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Title: Westminster man told to stop running tax scheme
Source: Baltimore Sun
URL Source: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/lo ... story?coll=bal-local-headlines
Published: Dec 4, 2006
Author: AP
Post Date: 2006-12-04 18:32:27 by Starwind
Ping List: *unUsual Suspects*     Subscribe to *unUsual Suspects*
Keywords: Kotmair, Save-A-Patriot Fellowship
Views: 3650
Comments: 200

A Westminster man has been barred by a federal judge from running a scheme in which he promised to help members avoid paying federal taxes, the U.S. Department of Justice announced today.

The "Save-A-Patriot Fellowship" run by John Baptist Kotmair Jr. falsely advised that clients didn't have to pay taxes and could legally withdraw from the Social Security system, U.S. District Judge William Nickerson said in his ruling. Despite legal action by the U.S. Justice Department, Kotmair's organization continued to file frivolous protest letters with the Internal Revenue Service on behalf of more than 800 clients and showed "no inclination ... to cease their activities," Nickerson noted.

Nickerson's order, issued last week, permanently bars Kotmair and his organization from representing or assisting anyone in corresponding with the IRS, or preparing court filings relating to income taxes. Kotmair and his organization must also notify all individuals involved in the scheme of the injunction and provide the Justice Department with the names of the customers, their e-mail addresses and telephone and Social Security numbers.

The injunction also must be posted prominently on the organization's Web sites for a year, and fraudulent promotional materials must be removed from the sites.


Poster Comment:

Kotmair's defense and taxation arguments were inane to put it charitably. His website (where he's to post the injunction) is at http://save-a-patriot.org/

Stupid tax-protestors and their schemes just muddy the water for legitimate tax-protest arguments. Kotmair, Schiff, Schultz, Rose all will become boilerplate examples of tax schemes which will be used unfairly to broad-brush and defeat otherwise legitimate arguments, rasing the cost and complexity to properly take on the IRS.

I cite Joe Banister as an example of how to do it right, intelligently, and the above tax schemes just make it difficult if not impossible for people like Banister to prevail honestly on the merits. Subscribe to *unUsual Suspects*

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#3. To: Starwind (#0)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-12-04   18:57:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)

Can one legally bail out of the Social Security program?

1st ... can one be expected to subject their children to a lifetime of feudal serfdom in an allegedly free country ? I say no, but that's exactly what we do when we sign them up at the hospital. The IRS readily admits that they cannot collect the income tax from people without SSN's ... and one must ask why ? It's because you haven't accepted the "promised" benefits of SSN (retirement/medical) nor have you volunteered into their "INSURANCE" program.

You asked if one could "bail out" of SS. I have, and I have a SS-521 form that is Stamped by the SS Administration, Dated, and signed by the SS Administrator that states I have no record with the SS Administration even though I had received a SSN as a child.

I formally expatriated from the Federal Government, and made numerous Constructive Notices to all federal agancies concerned with my withdrawal from SS. I rescinded, canceled, terminated and removed all signatures on all documentation that bound me contractually with any legal fiction such as government entities, banks, and other corporations. These entities were all properly noticed as well. I placed Notices in Newspapers for the appropriate amount of time required for legal notice, on top of the written Constructive Notices sent to all State and Federal Agencies. I made it very certain and obvious that I wouldn't associate with murdering scum for the conveniences provided by them. I also forfeited the many years of funds that I had "contributed". [They use this term (Contributions) so you know it's voluntary.

I do no business other than that which is private.

And even though I have this documentation I don't trust the government. I loathe the U.S. government, and have done just fine without them for almost 20 years now. I did it for Biblical reasons, not the money. And even though I'm not a holy roller, there isn't anything more prohibited by scripture in my opinion than worshipping the State through its MARK.

Many people find it too difficult to cut the umbilical cord and for good reasons too. I just got to the point where I couldn't take anymore of their fraud, and made every attempt to state my position openly.

I think I have been protected by the true authority of this universe because I have operated in good faith for the right reasons. If it's just about the money ... you'll have a hard time sticking with it.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-04   20:33:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: noone222 (#22)

Good rant, noone. How did you get the 521 form?

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-12-04   23:40:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Neil McIver (#40)

How did you get the 521 form?

I printed it out off of the internet and filled it out. (I had already filed voluminous Notices etc., years before, but I wanted to be certain that I was out).

The form I filled out asked for my reasons to terminate SS. My reasons were (1) Deceptive Trade Practices, (2). Commercial Fraud, and (3). Mark of the Beast.

I submitted it to SS to be filed in my record ... but I didn't have a record anymore.

I did the Phil Marsh program and then some. Marsh was later attacked and they confiscated all of his computers etc., and I got a call from the U.S. Atty asking me to snitch Marsh off. The U.S. Atty told me how bad I'd been fucked by Marsh and that he'd get me some of my money back if I'd turn State's witness against Marsh.

I told that scumbag that even if Marsh was wrong, he was right as far as I was concerned, and it sounded to me like he was fishing. I hung up and never heard from him again.

Marsh ended up being convicted on one of 47 counts against him ... mail fraud. Nothing to do with taxes.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-04   23:56:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: noone222 (#42)

I thought the 521 was for terminating SS "benefits", which might be (are?) referring to payouts, as in, if you want to stop getting SS checks, you filled it out and they stopped sending it to you.

It really calls for an OMB number check against the regs to see why the form was created.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-12-05   1:29:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Neil McIver (#51)

It really calls for an OMB number check against the regs to see why the form was created.

OMB NO. 0960-0015

My intent was to publish / give Notice of my refusal to participate in any way with the Feds at any level or with any legal fiction, damn the consequences.

Mine is not simply a matter of financial concern. I'm of the opinion that the number is the Mark of the Beast or its precursor. I determined that I could not participate in the system as it has been altered mid-stream to facilitate an evil agenda that would have prevented its passage in the initial stages, but has been slipped in over time. I won't support the murder of innocent people to facilitate elitists economic goals or to stay out of jail.

At some point in the not to distant future it won't matter what attempts have been made to be up front with Uncle Sambo because the goons will have no respect for any law. Some might say we are at that point already.

The real problem is that the weakness and apathetic ignorance of the masses is what forbids change.

noone222  posted on  2006-12-05   7:31:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: noone222 (#57)

At some point in the not to distant future it won't matter what attempts have been made to be up front with Uncle Sambo because the goons will have no respect for any law. Some might say we are at that point already.

i am of that opinion and not for lack of evidence. i've been witness to far too many courtroom atrocities to think otherwise.

christine  posted on  2006-12-05   14:42:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#74. To: christine (#72)

it's attorneys, not attornies. /spelling nazi

i am of that opinion and not for lack of evidence. i've been witness to far too many courtroom atrocities to think otherwise.

It's assholes ... not attorneys !!!

Me too, and I've witnessed a plethora of incompetent or indifferent lawyers, that become incompetent and indifferent Judges.

Aside from kicking the Law Professor's ass in court, I also won a Judgment of 100K by whipping a scum bag divorce lawyer that frequently acted as a Judge Pro- Tem in California. They're a collection of super-scum that manages to ooze its way through law school, buy a cheap suit and kiss Judicial ass for the next 20 years to earn a living by stealing it from others.

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