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Title: Bush's utter failure in Iraq (A Reichwinger's take on the Iraq War now- too funny)
Source: WorldNetDaily
URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52950
Published: Nov 15, 2006
Author: Joe Farah
Post Date: 2006-11-30 15:44:00 by Burkeman1
Keywords: None
Views: 461
Comments: 41

It's time to acknowledge the truth. President Bush's policies in Iraq have been an utter failure.

I say this as someone who supported the invasion of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein – and as someone who still believes these were noble and morally right endeavors.

When we undertook the decision to invade Iraq, there were good reasons to do so:

- Saddam Hussein was an ally and supporter of Islamic terrorists, including al-Qaida;

- Saddam Hussein was a brutal tyrant responsible for unimaginable torture, repression of his own people and a war in the Middle East that killed more than 1 million;

- Saddam Hussein refused to disclose where his stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons had gone – some of which had already been used to kill thousands of Kurds in his own country;

- Saddam Hussein had a long history of efforts to develop nuclear weapons and we – all of us, Democrats and Republicans alike – were all uncertain about the status of his progress.

President Bush had rightly declared that we would fight the kind of enemy that had attacked us Sept. 11, 2001, wherever we found it. And, there was no question that enemy had an ally in Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

It was a logical – if not the only – possible next front in our war on Islamofascists. And, make no mistake about it, Saddam Hussein, though hardly a pious Muslim, fit the description of Islamofascist to the T.

The war was conducted brilliantly in its first phase – the toppling of the dictator.

The second phase, we all understood, would be trickier. Bush and his spokesmen rightly predicted that Iraq could prove to be a battleground that attracted our Islamofascist enemies from around the world. That would be a good thing, they explained. Better to fight them on the battlefield of our choosing than on the battlefield of their choosing. Better to fight them over there than over here.

So far, so good.

The tragic mistake came in the execution of this second phase of the war – which today, we're told, is not a war at all, but a "situation."

Brave, dedicated, well-trained and well-armed U.S. soldiers were given new orders. They could not crush the enemy under new rules of engagement. They had to fight with one hand tied behind their back. This was more akin to a police action than a war. U.S. soldiers were court-martialed left and right. Military decisions had to be made in consultation with Iraqi leaders and politicians in Washington. When enemy strongholds were identified, we could no longer simply engage and destroy them.

Iraq did become, in a sense, another Vietnam – though U.S. casualties never rose to similarly shocking numbers. It was never about not having enough troops on the ground, as some suggested. It was a matter of not allowing them to kill people and break things – which is what soldiers do.

The mantra for the Bush administration became "stay the course."

When progress is measured in years and billions of dollars and rising casualty figures, "stay the course" is a losing slogan – as we all found out on Election Day.

Bush had become Lyndon Johnson in 1968. And now, having orchestrated the Democratic takeover of the Congress, he is Richard Nixon in 1972.

America is now waving the white flag again. Now it's just about finding a way out of Iraq – an "honorable" retreat. Bush missed the opportunity to do what he set out to do – or told us he set out to do. He refused to defeat the enemy by any means necessary. He refused to go for the jugular and achieve victory over the Islamofascists. And, in war, anything short of victory is defeat.

No matter what you might think about our entry into this war in Iraq, the undeniable reality today is that we are fighting al-Qaida – the terrorist group that attacked this country Sept. 11, 2001, killing 3,000 Americans, destroying the World Trade Center and even damaging the Pentagon itself, something no enemy in America's history had ever accomplished.

That's who we are fighting in Iraq now. Just as Bush and his spokesmen had promised, they came from around the world to engage America – not in an attempt to defeat our troops on the battlefield, which they understood they could never do, but simply to make our stay there costly and uncomfortable. Their goal was the same as the North Vietnamese Communists' goal – bleed America in a dragged out conflict of low intensity so that opposition forces back home make it impossible to stay.

That's exactly what happened.

Now, it's just a waiting game for our enemies. They have won. The die is cast. The opportunity to destroy the Islamofascists on the battlefield of our choosing has been squandered.

With this bad experience behind us, it is unlikely we will choose to fight them again on any other foreign battlefield.

And that means only one thing – we will be forced to fight them here.


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#1. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

good reasons to do so

conducted brilliantly

Will read the whole thing, but starting here, with the justifications that were essentially wrong.

For example, Saddams's gifts to shaheeds in Palestine were overshadowed by Saudi contributions.

His gassing, well, under full approval of the USUK, to the point of us providing satellite imagery of Iranian units that were to be gassed.

Every Arab country had connections to AQ, but certain US allies had a LOT more.

