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Title: 666 'appears' to be here to stay
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Published: Dec 4, 2006
Author: Brother Gregory
Post Date: 2006-12-04 10:46:24 by richard9151
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There is a world wide effort to identify every man woman and child on the earth. I don't really have a problem with someone who wants to know who I am. But is that really the purpose behind the effort to identify everyone? Or is it an attempt to identify the STATUS of everyone "in the world" and everyone "of the world"? Is there a difference? And if so then what is the final purpose of all this? Jesus talked a great deal about being "in the world" but not "of the world". The many words translated into "world" from the original Greek text are easily defined and Jesus was not talking about the planet in these verses but something very specific. My kingdom is not of this world http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/world.HTM They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. John 17:16. The word 'world' in these quotes meant "the constitutional order or system of government" and was from a Greek word 'komizo' meaning 'to take care of, provide for'. The Israelites went into bondage to the Pharaoh because they could not care for themselves. Most nations go deeper into bondage under the governments they create because they become increasingly dependent upon such governments and their offered benefits. As "citizens entitled" they become "subject citizens". What this means is that people of the world are little more than what Peter calls merchandise, local governments call human resources, or as the GAO calls them "Human Capital". http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d041063sp.pdf Are they numbering their property? Is this a new question? "Are people the property of the state, or are they free souls under God? This battle continues throughout the world today." Cecil B. DeMille, "The Ten Commandments". Once we understand the context of Christ's statements we can look into the identification of Jesus disciples with the name of the Father rather than the name of another father on earth. Of course Jesus is not talking about your natural Fathers. "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept..."John 17:12 Call no man on earth Father http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/fatherabba.html Once we understand the mystery surrounding the use of terms like 'world', 'Father', and 'name', we can move on to answer more practical questions as to what can we do about this trend today of greater dependence upon a government as a benefactor who exercises authority. That is an issue we are dealing with here at His Church on a daily basis. People are seeking answers and to find those answers we need to do some studying and make an effort to move forward with what we have already learned in the hope and expectation of learning more. One such person is David Alan Carmichael. He recently sent this message to me: The Idaho Supreme Court refused to review an Idaho Court of Appeals ruling that Section 666 of the Federal Social Security Code (42 USC §666) preempts Idaho's Free Exercise of Religion Act (FERA). Section 666 'appears' to mandate that every State force everyone to identify with a SSN in order to obtain a professional, occupational, recreational, driver's or marriage license. The Appellant, Larry Lewis, his associate David Alan Carmichael, and their lawyer Dr. Herbert W. Titus, all intend to do something about it. Some people, like Larry Lewis in Idaho, are prohibited from identifying with a national identification number on the basis of their religion. Revelation, Chapter 13, of the Bible warns of a beast that requires every person to identify with a number in order to engage in livelihood. Full text of article with html links is found http://www.christianliberty.org/art/religiouslaw-666.html I and David Justice will be meeting with Dr. Herbert W. Titus and others in McLean, Virginia on the 12th and 13th of December. We will be explaining where and what we believe Christ desires us to be going and doing to implement His redemption in the lives of those seeking His Kingdom and His righteousness. If you would like to meet with us while we are there get in touch with me this week. There are many changes coming in the future but since history repeats itself there is a way to prepare for the future by doing what is right now before us. Over a decade ago we were writing articles about the laws being past by the United States Congress that eventually were codified in title 42 Section 666. http://www.hisholychurch.net/news/article/issue9w.htm Is that social security number the biblical mark of the beast? This question can be debated endlessly. Perhaps more important is the truth that the Mark of God and the Mark of the Beast, both mentioned in the Bible, first have a spiritual reality that we should learn to understand. Every aspect of our lives is being tied to that number and membership in this scheme of social security offered to the people by government. That system is remarkably similar to the system of Corban offered by the Pharisees in they days of Christ's ministry. Jesus said that system 'made the word of God to none effect'. Mark 7:7-9 There is no law requiring you to obtain that number but there are more and more laws saying you may not participate in any regulated activity unless you choose to obtain that number. Can we get a democracy, deeply in debt, morally bankrupt, and controlled