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Title: Will Christmas Be Crucified Again?
Source: rense.com
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general74/christmas.htm
Published: Dec 9, 2006
Author: Henry Makow Ph.D.
Post Date: 2006-12-10 22:18:40 by robin
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Comments: 24

"Did you enjoy the Holiday Concert?"* the school principal asked my friend.

"Yes, but why didn't you call it a Christmas Concert?'

"Oh I can't. The Superintendent said the concert must be inclusive of all the diverse cultures in the school. We are not allowed to mention Christmas, Christ, or Jesus."

My friend was bewildered. The school is 95% Christian. Yet all the carols with Christian references were performed as instrumentals. Instead they recited "In Flanders Fields," a poem commemorating the dead from World War One!

This humiliating scene was replayed millions of times this Christmas season. Some Christian groups even boycotted retailers who dropped the word Christmas from their advertising. Celebrating the central Christian holiday, and even saying "Merry Christmas" has become a political act.

Why has this happened? The answer isn't pretty. The world financial elite wants to eradicate Christianity. Their forerunners crucified Christ. Christianity gives everyone a piece of the pie and elitists want it all for themselves.

According to Christianity, all human beings were created in God's image, i.e. Divine Truth resides in every soul. Accordingly, human life is sacred and God loves everyone equally.

On the other hand, the New World Order wants to corrupt and debase humanity and snuff out any spark of Divinity. They want to allot us "human rights" (which they define and distribute) instead of acknowledging our God given rights. You see, animals are better to herd and cull.

"DIVERSITY"

In a truly pluralistic society, all major religions would be officially recognized. This is especially true of Christianity, the founding heritage practiced by 80% of Americans.

In our society however, some people are in George Orwell's words, "more equal than others." "Diversity" is a devious ploy to subjugate the Christian majority. Christians have to take a back seat to 1.5% of Jews for whom Chanukah is an insignificant holiday that doesn't even fall on December 25. (I won't mention "Kwanza" since most Blacks are Christian.)

To degrade humanity, the elite has to dynamite the four pillars of human identity: race, religion, nation and family. Just as it promotes homosexuality and fe-manism to undermine family, it uses a Jewish holiday to destroy Christianity.

The truth is that most Jews and other non-Christians would be happy to make Christmas an official national holiday. Some Jews and Muslims even started groups to promote the authentic celebration of Christmas. No one can object to the spirit of Divine Love and human brotherhood that Christ represents. It is the heart and soul of Christmas.

No one, that is, except the foreign-based central bankers and the occult (i.e. Masonic) political and cultural establishment that they employ.

Masons are behind the spurious division of religion and state. In his book /"Unholy Alliances"/ Dr. James Wardner points out that the Supreme Court had a Masonic majority during the 30-year period 1941-1971 when the court "erected a wall separating the religious from the secular. It was an epoch when prayer and Bible reading were erased from public education..." (P.72)

Paul Fisher (in /"Behind the Lodge Door")/ suggests, "Masons have succeeded in having their religion dominate American society." (P.244)

"Freemasonry historically has been a revolutionary worldwide movement organized to advance Cabbalistic Gnosticism; to undermine and ...destroy Christianity; to infuse Masonic philosophy into key government structures; and to subvert any government which does not comport with Masonic principles." (P.16)

The destruction of Christianity is a main goal of Communism, a spawn of the banking elite through its Masonic arm. Communist/Masonic governments persecuted and murdered Christians in Russia, China, Spain, Mexico, France etc.

THE WIDER ATTACK

The attack on Christmas is part of a wider war on Christianity in the USA.

Incredible as it sounds, a US Navy Chaplain is being fired because he insists on praying "in Jesus' name." He is conducting a hunger strike to persuade President Bush to rectify this situation. Seventy-three Congressmen wrote Oct 25 letter, that while 80% of soldiers are Christians, "it is increasingly difficult for Christian Chaplains to use the name of Jesus when praying." (*Washington Times,* Dec. 21, 205)

George W. Bush who claims to be a born-again Christian is in fact a member of the Satanic (Masonic) "Skull and Bones." He sent a "Happy Holiday" card from the White House. Nevertheless the House of Representative fought hard to have the Capitol Christmas Tree called that and passed a symbolic resolution upholding Christmas "symbols and traditions".