We do blow our own horn in overthrowing a third world army, decimated by the first bush war and then denuded by sanctions and with thousands of unwilling conscripts in its ranks.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-30   15:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

- Saddam Hussein was a brutal tyrant responsible for unimaginable torture, repression of his own people and a war in the Middle East that killed more than 1 million;

Erm... Didn't he do all of these things with the full support and backing of the US government? Didn't we give him his WMDs in the first place? Didn't we give him weapons and supplies to fight the Iranians with?

Some fucking noble mission. Deconstructing our own Frankenstein.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-30   15:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: swarthyguy (#1)

Actually- the first line starts off the fun:

It's time to acknowledge the truth.

As oppossed to all his past columns in which he wasn't telling the truth? He then goes onto to tell one whopping lie after another. This sort of thing is now Gospel among reichwingers.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   15:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: swarthyguy (#1)

We do blow our own horn in overthrowing a third world army, decimated by the first bush war and then denuded by sanctions and with thousands of unwilling conscripts in its ranks.

No kidding. "Conducted brilliantly"????

Going to Baghdad was a walkover, and even the Russians could have done that part.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-11-30   15:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

One could make a decent case for pooper scooper diplomacy and invasion, Panama, Iraq, - messes made by our own pitbulls.

The tragedy of Iraq is the utter incompetence of American Okkupied Iraq.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-30   15:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

the undeniable reality today is that we are fighting al-Qaida

Well, sometimes, but at other times, the indigenous, exbaathi Sunni resistance, and depending on the day, various Shia militias and sometimes working with each of the groups we were fighting the other day.

It's telling that he doesn't even touch what I consider one of the good things accomplished - the freeing of the Kurds.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-30   15:55:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: swarthyguy (#1) (Edited)

Here is my favorite line:

The second phase, we all understood, would be trickier. Bush and his spokesmen rightly predicted that Iraq could prove to be a battleground that attracted our Islamofascist enemies from around the world. That would be a good thing, they explained. Better to fight them on the battlefield of our choosing than on the battlefield of their choosing. Better to fight them over there than over here.

Yeah- that second phase- that Bush planned. See- he planned it I tell you. It was part of the plan to make Iraq a contained battlefield to fight AQ in. Yeah- that's the ticket- that was always his reasoning! Yeah!

LOL- this guy is too funny. The last line is good too- about how, because Bush was too much of a weeny to kill half the Iraqi population and carpet bomb cities we now are going to have to fight the bad guys "here". Yeah- they are going to invade- there will be RPGs criss crossing our streets! Fire fights in our urban centers with islamofascist insurgents! This stuff is perfect reichwingerism.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   15:55:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Burkeman1 (#3)

Saddam Hussein was an ally and supporter of Islamic terrorists, including al-Qaida

That doesn't sound much like the truth to me.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-30   15:56:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

- Saddam Hussein was an ally and supporter of Islamic terrorists, including al-Qaida;

I stop read at the very first lie out of the box.

It's all "Diebolds" fault...

Brian S  posted on  2006-11-30   15:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: aristeides (#8)

Farah believes that Saddam was behind 9/11, the first WTC bombing, the Murrah federal building bombing, and the anthrax attacks- but a vast "leftist" conspiracy in our government has kept these "facts" from getting out.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   16:00:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Brian S (#9)

Oh you shouldn't- you should read it all. It is quite a work of fiction.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   16:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Burkeman1 (#10)

Saddam was behind 9/11

One of the sadnesses inflicted upon the Iraki population is that our armed forces were indoctrinated in this fiction.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-30   16:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: swarthyguy (#12)

Saddam was behind 9/11

One of the sadnesses inflicted upon the Iraki population is that our armed forces were indoctrinated in this fiction.

Well they needed a motive, and revenge is a powerful motivation for many people.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-11-30   16:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: swarthyguy (#12)

One of the sadnesses inflicted upon the Iraki population is that our armed forces were indoctrinated in this fiction.

Quite deliberatly so and it continues to this day. On one of the network morning shows a week or so ago- a telepod cast was being shown in which a soldier was talking to his wife/girlfriend from Iraq- taking up the entire backround of the solider was a depiction of the WTC towers on fire and a caption reading "Defending America is what we do" or something like that.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   16:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Burkeman1 (#7)

Really, the self delusion is staggering. I well remember back in those days when anyone suggested that a guerilla war would occur in Iraq; the Busheviks would shriek "Nonsense! It will be a cakewalk, you defeatist, you!" They only claimed the "flypaper theory" was the plan after the "cakewalk theory" collapsed.

alpowolf  posted on  2006-11-30   16:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#13)

I wonder how they feel, now that they know they were lied to.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-30   16:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: alpowolf (#15)

And of course it is nonsense. The military itself says that "foreign fighters" are less than 4 percent of the total insurgency- and I suspect even that is a lie.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   16:33:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: alpowolf (#15) (Edited)

Really, the self delusion is staggering. I well remember back in those days when anyone suggested that a guerilla war would occur in Iraq; the Busheviks would shriek "Nonsense! It will be a cakewalk, you defeatist, you!" They only claimed the "flypaper theory" was the plan after the "cakewalk theory" collapsed.

