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Title: Westminster man told to stop running tax scheme
Source: Baltimore Sun
URL Source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo ... story?coll=bal-local-headlines
Published: Dec 4, 2006
Author: AP
Post Date: 2006-12-04 18:32:27 by Starwind
Ping List: *unUsual Suspects*     Subscribe to *unUsual Suspects*
Keywords: Kotmair, Save-A-Patriot Fellowship
Views: 4167
Comments: 200

A Westminster man has been barred by a federal judge from running a scheme in which he promised to help members avoid paying federal taxes, the U.S. Department of Justice announced today.

The "Save-A-Patriot Fellowship" run by John Baptist Kotmair Jr. falsely advised that clients didn't have to pay taxes and could legally withdraw from the Social Security system, U.S. District Judge William Nickerson said in his ruling. Despite legal action by the U.S. Justice Department, Kotmair's organization continued to file frivolous protest letters with the Internal Revenue Service on behalf of more than 800 clients and showed "no inclination ... to cease their activities," Nickerson noted.

Nickerson's order, issued last week, permanently bars Kotmair and his organization from representing or assisting anyone in corresponding with the IRS, or preparing court filings relating to income taxes. Kotmair and his organization must also notify all individuals involved in the scheme of the injunction and provide the Justice Department with the names of the customers, their e-mail addresses and telephone and Social Security numbers.

The injunction also must be posted prominently on the organization's Web sites for a year, and fraudulent promotional materials must be removed from the sites.


Poster Comment:

Kotmair's defense and taxation arguments were inane to put it charitably. His website (where he's to post the injunction) is at http://save-a-patriot.org/

Stupid tax-protestors and their schemes just muddy the water for legitimate tax-protest arguments. Kotmair, Schiff, Schultz, Rose all will become boilerplate examples of tax schemes which will be used unfairly to broad-brush and defeat otherwise legitimate arguments, rasing the cost and complexity to properly take on the IRS.

I cite Joe Banister as an example of how to do it right, intelligently, and the above tax schemes just make it difficult if not impossible for people like Banister to prevail honestly on the merits. Subscribe to *unUsual Suspects*

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#3. To: Starwind (#0)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-12-04   18:57:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

Its a grey area. Organizations can setup alternate retirement plans in which one can enroll instead of social security, but the contribution to the alternate plan is still mandatory for all practical purposes, and one is still "in" the social security system, just not contributing to it for the duration of that particular employment (having the optional retirement plan).

Some arguments have been proposed (and rejected as I recall) for individuals essentially seeking to "self-insure" on a similar basis as an alternate retirement plan, but because the plans must be federally approved, the requirements mandate more than just one individual squirreling away his own savings.

The fool-proof way is to relinquish US citizenship and residency and move to some other country (tax haven), and start over. But upon doing that, there are no easy, approved ways to transfer untaxed earnings or assets out of the US to said tax haven. One must "start over" for all practical purposes.

In short there are no legal ways I know of to be a US citizen with US-based assets and income and not pay taxes, and if an individual, not pay some kind of "retirement" setaside (pay-roll tax).

But just because I don't know of one, doesn't mean it might not exist. Hence the reason I investigate what I learn about, and my opinion that what I've seen to date is illegal, some of it wildly illegal.

Starwind  posted on  2006-12-04 19:31:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

1st ... can one be expected to subject their children to a lifetime of feudal serfdom in an allegedly free country ? I say no, but that's exactly what we do when we sign them up at the hospital. The IRS readily admits that they cannot collect the income tax from people without SSN's ... and one must ask why ? It's because you haven't accepted the "promised" benefits of SSN (retirement/medical) nor have you volunteered into their "INSURANCE" program.

You asked if one could "bail out" of SS. I have, and I have a SS-521 form that is Stamped by the SS Administration, Dated, and signed by the SS Administrator that states I have no record with the SS Administration even though I had received a SSN as a child.

I formally expatriated from the Federal Government, and made numerous Constructive Notices to all federal agancies concerned with my withdrawal from SS. I rescinded, canceled, terminated and removed all signatures on all documentation that bound me contractually with any legal fiction such as government entities, banks, and other corporations. These entities were all properly noticed as well. I placed Notices in Newspapers for the appropriate amount of time required for legal notice, on top of the written Constructive Notices sent to all State and Federal Agencies. I made it very certain and obvious that I wouldn't associate with murdering scum for the conveniences provided by them. I also forfeited the many years of funds that I had "contributed". [They use this term (Contributions) so you know it's voluntary.

I do no business other than that which is private.

And even though I have this documentation I don't trust the government. I loathe the U.S. government, and have done just fine without them for almost 20 years now. I did it for Biblical reasons, not the money. And even though I'm not a holy roller, there isn't anything more prohibited by scripture in my opinion than worshipping the State through its MARK.

Many people find it too difficult to cut the umbilical cord and for good reasons too. I just got to the point where I couldn't take anymore of their fraud, and made every attempt to state my position openly.

I think I have been protected by the true authority of this universe because I have operated in good faith for the right reasons. If it's just about the money ... you'll have a hard time sticking with it.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-04 20:33:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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