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Title: Buchanan: The War Of All Against All
Source: Worldnetdaily
URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53178
Published: Dec 1, 2006
Author: Pat Buchanan
Post Date: 2006-12-01 11:22:56 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 221
Comments: 13

A few days back, the "Today" show, speaking for NBC News, declared Iraq a "civil war," and said the network and CNBC and MSNBC would henceforth use that term to describe it.

President Bush and White House press secretary Tony Snow angrily objected. A civil war, said Snow, is when two identifiable armed forces war with each other for control of a government and nation. And Iraq is not that.

Contradicting Snow and the president are most journalists and Colin Powell. Speaking in Dubai, Powell declared, "I would call it a civil war ... because I like to face reality," a smart slap across the face of the president who made him secretary of state by a soldier who feels badly used by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the neoconservatives.

Is this a matter of politics and semantics?

Yes, but it is also far more than that. Those who insist on calling Iraq a civil war are consciously undercutting Bush's case that Iraq is "the central front in the war on terror," that we fight them over there so that we will not have to fight them over here.

Believing him, half the country is convinced we cannot retreat, cut-and-run, for that would mean the terrorists win in Iraq and bring the terror war to the United States. But if Iraq is but a "civil war," most American would say that it's not America's war – let's go home.

This battle over definitions recalls Vietnam. Those who wanted to stay the course in Vietnam argued that it was the central front in the Cold War against communism, which threatened Southeast Asia today but America tomorrow. Those who had supported the war, but concluded it was no longer worth it, suddenly changed their story to declare it was now a civil war and none of America's business.

What is happening today is that those who once cheered Tommy Frank's march to Baghdad to liberate Iraq from Saddam are trying to rationalize their throwing Iraq to the wolves that the invasion unleashed. America's elite does not wish to admit the truth: that it has no stomach for fighting this ugly and unpopular war into which it foolishly marched the United States.

The baby boomer elite arrogantly and ignorantly led us into a quagmire, as their fathers did in Vietnam – and now, just like their fathers, they lack the stamina, courage and perseverance to see it through. As they don't want to be held accountable for losing the war, they have seized upon the rationale that it was never our war to fight.

Calling it "a civil war" is a cover for people who wish to cut and run.

What is the truth? Is it a civil war, like the Spanish Civil War of 1936-1939, when Franco led his armies out of North Africa into Spain to overthrow a regime and end an anarchic situation where priests and nuns were being murdered and Bolsheviks seemed about to ascend to power? No, it is not.

The war in Iraq consists rather of many small wars. The Kurds in the north are seizing and ethnically cleansing Kirkut in anticipation of a day of secession that will give them a nation. Al-Qaida and the Baathists in Anbar are fighting U.S. Marines to expel them from Iraq.

Al-Qaida attacked the Golden Mosque and perpetrated atrocities against Shia civilians to incite the Shia to reprisals and ignite a Sunni-Shia sectarian war. Zarqawi, before we got him, succeeded. He set off the chain reaction that has now a momentum of its own.

The Shia initially backed the Americans and Brits against the Sunni insurgents. Having won power, however, they now are fighting each other over how orthodox the regime should be, and whether the Shia should, like the Kurds, break away and set up an independent state.

The twin pillars of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's government are the U.S. military and Moqtada al Sadr, mortal enemies who have fought bloodily before and may well be preparing for a decisive Battle of Baghdad.

Iraq seems to this writer less a classic civil war, like the Spanish and the Russian civil war between "Reds" and "Whites" from 1919 to 1921, than a version of bellum omnium contra omnes, the war of all against all. That is the Latin phrase Thomas Hobbes gave to human existence in the state-of-nature thought experiment he conducted in "Leviathan."

Even our War Between the States was not truly a civil war. For the South did not seek to overturn Lincoln's election, capture the capital or rule the country. The South wanted only to secede from the Union of Abraham Lincoln as their fathers had seceded from the England of George III.

Yet, this argument about whether Iraq is or is not a civil war is deeply consequential for what it exposes. Our elite senses this war is lost, and they are preparing alibis for their roles in what may yet prove the greatest strategic blunder in American history.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Yet, this argument about whether Iraq is or is not a civil war is deeply consequential for what it exposes. Our elite senses this war is lost, and they are preparing alibis for their roles in what may yet prove the greatest strategic blunder in American history

Amen, Iraq has been the greatest blunder in my lifetime (with V/N a close 2nd). But it will yield one positive result; even a lapdog MSM won't be able to resuscitate the leading neocons figureheads. Either their philosophy will morph into something new, or it will fade away. I'm betting on the former.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-01   11:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Amen, Iraq has been the greatest blunder in my lifetime

Depends on your definition of "blunder" and your objectives. If you are interested in the security and stability of the middle east or of the United States, obviously this was a blunder.

But if your interest was the security and pre-eminence of Israel in the region, this war was a brilliant success. Shia pitted against Sunni in the geographical corpse of your fiercest rival; Kurds pitted against Turks in the North, effectively neutralizing Turkey; The Saudis forced to support the minority Sunni against the majority Shia; Iran forced to try to stabilize their neighbor against the Saudi and Syria backed Sunni; the potential of Saudis at war with Iranians, effectively dispatching both as threats to Israel, nuclear Pakistan embroiled in the Pashtun conflict in Afghanistan and forced to face instability and the Hobson's choice of supporting Americans or Taliban (who are, after all, just Pashtun...)

