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Title: Rush Limbaugh Crosses the Line
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Lew Rockwell
URL Source: http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig7/perdue1.html
Published: Dec 11, 2006
Author: Roy Perdue
Post Date: 2006-12-11 04:21:09 by Zoroaster
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Views: 361
Comments: 12
Rush Limbaugh Crosses the Line by Roy Perdue by Roy Perdue DIGG THIS Though it has been several years since I degraded my intelligence so far as to listen to the Rush Limbaugh show, it was brought to my attention (by a friend from Alabama) last night that Limbaugh has finally crossed the line. Apparently Rush was on another of his many rants about how great Abraham Lincoln was, and how wrong the South was in the conflict commonly called the American Civil War. I listened to Limbaugh a great deal in the late 1990s and up until about 2002. I finally became fed up with his bobble-head attitude that every thing that Bush and the GOP do is holy. Limbaugh has on numerous occasions claimed that those that expose the corruption in the GOP are liberals and working for the Democrats. As John Stossel would say, "Give me a break!" Limbaugh has also stated many times that he would like to see America be taken over by a "conservative" dictatorship, even going so far as to say that he could straighten out the country within two years if he were named the dictator! Not likely El Rushbo. While the world’s most lovable moron was spouting his claims that Lincoln was the greatest leader of mankind, one patriot from Louisiana had had enough, and called Limbaugh on his idiocy. The transcript is available online at http://RushLimbaugh.com. Limbaugh has kept up his long-standing habit of labeling anyone who disagrees with him as being a "Kook." He places a wide swath of people in this category including, but not limited to: socialists, communists, liberal Democrats, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, people who believe the Southern version of history and Fundamental Christians (the biggest "kooks" of all). The transcript to this conversation was placed in the "From Across The Fruited Plain" category of Limbaugh’s website, and is entitled "Confederate Kook Still Smarts Under Civil War ‘Occupation’." How noble of the lovable little hairball, I mean fur ball! Name-calling is never too low for the great man behind the golden microphone. The patriot from Louisiana immediately called into question Limbaugh’s blatant disregard for the Constitution by praising Lincoln’s tactics in the so-called Civil War. Limbaugh was quick to point out that the Constitution was not, and probably is not, important, that the preservation of the union was. I find that interesting. A man, who claims to love freedom and independence, would rather have a despotic empire as long as the "union" is still intact. When Limbaugh was asked again about the Constitution, he conveniently avoided the question, and like a politician, replied with his own question, not on the same topic of course. Later in the call Rush began to sing Lincoln’s praises once more. Limbaugh even said that Lincoln did some things that he wished Bush would do. Like suspending the writ of habeas corpus, running people out of the country that are opposed to Bush’s policies and wars, and arresting those civilians. Sounds more like El Rushbo is a Nazi to me. Lincoln arrested people in the middle of the night, held them in prison without charge or cause, and never brought them to trial – all so that he could get his way of "preserving the Union." Anyone who thinks that Lincoln was a great president, and the hero of America needs to read Thomas DiLorenzo’s book, The Real Lincoln, and find out the truth about the "Great Emancipator." Lincoln’s Gestapo tactics were reminiscent of King George III, whose tyranny Americans had desperately sought to avoid. Rush Limbaugh has finally crossed the line that should be visible to all Americans, especially Southerners. He is no friend of freedom, liberty, the Constitution or the Bill of Rights! He is fan of tyrants, and a lover of despotism, and should be treated as such. Fellow patriots: whether the intentions are good or not, a dictatorship is still wrong, and always brings tyranny. Below is the transcript: "Confederate Kook Still Smarts Under Civil War Occupation," 12/04/06, http://rushlimbaugh.com. December 4, 2006 BEGIN TRANSCRIPT RUSH: John in Shreveport, Louisiana. Hello. CALLER: Mr. Rush, don't you think you're being a hypocrite when you're not – when you don't want the Iraqis to decide the problems themselves, especially since Abraham Lincoln took two – two generals named Lincoln [sic –Grant] and Sherman who were responsible for the deaths of 59,000 southern people? And since you hate Confederate heritage that much, don't you think that we should allow the people of Iraq to decide their own fate? RUSH: (Laughing.) Gee. I hate Confederate heritage? CALLER: No kidding. RUSH: On the basis of