Meanwhile when Homeland Security Commissar Michael Chertoff lighted a Chanukah Menorah, nobody suggested that it should be called a "Holiday Candle."

Using guilt generated by the Jewish holocaust, the elitists are conditioning Christians to defer to Jews and meekly forfeit their beliefs and institutions. Naturally, this is causing anti-Semitism.

Happily, some Christians are standing up. There was uproar in a Long Island community when a Jewish town Supervisor interrupted a Catholic priest who evoked Christ when blessing a Christmas tree at a lighting ceremony.

"This is inappropriate," the Supervisor said. "I just want to make it clear that this is in no way a religious ceremony."

"I have to tell you that Manhasset is in an uproar," said Christine Roberts, who is Jewish herself. "It really was the wrong thing to say at the wrong time. There is a lot of hostility going around. Angry letters to the editor, angry conversations. Insanity has absolutely overtaken this town." The Supervisor later apologized.("Christmas Debate at Manhasset Tree Lighting," http://Newsday.com Dec.9, 2005)

In a wider context, a high school student in Pittsfield MA refused to wear a yellow Star of David; similar to the ones the Nazis forced Jews to wear. It was part of an exercise to "teach empathy."

Samantha Gage 13, said: "Many people won't learn anything except that their religion (if they're not Jewish) isn't good enough and that being Jewish or expressing Jewish symbols is a better religion and the only way to get the grades we deserve."

Not all Jews are part of this ruling caste but only those Jews (and non-Jews) who work for the central bankers through the web of corporations, foundations, media holdings, universities, government agencies etc. that constitutes the US Establishment.

The majority of Jews like myself want no part of the New World Order, which actually plans to stamp out all God believers: true Judaism (and Jews) along with Christianity and Christians.

But the bankers would love to deflect hostility against all Jews, not just the ones that work for them. This way opposition to their malevolent plan can be dismissed as hate and prejudice.

FINALLY

We keep hearing alarming reports that the United States is becoming a Christian theocracy. This is funny given the treatment Christmas is receiving. Martin Luther King merits a national holiday but not Christ.

Jay Leno made the point that it's OK to name Halloween. "So we have a holiday for Demons and Witches but not one for Christ?" (Very telling.) He heard the movie "Miracle on 34th Street" was being retitled "Coincidence on 34th Street."

Christians must boycott all events and stores that pass Christmas off as a generic holiday. They must organize counter events, which are authentic celebrations. (Chanukah falls on Dec. 16 this year, and on Dec. 5 in 2007.)

Christ said: "So every one who acknowledges me before men, I will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; but whoever denies me before men, I also will also deny before my Father who is in heaven." (Mathew 10:32-33)

Then he said:" Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

We can no more take religion out of national life than we can take light out of a room without being left in darkness. The new treatment of Christmas is more proof that we are being subjected to a stealth campaign of behavior modification. The only way to stop the downward spiral is for the US to accept Christianity as its official religion, as part of a religious revival that would involve putting the current criminal satanic leadership in jail and getting out of Iraq.

In Israel, Jews have no trouble mentioning Passover. Christians also need a national homeland where they can officially observe their beliefs. What better place than the United States?

Let's celebrate Christ's birthday with gusto this year!

Merry Christmas!

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First published December, 2005 See also "Erasing Christianity" by Jon Ryter http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon114.htm

Henry Makow Ph.D. is the author of "A Long Way to go for a Date." His articles exposing fe-manism and the New World Order can be found at his web site www.savethemales.ca He enjoys receiving comments, some of which he posts on his site using first names only. hmakow@gmail.com

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In Israel, Jews have no trouble mentioning Passover. Christians also need a national homeland where they can officially observe their beliefs. What better place than the United States?

What a stupid statement.

The USA was founded specifically to avoid being a religious homeland - Plenty of European nations that serve as Christian homelands - so much so they have the cross as their national symbol.

