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Title: Hostile Takeover of Scholars for 9/11 Truth
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george washington
URL Source: http://www.georgewashington.blogspot.com
Published: Dec 2, 2006
Author: george washington
Post Date: 2006-12-02 23:09:29 by Horse
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Views: 226
Comments: 21
Without naming names at this point, people hostile to rationality and the scientific method are close to completely taking over Scholars for 9/11 Truth. Such people claim that "space beams" destroyed the World Trade Center, that no planes hit the Twin Towers, and that the Twin Towers fell faster than free-fall speed. None of the scientists in the Scholars' group buy these theories. These people throw out false arguments and then -- when caught in an untruth -- start calling anyone who raises contrary facts names and attempts to bully them into submission. They used the Karl Rove "slime and defend" tactics. Even though all of the group's scientists disclaim these claims, the Rovians shout them from the rooftops on websites and radio broadcasts and every other soapbox they can find. One of the Twin Cities largest papers is covering the story, and Jeff Wells of Rigourous Intuition says "scholars for 9/11 Truth [are] tearing one another new impact holes over speculation on space-based beam weaponry." Will cloudy thinkers and disinformation agents win? Or will rationality prevail? Even though the Scholars' group includes stellar scientists, and heroes like Bob Bowman, David Ray Griffin, and many others, everyone will need to ignore the group if the hostile takeover is completed. If the ship sinks, the good people will find better homes, because you cannot keep good men (or women) down.
Poster Comment: The problem with equality is that any moron with an Internet connection thinks he is the equal of David Ray Griffin.
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
thanks for keeping us informed Horse. it's heart-breaking for us all to see the black-ops act. that's why I keep pressing the bible stuff. because at least in that story- book there is a good ending. It is a time for building faith. because we ain't gonna get it any other way. at least during the last few years we were able to see and to understand.
Psalm 137:1 By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
Yeah, but that last book gets pretty nasty, and then there's the guessing when it's all going to end. I'm kinda partial to the old testament stuff, with the angry God and the smiting and casting out and flooding the planet to kill off all the alien/human hybrids. Talk about your hard-core stuff. Kinda brutal, but you always knew where you stood.
"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."
When people rely on others to think for them, they are susceptible to this CIA disinfo crap. The Scholars for 9/11 truth could possibly be a CIA disinfo organization itself. However the fundamental truths of science combined with easily accessible and verifiable facts about 9/11 prove without a doubt that elements of our government planned and pulled off 9/11. No organization with members that have PhDs after their names are needed.
God is always good! I've been in a dialogue with Fetzer - I don't see him locked into the ray gun theory. I'm supposed to be a guest on his radio show, this Tuesday. I trust I'm not walking into an ambush.
I've been following this for almost two weeks. Fetzer, Woods and Reynolds are the driving force behind these absolutely ridiculous "theories". Jones, Ryan, Ross, Hoffman, King have the most solid papers, science and research. I've always been leery of Fetzer. I've watched him tank more interviews on cable tv than I would care to mentioned. I could easily do a better job. I'm sure there will be a breakaway group of real scientists from these loonytunes. Once these people leave, watch how many of these types like Fetzer & Co. get on cable or are interviewed with their talk of spacebeams, missles, pods, mini nukes, no planes hit the towers/blue screen holograms bullshit. Fetzer has been kicked off RBN. Thank God. Sky, where is he now broadcasting?
Mark The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent "At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net
I smelled this coming for quite some time. I wonder if the rockets in the elevator shaft theory has gained any ground? LOL
"It is the old practice of despots to use a part of the people to keep the rest in order; and those who have once got an ascendency and possessed themselves of all the resources of the nation, their revenues and offices, have immense means for retaining their advantages." Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1798
I hope Fetzer is simply demonstrating an open mind, a willingness to inspect all evidence without forming conclusions until satisfied that it's solid. Alex Jones has maintained a disciplined approach in order to avoid having the entire movement ignored because one element is discovered to be false. There's plenty of evidence to support the "inside job" analysis. It would be wise to remain adamant in pursuit of answers to proveable issues rather than reaching for new and far fetched ones. [Side Note:] The day the space shuttle exploded upon re-entry over Texas, I was able to watch taped recordings of it only a couple of times. Each time it appeared to me that there were 2 laser beams present. Did anyone else think they saw this effect ?
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry
Yeah, I remember that bullshit also. You called Valis on that, he got mad, and left with his ass.
Mark The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent "At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net
I agree. There is plenty of solid evidence of people, paper trail and some physical evidence that hasn't been carted away. I never saw any footage of the breakup. What would be gained by destroying the shuttle? I never really have thought about it.