what do you say that? CALLER: Okay, allow me to quote you from 2001: "The American Civil War was the first conflict in human history to set a people free from the bondage of slavery." Your quote, sir. RUSH: Yeah? CALLER: And that's not – RUSH: Well, the point is, we fought – CALLER: – power – RUSH: Are we going to have this argument, Steve? CALLER: Yes, sir, we are, if you've got the nerve to hold it! RUSH: I'll have this argument with you any time you want. I've been hearing from you guys since I started this show. I know, it's about states' rights, it was about freedom; it was about independence. But it was about preserving the union – and Abraham Lincoln knew that you couldn't preserve an America with the institutions defined by our Constitution if one man was allowed to own another. CALLER: Well, you could not preserve the Constitution as long as you could override it by military power and invasion. RUSH: Well, there was the preservation of the union that was the number one – CALLER: How about the preservation of the Constitution, shouldn't that be predominant? RUSH: Look, you still want to secede? What's your solution? CALLER: We have no choice, we're under occupation now. The thing about it is you still have to lie about Abraham Lincoln to prove your, to make your point. RUSH: I'm not lying about Abraham Lincoln. What do you mean, you're still under occupation? CALLER: Put it this way. The South was not allowed to vote its own way; we're not going to allow Iraq to vote its own government, either. RUSH: But we did. CALLER: Do you think we're really abiding by that? What they voted for, we're trying to subvert it by military occupation. No difference than what they did here for 12 years in Louisiana. You don't think we don't see that? You don't think we don't see you as a hypocrite for what you say about, oh, yeah, preserve the union, but let's never mind, let's take away the vote from those who are the voting citizens – RUSH: I cannot believe this! CALLER: – Constitution! RUSH: I can't believe this. You are taking out your frustrations at having lost the Civil War on me and claiming I'm a hypocrite because of my stance on the Iraq war? CALLER: Yes, sir. RUSH: Which I don't even think you know what it is. CALLER: I don't think you know – I don't think you know who Abraham Lincoln was. RUSH: I certainly know who Abraham Lincoln was. He's one of the greatest presidents in the history of the country. CALLER: Who said that – RUSH: And it wasn't because he defeated the south. It was because he preserved the union. CALLER: He preserved the union by trampling the Constitution! RUSH: He did not trample the Constitution. He suspended habeas corpus. He did do some things I wish Bush would do. CALLER: Like kill 59,000 innocent civilians? RUSH: Are you talking about Sherman's march through Atlanta? CALLER: And – and – and Grant's shelling the city of Vicksburg. Hello? RUSH: It won the war, didn't it? You ever heard of Gettysburg? It won the war and that was the objective. I'll tell you what I wish Bush would do that Lincoln did. Take all these anti-war agitators and send 'em to Canada. Send the National Guard in there. Send Harry Reid over to Baghdad if he's going to be so socially – CALLER: Like that Ohio Congressman Vallandigham, huh? RUSH: Absolutely, like that Ohio congressman, that Democrat that was snatched out of his house and sent down to Jefferson Davis, who also didn't want him. CALLER: Well, at least I got you to acknowledge that. RUSH: Acknowledge what? CALLER: Well, the fact that Lincoln did have his secret police who went into people's houses, pulled them out in the middle of the night, and had them – and had them – RUSH: You know what? I hope before you die you learn to thank God for Abraham Lincoln. CALLER: I hope before you die you learn what a racist and a bigot and a power-hungry maniac he was. RUSH: I'm the racist and the bigot? CALLER: I didn't say you were. I said he was! RUSH: Oh. Abraham Lincoln? How in the world you can call a guy who ended slavery a racist and a bigot? I have heard everything now. Everything, in 22 years of hosting this program, I have heard everything. END TRANSCRIPT December 11, 2006 Ray Perdue [send him mail] is a history teacher at Carolina Baptist Academy in Reidsville, NC.
Poster Comment: Any historian worth his salt will say the debate over state rights, not slavery, was the major cause of the American Civil War. Pig-boy Limbaugh doesn't know much about history.
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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)
The current state of the "Union" demonstrates the futility of preserving despots at the expense of the fundamentals like liberty. Limbaugh has had to go so low as to praise Bush for "stealing the dems platform" ... in order to survive. Instead of advising conservative Republicans to "steal" the Lib platform, Rush should recommend they vote for dems ... it appears they have done this without much prodding from Rush. (Not that the agenda will change, it won't.)