By the way, Christmas used to be illegal in some states in America pre Revolution and up until the early 1800s Christmas was not a holiday and congress would meet and conduct business on Christmas day if it was a weekday.

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In Israel, Jews have no trouble mentioning Passover. Christians also need a national homeland where they can officially observe their beliefs. What better place than the United States?

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What a stupid statement.

The USA was founded specifically to avoid being a religious homeland

That's what the grinches who would steal Christmas, and who have gone to great lengths to keep you from knowing the truth, would have you believe. The fact of the matter, is quite the opposite. The truth will set you free......

The USA [NOT America, but the USA] is a Judeo-Masonic corporation, which came promising liberty and equality in all things, including religon, so it could get its antiChristian foot in the door and squash liberty and religion of all but the Jews. Henry Makow gets it.

Take note of their $1 Bill, and the Star of David/Seal of Solomon over the eagle. Turn the eagle upside down, and its tail forms a menorah. Note the Judeo-Masonic pyramid and the all-seeing eye of Freemasonry in the CAPSTONE:

".....RE: NIV - JESUS IS SATAN...AGAIN...

Dear Sirs,

Praise Jesus for your faithfulness in putting together your website. I was reading your article on the NIV swapping places with Satan in Isaiah 14:12. I have been aware of this for a few years and was glad to see you cover it. But are you aware that the NIV does it again in the New Testement as well? In the KJV Jesus identifies himself as the cornerstone. However, the NIV changes it to CAPSTONE. The capstone is the top of the pyramid - not the cornerstone in which the foundation is layed. In the New Age movement, the capstone - the Mercaba, the top of the pyramid, is the source where they channel Nimrod, the all seeing eye - into their third eye. The capstone is the symbol of Nimrod in many cults and in FreeMasonry which is thier god... a false god - satan. The NIV again trades places with Jesus and satan - albeit ever so subtly....."

NIV calls Jesus "Satan" http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/nivsatan.htm

AMERICA was founded with a cross as well, and a charter that expressly stated that it would be used to spread the gospel. AMERICA was founded by Jesus Christ long before the USA was founded by the Judeo-Masonic Moneychangers. And AMERICA was founded as the New Jerusalem/Zion: Psalm 2:6.

The Avalon Project at Yale Law School

The First Charter of Virginia; April 10, 1606 (1)

"JAMES, by the Grace of God, King of England, Scotland, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, &c. WHEREAS our loving and well-disposed Subjects, Sir Thorn as Gales, and Sir George Somers, Knights, Richard Hackluit, Clerk, Prebendary of Westminster, and Edward-Maria Wingfield, Thomas Hanharm and Ralegh Gilbert, Esqrs. William Parker, and George Popham, Gentlemen, and divers others of our loving Subjects, have been humble Suitors unto us, that We would vouchsafe unto them our Licence, to make Habitation, Plantation, and to deduce a colony of sundry of our People into that part of America commonly called VIRGINIA, and other parts and Territories in America............

We, greatly commending, and graciously accepting of, their Desires for the Furtherance of so noble a Work, which may, by the Providence of Almighty God, hereafter tend to the Glory of his Divine Majesty, **** in propagating of Christian Religion to such People, as yet live in Darkness and miserable Ignorance of the true Knowledge and Worship of God, and may in time bring the Infidels and Savages, living in those parts, to human Civility, and to a settled and quiet Government: DO, by these our Letters Patents, graciously accept of, and agree to, their humble and well-intended Desires;..........

