even an exchange like we’re having on this forum will be illegal. There might come a day even you will miss the small freedoms we retain today, but then again...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   20:55:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

outstanding. nothing like a little dose of reality.

christine  posted on  2006-11-29   21:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: SmokinOPs (#106)

No, it wouldn't be utopia, but if man is so bad it needs to be governed, then the last thing you want to put in place is a government made up of men. And the men attracted to governing are naturally the worst class of them all.

Isn't that the truth.

"Taxes are not raised to carry on wars, wars are raised to carry on taxes."
-Thomas Paine

Lod  posted on  2006-11-29   21:12:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Jethro Tull (#109)

OK, let’s bag the MS-13 since you say they don’t exist.

I didn't say they didn't exist. I stated they are insignificant in my life and the daily life of 299,990,000 out of the 300 million Americans. That's certainly not so in the case of the government.

It amazes me to watch you tilt at windmills that have less chance of hurting you than lightning while you skim over the elephant in the room that takes half your income in taxes at gunpoint. Over and over you babble about how the government has failed to do its job, yet who are you begging to fix the problem? Government. A case of battered wife syndrom if there ever was one.

How about Skinheads? Perhaps the KKK? How about our military? Surly they’ll see the virtues of your philosophy and drop their weapons (g)

I would hope the military goes home when they're told they aren't getting their next paycheck.

As for the other groups,why should I care if they do, I'm not dropping mine. They are far less dangerous to you or I than any government agency. There isn't any body-armored, M4 carbine wielding skin-heads with a battering ram to kick in my door and seize my assets when I don't send in my yearly tribute by April 15.

What, besides your utopian pipe dream, gives you even the slightest glimmer of hope that this (and all other governments) will agree to disband.

They will never disband. We just need enough people to stop listening to them. And I'm not claiming utopia. All I'm advocating is getting rid of the largest criminal gang we have. I'm sure there'll still be the little ones.

Is there a moment in history you can point to where this has happened and succeeded?

Sure. Millions of Americans lived and died over our history without coming into contact with a government agent their entire life. It's almost impossible to imagine the growth of government over the last 80 years compared to the first several hundred on this continent.

Goodbye guns, hello censorship.

That's exactly what we need the government to try to do. No more chipping away at freedom, decade after decade where people get a little riled up, settle back down and go ho-hum. I want to see door to door confiscations, detention camps for dissenters and the like. We'll find out right then and there if there's any spirit left or whether we should just throw in the towel. But with this death by a thousands cuts shit, we'll never find out.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   21:34:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: SmokinOPs (#112)

No more chipping away at freedom, decade after decade where people get a little riled up, settle back down and go ho-hum. I want to see door to door confiscations, detention camps for dissenters and the like. We'll find out right then and there if there's any spirit left or whether we should just throw in the towel. But with this death by a thousands cuts shit, we'll never find out.

I second that. I want to get this over with now. I don't want to leave it to my kid to deal with.


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Critter  posted on  2006-11-29   21:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: SmokinOPs (#112)

And this has what to do with illegal immigration and the creation of a North American Union?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   22:18:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Jethro Tull (#114)

Nothin'

Jus' blowin' smoke on a Winsday night.

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   22:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: randge (#115)

Seriously.

And BTW, if paying 54% of his income in taxes is such a thorn in his side, just say no to the IRS, local and state governments. IIRC, 47 million other Americans have done the same.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   22:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Jethro Tull (#114)

And this has what to do with illegal immigration and the creation of a North American Union?

I asked you how the NAU was going to be worse than it is now. You said it would lead to taking away guns and censorship. I said bring it.

Got it?

Good.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   22:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: SmokinOPs (#117)

Hell, why wait for the inevitable?

Go get ‘em now, Mr. 54% tax compliant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   22:45:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Jethro Tull (#118)

Hell, why wait for the inevitable?

Says, you. Chicken Little predictions are a dime a dozen.

Go get ‘em now, Mr. 54% tax compliant.

You pay yours too and don't even seem to have a problem with it. For you it's them scary immigrants that are the problem. And no I won't believe you if you tell me some hare-brained scheme about how you got out of it. Your car has plates, your gas is taxed, your phone, everything you buy. You're paying so keep the BS schemes to yourself.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   22:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: SmokinOPs (#119)

Is dat Allllllah on your black flag there??

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   23:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: SmokinOPs (#119)

You pay yours

Wrong. Try again Mr. Compliant.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   23:03:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

Them anarchists are some bad.

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   23:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: randge (#122)

I think i have this right. The Compliant-One is a wannabe anarchist who is promoting open borders so he can shoot government agents when they come to collect his way too high taxes.

When pigs fly...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   23:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Jethro Tull (#121)

Wrong. Try again Mr. Compliant.

Bullshit.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Jethro Tull (#123)

I think i have this right. The Compliant-One is a wannabe anarchist who is promoting open borders so he can shoot government agents when they come to collect his way too high taxes.

Not even close. But I expect lies and misrepresentations from someone who doesn't have enough balls to even give a ping.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:27:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: randge (#120) (Edited)

Shouldn't you be under your bed hiding from the scary Mexicans right now, typing away about how you want to save our precious bodily fluids er, I mean culture? Snitch.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: SmokinOPs (#124)

Bullshit.

It's true. I paid zero federal income tax. Now, if you have a really big set of balls, I can prove it. But since I'm a capitalist, I insist on a wager. Let’s do 20k. k? If yes, let’s meet with an agreed upon independent 3rd party at a time and place of your choosing.

Your move, Braveheart.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-29   23:33:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: SmokinOPs (#126)

No. I've actually found some traitors I'm going to turn in. Bitch.