by an untouchable elite, to relent in this demand? Is there another way to go, to live, to be? Is this other way more like the way of Christ practiced by the early Christians? Since this was almost the identical situation in Judea and the Roman Empire centuries ago, we must ask, "Did Christ have a plan?" We had already written the book "The Covenants of the gods" which outlined the purpose behind such bills and laws in relationship to governments, both past and present, with constant references to Biblical texts in their historical context. [The Covenants of the gods located in html on the net] http://www.hisholychurch.net/study/gods/writings.htm While this book explained, in 15 independent chapters, why and how the machination of modern and ancient governments could be used to legally suppress the people, it did not explain what the solution or remedy was to overcome such legal bondage. In the book Thy Kingdom Comes we reveal the difference between what Abraham, Moses and Jesus were doing and teaching to free and redeem the people and what we have been taught and told to do by ministers today. The state of the Church today has been most instrumental in the deliverance of people into the very bondage that Abraham, Moses and Jesus came to deliver us from. Their true mission was to redeem and emancipate the people from authoritarian benefactors under the perfect law of liberty. In fact Abraham, Moses and Jesus pointed to the very solution we need to know, understand and implement in our lives today. [Thy Kingdom Comes located in html on the net] http://www.hisholychurch.net/thykingdom/tkca.html We have since the publication of those books written another work in progress. The His Church Formation Report, which explains how that plan of God may be implemented today for those who are seeking to be free souls under God according to His righteousness, is available. His Church Formation Reports [since this is a work in progress all the links are not yet in place for the general public but a considerable amount of working material is available to began the essential activities conducive to liberty under God] http://www.hisholychurch.net/pdfiles/His-Church/ The His Church Formation Report is a working copy but it will be refined into two books. The first book will deal exclusively with the basics of what a church can do now to repeat the activities of the early Church that steadily made it possible for Christians to survive the decline and fall of the Roman empire as it imposed its own autocratic authority upon the people in an attempt to form and maintain a world government. The second book will be a reference appendix that has already exceeded the size of the original book and is not yet available on the net to the general public by us, although the information is out there. While much of this appendix is based on US laws there is an overwhelming similarity in the laws of countries all around the world, a consistency that can only be a part of a plan. We have shared much of this material with our working ministers and functioning congregations and will be releasing it as we finish this work. There is much to do and there are those already doing and seeking the kingdom of God and that righteousness that is His. Peace on your house Gregory@hisholychurch.net Join the Kingdom News List http://www.hisholychurch.net/subscribe.html Forums and groups http://www.hisholychurch.net/forum/index.html Keys of the Kingdom Radio shows. http://www.hisholychurch.net/radio.asp
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#1. To: richard9151, David Alan Carmichael, Neil McIver, noone222 (#0)
He recently sent this message to me: The Idaho Supreme Court refused to review an Idaho Court of Appeals ruling that Section 666 of the Federal Social Security Code (42 USC §666) preempts Idaho's Free Exercise of Religion Act (FERA). Section 666 'appears' to mandate that every State force everyone to identify with a SSN in order to obtain a professional, occupational, recreational, driver's or marriage license. The Appellant, Larry Lewis, his associate David Alan Carmichael, and their lawyer Dr. Herbert W. Titus, all intend to do something about it. Some people, like Larry Lewis in Idaho, are prohibited from identifying with a national identification number on the basis of their religion. Revelation, Chapter 13, of the Bible warns of a beast that requires every person to identify with a number in order to engage in livelihood. But it's for the children ping! These Scriptures were written long before the technology that makes them possible. Recently an Orthodox Jewish group were granted a semi-private beach "walk" in CA for religious reasons. In CA, the beach is public property by law. I wonder if and for how long religious grounds will "work" against the system that requires we all have a #.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." I don't think God is going to get too upset if you get the number of the beast in order to survive. I think it's metaphorical, and that you shouldn't view Satan as your master in heaven. Money is a material thing. It's of the earth, and in order to be able to live on this earth, the powers that be want to make sure you stay a slave to their materialism. When you die, you can't take that material wealth with you, and the lust for that material wealth can be your master. I don't think taking the number of the beast will be 666. It will be something like having a credit card, or an implanted chip. When that day comes, I seriously doubt that it will change things for the poor, as they will always have barter to work with.