Provided always, and our Will and Pleasure is, and we do hereby declare to all Christian Kings, Princes, and States, that if any Person or Persons which shall hereafter be of any of the said several Colonies and Plantations, or any other, by his, their, or any of their Licence and Appointment, shall, at any Time or Times hereafter, rob or spoil, by Sea or Land, or do any Act of unjust and unlawful Hostility to any the Subjects of Us, our Heirs, or Successors, or any the Subjects of any King, Prince, Ruler, Governor, or State, being then in League or Amitie with Us, our Heirs, or Successors, and that upon such Injury, or upon just Complaint of such Prince, Ruler, Governor, or State, or their Subjects, We, our Heirs, or Successors, shall make open Proclamation, within any of the Ports of our Realm of England, commodious for that purpose, That the said Person or Persons, having committed any such robbery, or Spoil, shall, within the term to be limited by such Proclamations, make full Restitution or Satisfaction of all such Injuries done, so as the said Princes, or others so complaining, may hold themselves fully satisfied and contented; And, that if the said Person or Persons, having committed such Robery or Spoil, shall not make, or cause to be made Satisfaction accordingly, within such Time so to be limited, That then it shall be lawful to Us, our Heirs, and Successors, to put the said Person or Persons, having committed such Robbery or Spoil, and their Procurers, Abettors, and Comforters, out of our Allegiance and Protection; And that it shall be lawful and free, for all Princes, and others to pursue with hostility the said offenders, and every of them, and their and every of their Procurers, Aiders, abettors, and comforters, in that behalf.............."

http://www.yale.edu/law web/avalon/states/va01.htm

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AMERICA was founded with a cross and a dedication to spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ.....the USA wasn't founded until many year later. See them both here:

http://www.nps.gov /archive/colo/capeheny/capeheny.html

America is the New Jerusalem. See the link, but disregard Pastor Emry's contention that "Israel" is all-white.

THE OLD JERUSALEM IS NOT THE NEW JERUSALEM http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/index.htm

Act 13:23 Of this man's seed [see Galatians 3:16-29] hath God according to [his] promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Do the Jews consider Jesus their Saviour? No. Then, are the unbelieving Jews Israel? No. The church is Israel now:

http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan- charles_dd_01.html

......and America is her promised home:

Zec 2:4 And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited [as] towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec002.html#7

1Ch 17:9 Also **** I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; **** neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning,

Eze 34:11 ¶ For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, [even] I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

Eze 34:12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep [that are] scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

Eze 34:13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and **** will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.

Eze 34:14 I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and [in] a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.

Eze 34:15 I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.

Eze 34:16 I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up [that which was] broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.............

Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

http://www.blueletter bible.org/tsk_b/Mat/15/24.html

Luk 19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.

http://www.blueletter bible.org/tsk_b/Eze/34/11.html

Who are the Lost Sheep? And who are they not? See John 10:

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn010.html

God's immigration policy, and the religion ordained for America....

Jhn 10:1 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber...........

Jhn 10:7 ¶ Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

Jhn 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.

Jhn 10:9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

Jhn 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.....

http://www.bluelet terbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn010.html#top

those very same "thieves and robbers" are the grinches who would steal Christmas, but more importantly, they would steal CHRIST from Christians, and the land He has given us to inherit:

http://www.cephas- library.com/nwo/nwo_noachide_judge_and_courts_will_replace_ours.html

see also the famous Merry Christmas AND OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! http://www.public- action.com/christmas.html

Yet what does the Bible say:

Psalm 2

Psa 2:1 ¶ Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

Psa 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],

Psa 2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

Psa 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Psa 2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Psa 2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psa 2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.

Psa 2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Psa 2:10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Psa 2:11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Psa 2:12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust in him.

http://www.bluelet terbible.org/kjv/Psa/Psa002.html#top

You might want to see this as an example:

2Ch 20:11 Behold, [I say, how] they reward us, to come to cast us out of thy possession, which thou hast given us to inherit.

2Ch 20:12 O our God, wilt thou not judge them? for we have no might against this great company that cometh against us; neither know we what to do: but our eyes [are] upon thee.

2Ch 20:13 And all Judah stood before the LORD, with their little ones, their wives, and their children.

2Ch 20:14 ¶ Then upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of Asaph, came the Spirit of the LORD in the midst of the congregation;

2Ch 20:15 And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the LORD unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle [is] not yours, but God's.

2Ch 20:16 To morrow go ye down against them: behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel.

2Ch 20:17 Ye shall not [need] to fight in this [battle]: set yourselves, stand ye [still], and see the salvation of the LORD with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the LORD [will be] with you.