Who is gonna get in the way of Israel's ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians now? Who is gonna stop them from trashing Lebanon again?

We've neutralized or destabilized EVERY SINGLE ONE of Israel's potential enemies with the exception of Egypt.

Brilliantly successful.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-12-01   12:45:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Brian S (#0)

Our elite senses this war is lost, and they are preparing alibis for their roles in what may yet prove the greatest strategic blunder in American history.

I'm hoping against hope itself that the war criminals are publicly reduced to begging for their lives, crying in desparation, falling from weakened knees, knowing their time to face the music is at hand ... as the rope tightens around their pencil necks and their feet kick uncontrollably, the last breath they will ever take on this planet, gasping, pathetically from their lying, dying murdering lips.

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."

Patrick Henry

noone222  posted on  2006-12-01   12:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

But if your interest was the security and pre-eminence of Israel in the region, this war was a brilliant success.

Brilliant EVIL success.

No absurdity is so palpable but that it may be firmly planted in the human head if you only begin to inculcate it before age five, by constantly repeating it with an air of great solemnity. - Arthur Schopenhauer

innieway  posted on  2006-12-01   13:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluedogtxn (#2)

We've neutralized or destabilized EVERY SINGLE ONE of Israel's potential enemies with the exception of Egypt.

I’m not sure the Iraq war isn’t over and Iran is the winner. Bush and his neoclowns have done what has been thought impossible for centuries; Iran and Iraq are about to become Shiite Muslim super state, complete with a leader who either has or will have nukes. Once our cut and run is complete, watch the puppet states of Pakistan and Afghanistan to collapse, join this union, with Pakistan bringing their nukes to the party. Time will tell.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-01   14:59:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

Once our cut and run is complete, watch the puppet states of Pakistan and Afghanistan to collapse, join this union, with Pakistan bringing their nukes to the party. Time will tell.

I don't see Pakistan joining any state governed from Tehran. There's a lot of bad old blood there. I don't see the Afghans joining with anyone.

What you suggest is possible, and certainly the pressure will exist for them to form an alliance, if for no better reason than to protect themselves from the US, but a muslim super-state?

I don't think so. Besides, the Russkies would never allow it.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-12-01   15:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

If anything, Pakistan's nukes could go to the Sunni, ie Saudis, who bankrolled them anyway, as a counterweight to Iran.

No love lost between Iran and the Pakistani Talibs.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-12-01   15:04:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Brian S, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Diana, All (#0)

I love this issue!

At last, Americans get to see the Bush Cabal psyops exemplified and choked down their ever-loving and ignorant throats. (And, who the players are.)


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-12-01   15:06:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluedogtxn, Brian S, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Diana, All (#2)

Brilliantly successful.

I seriously doubt it. This more probably operates as a new mandate to destroy Israel.

We'll see.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-12-01   15:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: swarthyguy (#7)

Yep, that's another possible twist. Netanyahu has been foaming at the mouth lately so that's a good indicator things in Iraq didn't go well.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-01   15:15:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: bluedogtxn (#6)

I don't see Pakistan joining any state governed from Tehran. There's a lot of bad old blood there. I don't see the Afghans joining with anyone.

Not as currently constructed. Both governments are vulnerable and once we flee the region both Karzai & Musharraf will be unemployed, or dead. It's a crap shoot as to where they'll align.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-12-01   15:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

It's a veritable devil's stew.

Eastern Aghanistan is Shia, under Ismail Khan, just a beck and call away from Teheran in Herat.

Pakistan's Musharraf is safe. He's a Machiavellian master, who can turn on and turn off the Sunni jihadis at his will. Anticipations of his demise, numerous for the past five years, don't take his army into account.

The Pakistani Balochi rebellion has been put down hard, and Pakistani Shias have been cowed by virulent Sunni groups unleashed upon them by Pakistan's Army.

swarthyguy  posted on  2006-12-01   16:25:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#0)

The baby boomer elite arrogantly and ignorantly led us into a quagmire, as their fathers did in Vietnam – and now, just like their fathers, they lack the stamina, courage and perseverance to see it through.

Stamina, courage and perseverance to see it through? It required absolutely no stamina, courage, or perseverance for the architects and planners and analysts and generals who got the US into Vietnam. None at all. Stamina and courage and perseverance is what the troops in the field needed and may or may not have had. But it takes no courage or stamina to start a war and then wage it behind a desk. And they had plenty of patience (not perseverance) while dicking around for a decade plus in Vietnam- tinkering with this or that new "plan" for the war- while thousands of Americans died (actually I would say murdered by their government- the ones drafted into military slavery and then sent to die in their Ivy league bullshit wars for DC's glory and power) and hundreds of thousand of Vietnamese were butchered.

Pat- Lyndon Johnson and then Nixon swigged whiskey starting at noon and were half in the bag by 5PM every day of their Presidencies. They ran a war half in the bag. Their dope followers and planners and academic think tankers who called for that war put in what? 3 hour days at the office before the cocktail hour?

I love how we, not just Pat, ascribe these words of action and heroics to the acts and policies of political leaders as if they required real courage to carry them out. No courage is needed to start an elective war. No stamina is needed on the part of the politician to sit on his ass stubbornly while it is being waged. And they don't need perseverance either. They merely need an ego- and that is one thing all politicians have in spades.

It is bad enough we have these monsterous centralized enormously powerful governments- lets not give the men at the helm godlike status by describing the wielding of their power as somehow brave or courageous. It isn't.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-12-01   16:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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