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   23:42:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: randge (#128)

No. I've actually found some traitors I'm going to turn in.

You can rationalize your snitching anyway you want stool pigeon.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:45:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: SmokinOPs (#129)

Heh heh heh.

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-29   23:46:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Jethro Tull (#127)

It's true. I paid zero federal income tax. Now, if you have a really big set of balls, I can prove it. But since I'm a capitalist, I insist on a wager. Let’s do 20k. k? If yes, let’s meet with an agreed upon independent 3rd party at a time and place of your choosing.

And if you are liable for it, your time will come. And I didn't just mention income tax now did I? You're paying those property taxes ain't you. Plating that car ain't you. Gas tax and telephone tax. Sales tax, building permit tax-you'll pay 'em. You just chose not to pay the tax that will take the longest time for the government to get around to you. But they will.

Maybe you'll get a cell with Irwin Schiff or they'll seize your assets and leave you on the street. But it's so much more important to stop those Mexicans ain't it?

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: randge (#130)

Heh heh heh.

No, a pigeon goes 'cooo, cooo, cooo.'

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-29   23:53:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: randge (#101)

High brown journalism? Pretty much just the opposite. White Nationalist tactics acceptible to the masses. So what if Weiner can read Hard Right publications; when Rush and Hannity are the gatekeepers for acceptible policy solutions, we get assimilation and a Maginot Line.

JohnGalt  posted on  2006-11-30   7:09:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: SmokinOPs (#132)

Heh heh heh..

Give 'til it hurts. Gun Owners of America

randge  posted on  2006-11-30   8:24:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: SmokinOPs (#131)

So the bet is off? I knew if I gave you a chance to meet me, and attempt to disprove what I said, you’d fold like a cheap suit. You didn’t disappoint me.

What is your bitch? Aren't you consoled by the fact that the 54% income tax you contribute voluntarily is being used, in part, to support Mexican illegals? Once they break in to our country they – and their brood sows - need lots of social benefits to supplement the off the book wages people like you, and other talking anuses, give them. I'd think this income tax charity you willingly extend would make you feel good. Perhaps it will as more and more needy break into America and extend their hand while demanding even more.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-30   8:49:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Jethro Tull (#135)

So the bet is off?

We never had one.

I knew if I gave you a chance to meet me

As tempting as it is for me to fly around the country to meet anonymous internet cranks...golly, well it's just so tempting. Not really.

and attempt to disprove what I said

It would be impossible for me to prove or disprove your tax compliance (let alone your income) as I don't have access to the IRS computer data base.

you contribute voluntarily

Oh boy, here we go with that tired old scheme. Yeah, the Treasury keeps SWAT teams around to deal with all those "volunteers". Heard that line a hundred times. It's bullshit no matter how much you want to believe it because right or wrong a jury will convict you and a Judge will sentence you and men with guns will escort you to a cage or put a niece yellow lien seal on your front door or both.

Once they break in to our country they

Our? I only own my piece and only tentatively if I don't mail a check twice a year.

I'd think this income tax charity you willingly extend would make you feel good. Perhaps it will as more and more needy break into America and extend their hand while demanding even more.

Because that's such a big portion of where taxes go, right? Give me an effing break. All this is about is for once in your life you've found a class of people lower on the political totem pole than you and now you actually think you have a chance to be part of a movement to have the government lord it over someone else for a change.

Government lording it over people is the opposite of what I'm about and I don't care where they were born.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-30   10:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: SmokinOPs (#136) (Edited)

I offered, you didn't accept. I understand. We all do.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-30   10:15:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Jethro Tull (#137)

I offered, you didn't accept. I understand.

Apparently not. Goading me to meet you to examine the unprovable is revealing what a crackpot you are though.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-30   10:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: SmokinOPs (#138)

I hear you Mr Compliant.....zero balls (g)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-30   10:26:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Jethro Tull (#139)

I hear you Mr Compliant.....zero balls

Are you frothing at the mouth yet goober? LOL, what a loser.

Just think about what a nut you are, anonymously goading someone to travel across the country to settle a bet.A bet that can't be confirmed either way because I can't see the IRS database that would show whether you made a payment or not, nor do I have the means to independently verify your income. LOL, wow, are you out there.

Kooks like you are why I have nothing but contempt for the so-called "Patriot" movement."

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-30   12:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: SmokinOPs (#140) (Edited)

No, I'm actually LMAO :)

Had you a clue about governmental growth, you’d realize that the illegal invasion you’re welcoming is growing the very entity you despise. An example of the cost of this national suicide is posted in #25 on this thread, but I’m not expecting this harsh truth will change your mind. That would take intellectual honesty, and to date you’ve exhibited none. That said, do us a favor and stop complaining about your high taxes. You not only voluntarily pay them, but you also support the very action that increases them.

One more thing. Drop that childish anarchist tagline you use. Woody Allen is more of an anarchist than you are.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-30   13:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: Jethro Tull (#141)

That said, do us a favor and stop complaining about your high taxes.

I don't owe you any favors. You can hit the bozo button any time.

but you also support the very action that increases them.

The very action that increases them is causes like yours that call for the government to increase to fix the very problem it caused in the first place.Battered wife syndrom tinkering on the edge of the problem. Another useless "reform" in a never ending series. What do you want? More border guards, multi-billion dollar fences, and a giant enforcement apparatus to go around checking employers to make sure they only hire people you approve of. No thanks.

Hacking at branches and ignoring the root cause is the typical response of your breed of activist. Always on the defensive and you'll never gain an inch. I've alluded to this in several posts and you haven't rebutted it yet.

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SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-11-30   15:12:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: SmokinOPs (#142)

You can hit the bozo button any time.

you talked me into it, woody. adios.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-11-30   15:20:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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