2Ch 20:18 And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with [his] face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD.

2Ch 20:19 And the Levites, of the children of the Kohathites, and of the children of the Korhites, stood up to praise the LORD God of Israel with a loud voice on high.

2Ch 20:20 ¶ And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the LORD your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.

2Ch 20:21 And when he had consulted with the people, he appointed singers unto the LORD, and that should praise the beauty of holiness, as they went out before the army, and to say, Praise the LORD; for his mercy [endureth] for ever.

2Ch 20:22 ¶ And when they began to sing and to praise, the LORD set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten.......

2Ch 20:27 Then they returned, every man of Judah and Jerusalem, and Jehoshaphat in the forefront of them, to go again to Jerusalem with joy; for the LORD had made them to rejoice over their enemies.

2Ch 20:28 And they came to Jerusalem with psalteries and harps and trumpets unto the house of the LORD.

2Ch 20:29 And the fear of God was on all the kingdoms of [those] countries, when they had heard that the LORD fought against the enemies of Israel......

2Ch 20:30 So the realm of Jehoshaphat was quiet: for his God gave him rest round about...........

http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/2Ch/2Ch020.html#11

Jesus is our "man of rest":

1Ch 22:9 Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon, and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel in his days.

1Ch 22:10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I [will be] his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever......

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/1Ch/22/9.html

**** see SOLOMON, it means "PEACEABLE", as in PRINCE OF PEACE.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this......

http://www.blueletterbi ble.org/tsk_b/Isa/9/6.html

God was already looking down the road to JESUS, not Solomon, who had 1,000 wives who turned him away from following the LORD. This trips people up, and is why they think they must rebuild Solomon's temple, WHICH HAD A CORNERSTONE OF STICKS AND STONES [I Kings 5:17-18], but the temple is the church: "Know ye not that YE are the temple of God?", and the temple is another name for "the house of the LORD". [see Micah 4]

And let's talk about the word "Peace"

(Strong's 07965) Hebrew for 07965

Root Word from 07999

Pronunciation Guide

shalowm {shaw-lome'} or shalom {shaw-lome'}

It is the root word for Jeru-SALEM

for Y@ruwshalaim (Strong's 03389) Hebrew for 03389

Pronunciation Guide

Y@ruwshalaim {yer-oo-shaw-lah'-im}

rarely Y@ruwshalayim {yer-oo- shaw-lah'-yim}

TWOT Reference Root Word

Not Available a dual (in allusion to its two main hills [the true pointing, at least of the former reading, seems to be that of 03390]), probably from (the passive participle of) 03384 and 07999

Outline of Biblical Usage

Jerusalem = "teaching of peace"

The PRINCE OF PEACE is King over JERUSALEM; not OLD Jerusalem, which has rejected Him, saying things like He is boiling in hot semen and excrement in hell, and which He in turn rejected, but the NEW Jerusalem, which He planted in America.

Need more evidence? I could go on and on.......it's all there, even "the hidden things of darkness" are being revealed. You just need to connect the dots. It's a marvel to me that more people don't see it, even with me yammering on about it again and again.

I will SING AND PRAISE Him this Christmas, and every day, until He removes the Pharisees in our midst, one way or another.

Matthew 15:13 Anything not planted by my Father will be plucked up by the roots.

And by the way, I am seeing and hearing "Christmas" a lot more this year.....our side is winning, methinks. Yes, Christmas has its pagan aspects, but take away all the pagan trappings, and Christians would still be worshipping Christ, and even the not-too-bright can understand something ain't right in America, because most still remember when schools taught that Christians came to America TO ESCAPE PERSECUTION, and now to have it start all over again??? This will cause a lot of light bulbs to finally turn on, I think. Sorry to be so long-winded.

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The USA [NOT America, but the USA] is a Judeo-Masonic corporation, which came promising liberty and equality in all things, including religon, so it could get its antiChristian foot in the door and squash liberty and religion of all but the Jews. Henry Makow gets it.

You must hate the Founding Fathers then.

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