One such person is David Alan Carmichael.
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#2. To: richard9151 (#0)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
#3. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)
What you are saying, Tommy, is that you can be a little bit pregnant. I know a lot of people who do just fine without a Social Security number.... like myself. Have not used one in more than 20 years. Money is a storage device; paper is not. You use money, in its real sense, as a barter item in bartering your stored time for other items. If you study what Brother Gregory has put together in this post, the only conclusion is that Social Security is the numbering system of the beast. Please, tell me something else that the people in more than 170 nations use together? Oh, and then explain to me how the Axis of Evil nations, named as such by Bushie, are the only nations that do not belong to Social Security? And, explain to me how it is, as is noted in this post, the REMARKABLE simularity of ALL national laws around the globe? IN EVERY NATION ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH? Including in China and Russia. How is that, Tommy?
Money is a material thing.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#4. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#2)
The truth is ... it may not make any difference what you think, what I think or what humanity at large "thinks" ... our thought processes amount to rationalization biased by our intellects and orientations ... Considering how much slavery is tied to the SSN ... even if you're assessment about 666 is right, the SSN is so destructive to our society it should be resisted at all costs anyways.
I don't think taking the number of the beast will be 666.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#5. To: robin (#1)
Most people that I've known that object to the SSN because of the Scriptural admonition against taking the Mark of the Beast have only a superficial understanding of money (which the love of is the root of ALL evil), and wish to enjoy the benefits of the world's system without suffering the reciprocal duties demanded by the world's system. Social Security is a blatant reliance upon the god of government, an agreement with the god of government; said agreement demonstrating a reliance upon a man made material god or certain benefits promised by or through government, rather than the Creator. In this governmental system of implied contracts and implicit trust arrangements, the average person is at a complete loss to perceive their enslavement, and their "allegiance" to the State god. People attempting to resist taking the Mark by refusing the SSN still want to have "licenses" collect interest on their savings, arrange credit, and basically enjoy the benefits of a commercial world that absolutely violate the same Scriptures they want to use to abstain, while proclaiming their right to "NOT BE OF THIS WORLD" ... and this is hypocrisy. In repsonse to your question about how long religious grounds will "work" against the system that requires we all have the # ... the answer is it won't until we all decide to refuse it, but as long as the vast majority accept it the small minority that doesn't accept it will remain irrelevant. In my opinion, it's more of a personal determination that individuals must acquire based upon strong beliefs that are founded upon research, that ultimately causes one to disregard the threatened consequences of government agents and officials because they trust the Creator more than uncle Sambo, not for the sake of the money itself. And while a person may be attacked, locked up and robbed for his/her beliefs they may at least know that they weren't a hypocrit funding the murders of countless millions or a recipient of the Mark and its accompanying wrath of God. When a zillion Christians obtain the SSN and continue to use it, the few that refuse appear to be in error, crazy or just tax evaders.
I wonder if and for how long religious grounds will "work" against the system that requires we all have a #.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#6. To: noone222 (#5)
valid points So few are willing to pay the price for real freedom now, but in time, they (or at least their children and grandchildren) will regret that decision.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#7. To: robin (#6)
It's fairly easy to see that those afraid to stand up for their beliefs today when the thugs aren't going door to door yet ... will find plenty of excuses when they eventually are confronted, with a machine gun and a ski-mask wearing military type.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#8. To: noone222 (#7)
I know this sounds weak, but I'd just as soon emigrate to a place of less interest to the ZioNazis.
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."
