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Title: Westminster man told to stop running tax scheme
Source: Baltimore Sun
URL Source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo ... story?coll=bal-local-headlines
Published: Dec 4, 2006
Author: AP
Post Date: 2006-12-04 18:32:27 by Starwind
Ping List: *unUsual Suspects*     Subscribe to *unUsual Suspects*
Keywords: Kotmair, Save-A-Patriot Fellowship
Views: 3980
Comments: 200

A Westminster man has been barred by a federal judge from running a scheme in which he promised to help members avoid paying federal taxes, the U.S. Department of Justice announced today.

The "Save-A-Patriot Fellowship" run by John Baptist Kotmair Jr. falsely advised that clients didn't have to pay taxes and could legally withdraw from the Social Security system, U.S. District Judge William Nickerson said in his ruling. Despite legal action by the U.S. Justice Department, Kotmair's organization continued to file frivolous protest letters with the Internal Revenue Service on behalf of more than 800 clients and showed "no inclination ... to cease their activities," Nickerson noted.

Nickerson's order, issued last week, permanently bars Kotmair and his organization from representing or assisting anyone in corresponding with the IRS, or preparing court filings relating to income taxes. Kotmair and his organization must also notify all individuals involved in the scheme of the injunction and provide the Justice Department with the names of the customers, their e-mail addresses and telephone and Social Security numbers.

The injunction also must be posted prominently on the organization's Web sites for a year, and fraudulent promotional materials must be removed from the sites.


Poster Comment:

Kotmair's defense and taxation arguments were inane to put it charitably. His website (where he's to post the injunction) is at http://save-a-patriot.org/

Stupid tax-protestors and their schemes just muddy the water for legitimate tax-protest arguments. Kotmair, Schiff, Schultz, Rose all will become boilerplate examples of tax schemes which will be used unfairly to broad-brush and defeat otherwise legitimate arguments, rasing the cost and complexity to properly take on the IRS.

I cite Joe Banister as an example of how to do it right, intelligently, and the above tax schemes just make it difficult if not impossible for people like Banister to prevail honestly on the merits. Subscribe to *unUsual Suspects*

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#3. To: Starwind (#0)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-12-04   18:57:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

1st ... can one be expected to subject their children to a lifetime of feudal serfdom in an allegedly free country ? I say no, but that's exactly what we do when we sign them up at the hospital. The IRS readily admits that they cannot collect the income tax from people without SSN's ... and one must ask why ? It's because you haven't accepted the "promised" benefits of SSN (retirement/medical) nor have you volunteered into their "INSURANCE" program.

You asked if one could "bail out" of SS. I have, and I have a SS-521 form that is Stamped by the SS Administration, Dated, and signed by the SS Administrator that states I have no record with the SS Administration even though I had received a SSN as a child.

I formally expatriated from the Federal Government, and made numerous Constructive Notices to all federal agancies concerned with my withdrawal from SS. I rescinded, canceled, terminated and removed all signatures on all documentation that bound me contractually with any legal fiction such as government entities, banks, and other corporations. These entities were all properly noticed as well. I placed Notices in Newspapers for the appropriate amount of time required for legal notice, on top of the written Constructive Notices sent to all State and Federal Agencies. I made it very certain and obvious that I wouldn't associate with murdering scum for the conveniences provided by them. I also forfeited the many years of funds that I had "contributed". [They use this term (Contributions) so you know it's voluntary.

I do no business other than that which is private.

And even though I have this documentation I don't trust the government. I loathe the U.S. government, and have done just fine without them for almost 20 years now. I did it for Biblical reasons, not the money. And even though I'm not a holy roller, there isn't anything more prohibited by scripture in my opinion than worshipping the State through its MARK.

Many people find it too difficult to cut the umbilical cord and for good reasons too. I just got to the point where I couldn't take anymore of their fraud, and made every attempt to state my position openly.

I think I have been protected by the true authority of this universe because I have operated in good faith for the right reasons. If it's just about the money ... you'll have a hard time sticking with it.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-04   20:33:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#22)

Good rant, noone. How did you get the 521 form?

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-12-04   23:40:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: Neil McIver (#40)

How did you get the 521 form?

I printed it out off of the internet and filled it out. (I had already filed voluminous Notices etc., years before, but I wanted to be certain that I was out).

The form I filled out asked for my reasons to terminate SS. My reasons were (1) Deceptive Trade Practices, (2). Commercial Fraud, and (3). Mark of the Beast.

I submitted it to SS to be filed in my record ... but I didn't have a record anymore.

I did the Phil Marsh program and then some. Marsh was later attacked and they confiscated all of his computers etc., and I got a call from the U.S. Atty asking me to snitch Marsh off. The U.S. Atty told me how bad I'd been fucked by Marsh and that he'd get me some of my money back if I'd turn State's witness against Marsh.

I told that scumbag that even if Marsh was wrong, he was right as far as I was concerned, and it sounded to me like he was fishing. I hung up and never heard from him again.

Marsh ended up being convicted on one of 47 counts against him ... mail fraud. Nothing to do with taxes.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-04 23:56:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Neil McIver, noone222 (#40) (Edited)

How did you get the 521 form?

I've got one here myself. I have yet to fill it out and send it in. Waiting for the opportune moment I suppose.

BTW, I will send a copy of it to anyone who wants one. Send a PM and I will send my mailing address. All I ask for is a stamped, self-addressed #10 envelope to save me postage.

I got this copy simply by walking into the SS office and asking for one. The kind fellow at the counter went and got it for me from the back room.

Later, I had thought I lost it and figured I would go and get another. It was a totally different story this time around. When I asked for a 521 form, the woman at the counter went to the same back room and got one. She made a stop on the walk back up front and got her stupidvisor to come with her.

When they got up to the counter, the woman asked my what I wanted with this form (all the while clutching it tightly to her bosom). I told her (with about 20 sheeple sitting out in the lobby listening) I wanted it so I could opt out of the system. She said (still clutching the form tightly), "Sir, do you know what this form is?" I told her I sure did and let me have it since I wanted to get out of the system and did not want benefits. She refused outright, "You can't have this." I told her, "I know what I want so give that to me now." She refused again. I said aloud at the point, "Well, I guess we all know you've got something to hide from people." I turned and walked out and not a word was uttered from anyone who witnessed the exchange.

If I did something like this today with these rent-a-cops for homeland security sitting in every one of these joints they would have me under the gun as a t'rrist, no doubt about it. And I would tell them go ahead and shoot. Better to die on my feet than live on my knees. ;0)

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