The right wingnuts have a lot of their personal phychs invested in being right on Iraq. It is almost impossible for them to admit they were wrong about everything. Denial of reality is all a part of the ego defense mechanisms. Hell, there's still a large group that firmly believes we could have won in Viet Nam. They could never admit that we simply got our asses kicked.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-11-30   16:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Arete (#18)

Hell, there's still a large group that we could have won in Viet Nam

Col. H. Summers (to Gen Giap) - You know, you never won a set piece battle with our troops.

Gen Giap - That may well be true, but it is also totally irrelevant.

At a late 80's/early 90's Viet shindig.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-11-30   16:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Burkeman1 (#11)

you should read it all. It is quite a work of fiction.

it moved quickly from fiction to delusion bump

"Taxes are not raised to carry on wars, wars are raised to carry on taxes."
-Thomas Paine

Lod  posted on  2006-11-30   17:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Arete (#18)

The reichwinger line on Vietnam is nearly identical to the German reichwinger line after world war one- that just at the moment of victory- they were betrayed by communists and . . . Jews. Only among the reichwingers- their scapegoat is a nebulous enemy called "the Left" that seems to be everywhere and yet- nowhere.

See- the "librul" Meee-Dee-Ah that parroted the Gulf of Tonkin lies like automatons and hand puppets and otherwise dutifully toed the line on that war (though not even approaching the craven levels of government boot kissing, war cheerleading, and groveling that our "free" Meeee-Deee-Ah does today on Iraq and the WOT in general) after spewing idiotic after idiotic prediction about "winning" the war for 6 years- finally started to question the bullshit of the military - it was them- the "leftists" that control the Mee-Dee-Ah that undermined the war and caused "us" to "lose our will". See- it wasn't the nauseting build up of lies about Vietnam from our government and military- the very nature of the war itself- nope- it was the "5th column" at home that undermined the war effort. It always is such with the lost wars of governments- always someones elses fault.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   17:42:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Arete (#18)

The right wingnuts have a lot of their personal phychs invested in being right on Iraq. It is almost impossible for them to admit they were wrong about everything. Denial of reality is all a part of the ego defense mechanisms.

My sister is becoming increasingly more entrenched. Last Thanksgiving, she was more receptive to alternative viewpoints than this year.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-11-30   17:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Arete (#18)

With this bad experience behind us, it is unlikely we will choose to fight them again on any other foreign battlefield.

And that means only one thing – we will be forced to fight them here.

So when the Islamic hordes don't teleport themselves to our shores and American cities don't become Beiruts because "we" ended up "losing" in Iraq- what will reichwingers say then?

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   17:49:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

omg. i'm retching reading his saddam laundry list. this asshole needs to get a history clue.

christine  posted on  2006-11-30   18:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#22)

My sister is becoming increasingly more entrenched.

Does she listen to mainstream talk radio or Fox News ?

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."

Patrick Henry

noone222  posted on  2006-11-30   18:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

Erm... Didn't he do all of these things with the full support and backing of the US government? Didn't we give him his WMDs in the first place? Didn't we give him weapons and supplies to fight the Iranians with?

Those are "left wing" facts. I love how Saddam suddenly became responsible for "gassing his own people" 14 years after the fact when the US wanted to demonize him. At the time when Saddam did "Gas his own people" the US, then a friend to Saddam- arming him- and helping him direct his gas attacks on Iranian troops- the US government floated the idea that Iran was behind this attack. In fact- it wasn't until the drumbeat for war against Iraq began after 9/11 that any US official claimed Iraq did that gassing.

Ah- well- don't let the fact that the US aided and abetted the crimes and sins of Saddam Hussein for its own selfish "real politik" reasons get in the way of then using those very same crimes and evil deeds as justification for war against him.

I think you have to go back to the Hitler/Stalin pact to find a comparable absurdity and shameful disregard for the truth- as when Russia- which had helped carve up Poland and even returned German Jews and communists over to the Nazis - then cited the aggression of Germany towards Poland in their anti German propaganda.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-11-30   18:21:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Burkeman1 (#21)

always someones elses fault.

Yep, that's an easy call - It's going to be the group (again) that hates America.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-11-30   18:24:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: noone222 (#25)

worse, Dennis Prager

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-11-30   18:24:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: robin (#28)

I have a friend that listens to Prager ... and thinks he speaks the unvarnished truth. I don't have an opportunity to listen to Prager so I don't know what his spin specialty is ... I only know he's a so-called Jew and probably supports the zio-nazi State of Israel.