---Henry Kissinger, New York Times, October 28, 1973
#9. To: robin (#8) (Edited)
Most places on this planet have a SSN or similar indentifier. Almost all Industrialized Nations are actually tied into the same International System. [Operated through a huge monolithic computer system in Brussels known as ... "The Beast" ... funny ain't it ??? [Some claim this is cyber-rumor]. New Testament Christians that attend 501(c)(3) [State] Churches are informed that they are immune to everything, saved by grace, etc., or gonna be raptured at the last second by the same God that says He's no respector of persons, yet He didn't rapture the 1st Century Christians that were fed to Lions by the millions. I guess we'll see.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#10. To: richard9151 (#3)
How do you go about doing that?? And how has it effected your daily life? I know a lot of people who do just fine without a Social Security number.... like myself. Have not used one in more than 20 years.
C.H.
#11. To: ChareltonHest (#10)
the system has made it where it's damn near impossible to earn a decent living without a number. i know several people who don't have one and every one of them is struggling financially and in other ways. it takes a lot of courage and personal sacrifice to live like that.
And how has it effected your daily life?
#12. To: richard9151 (#0)
I know someone who has "given up" their SS number. They have written the SS office requesting that it be removed from association with their name. The SS office will NOT acknowledge it in written form.
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
#13. To: robin (#8)
I did.
but I'd just as soon emigrate
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#14. To: noone222 (#9) (Edited)
Here's what I think about the "rapture:" Any Christian who thinks they are going to be saved from the suffering of Tribulation [which is NOT 7 years or 3 1/2 or whatever...that is also a false doctrine from the book of Daniel and a totally convuluted interpretation of that verse] is in for a helluva surprise.
Churches are informed that they are immune to everything, saved by grace, etc., or gonna be raptured at the last second
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
Just as there is no money in peace or freedom, there is also no money in a healthy Amerika - - IndieTX
#15. To: noone222, TommyTheMadArtist, robin, christine, all (#5)
Outstanding. Absolutely true! Most of the problems that I have run across in this life have come from apostate Christians, who fear exposure of their own apostasy more than anything else! And that fear of exposure is TO THEMSELVES and not to the world.
Most people that I've known that object to the SSN because of the Scriptural admonition against taking the Mark of the Beast have only a superficial understanding of money (which the love of is the root of ALL evil), and wish to enjoy the benefits of the world's system without suffering the reciprocal duties demanded by the world's system.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#16. To: IndieTX (#14)
Outstanding! Absolutely True! After all, God is Perfect, and Perfectly Consistent! He does not change....... so, what part of the Bible do we have to compare to the so-called Rapture!? Why, the flood! And did the good guys get to go safely away, saved by God, or, were they given the tools to SAVE THEMSELVES? Ummmmmmmm, maybe I need to think about this for a while......
Any Christian who thinks they are going to be saved
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#17. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#12)
Why would they? They own the number, it is their property, and it can not be reused. Therefore, why worry (on thier part)? The only answer to this is to QUIT USING IT! And they KNOW that most people who complain about the number simply give up, and in a few years, are right back in the system, complaints and all. They have infinate patience; we have little faith in God.
will NOT acknowledge it in written form.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#18. To: ChareltonHest, christine, all (#10)
It made me accept personel responsibility for my life, and, it made me free. Now, understand, Christine is correct as well. It is not easy, esp. in the beginning, and the major problem is apostate Christians more than anything else. They are the ones who will not accept that it is possible to be unlicsened and uninsured; or, for that matter, untaxed! And, IT CAN NOT BE DONE IF YOU LIVE IN A CITY. Of course, my personel opinion of anyone that stays in a city with what is going on in this nation is that they are very, very foolish. Actually, stupid would be a better word. In many ways, after what I have learned, the paper/post, Leaderless Resistance, is probably the best explanation of what I have done in my life than anything else I have ever read. I will be doing an update on that post, based largely on what I have learned and how I live/have lived sometime soon.
And how has it effected your daily life?
