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Title: This is Christmas... uh, excuse me; This is XMAS!
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Published: Dec 11, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-12-11 10:49:00 by richard9151
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Semiramis declared that her son, Tammuz, was in actuality the return or rebirth of her husband, Nimrod. this is where reincarnation was born. And since Tammuz was born on the day corresponding to December 25, this day was highly honored and recognized by Nimrod's supporters. Note, therefore, that this date (December 25) was observed in honor of the birth of Tammuz long before Christianity existed, and that it was not until many centuries later this pagan custom was "Christianized" as being the birthday of Christ (or Christmas day). "It can be stated they worship another Jesus" Nimrod's followers began to also worship Semiramis. And her son Tammuz was worshipped as well. Semiramis was revered by the people and was viewed by many as a priestess and goddess. She soon became known as "the queen of heaven." Thus began the awful practice of exalting human deities. These false beliefs have led up to the many different forms of idolatry that are still practiced by different people today. Yes, it was through the introduction of these satanic evils and the many sacrilegious practices of ancient Babylon that witchcraft, priestcraft, spiritualism, and other forms of paganism were born. On the 25th of December, is "The birthday of the unconquerable Sun" (Natalis Solis Invicti). The ancient pagans believed that the sun would die during the winter solstice and then rise again from death as the solstice ended and the days of light began to lengthen, with the sun climbing higher in the sky, regaining its dominance. December 25 was also regarded as the birth date of the Persian/Iranian mystery god Mithras, the Sun of Righteousness, the god of light, the Grand Deliverer. The Sun God Mithras was a popular deity in the Old Roman Empire, whose cult penetrated the Roman world in the first century B.C. Oh, yes, and note this; "The birthday of the unconquerable Sun" ... And this was also the excuse to change the day of Rest detailed in the Bible, Saturday, to Sun-day. And by all means, when you go to worship the son of god on Sun-day, be sure to go for a Sun-rise service! Yeah! Go Tammuz! For further information, see the book, Two Babylons, free on the net, and the Post, SIMON MAGUS.
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#6. To: richard9151 (#0)
Excellent post! Here is a post I had just made, with a link that may interest you as well. I really did enjoy your link, which provides many good points, though there is one statement in there I would like to dispute. The word "Christianity" is not in itself, any where to be found in the Bible, but the word "Christian" is, though it seems to indicate a negative connotation. This word was used to describe followers of Jesus, and was never used by one of the to describe themselves. http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=41282&Disp=48#C48
that's because it is.
Christos is Greek word that translates into English as anointed. No special 'pagan' meaning involved. The Persian king Cyrus was also called 'Christ' in (Isaiah 44:24, 26–45:3, 13).
Well, for starters, if you had clicked on the LINK that was provided, you would have found much useful information on the word christian. Also, if you read the link word for word, SLOWLY - you will find that yes, it is a GREEK word that has a formerly Pagan USAGE hammerdown, it seems that our friend Destro has trouble with the word Pagan, in our other thread he informed us that it simply meant "village folk". I guess it offends him or something to think that Pagans may happen to be "unchristian" sort of folk instead of simple village folk!!
Your link is garbage. There is no special pagan meaning to the word (and I find using the term pagan to be ignorant in this context). I know Greek is hard but it's not that hard. Xristos means anointed - that is all. To anoint is to grease with perfumed oil, animal fat, or melted butter, a process employed ritually by many religions and races.
The link is posted in comment #10, by hammerdown, but here it is again: http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com/christian.html and it is an excellent site referring to Pagan USAGE of the term christian, long before "christ" was born!!
That is from that website. That is proof it is garbage. Greek is probably the most scholarly and exact language humanity has ever developed - there is a reason scientists and doctors still prefer to use it to describe things. Hebrew itself may not even be a true language but a patois language which adapted by borrowing words from other tongues as the Hebrew tribes went from place to place and was not even spoken by its own people who may have prayed in that tongue but preferred to use any language but that to communicate with.
PLEASE tell me that this is not your only reasoning for Greek being the most "exact" language!!! Did you know that prescription drugs kill more people every year than do illegal drugs??? So why are they on the market? They make MONEY. Scientists are willing to plagiarize when they need to get the desired final outcome. GRANT MONEY!!! There is no way that a language as old as Greek can be uncorrupted and unpolluted after all this time. After all - have we not been discussing all evening how things get twisted with time?? Of course we have been discussing religion not languages, but the basis is still the same. Anything handed down for centuries will not remain in its original form.
There is no such concept in linguistics as a corrupted or polluted language. The fact that you hold such a possibility shows me you are an not serious person - a faker on the scholarship aspect of this discussion. The above website is a religious fundamentalist website which has a religious agenda at the expense of truth. Thus it is garbage and any info that comes from it is garbage. GIGO rules apply. There is a reason the Latins learned Greek as soon as they could talk.
The fact that you cannot consider the fact that anything THAT old may have changed over time (and that those changes MAY be described as pollution or corruption), and accuse anyone who thinks that this is a possibility as "bot serious" informs me that you are closed minded. As does the fact that you cannot open your mind enough to think that a pagan tradition cited in the Bible MAY have evolved into a christmas tree. I am not here to change anyones mind. I simply thought that the reason that the forum is popular is because at times people like to consider each others Ideas. I can see that this is not the case with you and therefore I have no further wish to continue this conversation.
What is pollution and corruption when it comes to language? That is the language of religious fanatics - especially from Hebrew-izers who always hated the intellectual Greeks.
#31. To: Destro (#29)
I don't know much Hebrew, and I don't know much Greek..... But I do know that "intellectual" (and the intellects who use them) Greek words are used because we are too fucking stupid to see what's so plainly in our face. Are we not told in Scripture NOT to participate in witchcraft?????? (At least the KJV does, I can't say for the HCSB) AND what is the Greek word for witchcraft?????? Is it not PHARMAKIA???????? You're right. Maybe we'd be better off if we all learned Greek.... BTW, don't be late for your doctor's appointment responding to shit on the 4um :)
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#8. To: hammerdown (#6)
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#10. To: ladybug (#8)
it seems to indicate a negative connotation.
CHRISTIAN ~ the word is Greek, and has a formerly Pagan usage:
#17. To: hammerdown, ladybug (#10)
CHRISTIAN ~ the word is Greek, and has a formerly Pagan usage:
#18. To: Destro, hammerdown (#17)
No special 'pagan' meaning involved.
CHRISTIAN ~ the word is Greek, and has a formerly Pagan usage:
#19. To: ladybug (#18)
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Well, for starters, if you had clicked on the LINK that was provided, you would have found much useful information on the word christian. Also, if you read the link word for word, SLOWLY - you will find that yes, it is a GREEK word that has a formerly Pagan USAGE
#20. To: Destro (#19)
Your link is garbage.
#24. To: ladybug, hammerdown (#20)
Greek is a corrupted, polluted language to begin with
#25. To: Destro (#24)
there is a reason scientists and doctors still prefer to use it to describe things.
#26. To: ladybug (#25)
There is no way that a language as old as Greek can be uncorrupted and unpolluted after all this time.
#27. To: Destro (#26)
The fact that you hold such a possibility shows me you are an not serious person - a faker on the scholarship aspect of this discussion.
#29. To: ladybug (#27)
The fact that you cannot consider the fact that anything THAT old may have changed over time (and that those changes MAY be described as pollution or corruption)
Replies to Comment # 29. That is the language of religious fanatics - especially from Hebrew-izers who always hated the intellectual Greeks.
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