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry
Limbaugh remains long on noise, and short on fact. He'll never change, because he has been been bought and paid for. The FReakers still run a daily thread discussing his show in real time. That's a fan club. Airheads all, but loyal nevertheless.
Pig ignorant. Or lying. By today's standards, practically every prominent American prior to Eisenhower was a white supremacist.
You can never tire of counting conflict diamonds.
Bingo. End of story.
the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.
RUSH: Oh. Abraham Lincoln? How in the world you can call a guy who ended slavery a racist and a bigot? I have heard everything now. My info is he was opposed to slavery on a personal note but his political stance on the issue was neutral. He's on the record stating he'd have preserved slavery to preserve the union. That should put to rest any notion that the war was over slavery. Lincoln wanted all blacks deported out of the country. He was what we'd call to day a white separatist.
I'm not going to defend Lincoln's violations of civil liberties, but, compared with Limbaugh's defense of the torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, his defense of Lincoln strikes me as, at worst, a minor offense.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
Limbaugh is an MIC mouthpiece whore and an advocate of dictatorship.
I have mixed feelings about Lincoln. I wouldn't go as far as caling him a monster as many hard-core Southerners do, but some historians believe the Civil War was unnecessary, that slavery was economically inefficent and eventually would have died out of its own accord. It's debatable who started the war, whether it was Lincoln or the South Caraliona hot heads. Lincoln, I believe, would have been more lenient toward the South than the Radical Republicans of Congress. Had he served his second term, the twelve years of Reconstruction in the South might have been avoided.
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Lincoln wanted all blacks deported out of the country. He was what we'd call to day a white separatist True, by today's politically correct standards, however, Lincoln's views on race were a little to the right of David Duke's. The Lincoln/Douglas Debates clearly show Lincoln not an advocate of racial equality but rather as a White supremacist. Lincoln encouraged black leaders of his day to return to Africa, i.e, Liberia, created in 1822 as a result of the activities of several US philanthropic societies as a homeland for former slaves. Needless to say, the idea never gained traction. It died with Lincoln's assassination
Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.
Ever read about the systematic torture of Confederate prisoners at Death-Camp Douglas in Chicago? Bush models his administration after Lincoln's. So, in a way, Rush's defense of Lincoln and Abu Ghraib are absolutely consistent. In both cases, he defends empire, mass-murder, torture and the false gospel of redeeming force. Lincoln blazed that blood-soaked trail. Bush is but his pale shadow by comparison.
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It's funny how historical revisionism works. In schools they're being taught that the Civil War was fought over slavery. That is one of the greatest untruths there are in our school system. Lincoln didn't effect the Emancipation Proclamation until 1863. Limbaugh like so many other revisionists would rather people be indoctrinated into a system of intellectual mediocrity, than have them know the truth about anything. If you tell a lie enough times in public, people will believe it to be the truth and no amount of proof will change people's minds. Just like the holocaust. People want an open debate about how it happened, and if the numbers are correct, and yet, no amount of truth will ever change people's minds about how it happened, and how many died. Even if the number were 100 people, as opposed to the alleged 6 million, it would still be abhorrent. To me, the numbers are of no consequence, as to murder anyone for any reason is wrong.
#2. To: Zoroaster (#0)
#3. To: Zoroaster (#0)
RUSH: Oh. Abraham Lincoln? How in the world you can call a guy who ended slavery a racist and a bigot? I have heard everything now.
#4. To: Jethro Tull (#2)
Limbaugh remains long on noise, and short on fact. He'll never change, because he has been been bought and paid for.
#5. To: Zoroaster (#0)
#6. To: Zoroaster (#0)
Way too much oxy.
-Thomas Paine
#7. To: Zoroaster (#0)
#8. To: aristeides (#7)
#9. To: aristeides (#7)
I'm not going to defend Lincoln's violations of civil liberties, but, compared with Limbaugh's defense of the torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, his defense of Lincoln strikes me as, at worst, a minor offense.
#10. To: Neil McIver (#5)
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My info is he was opposed to slavery on a personal note but his political stance on the issue was neutral. He's on the record stating he'd have preserved slavery to preserve the union. That should put to rest any notion that the war was over slavery.
#11. To: aristeides (#7)
(Edited)
I'm not going to defend Lincoln's violations of civil liberties, but, compared with Limbaugh's defense of the torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, his defense of Lincoln strikes me as, at worst, a minor offense.
#12. To: Zoroaster (#0)
 | This country's priorities are all fucked up. |
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