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#19. To: richard9151 (#17)
This "faith" was the essential ingredient in my decision to pull out. I decided to trust the Creator of the Universe instead of the god of this world. It's really that simple.
we have little faith in God.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#20. To: noone222 (#19)
For me as well. And what you said here is THE ANSWER; It's really that simple.
This "faith" was the essential ingredient in my decision to pull out. I
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#21. To: richard9151 (#20)
Which is worse? To discover the nature of the number and how it is the mechanism to manifest worship of mammon, then confess it as something you must abstain from, and then go back to using it???? It would have been better to remain ignorant. I pray that I have the faith to always believe God rather than mammon for my survival. So far, the cost has been too great to go back. The rewards have been even greater. We have to experience the miraculous intervention of the living God for our daily survival or we die. So far..., we live. "Without faith, it is impossible to please Him..." "And they overcame.... loving not their lives even unto....."
Why would they? They own the number, it is their property, and it can not be reused. Therefore, why worry (on thier part)? The only answer to this is to QUIT USING IT! And they KNOW that most people who complain about the number simply give up, and in a few years, are right back in the system, complaints and all. They have infinate patience; we have little faith in God.
#22. To: richard9151 (#18)
most don't have the resources to move to the country or have familial commitments and dependents which preclude them from leaving their cities/suburbs. it's much more doable if you're single or married without children and pets.
Of course, my personel opinion of anyone that stays in a city with what is going on in this nation is that they are very, very foolish. Actually, stupid would be a better word.
#23. To: christine (#22)
I agree with this assessment. I have friends that have kids and remain in the system for that reason. When we talk, I assure them that an opportunity will avail itself to them at some point, and not to be discouraged. God is the most powerful force of the Universe and we sometimes forget or don't see that we are provided for every second of the day. I'd highly recommend that people get out of metropolitan environments, they're dangerous, unpredictable (drive by shootings etc.,), and a large segment of that society are completely detached from normalcy (weirdos, illegals, fags, satanists, drug addicts, murderers,) etc. ... and it all actually seems so normal until some unexpected and unnecessary event proves otherwise.
most don't have the resources to move to the country or have familial commitments and dependents which preclude them from leaving their cities/suburbs.
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined."
Patrick Henry
#24. To: David Alan Carmichael (#21)
Ah, my friend, you are correct.... BUT! That is not how God works, as you obviously well know. Every man and woman WILL know the truth at some point; that is guareenteed, BECAUSE they must make the willing choice. It is not my rules; I simply must live by them.
It would have been better to remain ignorant.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
#25. To: noone222, christine, all (#23)
Nonsense and balderdash, say I. Most all of those people HAVE HAD their opportunity, and willingly passed it by. There was just a tremendous run-up in real estate prices, and instead of cashing out, which many, many, many could have done, such people went further into debt to buy new cars, pay off debts, increasing their tax deductions, and etc. etc. etc. etc. adnauseum. MOST people could have cashed out, anywhere near the top of the RECENT run-up in prices and paid cash for a house in mid-America, where there are, litterally, thousands and thousands of empty, cheap houses. I have seen houses in Kansas for less than $20,000. The same exists in EVERY farm state, northern Minn., and much of the south as well. Are these perfect houses? Nope. But they are livable, and given a little time, could be fixed up quite nicely. And as to living.... what does it cost to live when you can grow your own food, and do not have to pay rent/house payment? You see, these are the choices, and people will not make them until they are forced to do so. What will force them? Economic collaspe? When they no longer have any options? And another thing. All of those WONDERFUL, filthy cities, now have bypass freeways going all around them. Great for driving (although they do not seem to get that much use in most cases) , and excellent as a means of sealing off a city and controlling all food in and all people out. Oh, ever hear of Pol Pot? The plan that he used, in clearing out the cities in Cambodia (remember the Killing Fields?), was devised by a think tank in Washington, DC. Just in case you think that those in DC do not know what is coming.
most don't have the resources to move to the country or have familial commitments and dependents which preclude them from leaving their cities/suburbs.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
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