My friend also likes Savage (another Jew), but he's slowly coming around as the factual information seeps slowly through his thick skull and truth chips away at his lifelong brainwashing.

He's my pet project and responsible for my increased patience ! (Ha !)

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."

Patrick Henry

noone222  posted on  2006-11-30   18:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: noone222 (#29)

the aptly named KJV phrase "long suffering" = patience

A woman in my Sunday School class used to say, never pray to have more patience, it's a painful lesson. ;P

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-11-30   18:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: robin (#22)

My sister is becoming increasingly more entrenched. Last Thanksgiving, she was more receptive to alternative viewpoints than this year.

Well, she had better prepare herself because I predict that by the end of the year, Dear Leader is going to abandon his true believing corps on their own island of delusion. In spite of all of Bush's media hyped posturing today, we're leaving Iraq sooner rather than later. You can take that to the bank.

Richard W.

Arete  posted on  2006-11-30   19:07:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Burkeman1 (#21)

Actually, the German rightwingers after World War One didn't just blame Communists and Jews for their defeat. They also blamed groups as nebulous as today: the left, Marxism, liberals, the "November criminals" who set up the Weimar Republic.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-11-30   19:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

Hmm... WND... good ol' fashioned "conservatism" of the... uh... yeah...

Rock gives children, on a silver platter, with all the public authority of the entertainment industry, everything their parents always used to tell them they had to wait for until they grew up and would understand later. --Allan Bloom

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gargantuton  posted on  2006-11-30   19:28:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Burkeman1 (#10)

Farah believes that Saddam was behind 9/11, the first WTC bombing, the Murrah federal building bombing, and the anthrax attacks- but a vast "leftist" conspiracy in our government has kept these "facts" from getting out.

I've said for some time now that it would be wise to be wary of Farah and his Lebanese Phalangist roots. He has been caught before spreading disinformation which was sympathetic to the Zionists.

"It is the old practice of despots to use a part of the people to keep the rest in order; and those who have once got an ascendency and possessed themselves of all the resources of the nation, their revenues and offices, have immense means for retaining their advantages." Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1798

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-30   20:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: alpowolf (#15)

I well remember back in those days when anyone suggested that a guerilla war would occur in Iraq; the Busheviks would shriek "Nonsense! It will be a cakewalk, you defeatist, you!" They only claimed the "flypaper theory" was the plan after the "cakewalk theory" collapsed.

LOL I hear ya. The bots without fail said I "hated America" and other such drivel.

I wrote on my regular website shortly after the Iraq invasion,

"It is the old practice of despots to use a part of the people to keep the rest in order; and those who have once got an ascendency and possessed themselves of all the resources of the nation, their revenues and offices, have immense means for retaining their advantages." Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1798

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-11-30   20:35:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: BTP Holdings (#35)

you nailed it early on.

christine  posted on  2006-11-30   21:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

Bush had become Lyndon Johnson in 1968. And now, having orchestrated the Democratic takeover of the Congress, he is Richard Nixon in 1972.

That seems to be just a little to coincidental to be happenstance...

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2006-11-30   21:28:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: aristeides (#32)

Actually, the German rightwingers after World War One didn't just blame Communists and Jews for their defeat. They also blamed groups as nebulous as today: the left, Marxism, liberals, the "November criminals" who set up the Weimar Republic.

How come everyone seems to always miss "bankers" and their egregious floods of credit and string pulling in those lists???

"pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels – bring home for Emma"

Axenolith  posted on  2006-11-30   21:40:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Axenolith (#38)

How come everyone seems to always miss "bankers" and their egregious floods of credit and string pulling in those lists???

I guess they've been mostly successful at remaining anonymous.

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973

robin  posted on  2006-11-30   22:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Burkeman1 (#0)

rules of engagement

one armed tied behind their backs

What a maroon. The issue is our army is not built for either urban warfare against native insurgencies or nation-building. The generals who planned this war to Bush's specs deserve some of the blame here. They knew their troops were not trained for this war.

Unless, as some mutts in the wingnutosphere have suggested, you're willing to commit mass murder of innocent civilians, the insurgent is almost certain to kick your butt, provided he's willing to take a lot of losses.

When we went in, the promise was that we would be home in six months, tops. The problem was, we couldn't figure out a way to take the oil with us, so we stayed. Which gave the insurgency the time to coalesce and figure out tactics. At first, they got slaughtered charging U.S. units. But they learned fast. We have no chance of suddenly defeating them. We can't respond to their tactics without an absolute reign of terror.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-11-30   22:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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