Mark The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent "At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net
It appears that GCN picked Fetzer up. Kevin Barrett was on RBN yesterday, but he's supposedly doing a couple of days a week at GCN too, on days when Fetzer's off in the same time slot. Barrett kicked Kaminski off the air a couple of weeks ago for "anti-semetic" behavior. I was listening to the program and Kaminski was having dialogue without being argumentative or interrupting Barrett's responses. Avoidance of discussion will insure the problem isn't resolved.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry
I don't think this is the same footage that I saw on TV that day.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry
I know what I saw, as I had purposely come home from the field after hearing about it on the radio in order to see the earliest images available. They showed it a couple of times and it appeared to me that it was struck by laser beams coming at it from below. I can't explain why anyone would destroy it.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry
When I saw the space shuttle destroyed on TV, there was a big bolt of what looked like energized plasma hitting it. Kind of like a strange lightning bolt. Oddly enough, just this last year or so, the Discovery Channel did a thing on weather, and one of the big things they talked about, was this superlightning, that goes clear into space. Is that what brought down the space shuttle? More than likely. I do not believe for one minute the theory that the re-entry tiles can be damaged so easily. If space lightning did it, then simply say so. People will believe the truth if they are confronted with it in a manner they understand. This is why the whole 9-11 Conspiracy is a dead movement. Kind of like how we know that Pearl Harbor was a set up. Kind of like we know Both Kennedy Assassinations, and the MLK assassination were all carried out by the same netherworldly cabal.
#2. To: Red Jones (#1)
that's why I keep pressing the bible stuff. because at least in that story- book there is a good ending.
#3. To: Horse (#0)
Hostile Takeover of Scholars for 9/11 Truth
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#4. To: Horse (#0)
#5. To: Horse, all, skydrifter, robin, christine, *9-11* (#0)
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#6. To: Kamala (#5)
#7. To: SKYDRIFTER, All (#4)
#8. To: BTP Holdings (#6)
#9. To: noone222 (#7)
#10. To: Kamala (#5)
#11. To: noone222 (#7)
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Just as there is no money in peace or freedom, there is also no money in a healthy Amerika - - IndieTX
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#13. To: Kamala (#9)
I never saw any footage of the breakup. What would be gained by destroying the shuttle?
#14. To: Horse (#0)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#15. To: noone222, Kamala (#7)
If it is any help, I talked with Col. Donn de Grand Pre right after the shuttle was destroyed. I mentioned the possibility it was shot down and he agreed. The technology is there and the weapons exist. As for a reason? Recall the Israeli astronaut. We now have a Yiddish martyr. There is a reason which I choose and that is to keep the shuttle program from becoming bigger than it is. Space based weapons are the next frontier and without a viable shuttle program the U.S. is sucking hind teat on being able to get replacement satellites into orbit. Also, a space based defense of missile attack is one which would trump every other attack or defense system with ICBMs. With the neocrazies plans for endless war, that would be the only system to have in place. I would much rather see the absolute destruction of missile programs. Too much technology is not a good thing. And the Jewish Hell Bomb is the ultimate terror weapon.
The day the space shuttle exploded upon re-entry over Texas, I was able to watch taped recordings of it only a couple of times. Each time it appeared to me that there were 2 laser beams present. Did anyone else think they saw this effect ?
"It is the old practice of despots to use a part of the people to keep the rest in order; and those who have once got an ascendency and possessed themselves of all the resources of the nation, their revenues and offices, have immense means for retaining their advantages." Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 1798
#16. To: Kamala, Arator (#5)
Did you feel that way when we saw him in LA? Fetzer and Barrett have a show on GCN now. I heard the show when John Stadtmiller got upset with Fetzer for expressing that he was basically a clintonista.
I've always been leery of Fetzer.
#17. To: SKYDRIFTER (#4)
let us know so we can listen.
#18. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#14)
and this will continue until and unless the people en masse rise up against them...V for Vendetta style.
This is why the whole 9-11 Conspiracy is a dead movement. Kind of like how we know that Pearl Harbor was a set up. Kind of like we know Both Kennedy Assassinations, and the MLK assassination were all carried out by the same netherworldly cabal.
#19. To: christine (#18)
remember, remember, the 11th of September
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#20. To: christine (#16)
He said all the right things in LA, but I had read about some of his past "theories" on JFK. Even hard core JFK researchers backed away from some of the claims by Fetzer. He was discredited by many. During the summer, he took a couple beatings on Faux. It looked set up. I think I even posted about this over the summer stating that if Fetzer or anyone else was going to go on interviews, please practice and stick to certain taliking points. Don't fall into the trap of being framed or led in the interview.
Mark
The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred.— Robert Wright - Former FBI agent
"At temperatures above 800º C structural steel loses 90 percent of its strength. Yet even when steel structures are heated to those temperatures, they never disintegrate into piles of rubble, as did the Twin Towers and Building 7."-http://www.911research.net
#21. To: Kamala (#5)
I missed the mess - whatever it was. As far as I know, I'm on good terms with Fetzer. I blasted the ray-gun theory, generically. Maybe I'm going to have to explain myself on his program. He already knows what's on my mind. We'll see. I don't know which show it is.
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